/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.9641116]

How do we stop anti-intellectualism?

[Anonymous No.9641128]

demonstrate that intellectualism does any good

[Anonymous No.9641130]

>>9641116
Have people join us on /pol/ and /r9k/ and administer the redpill of whiteness and masculinity and tradition

Women shouldn't get to choose their own sex partners. It should be at the discretion of a group of select conservative white men

[Anonymous No.9641135]

Make the intellectuals better.

[Anonymous No.9641139]

>>9641130
/r9k/ is somewhat salvageable, but /pol/ is the definition of anti-intellectualism with their support of the Cheeto.

And your conservative ideology is the exact anti-intellectualism I'm talking about.

[Anonymous No.9641141]

>>9641116
You can do all those things and read desu

[Anonymous No.9641146]

>>9641116
Why would you want to?
I barely read jack shit and I still look like a fucking genius at the bar with my pseud ass pickin up women, pretending to be the softest of bois out here in my cute lil blazer and femme shirts.

If anyone there was ACTUALLY an intellectual I wouldn't pull my pull.

[Anonymous No.9641154]

>>9641139
You won't get entry to the kingdom of Kekistan:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAE_QQ-GcJE

[Anonymous No.9641158]

>>9641116
that's literally what the Greeks did. philosophy and art was a byproduct.

[Anonymous No.9641159]

>>9641141
Reading itself does not make an intellectual. Being an intellectual is a lifestyle. If you subscribe to a banal philosophy as that in the pic, then you cannot be an intellectual.

[Anonymous No.9641165]

>>9641139
>their support of the Cheeto
most of /pol/ doesn't support him anymore, just redditor newfags who still cling on to stale memes

[Anonymous No.9641167]

I've been trying to figure out a way to get /b/ invested in philosophy/literature. Maybe dumping the Introducing x books could help. The problem is that anti-intellecualism is easier and more seductive. It doesn't require any effort.

Like this guy >>9641130 is certainly part of the problem. "Redpilling" requires no effort by its receiver to think critically, and in fact encourages its receiver to be passive

[Anonymous No.9641168]

>>9641159
this desu
being an intellectual means devoting unprecedented time to things you feel passionate about

[Anonymous No.9641173]

Destroy most of the American south in a massive civil war.

>reading The March

[Anonymous No.9641179]

>>9641154
I don't seem to understand what you're getting at, since I've posted on /pol/ maybe once in my life, but I can assure you that I am far from a right-winger, a far left Marxist would be a closer description. I'll tell you how intellectuals in the US voted this election: we voted for Bernie Sanders in the primary election and Hillary Clinton in the general.
>>9641165
Maybe they can be saved then and become far-left socialist intellectuals.

[Anonymous No.9641190]

Just get fit, you lazy bastards.

[Anonymous No.9641195]

>>9641179
>we voted for Bernie Sanders in the primary election and Hillary Clinton in the general.
You actively want to make this country less white? You deserve an eternity in Hell for betraying your white ancestors of decency, morals, virtue, and uprightness

[Anonymous No.9641206]

>>9641116
Stop low IQ third world immigration into high IQ white nations responsible for 99.9% of intellectual endeavors.

[Anonymous No.9641217]

>>9641159
I didn't say adopt those things as a philosophy I just said you can do them, and in all honesty if you self identify as an "intellectual" I doubt you are one

[Anonymous No.9641228]

>>9641167
>screencapping your own post

Just kill yourself, how goddamn pathetic are you really?

[Anonymous No.9641233]

>>9641116
Reason with it.

[Anonymous No.9641240]

>>9641159
the greeks were all ripped chads

[Anonymous No.9641243]

>>9641228
Wasn't my post though, I'm American

[Anonymous No.9641248]

>>9641167
You NEVER have to think critically about the truth. The White Spirit within all of my brothers is the mechanism for welcoming Truth into our hearts, not your sick, Jewish logic. The White Spirit, being pure welcomes Truth passively. Untruth, being impute, cannot mix with the White Spirit and is thusly rejected as such.

[Anonymous No.9641271]

>>9641248
Praise Kek!

I am literally standing in the middle of my living room, arm raised aloft, with tears streaming down my cheeks. Praise Kek! Shadilay! Deus fucking Vult

[Anonymous No.9641273]

>>9641248
>Jewish logic
Kek

[Anonymous No.9641284]

>>9641146
i feel you, because I'm the same, but I think there are intellectuals, they just don't care to pick up sluts, too busy doing work. Also maybe the women wouldn't like them, they care more for the looks, the style.

[Anonymous No.9641286]

>>9641139
>>9641179
Bait, right?

[Anonymous No.9641296]

>>9641286
Leave until you are 18+ cuck

[Anonymous No.9641301]

>>9641296
What did you mean by this?

[Anonymous No.9641383]

>>9641179
>I'll tell you how intellectuals in the US voted this election
For Stein, probably, or a Bernie write-in. I was a Johnson voter, but I never claimed to be an intellectual.

[Anonymous No.9641391]

>>9641383
>>I'll tell you how intellectuals in the US voted this election
>For Stein, probably, or a Bernie write-in
Why?

[Anonymous No.9641415]

>>9641383
Green Party is best party, but Stein's foreign policy was pretty shit

[Anonymous No.9642815]

>>9641248
And therein lies the problem. How can one learn anything new when he holds truth as self-evident and complete? How do you teach the guy who 'knows'?

[Anonymous No.9642915]

>>9641139
>/r9k/ is somewhat salvageable, but /pol/ is the definition of anti-intellectualism with their support of the Cheeto

you've got it backwards. at least /pol/ sometimes manages to hold halfway decent discussions on interesting topics. /r9k/ is just a sewer of failed /soc/ rejects who haven't had a single illuminating thought in their entire lives

[Anonymous No.9642917]

>>9641139
>huu huu muh Cheeto
Stop nominating criminals.

[Anonymous No.9642918]

>>9641116
Why do you ELITIST ASSHOLES hate audio books?

[Anonymous No.9642923]

>>9641130
Hi Elliot :^)

[Anonymous No.9642925]

>>9641179
>>9641139
Gold.

[Anonymous No.9642929]

>>9641415
Yeah she didn't want to fund enough terrorist groups.

[Anonymous No.9642934]

>>9641139

[Anonymous No.9642950]

>>9641116
>>9641130
>waaah those /fit/izens are mean bullies

[Anonymous No.9642994]

>>9642915
>/r9k/ is just a sewer of failed /soc/ rejects who haven't had a single illuminating thought in their entire lives
A good many of them are trannies in addition to that.

[Anonymous No.9643013]

>>9641128

[Anonymous No.9643373]

>>9641116

Extremist politics for the most part are anti intellectual. Good examples of anti intellectuals were the Fascists/Nazis of WWII, but similarly their counterparts on the left who executed the "intelligensia" of many countries. In the modern age it is basically the same thing. Take /pol/ for instance (very anti intellectual mostly) and social justice warriors.

I get really tempted to sometimes return to that teenage nihilist angst. This world is fucked.

[Anonymous No.9643407]

When I first saw /r/The_Donald/ I thought the users were posting ironically.

[Anonymous No.9643593]

>>9641139
>literally you

[Anonymous No.9643608]

>>9641167
>Irregardless
Anyway this is true, everything to them that they don't like gets dismissed as a jewish conspiracy. If you go in there and reply with facts against their hivemind, watch how they'll flat out ignore your posts and keep circle-jerking the same arguments you just refuted, etc etc. I've had some good discussions there but mostly it's just the above.

Where an intellectual will try to debate so they can avoid defeat in the future or adjust their worldview accordingly as to have a more accurate one, a /pol/tard will avoid debate as to not risk having to change their worldview.

[Anonymous No.9643610]

What does it mean to be anti intellectual? How would you describe it?

[Anonymous No.9643615]

>>9643608
>Anyway this is true, everything to them that they don't like gets dismissed as a jewish conspiracy
Here we see someone mischaracterizing /pol/'s counter arguments of common talking points as "dismissed as a Jewish conspiracy" Can you actually provide a concrete example of this?
> If you go in there and reply with facts against their hivemind, watch how they'll flat out ignore your posts
I have never once seen this occur, usually anyone who disagrees is met with many replies. Can you post a concrete example?
>keep circle-jerking the same arguments you just refuted
What arguments did you refute, and how?

[Anonymous No.9643622]

>>9643610
Would you just read the thread.

[Anonymous No.9643628]

>>9643622
Nobody offers any real explanation.

>>9641159

This guy is the only one who attempts to but what he says can be boiled down to

>X doesn't make you an intellectual because ???
>Being an intellectual is a lifestyle because ???
>This philosophy is banal because ???
>If you like it you're not an intellectual because ???

[Anonymous No.9643637]

>>9643407
reminder that /lit/ is comprimised.

[Anonymous No.9643639]

The vast majority of anti-intellectualism is justified.

[Anonymous No.9643648]

>>9643628
IQ, politics, philosophy... I hate people asking obvious questions for pedantic reasons. Either make a point or contribute. You're not showing anyone a cool trick

[Anonymous No.9643652]

>>9643648
Knowing what it is you're talking about isn't pedantic. Your view on what constitutes "anti-intellectualism" could differ wildly from someone else's. How can you even have a discussion if we can't agree on what it is we're talking about?

[Anonymous No.9643655]

>>9643652
Nobody felt the need to ask that, it was explored already in the above replies

[Anonymous No.9643671]

>>9643615
Jesus dude, my memory isn't that fucking strong but I'll try.

>Here we see someone mischaracterizing /pol/'s counter arguments of common talking points as "dismissed as a Jewish conspiracy" Can you actually provide a concrete example of this?
Can't remember, but you literally just have to go on /pol/ and browse for an hour to see them blaming the jews for every little minutea. Oh yeah, one example was Trump flipflopping on everything and not behaving like they wanted him to, I saw multiple posters claiming and discussing how the jews were pulling his strings.

>I have never once seen this occur, usually anyone who disagrees is met with many replies. Can you post a concrete example?
Literally go into any Sweden thread. I can't remember the specifics since I don't have photographic memory, but it was something factually inaccurate that was made clear by even the article itself that they cited. Something along the lines of "Sweden removes all border guards from the Danish side" and they were all like "cuck Sweden LOL LET MORE IN etc" for 200 strong posts or so, where within the first 10 posts or so, which were made by a Dane and myself pointed out how the border guards, as stated within the article, were just to be moved to the Swedish side of the border.

>What arguments did you refute, and how?
The one above, and that's just one example. I don't know how perfect your memory is that you have a bank filled with examples you can just whoop out. It didn't take many of these for me to give up on /pol/ and stop browsing and replying.

[Anonymous No.9643672]

Weightlifting preserves the brain better than everything other than Aerobic exercise you brainlet.

Sex is good for you too. So is having a positive attitude about life.

[Anonymous No.9643683]

Seriously ''''intellectuals'''' that think that exercise is incompatible with being brainy trigger the fuck out of me.

How the fuck do you get to current year and not fucking figure out the link between exercise and preventing brain aging? Exercise promotes oxygen flow to the brain and strengthened neurons. The stereotypical weakling genius gets alzheimers at 70.

[Anonymous No.9643684]

>>9643672
I lift (have been for 7 years) and don't do cardio but I don't believe this. Do you have any sources?

[Anonymous No.9643694]

Nerd holocaust preferred.

[Anonymous No.9643703]

>>9643684
Here's some

http://www.neurology.org/content/86/20/1897

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3258000/

Most of the research focuses on aerobic exercise but even strength training helps your endurance and such.

Note exercise does NOT unfuck you once neurological decline has already happened.

Notably I have not seen good evidence of mental activity like reading actually slowing down cognitive decline. I only know of strong evidence for exercise.

[Anonymous No.9643707]

Another

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3514552/

[Anonymous No.9643716]

>>9643703
First one is cardio
Second mentions
>Limited studies have also specifically addressed resistance exercise (effort against weighting or resistance) and cognition; however, this literature is currently insufficient to draw conclusions. Hence, we primarily focus on aerobic-type exercise that potentially leads to physical fitness.

>>9643707
This one seems more akin to cardio
>The 60-minute classes were led by certified fitness instructors. For RT, both a Keiser® Pressurized Air system and free weights were used 3. Participants performed 2 sets of 6–8 repetitions and loading increased when sets were completed with proper form. The AT program was an outdoor walking program. The training stimulus started at 40% of one’s age-specific target heart rate (i.e., heart rate reserve; HRR) and progressed to 70% to 80% of HRR. The BAT program consisted of stretching, range of motion, balance exercises, and relaxation techniques 3. This group served to control for confounding variables. Participants were questioned about the presence of any adverse effects and were monitored by instructors.

Don't get me wrong though, lifting is still necessary so you can function like a young adult for a much larger part of your life. So you won't be a skelly that can barely move at 60-90 etc. I mean, it actually strengthens your joints and ligaments aside from just making you stronger (this effect is more pronounced when starting young afaik, probably has to do with the levels of circulating HGH & possibly test) Dudes like this inspire me https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKJaZDGVNWA

[Anonymous No.9643718]

>>9641130
>whiteness and masculinity and tradition
replace a spook by three spooks

wew

[Anonymous No.9643719]

Basically though, the idea that being out of shape = smart is complete bullshit. It's the other way around.

Nerdy weaklings just like to tell themselves they're smarter than bodybuilders, whose lack of intelligence is also a meme. It gives them somebody to feel better than. If they were smart at all they would be exercising. Perhaps they wouldn't necessarily be eating 5000 calories a day, injecting steroids, and working out six days a week, but it is a profoundly brainlet thing to do to not exercise whatsoever.

When somebody brags about being smart and then talks about how they don't exercise I laugh at them behind their back.

>>9643716
Third one, which I was trying to find, is actually lifting. Abliet among seniors.

[Anonymous No.9643723]

I don't have a comment I just am dumping pictures of the intersect between intelligence and exercise.

[Anonymous No.9643726]

>>9643637
Politics are now about memes and when I get upset about it I get called a shill.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernie_Sanders%27_Dank_Meme_Stash

[Anonymous No.9643749]

>>9643719
I agree completely.

>When somebody brags about being smart and then talks about how they don't exercise I laugh at them behind their back.
I tend to just confront them about it and ask why they'd want to forego all the benefits of exercise. Usually boils down to laziness, which is fair enough. I don't do cardio anywhere near as much as I should either so there you go.

>Third one, which I was trying to find, is actually lifting. Abliet among seniors
Looked more like "bodypump" to me, which is something more like cardio. I don't tend to have a very steady high heart rate throughout my workout (5m breaks etc, homegym master race).

[Anonymous No.9643766]

>>9641116
What do you mean by anti-intellectualism?
Are you talking about the lack of intellectualism or about some movement that is working against it?

[Anonymous No.9643767]

>>9641116
Every experienced lifter on /fit/ knows Jim Wendler full of shit.

[Anonymous No.9643780]

>>9643749
I do homegym too, but I keep pauses shorter. Just try shortening them gradually, it'll cost you nothing and is very likely to prove beneficial or at the very least you'll waste less time resting.

[Anonymous No.9643878]

>>9643683
There is a difference between exercise for health and exercise for strength.

[Anonymous No.9643885]

>>9641167
>I've been trying to figure out a way to get /b/ invested in philosophy/literature. Maybe dumping the Introducing x books could help

that's all you need to do. when people see something enough times they become more accepting of it. this is how all memes begin - they're spammed until everyone likes it.

[Anonymous No.9643902]

>>9643726
>this really is an article

[Anonymous No.9643950]

>>9643719
Health and fitness is fine, and a good idea, but the steroid/gymbro/zyzz/powerlifting/rippetoe culture has little to do with either health or fitness. Bodybuilders can be funny, but they're rarely smart.

99% of the great intellectuals and writers of note never squatted or deadlifted a day in their lives, so obviously neither are necessary to be a great intellectual.

It's always interesting to see lifters who think that everyone else should be equally obsessive about bench pressing or the circumference of their thighs. Most of the DYEL, never-skip-leg-day and you-gotta-lift-bro crowd are simply sharing their body dysmorphia, not giving useful advice.

"If all you have is lifting, the answer to everything looks like a barbell" - t. gym rat.

>>9643719
>Abliet
I'm assuming this is a typo, but it's funny when you actually hear people pronounce the word the way you typed it.

[Anonymous No.9644030]

Was the wisdom of /fitlit/ really lost this quickly?

[Anonymous No.9644091]

>>9641159
>You can't be healthy, happy and strong if you want to be an intellectual

lol stop making excuses for yourself and start squatting

[Anonymous No.9644095]

>>9643878
What? Strength training is what you do if you lift for health. Ridiculous 6-7 times a week bro splits is what you do if you want to look good

[Anonymous No.9644100]

>>9641116
t.never read a book

[Anonymous No.9644128]

>>9644095
>ridiculous
An hour or two in the morning really isn't that bad. It sets a good pace for the rest of the day

[Anonymous No.9644149]

>>9644128
True, but I meant to say that strength training (combined with cardio) takes less time and improves your health more than bodybuilding / cardio does.

[Anonymous No.9644200]

Anti-intellectualism doesn't exist, people just don't care about the hundredth commentary on Marx or Hegel published this year, publish something people actually care about.

[Anonymous No.9644204]

>People in this thread using politics and their adopted intellectual identity to justify sitting on their ass all day

WEW

Go exercise m8. Lift, run, bike, swim, play a sport, whatever. Leading an active lifestyle is healthy and fun.

[Anonymous No.9644378]

>>9643637
>unironically expecting someone who uses 4chan and hackers in the same sentence to be able to influence an entire board

[Anonymous No.9644452]

Fucking nerds

Some of the greatest Minds in history have advocated physical activity as an integral part of being a complete human being

Just because you didn't put any points in strength doesn't mean all of your points went into your intellect.

You don't see people in fit running around bitching about nerds that are outsmarting them. It's because it doesn't happen that way.

So fuck off nerds. The guy you quoted in the original post has written more books than you've probably read.

[Anonymous No.9644458]

I don't understand why there are so many anti-intellectual comments, obvious propaganda and generally barely thought out posts here. Sometimes the humor is fun but, most of the time, this board seems to be about taking advantage of the anonymous structure to shill idiotic thoughts that relate more to politics than literature. Maybe it's a 4chan thing, I don't know.

[Anonymous No.9644464]

>>9641116
You can stop it if you eat a ton of protein. Squat heavy. Push heavy objects. Have sex. Love life.

[Anonymous No.9644558]

>>9641116
Is that pic supposed to be anti-intellectual?

In my experience the whole fitness community isn't anti-intellectual but are just indifferent and want to look good and feel good. They aren't explicitly anti-intellectual though, especially considering the exercise and nutritional science they tend to dive into.

[Anonymous No.9644608]

>>9641116
Intellectualism is shit, and the idea that it's good or supposed to be held in high esteem is completely self-referential.

[Anonymous No.9644614]

>>9641116
By stopping capitalism.

[Anonymous No.9644616]

Don't be fragile.

[Anonymous No.9644618]

By re-uniting knowledge, arts and reason to the sacred.

[Anonymous No.9644691]

>>9641116
Stop being a closed bubble that thinks of itself as a privileged class whose justification for existence is completely self-referential. Marxism is dead and buried as an ideology, it may be possible to salvage some good insights from it but you'll need to keep waiting on the revolution of the proletariat, the EU (which was supposed to be the future) is in a more or less perpetual state of crisis, and you have no answers to the problem (and yes, it is a problem whether you want to talk about it or not) of mass immigration into Western countries.

[Anonymous No.9644725]

>exercising for aesthetics
>not exercising to defend yourself and others while strengthening your willpower and ability to face conflict

Combat sports are best sports, but obviously a lot of professional fighters are still shitty people. It's best to incorporate them holistically into your lifestyle.

[Anonymous No.9644729]

>>9644618
+1

[Anonymous No.9644785]

>>9643767
5/3/1 is a legit program though

[Anonymous No.9644804]

>>9641206
IQ is a meme.

[Anonymous No.9644814]

>>9641206
If you truly believe in IQ, you would see asians as superior in most intellectual endeavors.

[Anonymous No.9644844]

Intellectuals,
As titans sleep openly,
The ravens scavenge.

[Anonymous No.9645073]

>>9644804
IQ predicts success in many ways.

>>9644814
And that's why you can see that. Universities are filling up with Asian people faster than universities can find new ways to avoid admitting them.

[Anonymous No.9645119]

>>9645073
whats your IQ then??? I wanna bet that mine is higher.

[Anonymous No.9645143]

>>9645119
I don't know, I've never been tested. I just know that the averages work like this: askenazis > asians > whites > blacks. I'm white btw. And I know that IQ is correlated with income and a lot of other things people consider important.

[Anonymous No.9645307]

>>9643637
>creating communist generals on /pol/ would force the reactionaries back to stormfront
lol, /pol/ used to have communist generals all the time back in the day, right alongside the libertarian, natsoc and conservative generals.

[Anonymous No.9645334]

>>9641130

[Anonymous No.9645354]

>>9642929
underrated

[Anonymous No.9645371]

>>9641116
Get better intellectuals

[Anonymous No.9645403]

>>9642915
I went from loving Trump, to hating Trump to just accepting Trump for who he is. I am now a merely a believer in what he stands for, all that is not Democrat and all that is personally discovered and uncovered truths based on empirical evidence. Now I realize that I never needed Trump to be awakened from my ObamaComa like this, it was in the books and websites and finally in myself all along.

Doesn't mean I need to go full retard about liking Trump and I am allowed to realize he is deeply flawed but at least he got me to actual being caring about ideologies and politics again and be aware of the Deep State control over my life and how they have always been influencing me.

I feel like I cannot legit defend Trump without losing all my friends but I can at least push back when Democrats go too far, so its what I do whenever forced to talk about politics.

[Anonymous No.9645511]

reminder that Plato, Socrates and Aristotle, three of the most intelligent men to ever live, were absolutely motherfucking ripped

[Anonymous No.9645515]

/fitlit/ philosophers

plato
nietzsche
taleb

so far so good, who are we missing

[Anonymous No.9645522]

>>9645515
Nietzsche was skinnyfat tho

[Anonymous No.9645526]

>>9645522
skinnyfatness notwithstanding his contributions to the /lit/ science of health, together with his tremendous moustache, already confirm him for the /fitlit/ pantheon

stoics? i say aye

[Anonymous No.9645539]

>>9644814
Rote learning ability =/= superiority in intellectual ability or endeavors. Not even close. East Asians are ant people. They're incapable of thinking creatively. Hence why white people are responsible for 97% of scientific achievement and east Asians steal all their technology from us.

[Anonymous No.9645594]

>>9645539
>1400-1950
Honestly I feel like this time frame was purposely chosen to not upset the French more than any proper methodology.

[Anonymous No.9645628]

>>9645594
Unlikely. It's from the Bell Curve, methodology's sound.

[Anonymous No.9645658]

>>9644814
eastern Asians (Japan Korea) are smarter on average, however it would seem that they lack a certain amount of creative innovation that white nations have in mass

[Anonymous No.9645736]

>>9641271
might wanna put a tampon in. youre getting overly emotional about stupid shit

[Anonymous No.9645762]

>>9645539
>East Asians are ant people. They're incapable of thinking creatively
>invented printing, paper, gunpoweder, the compass, metal bells, rowing oars, bombs, toothbrush, cast irons, crossbows, fireworks, kites, the merit system, playing cards, seisometers,
also
>mistaking the history of capitalism for intellectual ability
Damn dude. Your claim sounds like pure woo

[Anonymous No.9645909]

>>9645762
I've spent a lot of time east Asia and have studied these matters for years, but I assume you have not so I'll give you two answers intended to expand your frame of mind.

First, it may perhaps be wrong for you to outright assume that the Chinese themselves invented these things since there is an enormous amount of evidence of Indo-European/Aryan migration into ancient china, and even some of the Chinese leaders of old were described and portrayed as having blue eyes and red beards. I won't say that they were responsible for any of the innovations you mentioned, but the possibility shouldn't be brushed aside. Here's an article if you would like to know more about this subject:

http://www.renegadetribune.com/ancient-aryans-china/

Second, it's important to look at what the Chinese *did* with those discoveries, assuming they were their own, since that's really the point here. What did they do with gunpowder? Nothing really, they made fireworks. How did they use the seafaring tools you mentioned? Ships weren't even allowed to go a couple miles off the coast.

These are merely a two examples of east Asians failing to create applications for the things we're assuming they invented, which is the point I was making. It's not that they aren't smart or capable of inventing things here and there; it's that their backwards culture prevents them from utilizing them creatively and effectively for creative to advance their societies.

[Anonymous No.9645941]

>>9645909
Sounds like total revisionism to me.
>Aryans lived in China
>therefore the Chinese couldn't have invented ALL of them
Sounds totally baseless to me m8.
also,
>Sourcing the Renegade Tribune
>a literal white nationalist "news site"
Send actual sources please.
>Second, it's important to look at what the Chinese *did* with those discoveries
You're using a pretty arbitrary standard for "intelligence" and "worth". The value of each invention, and the value of how they were put to use, are subjective as hell. Measuring scientific or intellectual progress, as if it were some objective, mesaurable thing, is backwards and misinformed.

>it's that their backwards culture prevents them from utilizing them creatively and effectively for creative to advance their societies.
Sounds like you really learned a lot in your ""time spent in east asia""". You don't seem to know anything about the topics you speak. Pure ideology.

[Anonymous No.9645951]

>>9641116
>leddit
>hbo
>social media
You nuke the USA.

[Anonymous No.9645971]

>>9645941
This is the epitome of a shotgun emotional response. Not only did you not read what I said but you offered no substance or argument.

>Measuring scientific or intellectual progress, as if it were some objective, mesaurable thing, is backwards and misinformed.
How unscientific. Pure pedantry.

Try again.

[Anonymous No.9646011]

>>9642934
endless jess is my idol.

[Anonymous No.9646018]

>>9645971
Why should I take the time to respond to non-arguments with arguments?
Your argument relies entirely on a
>what if white people made these inventions
>It no longer matters if they made the inventions, it's how they used them goalpost moving.
>I stuided this stuff for a long time, I know better than you, my dad works for Nintendo.
Especially when you're using blatantly non-credible sources and are just pursuing an ideology?

You've also yet to defend exactly how your criterion of "intellecutal" measurement is in any way valid.
>How unscientific. Pure pedantry.
Historians don't make value judgments you ignoramus. This is the norm. It's a pillar of what makes this shit unbiased.

[Anonymous No.9646042]

>>9645909
They valued their leisure time too much to bother advancing technology. Nothing compares to Tang dynasty poetry.

[Anonymous No.9646055]

>>9646018
>Historians don't make value judgments you ignoramus
Actual historians do, not the ((modern)) ones

[Anonymous No.9646057]

>>9646018
You failed.

You intentionally mischaracterized what I said in the first part twice because you cannot read properly.

You have emotion, and no argument.

>pursuing an ideology
Do you expect anyone to believe you aren't doing just that? The article is well sourced -- it's *your* ideology that is getting in the way here.

You have nothing. Stop wasting people's time.

[Anonymous No.9646202]

>>9645594
There is a reason for the time-frame having to do with the amount of 'accomplishment" increasing greatly after 1400.

>>9645628
No it's not you dumbass, it says at the top of the page it's from Human Accomplishment.

[Anonymous No.9646218]

>>9644091
This except OHP

[Anonymous No.9646242]

>>9641159
>hey where do you work out

>at the library

[Anonymous No.9647522]

>>9641168
that's exactly what gymrats do retard

[Anonymous No.9647530]

>>9641116
the only thing worse than intellectuals are anti-intellectuals

[Anonymous No.9647535]

>>9641139
>le cheeto
Brainlet spotted

[Anonymous No.9647542]

>>9644091
What a fucking beast
Is that autistic clarence?

[Anonymous No.9647580]

>>9644091
How can you be this strong without that much muscle mass?
My legs look almost like that and I can barely squat 100kg.

[Anonymous No.9647608]

>>9647580
? You can't see his legs. Calves are 90% genetics and their size doesn't correlate with strength at all. Being strong doesn't always mean being big too. Strength training focuses on creating dense muscle fibers.

Clarence is pretty fucking big though

[Anonymous No.9647613]

>>9641116
You can't. Most people are fucking stupid.

[Anonymous No.9647618]

>>9647580
>My legs look almost like that and I can barely squat 100kg.
Without seeing you, I can promise you they are not big at all.
>>9647542
It it Clarence, yes.

[Anonymous No.9647739]

>>9641146
>>9641284
Same here. I feel like a complete con because of it. Intellectual standards so low.

[Anonymous No.9647815]

>>9641146
Post a picture of your style

[Anonymous No.9647827]

>mfw

[Anonymous No.9647832]

>>9645307
They still do m8.

[Anonymous No.9647881]

>>9643637
What if I told you that memecucks and muh melanin (((race realism))) is a more formidable threat to /lit/ than some dickless LARPing "leftists?" /lit/ handles both relatively well.

[Anonymous No.9647892]

>>9647832
except it's one spanish guy memeing to himself

[Anonymous No.9647895]

>>9643683
>Exercise promotes oxygen flow to the brain and strengthened neurons.

>Posts pic of totally batshit insane loon exercising.

[Anonymous No.9648078]

>>9641116
its a shame people have to hate things to justify being pathetic and not changing for the better.

[Anonymous No.9648187]

>>9647580
Being strong has more to do with your nervous system than it does accumulating mass... to an extent