/sci/ - Science & Math

>>11808014
>>11809282
The problem here is the analogy beween political interests and monetary interests.
Scientists who get paid by industries have a clear and direct interest in lying, to get their money.
Scientists who have political ideas have a much more doubtful incentive to lie. There's no personal gain in it, and the gain for their political goal is shaky, as lies for a cause give angles of attack to the opponents. But more importantly, they formed their political ideas in the first place on a rational basis, believing that such facts cause such problems and that such actions bring such solution.. and if they had to lie about it they would have to admit to themselves first that their ideas are unsound, which would remove their motivation to lie for their sake.

>>11398944
>Shared grievances are the glue that holds all movements together.
Conservatives also have projects and ideals, same as everyone else.