/sci/ - Science & Math

>>14505520
>Predictions predicated on the possibility of aether existing were contradicted by observational findings.
which theory of the aether?

>you would be able to find differences in how fast light is traveling
we have no proof light travels in the first place, let alone "has a speed"

>>14505834
>light is the medium
And yet is only defined by what the medium does. It is not the medium, it's action. As real as a shadow.

>>14506085
>Light is a wave in ather and has some speed C
I don't understand, the aether is everywhere. So "it's already there". Why do you call what it's doing a speed?

>>14506809
Gr is a poor intuitive understanding of how the universe functions through the eyes of assuming dualists.

>People who say this are at best reifying coordinate systems
"Spacetime" is literally a reified coordinate system

>>14507042
It's kind of hilarious, that pop sci manages to explain spacetime to the layman better than Einstein could have imagined.

>>14507175
>light is not this light
It's all "Waves" and a "Wave" is what something does.

>>14507331
Basically you make a null result and then explain it using pure descriptions alone.

>>14507323
>You do realize that special relativity isn't a theory of light right?
You do realize that without the "Speed of light" being constant the whole thing falls on its ass right? That space expansion relative to "the speed of light" is a total misnomer completely? That if light did in fact change its speed due to the medium it passes through, that "light deflection" and "gravitational waves" still go unexplained?

>>12303217
EU fags will never be able to explain why it's valid because they get caught up in trying to disprove/understand atomist shit that was never verified in the first place.
Physifags will never be able to explain why it's not valid because they focus on stigmatizing the theory/an aspect of it using the above mentioned "never verified shit", or using their own theories to. Such is the case with every thread like this that will get to 100+ replies containing at most 5-10 actual posters who care about the topic.
I don't even have to mention what particular arguments these types will bring up/speak of, because in the end both will be talking of no use. Will at least be something else entertaining for me to engage in today other than watching seething polling experts.

>>11920994
>neato math "trick
math itself is a trick, it explains nothing just like your magic number set.

>>11921040
>worth investigating
Now explain why it's worth investigating.

>>11921159
>are you not familiar with tesla and his "schizo shit"
Are you? Do you even know what he meant by "369"? Are you even sure that's his quote? Can you provide context to a quote other than "secret universe" esoteric bullshit?
>not even related.
It is, it's a multiple. Another neat math description that literally doesn't mean anything, like yours.

>>11922210
Because they actually believe that math is an explanation and not a description

>>11922216
>bird lad
All the weird peeves Tesla had and you choose the fact that he showed compassion to an animal. Get some new material.

>>11922325
ah see this guy knows some shit.

>>11923085
>right but thats how math work
lol, base 10 math yes. Now what about base 2?
>why? this is not even the point
it's math though, so that means its magic right?
>yeh its just a cool pattern to look into, its like that you divided any fibonacci with his predecessor it will end up with the scope of 1.618
Math cannot derive the golden ratio and leaves it as an expression. That couldn't possibly mean anything significant or important right? Tell me how "3,6,9" will work when calculating something incommensurable.

>>10828511
>thinking I would stoop so low to browse Reddit
Nah
>>10828525
>theres only one and hes all alone.
>hes going to die alone
Are you saying that you're so weak that you can't imagine this happening to you? Do you think that there's some kind of special place for you just because you agree with more people and have others agree with you? That there's some kind of transcendence to be had from that? Lol no, that's how stupid herded sheep and Shepard are made. I refuse to be Shepard or sheep, both jobs are a waste of time and energy. In the end we're all future lubricant for the crust.
>>10828542
I don't know who this person is. Also I have never used the word "quantum" without making fun of it because there is absolutely no quantity to the universe.
>>10828547
>so this is what it feels like to live rent free
Honestly thanks for posting this, you're saving me lots of time. Saved.

>>10561661
>oh, okay, you work on a plane that goes beyond concepts. your thoughts are actual "reality" that goes beyond models and concepts. you must be very special then, right?
Where do you think "math" came from?
>your "reeeeeeee that's not what a field really is" crap fails when our mathematical descriptions of it fully describe all the associated phenomena
Psychosis. It counts what is there but does not explain what it is. It does not tell you the taste of an apple, or have the equation for love. A shadow for example can be "measured" but it certainly isn't real. It's a privation of something else (light). It is the absence of properties. Math in this case has reified that which has no properties or subsistence in reality.

>holograms could work however they want. so could spirits and magic. your theory is equivalent to those ideas
No you jackass. They work by "self-similarity". They aren't "copies" because that would be fallacy of composition. The parts are not the whole, they are SIMILAR. When you cut a hologram (picture type), both cuts are not the "same" even though they produce a similar image. You can have all sorts of various sized cuts and they would all do the same thing. Same with a magnet. Same with you.
Tell me, do you think that you or this entire planet would "exist" if it were not for the light from the sun? No. We would vanish instantly. We'd sublimate into the pressure mediation of "space". They only thing that was holding that back in the first place was the goddamn sun! That's how a hologram works. It defracts light into an image using itself (light). No sun, no motion, no movement, no memory, no-self similarity.