A question to the Nietzsche connoisseurs: If he was alive and sane today, what contemporary art would he enjoy? Would he enjoy early Animal Collective? Would he enjoy David Lynch films?

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Anonymous Wed Jan 11 10:43:15 2017 No.8959998 [Reply] [Original]

A question to the Nietzsche connoisseurs: If he was alive and sane today, what contemporary art would he enjoy? Would he enjoy early Animal Collective? Would he enjoy David Lynch films?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 11 10:47:44 2017 No.8960005 >>8959998 i don't think he would write about pop culture much cus he's not a tool is there a wagner of today? he might like Altman

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 11 10:49:53 2017 No.8960010 >>8960005 >implying Wagner wasnt the pop culture of his time

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 11 10:49:57 2017 No.8960011 Lynch yes, AnCo no

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 11 10:50:55 2017 No.8960013 >>8960011 Care to elaborate?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 11 10:53:19 2017 No.8960026 He would adore Haruhi, the school festival arc of Hyouka and maybe even Utena.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 11 10:54:01 2017 No.8960028 >>8960010 no, i'm saying he didnt' write about pop culture then, and wouldn't write about it now. Wagner was something else (not pop culture).

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 11 10:54:32 2017 No.8960031 >>8960026 Please dont post any weebshit in my thread, thanks

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 11 10:54:43 2017 No.8960032 >>8960028 What was the pop culture of the late 1800s like?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 11 10:55:24 2017 No.8960037 >>8960026 go away

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 11 10:55:34 2017 No.8960038 >>8959998 >Animal Collective Fucking kill yourself loser Nietzsche would spit in the face of those turds if he was alive

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 11 10:55:35 2017 No.8960039 >>8960028 What was the pop culture of "then", then?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 11 10:56:47 2017 No.8960040 File: 75 KB, 500x375, katana.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8960038

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 11 10:57:01 2017 No.8960041 >>8960031 >>8960037 You whiny little faggots can't refute that anime is the Gesamtkunstwerk that Wagner failed to deliver Nietzsche.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 11 10:58:56 2017 No.8960052 >>8960041 but that would be Lynch kino fuck off weeb

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 11 11:04:54 2017 No.8960070 >>8960052 Lynch makes some nicely scored period-pieces, but not even his most rapid fans would consider his works anywhere close to "complete." This is a weeb website, you're just posting on it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 11 11:06:08 2017 No.8960075 Jazz obviously or freestyle rap.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 11 11:07:13 2017 No.8960078 Nietzsche desperately needed a waifu. He definitely would have enjoyed the empty bliss of failed transcendence in Evangelion.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 11 11:08:18 2017 No.8960079 >>8960078 you're so fucking pathetic, Nature made a mistake by giving you birth

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 11 11:12:00 2017 No.8960088 >>8960079 Did anime kill your parents or something?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 11 11:13:52 2017 No.8960097 File: 33 KB, 940x627, 6948294-3x2-940x627.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8960075 >rap

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 11 11:13:52 2017 No.8960098 >>8960079 At least I don't have several STDs from fucking Preußische hookers and eat 6 kgs of fruit every day, calm down Friedrich.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 11 11:35:48 2017 No.8960147 >>8959998 would he enjoy Band of Horses?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 11 11:36:33 2017 No.8960149 >>8960011 I think he would had enjoyed Alvin Row

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 11 11:45:18 2017 No.8960173 File: 235 KB, 656x964, Nietzsche_Olde_02.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8960097 Yes that is what i said. Congrats on being able to read.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 11 11:48:10 2017 No.8960184 >>8959998 >what contemporary art would he enjoy? He wouldn't.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 11 11:48:16 2017 No.8960185 >>8959998 He would be a robot, not even kidding about this one.

Anonymous Wed Jan 11 11:50:01 2017 No.8960189

He'd basically have Icycalm's aesthetics (Vidya is the new Gesamtkunstwerk) except he'd be better at telling the difference between "artfag" (nihilistic) art and Dionysian art (arts with too strong Apollonian leanings repulse Icy).

>what would a music have to be like that would no longer be of romantic origin, like German music – but Dionysian?
Popular music seems to fill this role and when you take Icy's aesthetics on it they fall short of Nietzsche, Nietzsche would have realised jazz and progressive rock achieved everything Icy likes about metal, only much better.
http://orgyofthewill.net/

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 11 11:55:21 2017 No.8960208 >>8960189 what the fuck is Gesamtkunstverk

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 11 11:56:11 2017 No.8960212 >>8960208 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gesamtkunstwerk

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 11 11:57:23 2017 No.8960216 >>8960212 wut

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 11 11:57:25 2017 No.8960217 >>8960189 >arts with too strong Apollonian leanings >implying the message or inspiration is important, not the execution and style how to spot a pseud with no taste or artistic empathy

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 11 12:12:21 2017 No.8960267 File: 37 KB, 607x608, Ain't nothin' but a thot.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Nietzsche would have listened to vaporwave.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 11 12:18:25 2017 No.8960283 File: 575 KB, 2422x1672, cQTj4lX.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] remove madvillainy and add either death grips or any blackgaze album, probably sunbather

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 11 12:18:36 2017 No.8960285 >>8960173 I'm not only able to read, I also have shown to be able to quote! Hip Hop is a laughable genre of music

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 11 12:19:28 2017 No.8960290 Nietzsche would have liked what i liked. /thread

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 11 12:21:06 2017 No.8960297 File: 44 KB, 600x600, Cy3ZfN6VQAERYSA.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8960283 imbecile pic related would be his favorite album

Anonymous Wed Jan 11 12:23:36 2017 No.8960305

Wouldnt Nietzsche be affiliated with some university and write op-ed pieces for journals, newspapers and magazines?

A less drug fueled and energetic Hunter esque Thompson?

Literary critique, and plays? Connoisseur of craft beers? I feel he might have been interested in trains. Perhaps he would have attempted some lucrative investments.

He would watch the fru...food network.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 11 12:32:09 2017 No.8960333 >>8960305 I forgot to say, major patron of BLACKED

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 11 12:32:28 2017 No.8960334 >>8959998 He would enjoy watching MDE Wolrd Peace and Nolan films. His favorite anime would be Inuyasha. His favorite game would be Dark Souls 2.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 11 12:34:30 2017 No.8960341 >>8959998 >animal collective >david lynch No I don't think he would be a faggot

Anonymous Wed Jan 11 12:35:19 2017 No.8960342

>>8960028
pop culture is not something inherit to any cultural system. there doesn't have to be something analogical to our pop in culture of xix century. pop culture as we know it is a child of second half of twentieth century. but if I would have to chose something, it'd be novels, like dostoyevsky's (which, btw., nietzsche loved, so maybe he would engage in pop, if he would live today).

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 11 12:39:58 2017 No.8960364 >>8960184 >le nietzsche was a proto-nazi meme stop

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 11 12:42:01 2017 No.8960370 >tfw ywn sing the vocal harmonies of brothersport with freddy

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 11 12:47:35 2017 No.8960387 The real question is: what kind of porn would he watch? I'm curious of your opinions on this proposition: Nietzsche would love femdom. Pegging variation.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 11 12:48:18 2017 No.8960390 >>8960387 german goo girls

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 11 12:49:59 2017 No.8960400 Industrial music. Was basically inspired by Nietzsche's philosophy.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 11 12:52:30 2017 No.8960410 >>8960390 I was missing on that one, thanks

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 11 12:54:23 2017 No.8960417 >>8960387 he loved the greeks. he was homo. gay porn all the way for NEETche

Anonymous Wed Jan 11 12:55:30 2017 No.8960422

>>8960342
>like dostoyevsky's (which, btw., nietzsche loved, so maybe he would engage in pop, if he would live today).
Because dostoyevskys novels were popularly known, means they were pop culture: Nietchze liked them, which means Nietchze could like pop culture: which means Nietchze would like Brittany Spears and Jersey Shore.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 11 12:56:33 2017 No.8960425 >>8960364 >>le nietzsche was a proto-nazi meme >le not lking contemporary art makes you a nazi meme

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 11 12:57:49 2017 No.8960427 Anime, Sci-Fi, Fantasy, Horror. Because he was a cretin.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 11 12:59:27 2017 No.8960436 >>8960425 >not liking contemporary art Pleb central

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 11 13:01:22 2017 No.8960446 File: 10 KB, 312x161, SAM HYDEimages.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8959998 >what contemporary art would he enjoy? easy - the joyfull nihilism os MDE

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 11 13:05:20 2017 No.8960460 >>8959998 What NFL, NBA, MLB and NHL would he support? I'm thinking: Browns 76ers Padres Blue Jackets pure nihilism

Anonymous Wed Jan 11 13:07:02 2017 No.8960466

>>8960422
they were, in my opinion, pop, not because they were popularly known. there was a lot of things in xix century, that were known widely, but i wouldn't consider them pop. a lot of painters could be considered that. f.e. podkowiński. he wasn't pop not because of inaccessibility in interpretation, but in his paintings societal presence. dostoyevsky's and many other writer's novel's chapters were published week by week. a lot like today's tv series, that are started to be considered art just now. a lot of people, and i'm talking about philosophers and writers, wouldn't consider novel art even in xx century.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 11 13:08:34 2017 No.8960471 YuGiOh and twitter

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 11 13:09:16 2017 No.8960474 >>8960422 btw. it's Nietzsche, not Nietchze

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 11 13:15:19 2017 No.8960493 >>8960446 Top kino

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 11 13:17:29 2017 No.8960501 >>8960436 >>>le nietzsche was a proto-nazi meme >>le not lking contemporary art makes you a nazi meme (You), proposed an argument, naught

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 11 13:19:03 2017 No.8960508 >>8960501 you don't have to present an argument here. stating that not liking contemporary art doesn't make you a nazi is enough.

Anonymous Wed Jan 11 13:19:33 2017 No.8960513

>>8960474
>btw. it's Nietzsche, not Nietchze
I am sure Nietchzehzhe wouldnt mind my will to power, whereby I do not waste my time attempting to accurately remember the spelling of his name, or by typing too quickly to be sure I have correctly spelled it

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 11 13:20:36 2017 No.8960518 >>8960466 So pop art = societal presence?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 11 13:20:48 2017 No.8960519 >>8960460 He wouldn't be watching ameriFAT sports.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 11 13:20:58 2017 No.8960520 >>8960513 no, your just retarded

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 11 13:24:07 2017 No.8960525 >>8960508 So your stance is that: not liking contemporary art does in fact make one a nazi? Might you define, contemporary art? (as, every piece of art that is created contemporary?)

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 11 13:24:13 2017 No.8960526 >>8960519 How will americans ever recover

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 11 13:25:10 2017 No.8960530 >>8960520 There are some words I refuse to learn the spelling of because they are spelled so stupidly

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 11 13:25:10 2017 No.8960531 >>8960520 its you're not your you fucking retard.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 11 13:25:25 2017 No.8960534 >>8960525 Not liking AnCo makes you a nazi and a faggot at the same time How will (You) ever recover?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 11 13:25:39 2017 No.8960535 >>8960519 >>8960526 >the fedora man's philosopher doesn't like sports what a shock

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 11 13:26:22 2017 No.8960539 >>8960070 I think Eraserhead is a very fulfilling, complete and person work of his t. other

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 11 13:26:44 2017 No.8960541 File: 93 KB, 1277x717, 1471894910652.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8960493 >Top kino it is indeed, notice the strong influence of german expressionist kino in this one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Brdx7kmxx2I

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 11 13:27:13 2017 No.8960542 >>8960531 it's it's not its you fucking retard

Anonymous Wed Jan 11 13:29:08 2017 No.8960551

>>8960518
no. it's one of it's components. something close to full definition would be, in my opinion, this: pop is art that is easily accessible, present in society's consciousness and distributed in a particular way, which's focus is maximizing auditory's engagement (f.e. xix novel maximizes engagement in it's publication's periodicity).

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 11 13:30:17 2017 No.8960554 >>8960531 I thought no one would fell for it. bravo

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 11 13:32:00 2017 No.8960560 >>8960525 do you have reading comprehension problems? I will repeat what I said in previous post: not liking contemporary art doesn't make you a nazi.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 11 13:32:17 2017 No.8960562 >>8960542 >>8960554 haha, thou fell for it

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 11 13:34:13 2017 No.8960566 >>8960562 so I fell for him ironically noticing my ironic mistake? damn

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 11 13:34:30 2017 No.8960569 He'd be a metalhead for sure

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 11 13:34:33 2017 No.8960570 >>8960535 He'd watch football, probably a Bayern Munchen supporter (and a Trump supporter)

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 11 13:42:17 2017 No.8960588 >>8959998 >>8960011 >>8960026 >>8960041 >>8960075 >>8960078 >>8960147 >>8960149 >>8960189 >>8960267 >>8960283 >>8960305 >>8960333 >>8960334 >>8960400 >>8960427 >>8960446 >>8960460 >>8960570 so much projecting in this thread

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 11 13:43:22 2017 No.8960592 >>8960588 >projecting >on a joke thread take it easy senpai

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 11 13:46:52 2017 No.8960598 >>8960592 it's a serious question. this matter must be solved. it's one of the ways to see if we follow Nietzsche's teachings correctly.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 11 13:48:03 2017 No.8960600 >>8960598 If it's a serious question, then it can't be answered. Nietzsche's dead.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 11 13:50:29 2017 No.8960603 >>8960600 I refuse to believe this. To reach for the impossible is a noble thing itself. So this thread is a noble thread.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 11 13:57:44 2017 No.8960625 >>8960028 >he didnt' write about pop culture then, He did. He had several references to the circus even

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 11 14:01:48 2017 No.8960640 >>8960422 You're being facetious but he uses things like a popular book on dieting as references in his work (note note you fellows need to actually read what you're talking about). He would be like an uber Zizek today.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 11 14:05:53 2017 No.8960654 >>8960534 >AnCo First you will have to tell me what that is, for me to reply tbqhatcyk (to be quite honest about things considerably you know)

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 11 14:05:59 2017 No.8960655 >>8960640 >reading what you're talking about in 2017 read (ironic!) some Bayard, please

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 11 14:07:33 2017 No.8960659 >>8960554 >I thought no one would fell for it. It's fall not fell u fucking retard

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 11 14:10:35 2017 No.8960668 >>8960659 you know it's not funny anymore, right?

Anonymous Wed Jan 11 14:14:48 2017 No.8960680

>>8960560
Not entirely. It is just that the reason I originally responded to the poster I thought I was responding to, was because they implied if one does not like contemporary art they are a nazi. Are you that poster?

>>8960184

>what contemporary art would he enjoy?
He wouldn't.
>le nietzsche was a proto-nazi meme
stop

lets see how you comprehend that reading

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 11 14:15:51 2017 No.8960685 >>8960668 >you know it's not funny anymore, right? It's you know it never was retard

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 11 14:17:26 2017 No.8960692 >>8960685 ok, that made me chuckle, although im ashamed of that

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 11 14:30:39 2017 No.8960724 >>8960342 You're wrong. Clearly you've never heard of the little three-volume romances. Written by women. They had the same reputation as YA, and they were wildly popular.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 11 14:43:05 2017 No.8960762 >>8960724 dostoyevsky wasn't considered much higher than those. so you clever little remark doesn't make me wrong. also >clearly you've never heard of x it's not a very civilised thing to say, you know?

Anonymous Wed Jan 11 14:48:31 2017 No.8960770

>>8959998
Nothing. Nietsche would consider himself above pop culture.
>>8960184
This. Not because he's a Nazi, but because he was intelligent. He'd recognize pop culture as bread and circus for the herd.
>>8960422
Pop culture didn't exist in the 19th century, retard.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 11 15:11:41 2017 No.8960838 >>8960770 >Pop culture didn't exist in the 19th century, retard. I was responding to someone who claimed it did, retard. AND FOR THOSE WHO WERE TALKING ABOUT AND STRUGGLING ABOUT WITH THE DEFINITIONS OF POP CULTURE. POP(ULAR) CULTURE

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 11 15:13:44 2017 No.8960851 >>8960838 >POP(ULAR) CULTURE Which is understandably challenging: what is the cut off? 51%? of the population would have to like something in order for it to be considered popculture?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 11 15:13:53 2017 No.8960852 >>8960762 He absolutely was. >it's not a very civilised thing to say, you know? I didn't know that, but thank you.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 11 15:16:33 2017 No.8960861 >>8960070 >rapid fans >/lit/

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 11 15:19:43 2017 No.8960866 File: 71 KB, 461x346, VEMUh.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >implying nietzsche isn't alive today

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 11 15:27:22 2017 No.8960885 he would listen to LITURGY and KEL VALHAAL

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 11 15:29:20 2017 No.8960893 >>8960885 >muh transcendental black metal

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 11 15:34:33 2017 No.8960913 >>8959998 He'd be a fanboy of Varg Vikernes.

Anonymous Wed Jan 11 16:42:10 2017 No.8961200
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>>8960913
Friedrich Nietzsche a fanboy of Varg Vikernes?
kek
>Friedrich "Anti-Nationalist" Nietzsche
>Friedrich "The German Does Not Exist" Nietzsche
>Friedrich "French Culture and Thought is Supreme" Nietzsche
>Friedrich "Wherever Germany Spreads It Ruins Culture" Nietzsche
>Friedrich "Experience Cosmically" Nietzsche
>Friedrich "Polish Noble" Nietzsche
>Friedrich "Germany's Greatness is Due to Polish Blood" Nietzsche
>Friedrich "Despiser of the German Par Excellence" Nietzsche

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 11 19:05:11 2017 No.8961826 >>8960460 Hed back the Flyers or Hurricanes. Would probably spazz at the rise of the laffs and MATTHEWS

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 11 19:35:05 2017 No.8961981 >>8960654 The best band of the last 17 years

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 11 21:18:04 2017 No.8962450 >>8959998 If Nietzsche was alive today I would be in this thread.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 11 22:14:14 2017 No.8962764 >>8959998 He would've liked Haneke, Tarr and maybe Von Trier

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 12 02:10:11 2017 No.8963640 >>8962764 >maybe Von Trier No, not von Trier. Or maybe I'm just hoping, he was an edgy contrarian after all

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 12 03:38:03 2017 No.8963874 >>8959998 minimalist electronic music, like Ryoji Ikeda or Boards of Canada

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 12 09:26:40 2017 No.8964368 >>8963874 nah

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 12 12:58:46 2017 No.8965023 He'd be a guest on the Joe Rogan podcast What up freak bitches!

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 12 13:11:36 2017 No.8965066 >>8959998 as someone who is literally nietzsche i don't watch, listen or read much of anything

Anonymous Thu Jan 12 14:01:41 2017 No.8965210

>>8960028
wagner was basically the equivalent of a pop phenomenon. part of what N disliked about Wagner was that he essentially sold out, he catered to nationalist sentiments and wrote music that was sensational and over-stimulating so that the plebs cultural philistines could enjoy it and feel feels and think that they were experiencing something deep and moving.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 12 14:03:46 2017 No.8965220 >>8963874 >BoC >minimalist

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