/sci/ - Science & Math

>>10264788
https://www.theguardian.com/science/2019/jan/03/china-probe-change-4-land-far-side-moon-basin-crater

and the Chinese space program marches forward. They’re making pretty great progress, even if the payloads are always spectacular.
This lander nonetheless, is quite scalable. No doubt they’ll use similar architecture for a manned landing

>>10264792
artist impression of the rover.

Looking forward for more pictures.

What kind of black budget shit do we (USA) have going around in space? Intuition tells me we already have some form of base on Mars.

What kind of effects would the temperature have on this rover?

>>10264817
this is bait, right?

>>10264816
There is no strategic interest in space with the exception of local spy satellites.

>>10264823
not yet

>>10264788
The biggest thing here is that relay satellite on the other side of the moon to send the data back to earth.

That thing can be used for so many things, such as an observatory on the dark-side and more.

>>10264824
Not ever. we will always be a terrestrial species.

GAS THE ROCKETS, SPACE RACE NOW

>>10264788
The entire operation

https://twitter.com/globaltimesnews/status/1080696005710962689

>>10264788
Control Room

https://twitter.com/HenriKenhmann/status/1080696917137383427

>>10264816
We haven't launched anything big enough to make mars base. You can hide the payload, but not the rocket, and from the rocket being used you can calculate an upper limit on deltaV.

>>10264788

TICKING AWAY THE MOMENTS THAT MAKE UP A DULL DAY

>>10264817
didn't they coat some rovers with some type of isotope to keep it warm on some lunar mission?

>>10264822
seems like a reasonable question

>>10264827

Y tho? IDK if we'll ever successfully colonize a planet outside our solar system but I don't see why we won't successfully colonize at least Mars. Not to get too simplistic about it, but once you get a craft into space it's basically a big submarine, and the journey time to Mars is roughly analogous to that of the deployment time of a submarine.

Once you get to mars, you can live in underground tunnels so that there is no longer a significant risk of habitat depressurization from explosion, accident, or puncture. I'm not saying it will be glamorous, but I think it is certainly doable and even sustainable given a large enough initial commitment.

Shit, if you can engineer an effective and fast reproducing microbe that eats sulfuric acid and shits O2, you could probably colonize Venus in a few hundred years if you're aggressive enough about it.

>>10265070
He's the resident shit poster, don't reply to him.

>china lands on the moon
>everyone excited
>nasa announces CLPS for manned lunar landers
>not a peep from most people
???

>>10265148
>China does something that they have never done before, pretty much out of the blue
>vs
>NASA literally going backwards from humans, spending another 2.6b over 10 years which means that it's just going to be another probe, which is what what China just did

>>10265117
CLPS is literally yet another shitboring unmanned rover.

>>10265164
Meant for>>10265148

>>10265070
>if you can engineer an effective and fast reproducing microbe that eats sulfuric acid and shits O2, you could probably colonize Venus in a few hundred years

Look up the length of a day on Venus

>>10265069
>didn't they coat some rovers with some type of isotope
no
They put little blocks of radioisotopes next to components that can't get too cold to keep them warm. In fact nearly every space probe has these radio-thermal heaters, Curiosity has something like two dozen.

>>10264816
Trump doesnt seem to have any interest in space exploration, it probably makes his head hurt just to think about space.

>>10265174
He has as much interest as every other president, which is to funnel as much money into his aerospace donors as possible.

>>10264788
>dark side of the moon
it's the far side. and now and for the next about two weeks it's the sunlit side.

>>10265148
Because we know that any NASA planned manned lunar landing will be delayed for decades due to government changes.

>>10264788
Looking forward to whatever Chinese Hollywood has to offer

this universe wasn't made for space exploration

/r/irl_Monkeys

>>10264816
Space Warden. The US military has been in contact with extraterrestrials for the past 80 years, things like transistor, CD, and advanced materials originate from this partnership, shows like Star Trek and Stargate are partially true, their purpose is to prepare the population for full disclosure.

>>10265164
>>10265165
there are multiple CLPS, the manned lander is going to be officially announced on monday

>>10264920
All that is now
All that is gone
All that's to come
and everything under
the sun is in tune...
but the sun
is eclipsed by the moon.

DAILY REMINDER: If you control space you control the planet.

Best start practicing your mandarin and hope your commie overlords treat you with atleast half the respect they show to their own people.

>>10265407
Ummm what?

>>10264827
Nope. We already live in space.

TURN BACK
CHINESE PROPAGANDA AHEAD

>>10265407
I don't give a shit as long as we get UBI and China's government is a lot more likely to care for the people than shitty rich old white men

hmm I knew I've seen those linkages before...

>>10265424
>China's government is a lot more likely to care for the people than shitty rich old white men

ONONONONONONONONO...look at this dude...HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

A rat done bit my sister Nell.
(with China on the moon)
Her face and arms began to swell.
(and China the moon)
I can't pay no doctor bill.
(but China on the moon)
Ten years from now I'll be payin' still.
(while China on the moon)
The man jus' upped my rent las' night.
('cause China on the moon)
No hot water, no toilets, no lights.
(but China on the moon)
I wonder why he's uppi' me?
('cause China on the moon?)
I was already payin' 'im 300 a week.
(with China on the moon)
Taxes takin' my whole damn check,
Junkies makin' me a nervous wreck,
The price of food is goin' up,
An' as if all that shit wasn't enough
A rat done bit my sister Nell.
(with China on the moon)
Her face an' arm began to swell.
(but China on the moon)
Was all that money I made las' year
(for China on the moon?)
How come there ain't no money here?
(Hm! China on the moon)
Y'know I jus' 'bout had my fill
(of China on the moon)
I think I'll sen' these doctor bills,
Airmail special
(to China on the moon)

Look at the butthurt Americans upvoting NASA and downvoting China's moon landing.

>no aliens

>>10265644
that's because aliens speak english

Any of you guys thinking of moving to one of the Chinese moon bases we'll be seeing soon?

>>10265070
>colonize a planet outside

Gravity is a harsh mistress. Colonizing space makes more sense.

>>10265148

NASA is all talk these days.

>>10265424
>saying this about a country where there is a very real risk you might have your organs harvested while youre still alive

>>10265166
Cities on wheels that keep it perpetually in the transition zone.

>>10265759
big balloons that float around in the transition zone

>>10265763
Blimp trains

>>10265588
The chinese scorn anything accomplished by western chads all the same. Nothing wrong with bashing chinks

>>10265777
Wrong american all jealous China invent everything.

>>10265766
Go back to >>>/n/

>>10264788
WHO RAUGHING NOW, HUH? WHO THE FUCK RAUGHING AT US NOW, /sci/???

CHINA WILL RULE DA WORLD. STUPID FAT AMERICANS. YOU WATCH NEGRO ATHLETICS AND EAT FATTY FOODS WHILE CHINA CONQUER SPACE ITSELF AND RAIN DOWN NUKES ON YOUR FAT UGLY HEADS.

>>10265817
Oh yeah? try using Google dumbass

>>10265817
Hits too close to home

I unironically want China to dominate space. Americans are so utterly stupid and shortsighted and corrupt that waiting for you to lead humanity into the stars is hopeless.

It's so bad people are looking up to some irrelevant private company hated by almost everyone in the US to do it instead of the state lmao.

The only way for america to do anything in the short term is to be scared shitless by someone be that USSR or China even if they aren't doing anything hostile. Jealousy and hurt superiority complex is enough.

That's not how humanity can progress. That's how humanity will perish in a hollywood degradation nightmare of instant gratification and insanity.

So yeah. Go, China!

>>10265839
Pick your poison, loser. If america dominates space they'll waste trillions of dollars and put the first ever hotel on the moon. If china, they'll do it efficiently and then kill 1 million people through negligence and then pretend it didn't happen.

>>10265851
>If china, they'll do it efficiently and then kill 1 million people through negligence and then pretend it didn't happen.

I'm ok with this.

>>10265073
underrated

>>10265684
that's actually cool.

Wonder what the Chinese will grow on their stations/moon base. Western vegies, or their weird chinese stuff.

>>10265974

>3kg sealed biosphere containing seeds and insect eggs

https://www.inverse.com/article/52175-china-chang-e-4-far-side-moon-landing-worms

S P A C E S I L K

>>10266001
>According to the Chinese news agency Xinhua, the lives of these lunar pioneers will be streamed to Earth via a small camera and data transmission system in the cylinder.

That's pretty nice.

Next step would be bunnies

>>10265073
Based Touhou Poster

>>10264788
IT'S ALL STUDIO PHOTOGRAPHY

The human species went to the far side of the moon. And found nothing there. What a surprise.

>>10264788
The American Moon is alien grey, the Chinese Moon is brown like Earth.
The rover rolled down its ramp at 14:22 UTC to begin exploring Von Kármán crater.

>>10266048
Oh fuck, it begins.

Good luck to the silkworms.

>>10266048
i can see with my naked eye the moon is gray. what the fuck are you talking about

>>10264794
>100 years later china lands on moon

>>10266070
Russia was still first to space. We had to one-up them somehow. Everyone forgets that.

>>10266070
>>10266079
Ever notice the communists pick really strategic and practical space missions, while the US does a lot of "we wuz furst!!" and space golf crap? I mean Musk's big idea is "a greenhouse on Mars" which sounds like a fucking art installation.

>>10266079
didn't they send a human because they didn't have apes?

>>10264788
I have unironically gained a lot of respect for Chinese science over the past few years. Note: I said science, not "government" or "human rights" or "nice personalities".

While America is watching BLACKED porn and arguing over the 57 genders, China is stealing everyone's intelligence and intellectual property. Unknown ___bytes worth of American CIA and industrial documents are public on the internet. China has been reading these for decades.

It will be a VERY ugly wake up call when America is forced to address Chinese competence. High quality photos like this humiliate NASA where it hurts.

>>10266090
>Americans saying retarded things again
this is your mind on mcdonalds

>>10266092
>China has been reading these for decades.

Chang translates them to chinese
Cheng translates it to simplified chinese
Cheung terminates both and hands the documents to Chung
Chung gives them Ching
Ching asks for better translation

I always like those grid wheels.

>>10266079
reminder

>>10266116
I bet it is tainted with lead

>>10266048
Why photo quality so shitty?

>>10266121

>>10266121
>this event is relevant
>first woman in space
stop fooling yourself

>>10266121
Reminder why Communism is literally the embodiment of /sci/

>>10266123
Probably not the greatest designed camera + simple and hardened/ruggedised. At a guess they've modified a lot of off the shelf stuff.

>>10266150
probably a camera designed for earth

>>10266150
More like twitter sourced photos arent high res to begin with.

>>10266137
>melts from krokodil overdose

>EARTH AND MOON FROM LONGJIANG-2
>The Earth as seen from Longjiang-2, with Petropavlovskiy crater in the foreground.

>>10266174
forgot pic

>>10266121
quick counter reminder
it was the Germans who were the first in space
period

US and Soviet programs were entirely based on stolen German technology

>>10264788
Factitious and homosexual.

>>10266205
This, V2 was the first thing that crossed the 100km Karman line

>>10266121
Landing on the moon is the most complex thing on that list by far. So yes the US won the space race.

>>10266225
>t.

>>10266137

>>10266121
>cherrypicking arbitrary firsts to make Soviets look better

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_space_exploration#1960%E2%80%931969

>>10266121

>>10266121
poor sabaka :(

>>10266001

Silkroad in space WHEN?!

>>10266227
Christians are the cringiest species of Earth.

>>10266205
>>10266219
And without the American Robert Goddard and his pioneering rocket development, the German V-2 program wouldn't exist.

>Nevertheless, in 1963, von Braun, reflecting on the history of rocketry, said of Goddard: "His rockets ... may have been rather crude by present-day standards, but they blazed the trail and incorporated many features used in our most modern rockets and space vehicles".[73] He once recalled that "Goddard's experiments in liquid fuel saved us years of work, and enabled us to perfect the V-2 years before it would have been possible."[74] After World War II von Braun reviewed Goddard's patents and believed they contained enough technical information to build a large missile.[75]

>Three features developed by Goddard appeared in the V-2: (1) turbopumps were used to inject fuel into the combustion chamber; (2) gyroscopically controlled vanes in the nozzle stabilized the rocket until external vanes in the air could do so; and (3) excess alcohol was fed in around the combustion chamber walls, so that a blanket of evaporating gas protected the engine walls from the combustion heat.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_H._Goddard#V-2

Who cares about space? We already won 50 years ago.

>>10264816
USAs interest in space is in the form of spy satellites and protection of GPS satellites from being intruded by foreign intruders (The Chinese). Both of which can fuck up the power of the US's military and civilian life.

Hence why a Space Force is being established soon.

>>10266254
cope

>>10266264
>muh probes
reminder that Americans killed 4 times more astronauts than the soviets

>>10264885
You're dismissing the possibility that they have field propulsion or other chemical rocket substitutes.

No one who brings up the secret space program thinks they are using Saturn Vs.

>>10266286

What about deep space?

>>10264850
can't tell if based or cringe

>>10264788
That's just a photo of a fat dude's belly

>>10266225
They won the moon race *

Here’s the official personified image of Chang’e 4 by the Chinese government

>>10266391
Damn, how can america even compete?

Why dont we have official animu versions of our rovers and space-probes?

>>10266391
bilibili link?

>>10266391 >>10266397
NASA public relations press release:
tfw no space probe anime waifu gf

>>10266089
>venus probs that lasted long enough to take a picture

>>10266397
>Why dont we have official animu versions of our rovers and space-probes?
Because

>>10266432
what happens here?

>>10266458
Atmospheric heating, sadness.

>>10266458
Kimi no Na Wa.

>>10266458
Manly tears
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfYA4f-AIL0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKMmWUad1wY

>>10266432
Luckily Chang'e 2 wont meet this fate since it already became China's Voyager probe of some sort

>>10266432 >>10266458 >>10266486 >>10266463 >>10266467 >>10266474
>what happens here?

Top 10 saddest anime moments

>>10266432
Anyone got a link for the full set of these, and is there an english translation? I want to read these now.

>>10265073

Why is Chang'e so popular everywhere?

How can JUNKo even compare?

>>10266520
https://danbooru.donmai.us/pools/1849

>>10266550
Thank you kindly, anon.

>>10266526
Isn't she like the most popular chinese goddess?

>>10264817
There is no dark side of the moon. The temperature anywhere on the moon, when taken as an average over time, is extremely consistent. The side of the moon that we dont see isnt always in shadow. It experiences regular day/night cycles just like Earth.

>>10266391
>>10266407
God I love Asia so much.

>>10266713
Guan Yin is. Aka. Mom

>>10266048
That little dip is 180km wut

>>10266752
>Byakuren is actually Guan Yin

shit makes so much sense now.

The real space race was to see who could murder the first monkey in space.

>>10266391
Jesus christ that smug

>>10264823
>no strategic interest in space

Cue the mouth breathing brainlet. You won't be around if China start colonizing literally everything without any regard to human health or shit space treaties to prevent contamination. They'll be able to sit back and bombard any nation they want with complete impunity.

You absolutely do now want China ahead of you in space.

>>10265424
>China's government is a lot more likely to care for the people than shitty rich old white men

LOL Comedy Gold

>>10264788
>Dark Side of the Moon
Why does this sound so cool and interesting?
I'

>>10267036
Because, "other side of the moon," is the alternative phrase. Which is dull and boring.

>>10267034
It is true tho.

If you dont have any electional cycle where you can blame all the problems you caused on the next president/party in the revolving door system, all blame will be only put on yourself.

And when the only form of power transition is "beheaded, body skewered and sodomiozed with your entire family roasted alive", like so many times in their history when an once powerful emperor was toppled by angry peasants, you really really try to make people's lives better or at least act on their complains.

Democracies have no need for that. They can just hide behind "the will of the people" whenever they fuck up and let the deep state decide for the next guy to take charge.

>>10267044
It's actually the "far side" of the moon.

>>10267066
Both are correct, while "dark side" is incorrect.

>>10267077
if moon is mooning to earth than it would be the front side of the moon

>>10267045
>It is true tho.

Holy fucking ignorance. I bet you've never heard of Mao Zedong or even the fall out of the Xinjiang protests.

>>10267080
The side facing us is the face while the other side is the back of his head.

>>10267082
Yeah what about it?

If Chinese people have any reason to reject democracy, it is because Mao. It you thought that Mao was seen as a dictator, you are mistaken. He's seen as someone who made the people kill each other out of their own fanaticism. Mao is more like Trump, if he one day uses MAGA as a slogan to get altright death-squads hunt down their neighbors by blaming them as immigrants and "enemy of the american worker".

And what about the "Xinjiang protests" (whatever you mean)? In those riots of 2009, 200+ HAN Chinese died to Uyghur rioters, prompting the HAN people demanding and even helping their government to camp them all. That's not an example of "oppression" but more of ethnic cleansing by the majority vs the minority. Again, a very democratic thing to do if your majority demands such measures to "protect themselves".

>>10267098
>t. Chinese sympathizer

I hope you are on a watch list.

>>10267103
>sympathizer

more like sinologist who studies these guys.

they are literally the most unique of all political systems at the moment, because neither classic examples of democracy nor dictatorship fits them.

They are some sort of "democraship" or some shit, a weird mix of things from both worlds.

sung

>>10267114
No, sir. You are merely a /pol/ shitposter. This is not 4chan. You need to go back.

>>10267134
Someone like you would be the first to beat and kill others for their opinions in the Mao-era, even without being told to do so.

You are the reason why democracy dies in the west.

>>10267146
>t. strawman shitposter

Every time.

>>10265073 >>10266012
I want to explore Moon-chan 's Dark side deepest crater with my probe.

>>10264788
>Soft Landing
The landing will be rough though.

>>10264788
China has beaten the USA to the moon.

>>10265175
You do realize he has no donors right?

He's only interest in space is the Space Force, developing near- and low-Earth orbit military capabilities.

>>10267146
Democracy can only be saved through bloodshed.

>>10266550
This hurts my heart greatly.

When are we going to get live streams of the moon?

>>10267462
Just go outside and look up, it's right there.

>>10267146
An autocracy governed by a council or Emporer is not necessarily a bad thing. The US is one step away from being an oligarchy anyway, just let it happen bro

>>10267114
It's really more like a giant corporation, you have an illuminati like council and xi who make all the decisions. The laws are just whatever they decide that day.

>>10267474
I got that feeling as well. China Inc. is a thing for a reason.

Literally Xi's new years speech sounded like some CEO's speech directed at his workers and patting them on the back for good work and all.
Not something a president in the West would do.

>>10267497
All those people that voted for him should give themselves a pat on the back

>>10264788
Impressive.

With this most recent achievement, fate has in a single stroke, marked the decline of the west and spelled a new era of wondrous prosperity and peaceful global dominance for the Chinese dragon, which promises to firmly stand in sharp contrast to the historically bloody ascent of western powers and the cruel subjugation it brought to the humbler nations of the world. With the blessings of Chinese monocrystal turbines, plasma stealth technology, quantum direct-current electricity, quantum aircraft carriers and quantum enhanced railguns will be the instruments with which China affirms its noble stewardship of 21st century world politics and offers the non-western world a different option; an humanist alternative to the depredations of Western leadership and the opportunity for a more equitable and dignified multilateralism.

>>10267757
>achievement, fate has in a single stroke, marked the decline of the west and spelled a new era of wondrous prosperity and peaceful global dominance for the Chinese dragon, which promises to firmly stand in sharp contrast to the historically bloody ascent of western powers and the cruel subjugation it brought to the humbler nations of the world. With the blessings of Chinese monocrystal turbines, plasma stealth technology, quantum direct-current electricity, quantum aircraft carriers and quantum enhanced railguns will be the instruments with which China affirms its noble stewardship of 21st century world politics and offers the non-western world a different option; an


Chinas still a third world shithole LMAO

>>10264788
not dark
clearly a fake

>>10267757
Tiananmen Square Massacre

A future under China is a better future the future under America.

>>10267811
>Tiananmen Square Massacre
It was a good thing, if it wouldn’t be contained then China would collapse into destibilized warring factions and ended up like Russia

>>10264788

>no stars.

It's a fake staged set.

>>10267757
You cunts have had 4000 years to dominate. You are well behind my yellow friend

>>10267811
You're like a little baby, watch this
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>>10266121
>first woman in space is relevant
>Successfully keeping humans alive on a 250,000 mile trip to another celestial body and back safely is not relevant

>>10265424
absolutely delusional

>>10268233
anon, when was the last time humans were on another celestial body?
now, when was the last time they were in a continuous space habitat?
so which one is more relevant today?

>>10267757
Xi will be assassinated or made to step down in the next 5 years

>>10268304
Who gives a shit about manned space travel? Autonomous robots are the future.

>>10268233
>this past achievement is totally irrelevant unlike this other achievement
>>10268304
>the other achievement is actually the irrelevant one as nobody is doing anything like that for decades now
>>10268474
Well... forget about past achievements, just imagine future achievements that drive all the achievements you like to irrelevancy.

>>10267460

>>10268716
Poor Minerva, all that way just to float off, alone.

>>10264850
Cringe.
The future of Space is Sino-Russian. Other countries decided to waste the past 30 years sending minorities up to the ISS.
Unless NASA is scrapped entirely and replaced, there is no hope for US space ambitions.

>>10268481
>irrelevant one as nobody is doing anything like that for decades now
yes that's literally what irrelevant means

>>10268890
*SpaceX blocks Russia, China & even NASA path integral*

>>10268897
Americans will imprison or tame him long before he becomes a threat.

>>10268903
No we won't, why would we want to do that at all?

>>10268903
>Americans will imprison or tame Elon Musk long before he becomes a threat.

American *(((elites))) *could imprison or tame Elon Musk

>>10268890
Russians did literally nothing in over 20 years and Chinese are now doing what West did in the 60's.

>>10268917
he has the ability to escape earth now, Dragon 2 is fully operational

>>10268927
Good idea.

Video related:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zewyvQEqsS4

Mars ethnostate independence is coming!
Solar System Civil War now!

>>10268894
It was merely a summary.

>>10268917
>we control mars too
actually laughed

The rabbit wants to go into the pit to carry out radiation spectrometer readings for the germans.

Good idea? I'm not sure.

>>10268937
>elon musk
>hell on mars
they kind of sound similar

>>10266048
>dark side of the moon
>no stars in the sky
lmao
>me Chinese
>me play joke

>>10265684
Xiaomi moon bases when?

>>10269780
Its because the moon has no atmosphere to scatter the light

>>10267497
>Not something a president in the West would do.
they would love to, though.

>>10267466
city dwellers can barely see it

>>10268304
That's like saying world records set by Olympic athletes aren't relevant, because nobody can beat them yet.

The whole point of human spaceflight is to figure ways to reach other planets or moons and possibly colonize them, not to dick around with zero gravity frogs in low earth orbit until we go extinct.

>>10269715
How can tracks retaining their imprinted shape occur in regolith that has no moisture?

>>10267045
>And when the only form of power transition is "beheaded, body skewered and sodomiozed with your entire family roasted alive", like so many times in their history when an once powerful emperor was toppled by angry peasants, you really really try to make people's lives better or at least act on their complains.

Man you're a fucking piece of work. Absolute Monarchist jackoff never picked up a history book unless it was some 'dark enlightenment' nonsense.

>>10269936
lunar regolith is sharp, and the grains stick to each other better than the smooth sand on earth

>>10269954
What? Provide an example.

>>10267045
You can count successful peasant rebellions in world history with your fingers. You're a special kind of fucking idiot.

>>10269963
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1163/156856195X00932
I haven't read this yet

>>10269967
So footprints/tracks etc are being held together by electrostatic forces? Do you believe this?

>>10269943
Death is the best motivation known to science. Literally everything you do in life is to escape it for another day.

He is right.

>>10269965
literally every single chinese dynasty was based on peasant rebellions being successful and absolutely murderizing their previous rulers, ushering in one or two centuries of wealth and prosperity, after which the descendants of said rebels became tyrants themselves and were subsequently replaced by another rebellion.

>>10269986
in a vacuum? yes

>>10264788
>No stars
>Doctored images
Tis seems the funding one needs for space missions isn't actually for that purpose, but to build a facility and acquire necessary equipment to fool the masses. NASA have been staying away from the moon like the plague and instead someone over there had the bright idea of focusing on Mars despite Titan (moon) being more interesting.

>>10270002
Evidence?

>>10265148
>someone does something
Cool
>someone announces they're going to do something
K whatever

>omg why isnt anyone talking about it???

>>10264788
>Chang'e
We wuz Changz

>>10266316
yep.

<----- /x/, if you want to talk about that shit.

>>10268398
Yeah it seems like he's getting too big for his boots. Yes, he's filled a lot of positions with his own men but that doesn't mean he's invulnerable.

>>10269715
WHY IS NO ONE ASKING WHY THE MOON LOOKS SO FUCKING YELLOW IN THESE PICTURES?

THE MOON ISNT YELLOW CHINA STOP TRYING TO ACT LIKE IT.

>>10271058
Because the camera was made in China.

Reminder that India and one of the NASA CLPS commercial providers will launch their Moon missions within the next few weeks. There isn't a race to the Moon, but alot of missions are focused on it lately. I hope the trend continues and expands.

>>10269963
>>10269936
>>10269986
>>10270031
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTYCz4ft8yw

>>10269991 >>10267776 >>10267497 >>10267811 >>10267972 >>10267975 >>10270391 >>10271063
It's all so tiresome

>>10271058
>THE MOON ISNT YELLOW
Oh? Been there and know this?
But... possibly because these are raw "We made it to the Moon!" images, not color-balanced.

>>10269780
>>10269830
it's because the surface is bright as shit compared to the stars

>>10268890
reminder

>>10273669
Shouldn't they at least be able to see Earth and Venus just like we can see the Moon and Venus in broad daylight?

>>10273680
Earth is on the other side of the moon, and i'm going to guess Venus isn't in the tiny bit of sky there so no.

>>10273680
>Venus
You would be able to. The camera probably would be able to as well, if it pointed at the "sky" and exposed for the "sky".
But it is pointing at the surface of the moon and that surface is being lit by the Sun, which is extremely bright, so, no.

>>10269780
>dark side of the moon
Far side of the moon. The Sun is currently shining on it so it isn't dark at all.

>>10264823
The meek shall inherit the Earth.

The rest of us shall go to the stars.

>>10273924
>NEET anon thinks he will go anywhere other than his hometown
>>10273717
how about you stop being a pedantic faggot

>>10273715
Will they show the sky after sundown before they enter hibernation? Shielded from the Earth and the Sun and with no mentionable atmosphere It would be a spectacle never seen from human devices before.

>>10273935
Projecting much?
I travelled the world and now I am a partner in a small comfy firm.

>>10273935
>how about you stop being a pedantic faggot
One of those symptoms of true narcissism - the inability to handle corrective criticism.
My sympathies on your faggotry.

>>10266048
Articles on image manipulations suggest starting by tracing shadows. Something is a bit strange here.

>>10266092
>Chinese competence.
Why all this industrial espionage then?

>>10274578
Lies.

All own tech.

>>10274645
And its about 'Most Cited' papers now, not just number of papers.

Indicating quality of papers.

>>10274645
are murifats fucked? it seems like Chinese are growing exponentially in terms of tech and the is is heavily stagnating

Does China steal everything?

>>10274648
>>10274645
>>10274578
Keep in mind that China is now partnering with universities across the globe. So it is hard just to say one country is best at anything

>>10274698
Yeah, the moon mission itself was done with the cooperation of German, Netherlands and Swedish, as well as one African and Saudi university.

>>10274645 >>10274648 >>10274672 >>10274693 >>10274698
Sure they are partnering, and that is part of the problem. This link was posted on /cyb/ earlier:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/resources/idt-sh/Looking_for_Chinas_spies
>Xu is alleged to have worked with individuals at NUAA, a university linked to the Chinese Ministry of Industry and Information Technology. It is one of the top engineering universities in China and collaborates with Chinese aircraft manufacturers.

>The US says Xu’s case is emblematic of China’s plan - intelligence officials working hand-in-glove with Chinese companies to steal technical secrets from the West and then use them to advance their own economy.

>Much of the threat, Evanina says, comes from people who are not spies per se. “They use scientists, engineers, businessmen. They can come here, ingrain themselves in the organisation, be part of a culture, work on a significant project, classified or unclassified, and be in a position to obtain that data for nefarious reasons, and send it back.”

China successfully lands a probe on the warmest object in the known universe

>>10265407
already speak mandarin and know martial arts, they'll love me

>>10274739
The same rhetorics have been said about our beloved anime-wonderland Japan during the 1980s and 1990s. Doesnt make it more true now.

>tfw all these zoomers here dont remember when Japan caused just as much butthurt in the West as China is now
>tfw all these zoomers cant look past the present and identify smear campaigns and dehumanization propaganda

and this is called /sci/ - I dont want to see /pol/

>>10274759
Google archives gives me the exact same headlines about Japan we read nowadays about China.

>>10274759 >>10274763
And does that make it any better??

>>10267352
fec.gov

The committees all file financial reports from time to time as required by law. Looks like he has a couple of donors.

But that's OT for this board.

>>10274672
https://www.nbcnews.com/mach/science/nasa-s-mars-insight-lander-snaps-its-first-selfie-red-ncna947271

https://www.nbcnews.com/mach/science/nasa-s-mars-insight-lander-snaps-its-first-selfie-red-ncna947271

Nah, we're OK. Congrats to China though, nice mission.

>>10274787

Oops, accidentally posted the same link twice, here's the other one.

https://solarsystem.nasa.gov/news/808/nasas-new-horizons-mission-reveals-entirely-new-kind-of-world/

>>10274791
it's not only about the space mission, im talking about shit like pic related

>>10266285
>hurr durr ackshually the nazis were le ebil racists that didn't invent anything, it was this (((Jewish))) scientist that did all the ackshual work

>>10264816
USA has a policy of Overspend-a-ton-in-each-state-so-every-congressman-gets-a-cut budget

>>10266285
Actually it is China that invented rocketry.

>>10266121
Flying to the moon requiers mastering many of those
While the space race (get to space) was won by the USSR the much harder Moon race (get to the moon) was won by the USA

>>10276027
there was no moon race retard
it was more like
>Soviets launch satellite into space
USA: oh fuck
>Soviets launch satellite to the moon
USA: OH FUCK
>Soviets launch human into space
FUCK BOSS WHAT DO WE DO
"I know, direct all of our resources on the Apollo mission and say that the goal is the moon"
>Soviets literally don't respond
"SEE?! WE FUCKING DID IT! WE WON!"

>>10276209
USSR won that one too because they were smart enough to realize how stupid it is to waste resources on "people to the moon".

>>10270422
Ain't paranormal until you mention ayyys.

>>10276224
not really, they only gave up on their own plans to send people there because the USA was first

>>10276257
obviously, but it was never "this or nothing" like for the USA, more of a "would be cool if we secretly designed our own rocket and beat them to the moon too lmao". After all, they launched venera during that time, the first space station and a few other interesting missions after.

>>10267031
>They'll be able to sit back and bombard any nation they want with complete impunity.
We already went trough this during the cold war you fuck, theres no advantage at all to having your weapons in space. Sub based icbms are 100% stealthy until launched and they get to their target in less than four minutes.
Your orbital weapons platform is literally hundreds of times more expensive, it's ultra noticeable (impossible to hide theres no stealth in space) takes longer to get to the target and can be shot down even by non space faring nations. (all it takes is a simple rocket that goes up and intercepts your path)
That is of course unless it is in a very high orbit, in the moon perhaps? then sure, it cant be shot down but it also takes ridiculously longer to get to earth, like a couple of days, by the time the missiles are even 1/4 of the way there all your bases are glass.

0% strategic advantage to being in space, this was thrororougly worked out during the cold war

>>10276209
One of my lecturers worked on the space race missions. He said it was all out crazy, held together with rubber bands and chewing gum. He was impressed there were so few fatalities.

>>10276257
No. Korolev died and his successors were not as competent.

>>10273680
There is a picture from Apollo 14 where Venus just happens to be just barely in the shot, and shows up.

>>10273680
>Shouldn't they at least be able to see Earth from the far side of the moon where the Earth is never visible?

No.

>>10273939
Dunno how adjustable their camera is. But no, it would not be a spectacle never seen from human devices before. Hubble would have them beat by a long shot.

>>10274572
Your inability to understand what you are looking at is not really all that strange.

>>10277184
>No. Korolev died and his successors were not as competent.

Little of Column A, little of Column B. They did continue space flight post-Korolev, and had a very successful unmanned and manned station program.

Even had SPK lived, their fractured and underfunded manned lunar program was not likely to succeed. The problems were really well above his level, in the government that would not get all their shit in one place and turn him loose -- or sideline him and turn somebody else loose. But running several parallel programs without giving any of them sufficient funds was not going to get the job done

robotic moon base when?

>>10277184
>>10277227
If korolev had been kept alive soviest would have gotten to the moon first. Their plan was better, more humble saner and better over all.

Simply assemble a craft in orbit using 3 soyuz launches. Smaller craft, send 2 people instead of 3 to the moon, but it would have been peanuts compared to building a retardedly huge fuck rocket.

3 soyuz launches, 3 launches of the most reliable rocket in history

>>10266264
Thanks for this.>>10266300
In a similar mount of flight unless you want to count Nedelin that will bump up the numbers for ivans quite nicely

>>10276224
Right better to have N1 blow up the launch pad a few times

>>10266300
Americans killed 4 times more astronauts.

They also had like literally 100.000 times bigger budget. They have no excuse, russians had much less money and had to compete because of the evil capitalist imperialist agression, all teh while keeping their basic development indicators higher than in the modern world.

Their accidents were totally negligent.
-XX century scientists didn't know oxygen and combustion were related
-Engineer called to let launch control know most likely scenario was it would explode. Nasa decided to chance it.


But worst of all, the most blatant show of difference between communist-ourpriorityishelpignthepeople-mentality and capitalist-idontcareifihavetokillababytoearn1moredollar is where the victims came from.

Russian soviet cosmonauts who died were ultra rugged manly men not afraid of anything who were military and had reasonable reason to expect death , the space missions were 100% critical to resist the evil invasion of capitalist empire, so they went and did what had to be done, and died gloriously defending their country.

On the other hand americans first of all made unnecesary missions , like 100% seriously, missions that could be unmanned they made it manned with the shuttle because, hey what does a capitalist care about life. They employed a ton of civilian and sold them the shuttle was safeish did not disclose that the engineers who made it adviced it shouldn't fly.

So they went ahead and grabbed an innocent civilian high school teacher who had NOTHING to do with the evil war of the empire, like a civilian a pretty normal housewife that was gonna raise beautyful children and they putted her in an iron coffin which THEY TOTALLY knew it would explode. Even the engineer who made the shuttle called nasa and say " dont launch it will explode" and nasa replied "lol who cares if she dies she cant sue us".

>>10266391
Wow i dont know wether to hate fuck her for one week striaght or tuck her in bed and sing her a lullaby. Probabbly both at the same time

>>10277639
what the actual fuck

>>10277639
Yeah but America's space program completely and utterly murks everyone else's.

>>10277660
he's right about the shuttle being kind of bad and a waste of astronauts
Apollo kicked the shit out of the Soviets tho

>>10277664
>Apollo kicked the shit out of the Soviets tho
how? by proving americans could achieve an arbitrary goal by spending 1.000.000.000.000.000.000.000.000 times more than the other side and employing a nazi?
communist could have done that too if they werent under attack by evil empire and using money to bring dignified life to their people.

>>10277639
based and redpilled. soviets did nothing wrong

>>10277361
>nuh uh it don't count

>>10267077
It's dark side because you can never see it from earth, not because it's aways dark.