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What are the arguments/proofs against it ?

>> No.10706577
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I'm hijacking this thread.

Can we have a conversation about banning all Flat Earth threads?
We're able to report Science VS Religion threads. I don't believe flat earth discussions belong on /sci/ and that should be reflected by the rules and the mods should enforce those rules.

Can we get a ruling from the mods please?

>> No.10706578

>>10706563
If the earth is a globe spinning at around 1000mph at the equator, how does a plane taking off at the equator land at the north pole spinning at 10mph?

>> No.10706579

>>10706563
>all other visible celestial bodies are round
>the sun appears to rotate around us even with the naked eye
>its apparent size never changes
>ditto with the moon
>the celestial shell exactly resembles a spherical shell rotating around a ball, even with the naked eye
>ships disappearing over horizon hull-first
>flat earth is incompatible with theory of gravity, which is supported by other means
>time zones
>seasons
>etc etc etc

>> No.10706590
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>>10706577
>Can we get a ruling from the mods please?
Meta threads belong on /qa/
>>>/qa/
Just report it as being off topic, trolling outside of /b/, extremely low quality, spamming.
No reason to validate retards with their own report option or by doing anything besides reporting and hiding all flat earth threads for the cancerous low quality b8 it is.

>> No.10706604

>>10706579
>all other visible celestial bodies are round
Might as well observe clouds and claim that the earth is same shape as them.
>the sun appears to rotate around us even with the naked eye
Meaningless. It also appears to move around a stationary earth.
>its apparent size never changes
Apparent size of what? It's a light, that's where it ends.
>ditto with the moon
It's a light in the sky, so what?
>the celestial shell exactly resembles a spherical shell rotating around a ball, even with the naked eye
Celestial shell of what?
>ships disappearing over horizon hull-first
And you have discounted the possibility of evaporating water creating an optical illusion?
>flat earth is incompatible with theory of gravity, which is supported by other means
The theory of gravity is illogical, it doesn't need "flat earth" for that however
>time zones
>seasons
>etc etc etc
We don't know what the lights in the sky are. I'm not a "flat earther", I do not know what the earth is, but I reject the globe model too.

>> No.10706615

>>10706590
What are you so afraid of pussy?

>> No.10706647

>>10706578
Oh sh*t, so how then are we able to land in poles

>> No.10706651

>>10706647
The earth ain't moving.

>> No.10706655

>>10706578
>How can you be on a carousel spinning at 10 mph that is then turned off and slows to 0 mph? It's impossible.

>> No.10706663
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>>10706655
>the earth is turned off

>> No.10706665

So this is the power of /sci/ ...

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>>10706663
>I don't know how an analogy works

>> No.10706677

ha you simpletons

we can prove the earth is flat using the FUNDAMENTAL THEOREM OF ENGINEERING

if it is close enough it is good enough.

so if we take y=sqrt(1-x^2) to represent our earth we see for small values of x this is basically equivalent to y=1 a straight line with no curvature.

therefore a semi circle is basically equal to a line

check mate retards.

>> No.10706683

>>10706663
Wow you're dumb. Let me make this even simpler for you. Do you think it's impossible for someone to walk from the outside of a carousel to the inside when it's moving?

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>>10706675
Does a plane taking off from the equator need to adjust anything in order to land at the north pole you lil' bitch?

>> No.10706689

>>10706683
Does a plane walk you imbecile?

>> No.10706691

>>10706685
Yes, it needs to adjust its speed, angle, pitch, altitude, landing gear position, etc. at several points, just like any other flight. Fucking moron.

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>>10706691
Prove it lil' bitch.

>> No.10706696

>>10706689
Distinction without a difference. Jesus fucking Christ you still don't understand what an analogy is.

>> No.10706700

>>10706695
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCZew1QTsjQ

>> No.10706707

>>10706696
You think the earth's atmosphere is magically stuck upon its spinning surface. I'm not going to listen to anything you have to say. You're a child.

>> No.10706710

>>10706685
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bJ_seXo-Enc

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>>10706700
AHAHAHAHHAHHA, I see a stationary earth.

>> No.10706715

>>10706707
>You think the earth's atmosphere is magically stuck upon its spinning surface.
It's called friction you illiterate mongoloid.

>> No.10706718

>>10706604
So what model do you subscribe to?

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>>10706710
Nice plane.

>> No.10706721

>>10706713
I bet you also think cars are stationary when you're on the highway.

>> No.10706722

>>10706715
Friction!!? You are certifiably nuts!

>> No.10706725

>>10706722
>t. doesnt know that friction also applies to fluids

>> No.10706726

>>10706720
It’s a propelled object in air
Ball=plane
For analogy

>> No.10706727

>>10706722
Aaaaand this is the point where you run out of argument, thanks for admitting defeat.

>> No.10706728

>>10706718
I don't subscribe to any model. I want commercial space travel first. That's not going to happen.

>> No.10706730

>>10706721
The surface they are driving upon is stationary, whereas you think it's moving because you're a schizo.

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do not bump flat earth threads
do not respond to flat earthers
tip: you are being baited
tip: you look like a retard when you argue with "flat earthers"

>> No.10706734

>>10706725
Friction of what you nutcase? The earth and the atmosphere are spinning at the same rate aren't they? What friction?

>> No.10706735

>>10706726
Now show a plane flying over the earth making adjustments to land at the north pole.

>> No.10706739

>>10706727
Where's the friction you schizo?

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>>10706731
This is what you call a pussy who can't handle their religion being challenged.

>> No.10706755

>>10706577
I agree, but if we took this route, /sci/ might be left without any topics to discuss.

All sorts of reality deniers congregate to sci to have their views validated, not just flatters.

>> No.10706757

>>10706730
>The surface they are driving upon is stationary
Wrong, you see the surface moving when you look down. It's moving backwards under your wheels. So you either have to admit that what you see has no bearing on what is stationary and what isn't because you can see either one depending on your relative speed, or you have to claim that whatever you see is real and the Earth is moving under your car.

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>>10706734
>Friction of what you nutcase? The carousel and your feet are spinning at the same rate aren't they? What friction?

>> No.10706772

>>10706757
What is stationary in your schizophrenic universe?

>> No.10706776

>>10706772
Literally nothing.

>> No.10706777
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>>10706761
So a feet and a carousel is the same as the air and the earth? Take your meds schizo.

>> No.10706780

OP here, sorry for the inconvenience. I'm a fellow fa/tg/uy and wanted well constructed arguments against flat earth settings.

>> No.10706781

>>10706776
And that's why you're schizo.

>> No.10706786

>>10706781
>Muh Firmament.
Tooth fairy tier beliefs can gtfo.

>> No.10706793

>>10706786
Not my belief kid. I don't know what the "earth" is, but you claim it's a moving spheroid because you're a schizo.

>> No.10706794

>>10706577

>> No.10706796

>>10706563
>What are the arguments/proofs against it ?
there is those humans and satellites currently orbiting around it. i dont know about you but thats some pretty strong proofs right there.

>> No.10706799

>>10706793
>I don't know
That's all you had to say.

>> No.10706803

>>10706793
It's a sphere because any shape will tend to minimize their surface energy. The minimum surface energy to volume ratio is a sphere.

https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surface_area_to_volume_ratio

This is in simple English. I hope you understand.

>> No.10706804

>>10706799
I don't know what the "earth" is because I'm a real scientist. You're a schizo who believes what your cult leaders tell you.

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>>10706793
Do you understand?

>> No.10706807

>>10706734
Objects can have friction force without relative velocity

>> No.10706809

>>10706803
>It's a sphere because any shape will tend to minimize their surface energy
According to your schizo beliefs. You don't even know what the "earth" is but you will force this schizo idea upon it anyway.

>> No.10706814

>>10706804
>I don't know what the "earth" is because I'm a real scientist.
How does that make any sense?

>> No.10706817

>>10706809
Everything in the universe in terms of energy goes from high potential to low potential. Do you agree/Not agree?

>> No.10706822

>>10706805
Do I understand your schizo graph? I understand it has nothing to do with reality.

The shape of the earth (if it has one) should not be up for debate in 2019. You globefags would have provided undeniable evidence by now. You haven't, and you can't. Game over.

>> No.10706824

>>10706807
What on earth are you babbling about?

>> No.10706825

You disappoint me /sci/. There is a list of things that falsify the Flat Earth notion (no, its not a theory).

>South Celestial pole don't real
>Sunsets and sunrises don't real
>Timezones don't real
>Ships sailing out disappearing bottom first don't real
> Eddystone Lighthouse don't real
>Australia don't real
>Eratosthenes don't real
>Hurricanes don't real
>Kelper Orbital Mechanics don't real
>Gravity don't real
>Earthquakes don't real
>Cosmic Microwave Background don't real
>Moon Landings don't real
>Maritime Navigation don't real
>Space don't real
>Alfred Russel Wallace don't real
>The Sun's near constant angular diameter don't real
>Gyroscopes don't real
>Euclidean geometery don't real
>Airlines don't real
>Perspective don't real
>Moon phases don't real
>Eclipses don't real
>Cartography don't real
>Galileo don't real
>Private space companies don't real
>Japan don't real
>Plate tectonics don't real
>Satellite TV don't real
>GPS don't real
>Soviet Union don't real
>Earth's magnetic field don't real
>Stellar parallax don't real
>Cassini don't real

These things exist. Therefore the Earth isn't flat.

>> No.10706827

pls heed >>10706731 get this shit off this board

>> No.10706830

>>10706824
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friction#Static_friction

>> No.10706831

>>10706814
Science is true scepticism - it's about not knowing rather than knowing like you schizos treat it as.

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>>10706720

>> No.10706833

>>10706604
>Has nothing to say about time zones or seasons
>Just puts an etc. after it to delegitimize them

>> No.10706835

>>10706817
>Everything in the universe in terms of energy
Can you explain something in the universe that isn't energy?
>goes from high potential to low potential. Do you agree/Not agree?
Why would I agree to such meaningless drivel?