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8933218 No.8933218 [Reply] [Original]

Surprise us with you incredibly rare pictures of Thomas Pynchon /lit/. I have one of his hand and a pig piñata.

>> No.8933226

>>8933218
more interesting would be to study all his posts he made here years ago

but whatever, obsess about his face, as if its more interesting than the weird shit him and farina were involved with at cornell

>> No.8933236

>>8933226
I went down that rabbit hole last week. One of the wierdest feelings in my life. I felt like Oedipa Maas . The e-mail that was a reference to an old movie, which lead people to a weird twitter account and the Byron epitaph. Creepy.

>> No.8933239

>>8933226
what did he post and how do you know it was him

>> No.8933241
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>>8933218
>Rare Pinecone

>> No.8933243
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>>8933218

>> No.8933254

>>8933239
I can't remember specifics, but no one else could write posts so full of goofs, gags, jokes and rambunctious behavior. Every post was like one of those novelty snake cans, you open the thread & POP you get a face fulla snakes and you fall back cackling. The mad mind, the crack genius, to do it! and then you think hmmm whats he gonna do next, this trickster, and you pick the book back up and BZZZZZZZZZZ you get a shock and Hahahahahah you've been pranked again by the old pynchmeister, that card. "Did that Pynch?" he says, laughing yukyukyukyuk. Watch him as he shoves a pair of plastic buck teeth right up into his mouth and displays em for you- left, right, center- "you like dese? Do i look handsome???" Pulls out a mirror. "Ah!" Hand to naughty mouth. And you're on your ass again laughing as he snaps his suspenders, exits stage right, and appears again hauling a huge golden gong.

It must have been him

>> No.8933276

>>8933239
We don't really know if it was him, but his level of inteligence and ability to write was impressive. He also made a bunch of references that lead to him. Check it out for yourself. There are more links to his posts in there. warosu.org/lit/thread/S3039755

>> No.8933285

>>8933239
I found this. Written by a guy named David E.H. Jones, who is interesting on his own...count the number of references to Pynchon.

https://books.google.ca/books?id=iwgENmqHm68C&pg=PA2&lpg=PA2&dq=new+scientist+23+august+1984&source=bl&ots=fA8YMsQxQd&sig=lzeuLLlWTaT-6WpUYCHBbaEVH9o&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjn7_HThqzRAhVG4IMKHcYyC6AQ6AEIGDAB#v=onepage&q=ariadne&f=false

its page 80 if the link doesn't work

>> No.8933288

Where is that purple tinted pic of pynchon that occasionally gets posted from?

>> No.8933293
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>>8933218
Just to the right of the news paper stand

>> No.8933301
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8933301

>>8933288
this?

>> No.8933311

>>8933285
What if David Foster Wallace is a total idiot and Pynchon wasn't spending 17 years smoking bongs but ghost writing for science magazines?

Now go ahead and read about the Chemical Research Laboratory in Teddington that he's referencing.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Physical_Laboratory_%28United_Kingdom%29

Notice it's all stuff that is dealt with in some way in GR, Inherent Vice and Mason & Dixon?

Oh, yeah, and did I mention David E.H. Jones makes "fake" perpetual motion machines?

>> No.8933319

>>8933301
Yes

>> No.8933324

>>8933276
Jesus christ the rabbit hole man

>> No.8933328

Didn't Pynchon post on /tv/?

>> No.8933329

>>8933293
what?

>> No.8933334

>>8933328
no idea, I feel like a manchild whenever I browse that idiotic board

>> No.8933338

>>8933324
Crazy, right? I was up all night going down. You start to get paranoid after a while. I wish we knew more.

>> No.8933347

>>8933328
I keep hearing about that but I've never seen the archive of it, anyone have it?

>> No.8933354
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8933354

Also this is apparently his son, it was on a thread about a week ago

>> No.8933356

>>8933338
Do you think another book will materialize. I can't help the sinking feeling that The Japanese Insurance Adjuster is an elaborate ruse by Pynchon himself or a third party

>> No.8933373

>>8933356
he's a character from Vineland and I'm hoping that he's just sitting on a that magnum opus about the civil war that will be released posthumously

>>8933338
wanna see my folder of all the references and screenshots of his posts?

>> No.8933381

Who got those letters he wrote?

>> No.8933390

In one post he mentions the difference between seriousness and solemnity (I think a reference to all the silliness in his book when dealing with serious subjects) and then he goes on to say..."I wont name the professor, cause then you'll know where I went to school etc"

Well, there's a guy A.R. Ammons, who taught at Cornell and he writes poetry with the same mix of high and low language, folk speech and science jargon.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A._R._Ammons

>> No.8933405

>>8933373
I haven't read Vineland yet but I assume it's not as bad as reputation would lead me to believe. His commitment to not letting himself be snared by the media's trappings is admirable but I wish we'd get an interview before died as unlikely as that is. In a way it would kill part of the myth he's built. Hopefully if there are any projects in the pipeline he finishes them before he dies

>> No.8933407

>>8933285
Does no one think this is crazy as fuck and reads like it was written by Pynchon?

> reference to National Laboratory
> bananas
> Daedalus (James Joyce)
> DREADCO (seems like something straight out of GR)
> wants to put humour in chemistry
> Serbo-Croat (Against the Day)

I mean, come on, either David E.H. Jones helped Pynchon with research or Pynchon was ghostwriting that whole Ariadne column for years.

>> No.8933415

>>8933405
the middle section gets stupid as fuck but the beginning and end are really solid

I think Vineland is a continuation of Ep. 4 of GR, in that he really doesn't think literature is going to save the day

>> No.8933430

>>8933373

>wanna see my folder of all the references and screenshots of his posts?

Yes please.

>> No.8933446

>>8933301
looks like Stephen King desu

>> No.8933447

>>8933373
That would be lovely.

>> No.8933451

>>8933430
only if you give a fuck about that newscientist article

>> No.8933473

>>8933356
I don't know. I find it creeply exciting that a writter who is so obsessed with conspiracy theories and mistery, is involved in something like this. The Japanese Insurance Adjuster with a blueberry fetish seems a bit to weird even for pynchon, I don't know if that part is real, but I want his posts to be, really bad.

>> No.8933486

do you guys like IV? Ive read it twice now and I find it barely interesting

>> No.8933490
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>>8933473
Why? It makes perfect sense if he was writing Bleeding Edge, to come and shitpost on 4chan to get a sense of internet culture and where its headed.

Now look up the Harry Ransom center (it's okay, I already did). Here's what they got

http://www.hrc.utexas.edu/collections/guide/american/

> A corrected typescript of V., the first novel of Thomas Pynchon (b. 1937), containing one hundred excised pages, is accompanied by eight rare personal letters from a young Pynchon to two close friends in the 1960s. The archive also contains early notes, outlines, and drafts for an unproduced musical, "Minstrel Island," on which Pynchon and J. Kirkpatrick Sale collaborated in the spring of 1958.

http://norman.hrc.utexas.edu/fasearch/pdf/00442.pdf

So call them and pretend like you're an autistic STEMlord curious about some random fact and before you know, you're faxing with the Ruggles himself!

>> No.8933501

>>8933486
It's amazing. I've learned so much about the 60s/70s because of it. My research folder on IV is almost as big as all the clues I've compiled from the pseudo-Pynchon posts on /lit/.

Stop thinking Pynchon puts in random trivia for no reason. When you understand the gold coins with Nixons face on it...whew, lad. Inherent Vice might be my favorite of his. Not a single line wasted.

>> No.8933502

>>8933486
I read it in the summer. It's either a good beach reading for when you've read most of his other work or a good intro. I think the "conspiracy" is easy to decipher but nontheless smart. Why did you read it twice if you found it barely interesting?

>> No.8933504

>>8933451

I do.

>> No.8933510

>>8933502
i am afraid im stupid and read it again to be sure.

>> No.8933511

>>8925430

>> No.8933512

>>8933501
Dear Anon,
Would you be so kind as to provide us with some way to read this two precious folders you keep mentioning?

>> No.8933527

>>8933501
what have you learned?

>> No.8933553
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8933553

>>8933527
> implying I'm going to give away the secret that will almost definitely transform me from a NEET to the leading Pynchon scholar worldwide, changing the entire scene of Pynchon studies as we know it

read Tasso's Jerusalem Delivered for me and then maybe I'll deliver.

>> No.8933557

>>8933553
ok thanks

>> No.8933577

>>8933557
it's just a disorganized mess of saved wikipedia pages

I don't think it would make any sense, but I could upload all the posts I think were related to him/not-Bill Murray.

>> No.8933605

>>8933577
So could you explain why you love IV so much?

>> No.8933611

>>8933577
>>8933501
Please post. Enlighten us proles.

>> No.8933649

>>8933605
>>8933611
because he knows so much about what was really going on in the 60s

ask yourself, why the fuck richard farina was signing his book with the word "zoom!"

>> No.8933665

>>8933649
Post folder please

>>8933490
Would the HRC really have any contact info that goes beyond than his wife/agent as listed in the screencap though?

>> No.8933675

I got 37 posts that could be his, even though as I look back on some it doesn't really fit Pynchon although the posting style is the same.

For example, he says he's published 3 books, when he had more than that. And he mentions having half-siblings that are really young.

>> No.8933685

>>8933373
Yes

>> No.8933690

>>8933665
Probably. I remember reading somewhere unrelated of how some science researchers managed to contact Pynchon via fax for a question about a reference in one of his books. And then I remembered these posts.

>> No.8933695

>>8933665
It probably just goes to his agent/wife but maybe it's more reliable than a random postcard to the agency.

>> No.8933704

Folders
If you got 'em, post 'em

>> No.8933722

heres the screenshots of the posts I think are by the same guy

https://www.mediafire.com/folder/8qwp9mw81tb25/Documents

>> No.8933731

>>8933722
i think i fucked it up

>> No.8933745

I remember a thread where the 'pynchon' came back and generally made an ass of himself, admitting he some other writer.

That said, to the guy who's digging deep into this, please keep it up, it's facinating and I wish I had the time and patience to look into it with you.

>> No.8933757

>>8933373
Damn how'd you know his new novel was about the civil war? I heard it was from a reliable source who heard from another reliable source who heard from a further reliable source (all academics). I posted on lit that his next and probably final novel will be about the civil war but no one ever paid attention.

>> No.8933772

>>8933757
you told me

you better not be lying

>> No.8933780

alright, I rar'd it, so you dont have to save each individually

http://www.mediafire.com/file/a4cfu86401b5jhg/pineconeclues1.tar.gz

>> No.8933794

>>8933772
I'm not lying. I hope the academic that relayed the info to me isn't lying.

>> No.8933808

these threads are very pynchonesque or something. there needs to be a word for it.

>> No.8933811

I wrote Pynchon a letter at his wife's address about two years ago.

I started it, "Dear Mr. Pinecone", I mentioned the /lit/ thread and asked him about it, explained that I am a young writer suffering from all the classic young writer problems.

And, most importantly, I put in the envelope with the letter a 5x7 picture of a life sized plaster T-Rex with an American flag behind it and the back of the photo I drew the Trystero symbol.

(I also drew one on the back of the stamp but you couldn't see it)

It never got returned to me, so I'm guessing someone got it, no idea if it was him though.

>> No.8933832

>>8933811
That address he posted was slightly fucked up. I called him on it and he actually apologized saying it was his mistake.

So unless you actually checked the address yourself it probably didn't make it anywhere. Sorry, bro. Try again.

>> No.8933835

>>8933285
Which article is it, anon? Or which page? I am trying to navigate that page on mobile and failing miserably

>> No.8933844

>>8933832
I did look up the real address before sending it and realized the one he posted was incorrect.

I sent it to the current address of the Melanie Jackson Agency.

I'm actually kind of embarrassed by it now.

>> No.8933861

>>8933501
>>8933553
Come on mate you're on a mongolian comic forum noones gonna steal your secrets

>> No.8933867
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When I'm finished compiling and organizing all the references I was thinking of making it into a youtube video because it would be easier to follow than an essay but I dunno.

I have a binder full of autistic mind-maps of this shit. I stopped because I now have to read a bunch of primary sources like Tasso and Byron and Suetonius. Basically I would have to clear my schedule for a month and do nothing but dive into this.

>>8933835
>>8933835
page 80

>>8933844
haha I like the trex idea, whatever, he probably gets tons of freaks and schizos trying to mail him anthrax or some shit

>> No.8933871

>>8933861
yeah but I want tenure

>> No.8933890

>>8933649
Nice try, but your technique is a little too cookie cutter. These are how mos Pynchonposts are, They mention a somewhat obscure writer in an offhand way and how they had some wacky connection with the culture or maybe drugs.

case in point:
>>8933553
>Torquato Tasso

Do you honestly think Pynchon, the mad man who gave us Gravity's Rainbow and V, would restrain himself and use the same formatting, same references, and call him self by his meme names here on /lit/? as previous so called Pynchon posts? Pynch would have blown our minds right about now with some more shit he knew instead of regurgitating the same shit.

>> No.8933891

>>8933867
Yeah, I hope that if anything it was amusing. To him.

>> No.8933893
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here's a screencap of the newscientist article if people are interested, someone merge the two, I'm shit with gimp

1/2

>> No.8933896

>>8933890
That thread is how Pinecone became his meme name on /lit/. This is prime /lit/ history.

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>>8933890
what? It was him to started the "Pinecone" meme. The dude from brooklyn or whatever, (the one who came back) wasn't the same guy. I'm 100% sure of it.

2/2

>> No.8933903

>>8933871
Oh don't be a twat.

>> No.8933913

>>8933903
youre right, tenure is degeneracy

>> No.8933938

>>8933913
And to flaunt your supposed folder and then not share it

>> No.8933940

>>8933867
OP here. I've done quite a bit of autisic research on the topic as well. If you want I could help you. I'm currently NEET, so I have the time and I am desperate to get to the bottom of this.

>> No.8933959

>>8933938
yeah but the real gold is handwritten, the folder is just a bunch of wiki pages

its shit like
> Paul Baran
> Tudor Conquest of Ireland
> Lemma (mathematics)
> Johan van Oldenbarnevelt

it doesn't make sense without my notes because it's crazy tangents

>> No.8933962

>>8933940
>>8933867
Post what you got lads. I want to help. We can make this a collaborative effort.

>> No.8933967

>>8933959
How many notes do you have? Is it possible to scan them?

>> No.8933969

>"Proverbs for Paranoids 3: If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don't have to worry about answers." - Gravity's Rainbow, The Pynchmeister

Come one now, are you guys sure you aren't letting yourselves be sucking into an inverted vortex of Decoy Inquiries, Planted Evidence and, oh boy, General Fuckery? The Man Himself would never leave His tail un-tucked, now, would He? .. .right?

>> No.8933975

>>8933319
It's from a CNN story about Ruggles from around the time Mason & Dixon was published, it's on YouTube

>> No.8933978

>>8933967
>>8933962
>>8933940
you guys got discord accounts?

>> No.8933984

>>8933978
Nope. Is there something else better suited we could use? Something tailored towards collaborative work on documents?

>> No.8933985

https://discord.gg/PDtcz

git gud

>> No.8933988

>>8933984
well, join and then we'll figure something out

i just dont want no plebs, small group of autistic patricians only

>> No.8934016

>using discrap that rapes your privacy

>> No.8934018

join the discord or find a better solution

>> No.8934026

>>8934018
fucking /lit/

>> No.8934033

>>8934016
>>8934026
implying 4chan doesnt rape your privacy

decide something now because i wanna go read

>> No.8934041

Anyone else read 'Been Down So Long It Looks Like Up to Me' just to see his friendly depiction of TP?

>> No.8934044

>>8934041
buy me david hajdu's book on farina and tell me what pinecone sez in it

>> No.8934200

>>8933967
>>8933962
>>8933940
>>8934033

Google Doc anyone?

>> No.8934230

>>8933969
That was in the crying of lot 49.

>> No.8934248

>>8934230
no it wasn't

>> No.8934285

>>8933832
When was this? I don't recall reading anyone call him out

>> No.8934289

>>8934230
Found the defector.

>> No.8934335

Thomas Pynchon is a CIA tool. Against his will, mind you. His writing contains talent. This is not arguable. The man can use his language in way Mia Khalifa can suck a dick.

He is a remnant of MKULTRA. A lost, lonely, and confused man writing of the conspiracies, either true or false, that were imbedded into his psyche during the mental torture he was subjected to by CIA psychologists.

He's nonsensical because he has no sense. He's of no threat to anyone, so he's in the care of an agent.

>> No.8934521

>I'm assuming you're British, and the most I'll say about my own career as a writer is that I was pretty infamous in the UK once for writing something that was serious but not solemn about a topic that a lot of people in the UK had unwarrantedly passionate emotions about (from the POV of an outsider like myself). So you should see the hate mail I got from bluehaired pensioners in Swindon who would never have heard of my existence if the tabloids hadn't decided to make some American nobody writer into the villain-of-the-week.

crack this one

>> No.8934581

>>8934521
What is this?

>> No.8934582

>>8934041
I've read about 50 pages, when's TP in it?

>> No.8934763

>>8934041

Yes, read it. Which one was supposed to be Pynchon?

>> No.8934791

>>8933334
was /tv/ ever not retarded? I found a list of all sorts of arthouse cinema and stuff that supposedly came from them. Did they just slide harder than the rest of 4chan?

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>> No.8935029

>>8934791
/tv/ never slid anywhere, it's one of the most genius boards on the channel. /mu/, on the other hand, has fallen so far deep into self-parody and regurgitation that it's beyond saving

>> No.8935076

>>8934763
Heffalump, isn't it? The one with the huge buck teeth? I can't remember if he's the one in love with the lesbian.

The weird zombie cabal seems to have some bearing on the zombie musicians' house in Inherent Vice.

>> No.8935120

>>8933276
>warosu.org/lit/thread/S3039755
was lit really this intellectual at one point?

>> No.8935208

>>8934041
Lmao I read it last week.
Goofs gags and rambunctious behavior guy was in there all right.

>> No.8935219

>>8935208
>>8935076
Idk if it was Heffalump he's the quadroon dude that gets shot in Cuba.
I think it's the guy that comes into his room in the morning snapping his fingers based on the intro Pynchon wrote.

>> No.8935239

>>8933239
some shit about shakespeares real identity not all that long ago

>> No.8935242

>>8933276
the greatest rabbit hole I have ever seen period.

>> No.8935274

>>8933276
This is painful to read. It's like being a 75 year-old man with lung cancer watching an old video of himself finishing a marathon.

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i need to go to sleep. will return to this in the morning. I probably missed it, but has anyone written him fan mail yet? I've done that before w authors etc, it usually pays off.

>> No.8935674

>>8935029
Redpill me on /mu/ senpai

>> No.8935811
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8935811

>>8933893
>>8933900

Done.

>> No.8935884

>>8934521
>Meaning no harm, I, too, wrote a few sentences in my first novel that angered the mighty in my country. At that time, they only confiscated my book from bookstores and threatened my liberty, but although they did not threaten my life, perhaps I have at least some idea of what it is like. I pray that tolerance and respect for life prevail. I keep thinking of you. Thomas Pynchon, United States.

Open letter to Salman Rushdie.

>> No.8935902

>>8933243
HOLY FUCK IT IS HIM

>> No.8935905

>>8933254
10/10 anon

>> No.8935975

>>8934521
Could he been Gravity's Rainbow triggered the Brits because of all the bananas and goofs n' gags etc

But, yeah, I don't really get it. Would Pynchon really have gotten hate mail?

>> No.8936054

>>8935975
Serious but not solemn

Swindon

>> No.8936065

>>8935811
This is related to something else, deeply. Now, can you think of a connection between Pinecone and Mr D E Shaw?

>> No.8936109

Just wanted to say, because I haven't seen anyone mention it yet, that the whole not-Bill Murray thing is probably a reference to the somewhat famous internet story where Bill Murray appears randomly and steals someone's fry and says, "No one will ever believe you." I don't remember where I first heard it, but you can google "Bill Murray no one will ever believe you" if you want.

>> No.8936128

>>8936109
its been mentioned many, many times

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8936141

I don't why, but this thread is giving me the spooks.

>> No.8936149

>>8936128
I figured

>> No.8936150

>>8936141
The more you know the more spooky it gets.

>> No.8936285

I've tried to like Inherent Vice, but I just don't see what the fuss is about. I just don't find anything neat in the actual prose and how he tells things.

Maybe it's a language barrier..I'm Finnish and read it in English, but it's not like my English is exactly shit.

If anyone loved the book, could they elaborate why? I'd like to like it too.

>> No.8936331

>>8933285
>>8933893
>>8933900
>>8935811
>Hannibal

>> No.8937147

bump

>> No.8937170

To the people who are experienced when it comes to Pynchon how likely is it that there's another book on the way and will we see it by the end of the decade or will it be released posthumously

>> No.8937206

Can someone explain to me why is the opening "A screaming comes across the sky" considered so good? What

>> No.8937225

>>8936285
Have you read any other Pynchon? He's prose is a bit clunky and confusing (which imo, works well with his themes and the stories) IV is admittedly not a good starting point for him. I'd say that Lot 49 is probably the best.

Pynchon isn't admired for his prose really, he's admired for his odd, sprawling plots and weird-ass characters. Even if you are fairly used to English, I'd set Pynchon aside and read some other books and come back to him.

>> No.8937228

>>8937206
Because it shows that the main dude's name isn't actually "screaming" it's just that the screaming happens to be coming across the sky

>> No.8937236

>>8937228
...

what?

>> No.8937261

>>8937228
I never thought o' it like thart...

>> No.8937285

>>8937206
only makes sense if youve read the ending

>> No.8937313

>>8935120
I know, its crazy how much the taste changed right? But then again they considered the Hitchhickers Guide to The Galaxy one of the best books of all time when this happened

>> No.8937321

>>8935568
Yes. No reply

>> No.8937342

>>8937225
I've only read IV. I was unimpressed by his prose and I suppose that's why I mostly read books anyways. Not for stories or genres if that makes sense, they can be anything if the prose is good. For counter example I was impressed by Cormac's Blood Meridian prose. I chose these two examples because they're both English authors writing in English.

>> No.8937354

>>8937342
Cormac wrote BM with his scabby cock in one hand and Roget's thesaurus in the other.

>> No.8937369

>>8937354
Holy fuck, that's cool.

>> No.8937402

>>8937354
The masturbation habits of great writers are actually key to a serious critique of their work. I only wish they kept better records.
We know that Mann mangled his member while manuscripting the Magic Mountain, but the more interesting question is whether Omar Khayyam rubbed it while revising the Rubaiyat? Did Tolkien touch one tower when he wrote about two?

>> No.8937419

>>8937354
Quality pasta

>> No.8937441

>>8937402
>>8937354
Do you think they played billiard with their balls when they were writing something truly epic?

Makes you think

>> No.8937457
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Picture of Pynchon macking on a slut.

>> No.8937491

>>8937402
>Did Tolkien touch one tower when he wrote about two?
Yes. In his 1955 biography written by the Korean author Junsa Jang (which you clearly didn't bother to read before posting this, you sad swine) it is clearly stated in pg.169 that the author in question DID masturbate frequently (as any decent writer should) and in fact, he also stimulated his prostate analy via a hand carved mini wood replica of Gandalf's staff.
Fun fact: Smaug's name derives from a variation of the word for the sebaceous secretion in the folds of the skin of the penis, smegma.

>> No.8937500

>>8937313
who is "they"?

>> No.8937517

>>8937500
Look in the "not-bilmurray" thread where they discuss the best pieces of art. They are voting for the best books and I think HGTG is no.5 or something

>> No.8937555

>>8937491
>(which you clearly didn't bother to read before posting this, you sad swine)
>not saying (which you don't have to read because I already read it for you)
It's like you don't know what thread you're in

>> No.8937564

>>8937517
I browsed /lit/ then, and if I saw that, I would think that they were joking, or that they had fond memories of reading it as a toddler.

>> No.8937607

>>8933276
interesting, if it is Pynchon he seems to be implying that Shakespeare was William Stanley.
>>8933285
I wonder now if Pynchon isn't just a pseudonym too.

>> No.8937619

>>8937402
I like it.

>> No.8937630

>>8933276
Sounds like a fanboy showcasing how much he has googled about TP's novels and life.

>> No.8937668

>>8937555
You should still read it. Yes, the 3,000 pages divided into 3 tomes might me a little excessive, but honestly it's one of the best biographies out there. You learn about his raisin making hobby, the freudian love he had for his mother and his obsession with ancient japanese pornography. Don't miss it, sad swinny anon!

>> No.8937702

>>8937206
On the sonic level, it's made from a pleasing repetition of only four consonant sounds: s, r, m, and k (with one use of the nasal n) inside a line of iambic pentameter that is perfectly stressed.

On the literal level, it mirrors the perception of hearing something without seeing what it is. A screaming what? Exactly: you hear the screaming and by the time you look in the sky it's gone. As we find out later, the V2 rocket is so fast that it strikes before its impact can be heard. By the time you hear the screaming, the object is already irreversibly gone. Or the "screaming" could mean the actual cries of the victims--the word choice is ambiguous in a passage where the machinations and consequences of war blend together as a mass evacuation occurs. The sentence opens a passage of immense violence and anxiety blurred by the chaos of war--there is no time to find out what is causing your suffering--keep going and do not stop. The violence comes from the sky. god could be complicit. the enemy is somewhere, firing from a hidden position, but all you can know about them is the suffering that they trace over the sky as it forces you out of your home.

>> No.8937708

>>8937225
>Pynchon isn't admired for his prose really

this is absolutely false. he's considered one of the best stylists of the 20th century. Gravity's Rainbow and Mason & Dixon are both some of the most beautifully written books ever. most critics agree

>> No.8937718

>>8937702
Oh.


Thanks.

>> No.8938817

>tfw you will never read the 8 volume history of King Kong mentioned in GR
at least I think it's GR, it might be something else. I get them all muddled together.

>> No.8938830

>>8938817
For some reason I remember it being in Bleeding Edge.

>> No.8938858

>>8938830
You're probably right.

>> No.8938944

>>8937668
Which translation do you recommend?

>> No.8939174

>>8937225
Don't talk about shit you don't know nothing about.

>> No.8939192
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8939192

What if Pynchon is actually the new owner of 4chan using that Asian guy as a dummy
Sort of like the stuff in this

>> No.8939195

>>8939192
4chan a shit, hes the owner of 8ch

>> No.8939256

>>8937702
>iambic pentameter
iambic tetrameter

>> No.8939262

>>8937402
That you, Nabokov?

>> No.8939288

Pynchon here. Don't rag Rushdie's frequency here now. Rushdie's a swell guy, gang. I'm behind the eight ball here, but the weirdo is on my wavelength, y'know? Just one groove's difference and we're dancin' to different songs, but dancin' nonetheless. Robbins too. Hey, look now it's true we've been nothing but some kind of residual streak of modernity the like of which Joyce would spin at the soft chime of spherical orchestration held above the mantle but enough to feed the earthworms, man. Oakley Hall on the other hand. We wuz kickin' soil along the sandy loams back in 2006 sendin' buckshots at quail on the pitch of Caldwell's Upper. Good times. Good meat. P. out.

>> No.8939543

>>8937313
No. It has always been that the books are a zany mess, but the radio plays are worth checking out. Which is p much objectively true.

>> No.8939595

>>8933285
There was once a guy on here called mathfag who once asked about lateral stability of bicycles out of the blue in a thread about peak oil.

It bothered me somewhat at the time, not least because someone posted back immediately that it was gyroscopic forces, which is too specific an answer (and untrue) so seemed samefaggy.

However, could mathfag have been...?

>> No.8939659

>>8937702
quality post, thanks

>> No.8939802

>>8933254
I liked this

>> No.8939810

>>8937321
how long ago did u try? did u do the thing w the stamp etc etc ?

>> No.8939829

>>8937236
that was a meme using the interpretations of the opening of Moby Dick as a template

>> No.8939835

>>8937500
((()))

>> No.8939840

>>8933254
brilliant

>> No.8939847

>>/lit/thread/S667543#p667573

>> No.8939900

I talked to a professor who met Dr Pinecone a couple times. That's the closest I ever got. Well, I suppose i have the vast majority of my life left. idk how much pinecone has left. from the stories, he is everything you'd imagine.

>> No.8939936

>>8937607
>I wonder now if Pynchon isn't just a pseudonym too
It's not. He's been using that name his entire life.

>> No.8939941

>>8939900
tell us a story
let's hear one

>> No.8940324

>>893993
really, they're onto something here... but it might be better to turn back. in accordance with an ancient covenant, t-m was given two names. one to shield from the light (public eye), and one to commune in the darkness (naming them would bring too much attention).

>> No.8940335

>All these effeminate males who care more about the man than the work

Disgusting.

>> No.8940461

>>8939900
Did he smoke weed with him.

>> No.8940717

>>8933243

>Shaum :)

>> No.8941448

>>8940335
those who do not give into the cult of personality are dried up inside

>> No.8942380

>>8933501
What about the Nixon coins is there to "understand"? I was under the impression it's just like an alternate universe sort-of thing, where Nixon extends his power beyond plausible reach?

>> No.8942428

>>8939256
you're right, my mistake

>> No.8942511

>>8942380
pynchon is a non-fiction writer

>> No.8942599

>>8933446
this

>>8933301
Thomas Pynchon is actually Stephen Kings shitposting alias and you all fell for it

>> No.8942667

>>8933276
Holy shit

>> No.8942751

When was the last not-Bill Murray post or suspected Pynchon post? The stuff in the archive I saw was all 2010-2012 stuff.

Do ever get the feeling that person is still posting here? srs question

>> No.8943674

>>8942751
I've never seen someone post stuff like that, in my few years of being here.

>> No.8944795

bump

>> No.8944804

>>8942751
I try to keep my eyes peeled. His signiature is writing with three dashes --- but it could be hard to tell frauds from the real deal nowadays

>> No.8944806

>>8939900
dude don't leave us hanging

tell us more about what your prof said about him

>> No.8944813

>>8933301
whats on the hat?

>> No.8944853

>>8933311
I always wondered how Pynchon made a living. Was he born rich?

>> No.8944987

>>8933239
Sorry but I don't believe for a second that Pynchon posted here.

Someone smart, who could imitate Pynchon's style, posted to fuck with people. This board is filled with unoriginal, undergrad groupthink so everyone ate it up.

>> No.8945080

>>8944987
Did you read the posts in the archive? shit was weird.

>> No.8945119

>>8945080
Of course I read them. What's not weird is the history of people impersonating other people on this board, or on any other part of the interweb.

>> No.8945131

>>8945080
I think it's just some guy who's a lot smarter than we're used to

>> No.8945188

>>8933218
Whats that Mexican (writers?) name who resembles Pynchons name? He went by something similar to Pynchas.

>> No.8945264

>>8945188
Was it Roberto Pinchas? He, or someone who thought the idea was a fun time, kept ironically posting what was probably a mock-up cover in critique threads; a 2000's-tier-digital-camera perhaps purposefully-amateur snapshot of some anonymous railway track, its twin beams of steel angled horizontal with either a slight clockwise or anti-wise tilt (optional), the ground constituted of vaguely blue and pink gravel (might have been the sky), a thick ROBERTO PINCHAS punched across the scene in white, if I remember rightly. But that is all I remember.

>> No.8945294

>>8945264
You got me. Tell me more about this obscure railway track..

>> No.8945347

>>8945294
That was all I could remember. it's likely he'll pop up in other threads, no? If you keep one eye on the passing of your own life and one eye on either critique or mock-cover threads, there's a chance the karmic forces of the universe could align themselves in your favor, for whatever reason.

>> No.8945424

what if we're ALL tammy pylon???

>> No.8945429
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>> No.8945438

>>8945429
9/10

>> No.8945520

>>8933218
>As the only person who has published 3 books, although no-one will ever believe me, I'll resolve this.
Was it, indeed, good ol' Ruggles?

>> No.8945523
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8945523

>>8945520
Forgot to add the pic related to my post.

>> No.8945548

>>8945520
good job reading the thread
>>8933675

Some things don't fit at all, which leads me to suspect either that post itself is by a different guy, or it's someone who has come into contact with Pynchon/helped him with research.

I do believe he has people who help him research/consult for him, and possibly David E.H. Jones is one of them. Or simply Jones is a huge Pynchon fan.

The fact remains that DFW was a bad reader of Pynchon.

>> No.8945550

>>8945520
Another thing is that Pynchon wrote an introduction for 1984, it's possible he thinks it's "meh" as a choice for favorite novel, but still recognizes its importance and wrote the intro for that reason...I guess.

>> No.8946991

>>8945550
which edition?

>> No.8947221

>>8933243
I've never seen this in such high quality before

>> No.8947679

>>8945523
I thought Pynchon loved BM

Pynchon got final say on the script to this sitcom episode; he even, according to the Dudesicle in the show, had final say on the script of the episode that included a fictional book titled Pandemonium of The Sun (a line from Blood Meridian) that he came up with the title of.

I doubt that's Pynchon.

>> No.8947685

>>8947679
whoops forgot the link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EM98iFKu0ss

>> No.8947761

>>8945550
>>8945523

Given what I know about his feelings on critics and academia, I can't believe that he would relegate energy writing dribbly inane drivel like this.

Sorry, bucko.

>> No.8947782

>>8945550
>it's "meh" as a choice for favorite novel

The way you guys think of literature is toxic. You all think it's a contest and all works are in line for a prize.

>> No.8947800

>>8947761
Who was the homeless woman he supposedly was? I don't think that's been mentioned but I would think you'd know.

>> No.8947809

>>8947800
Wanda Tinasky.

Duh By Feldman.

>> No.8947810

>>8947679
wasnt it that he didnt want to be on the show initially, and then said, okay but i need to be wearing a roky erickson shirt etc

BM avoids certain things about war that I think would make it not that appealing to Pynchon

>> No.8947818

>>8947782
It's definitely not Orwell's best. Deal with it.

>> No.8947820

>>8947800
wanda kaczynski

>> No.8947824

>>8947810
BM clearly establishes man's dark path to self-destruction quite clearly.

Look at the scene where The Man shoots that young bone-picker in the Texan desert.
The youngest of that band of children, all of whom fatherless, wandering and abandoned, inherits the older child's gun. It shows an incessant cycle, a plea for re-calibration in us all.

>> No.8947827

>>8947824
don't forget $$$

oh wait, he did

>> No.8947830

>>8947824
pretty trite compared to what Pynchon is writing in GR

it's all that + more, Blood Meridian is a one-trick pony

>> No.8947838

>>8947827
No, he didn't.

Money, at its core, is the most salient object that could represent man's deep held rapacious desire for power, control, safety. Scalps for coin.
Why does The Kid join up with the Glanton Gang? He's desolate in the desert, yearning for something more. Manifest Destiny, the product of thirst expanding into the west, a wanting of that pie, never left.

>> No.8947851

>>8935568
what film was that ?

>> No.8947852

>>8947830
I don't think Cormac ever set his sights on something as large as GR. Apples and oranges.
It's a simple, eloquent book that people can easily digest if they give effort to.
You made a mistake in trying to compare a work of sole uniqueness to something else.
Also, BM is far more than just a "one-trick pony," Mr. Trite.

>> No.8947863

>>8947810
I doubt Thomas Pynchon thinks in that way.

"Oh, another Luddite who will never operate on my wave. Bah! this book offers me nothing and does not appeal to my strict Charter of Appropriate Themes that speak to genius."

>> No.8947979

>>8945523
Cant possibly be Pynchon because he called someone elses book overwrought and overelaborate

>> No.8947985

>>8947979
Exactly.
The ocean calling the pond wet.

Not necessarily a bad thing, however.

>> No.8947985,1 [INTERNAL] 

that photo above is NOT jackson... lol i believe that guy's name is Erik and he was in my year as well. i went to college with jackson for a year and he has almost black hair, brown eyes. basically looks like old photos of his dad if you used a stretch tool on Thomas Pynchon's face sideways and made the nose more blobby. Probably looks more like his mom. Not gonna lie Jackson definitely has a bit of an ogre quality to his face. Someone in my building on a diff floor was hooking up with him for awhile and called him 'asshole' so I didn't even know he was Pynchon's son until later lmao