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The demand for bigger payloads is increasing. The launch pads can’t take the stress of launching larger rockets. IT IS TIME.

Could you make a stainless steel sea dragon?

>>12735528
Who cares, call me when Sea Dragon gets grenelit.

>>12694840
>Then how we'd probably look ultra buff and crazy strong compared to the average ayylmao.
I love the idea that humans are basically the dwarves of the galaxy. Come from a supermassive planet with absurd gravity that requires comically large rockets to get off of.

>>12541354
Obligatory
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRMDcC0QvFQ

>>12513159
The Orion is overrated and a memetic trap.
It's like propaganda, good and simple in appearance, wrong and complex behind the scenes and you can't get rid of it because simpletons think it's awesome.

This is a drive that cannot afford to fail even once because its failures mode are all horrible.
you simply cannot use it to take off if it fly over anything of importance,
you cannot afford to lose prototypes during take-off and landing one will require minor miracle,
all the complexity you believe to have escaped you'll get it trying to produce and use the finely shaped bombs, like trying to build a watch using only a big hammer.
you cannot use it in any important orbit because its engine will generate debris,
it can hardly be throttled for fine maneuver or used near anything else,
it cannot be built with much redundancy because its starting mass and shape are big,
the only fuel it can use require a long supply chain, so it will be from Earth.

If you want a better meme, look up the Sea Dragon. It have less problem.

>>12355131
Where we are going there are no fishes. Well, there won't be any after.

Just imagine

BUILD IT ALREADY YOU FUCKING COWARDS!

Sea launch to orbit pros and cons?

>can use seawater-derived propellants refined on site
>can be launched literally anywhere there's water and calm weather
>needs almost no launch support infrastructure aside from some tow/refinery ships

>>11772921
You can launch it straight from the water. Shock is minimal. Fish under it would be fucked but in the grand scheme of things it wouldn’t be much different than worrying about birds hitting the shuttle

what are legal implications of building one of these by a shipyard and then launching them to shit and dab on spaceX

Why does no one ever bring up the Sea Dragon? I want to talk about it with people but even people who should know everything about it have often never heard of it.

>>10773391
The virgin SLS
The CHAD Sea Dragon

was this ever going to happen?

How low could you push cost per kg to LEO of a modernized Sea Dragon launch system design, built using modern manufacturing techniques?

>>10548568
>Sea Dragon never ever

>>10537846
No preferred style, I wanna see what your interpretation of the Sea Dragon looks like, we've pretty much all seen the classic design already

>>10530348
SEA DRAGOGN

>No Sea Dragon.

>>10504002

>>10446025
I prefer the idea of a big dumb rocket that can lift hundreds of tons into orbit in one go than the reusable, sub 100 ton rockets we have now, imagine how much cheaper space launches would become, and thus how much more stuff we can throw up there without having to worry about cost/weight restrictions

redpill me on why Sea Dragon is unfeasible and shouldn't be resurrected as a way of getting serious tonnages into orbit. Pro-tip: you can't

Congratulations, you just reinvented the multi-stage rocket, now with less efficient fuel and abrupt, high-g acceleration to deal with.