/sci/ - Science & Math

>>15584418
martian landscape: the roggs and the landmarks.

Page 1 schizo is a good addition to /sfg/, since he's only annoying for a little while before he leaves, I just hope he never figures out how to use the catalog.

>>15360993

>>11261253

An entirely true and valid point.

Its the premise that disturbs me. Since day one, they were telling us that we would be living in space soon. The science fiction fantasy of the 50's spoke of us living in the stars by the nineties. By the 80's it was going to happen in the next century.

The next century is here and the only thing all this research produced was ways to accelerate consumerism, transmit propaganda and take better aim on foreign adversaries.

And now we are hearing the same beat in a new tune: "The Earth will become uninhabitable". They intend to make Mars a way-station to nowhere. At some point, they will need labor. And they will do the same as they do to soldiers and cosmonauts now: treat them like lab monkeys and mules while calling them heroes.

Any place they build, they control. Its theirs. They dont intend to share it. And what does that say about their intentions towards the people of Earth? Exploration eventually becomes militarized. It will be orbiting trailer parks for labor and fortresses for elites. And if they know all the value is on the planet, how does one expect them to treat the people on it?

They are literally going to be building higher ground. And higher ground has implications that are not good for people below.

I'm struggling to remember any time in history a technologically advanced group met a primitive group and actually followed through with the Hollywood notion of "we come in peace". My point is that human history suggests they aren't leaving for the stars, they are taking positions. Thats just how these things go. If Russia or China had supremacy of orbit, the ability to wreck our satellite systems with impunity and force us into 19th century economies to manipulate, what reasonable person would believe they wouldn't.

I dont understand why anyone wants to go to Mars. There's nothing there. Its not even worthwhile real estate. Theres no possibility of terraforming it.

For that matter, I dont know why anyone wants to be in space period. Its literally nothing. Its freezing with no air and dark with lots of schrapnel shooting around.

Anyone saying we can even leave the solar system simply doesnt have a sense of its scale or the distance to the next nearest star

>>9504873

Be damned if I would ever go up there. Space has dozens of ways to kill you. Its not meant for humans.

I think the value of the space programs to the human spirit is simply the joy of exploration.

In reality, to me, there is nothing up there, leastways we can get too. If you do the math even broadly, theres no reason to think we will ever be able to reach anything useful.

Mars, for example, is worthless real estate. If Mars conditions were anywhere on Earth, it would be the last place you wanted to build or settle anything.

I like to think we will at least find better ways to harness energy from the sun someday. But as for ever leaving the system or finding anything usable worth the expense and risk, I just dont see it.

Although I guess one could make the argument that there is some value in escaping the rest of humanity. It makes the issue of refugees and migrants a lot more interesting anyways. I think that was the premise of the film Elysium, probably other films as well.

Reasonable estimations about space though, even with a modicum of knowledge of scale, suggest that we not only will never make contact with other intelligence, but that we never have. The scale is simply too great to think either species would survive the length of travel to intersect.

I suppose they could interact with each other in areas more populated with star systems, but even then, it seems unlikely two species would find each other unless the evolved simultaneously in the same star system, and that would require both planets being able to support life in the same eras.

The pictures are nice though.

According to this article, pain is all "in the head." Is it possible to train ourselves to not feel pain? Even to dampen the amount that we feel?
>inb4 shut up

Sun setting from Mars.

Martian Sunset

What would it be like to see a sunset on Mars? To help find out, the robotic rover Spirit was deployed in 2005 to park and watch the Sun dip serenely below the distant lip of Gusev crater. Colors in the above image have been slightly exaggerated but would likely be apparent to a human explorer's eye. Fine martian dust particles suspended in the thin atmosphere lend the sky a reddish color, but the dust also scatters blue light in the forward direction, creating a bluish sky glow near the setting Sun. Because Mars is farther away, the Sun is less bright and only about two thirds the diameter it appears from Earth. Images like this help atmospheric scientists understand not only the atmosphere of Mars, but atmospheres across the Solar System, including our home Earth.

apod.nasa.gov/apod/

which planet would be easier to terraform and maintain the livable climate: Venus or Mars?

Hello, /sci/

So, lately I've been into those conspiracy threads and found out interesting facts about sodium fluoride. It didn't hit me until I was brushing my teeth today, that the shampoo I use, tooth brush I use and the mouth wash I use contain that substance. So, then I went around, googling stuff and turns out that this makes you retarded, docile and generally a zombie. Now, I have been brushing my teeth day after day for years and I wouldn't say that I am less capable or any docile than I could be.

So my question is, what gives with this shit? Oversensitivity of veganfags or just lucky metabolism of mine? Also, how can I avoid it the best I can?

also, not amerifag here, and I am unsure whether the tap water here is being fluorized

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/increase-budget-nasa/JHhPNStY

WHO NEED DAT MEDICAID WHEN U GOT YOSELF SUM ROCKETS, BOY?

Boomp for curiosity.

A personal favorite of mine.

I am looking for information about mars, about current progress, financing, problems and anything you have really.

I read some good copy pastas and seen some good images before, so if anybody has any avaible it would be appreciated.

Once done with the ships I'd ventured further down the main decline, to the next deeper level of the complex. There wasn't really any reason for not proceeding with multiple fronts of exploration simultaneously, but sometimes I like to work one step at a time, just for old time's sake. Especially here, where it had become obvious I was stepping into a great and tragic story. Out of respect, and also to make any possible future retelling simpler, it seemed like a single continuous focal point was better suited to the situation.

And so to the Library. Where the main hope from the start was that the fragile data storage technology in the ships wasn't the only method known in this place. Unfortunately it was worse. All paper, no digitized storage systems present in the library at all! Strike two, and chances of finding what I wanted not looking good at all.

Level three turned out to be heavy industrial. Smelting furnaces, foundries, and far-reaching ore mining tunnels. There'd been little conflict here, since by the time the invaders reached this level the defense seemed to have exhausted virtually all its mobile units. Nor had the invaders bothered much with demolition. Perhaps they had mostly pushed on downwards to level four, and in reaching it had caused all opposition to collapse. Level Four was where my almost-brother had waited to die. This level was mostly another regular grid of tunnels, containing much the same thing throughout. Processing units. Endless banks of them. In some places they weren't awfully corroded, and I could walk among them seeing this place as it must once have been. Here also there was no lighting installed, since no need of it. The processing units were fairly heat efficient and yet in such numbers they required a flow of cooling air. Trays along the tunnel walls, carrying thick bundles of power cables and optical fibers.

My friend and I want you guys to blow our minds with some science facts. Proceed.
In return, martian sunrise.

What if Mars were the size of earth? How would it affect the rest of the solar system? would it push us closer to the sun? or would it pull us away? How would it affect the asteroid field?

>>1535926
i would say
>holy shit, It's beautiful

pic related, its the sunset

Will i be safe from god's judgment if i moved to mars!?
No where on the bible does it says that mars would be affected during judgment day.

Why don't the atheist just smack Phobos onto mars and make it habitable?

pic related, its the martian sunset

Do you think we will make it to Mars before the century ends, or hopefully before 2050?

We, the rest of the world, will be waiting, America.

pic related, martian sunset.