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>Yiannopoulos announced on Thursday that he had inked a book deal with Simon & Schuster reportedly worth $250,000.

>"I met with top execs at Simon & Schuster earlier in the year and spent half an hour trying my hardest to shock them with lewd jokes and outrageous opinions," he said. "I thought they were going to have me escorted from the building — but instead they offered me a wheelbarrow full of cash."

Tell me again why you worship the academia-media-publishing industrial complex...

>> No.8905991

>>8905985
You're that frogfaggot who keeps talking about 'the academia-media-publishing industrial complex'. You love him, shill twat

>> No.8905994

im happy for hkm. He worked hard in school, got a job, became a success through hard work, and he made a job of himself. Clapping irl.

>> No.8905998

>>8905985
>Tell me again why you worship the academia-media-publishing industrial complex...

It uh....pays interesting people to write books?

>> No.8906010

>>8905998
>interesting people
>women and gays

nice meme. Let's face it, if Milo had been a straight white male then he wouldn't have been published

>> No.8906013

>>8906010

Uh....so no straight white, controversial male gets published?

>> No.8906017

>>8906010
And Milo wouldn't be popular if he wasn't a right wing gay dude who flaunts that he is right wing and gay

>> No.8906020

>>8906010

Pretty much anyone with a following can get published. This is what agents refer to as a, "Platform."

Publishing has pretty much always been this way, btw.

If you're mad about it, then go out and start throwing your dumb opinions out there, and gain a following, and publish any shit that you want. Because, you know, it's so easy, and any ol' idiot can do it...

>> No.8906022

>>8906013
They don't even have to be controversial

>> No.8906025

>>8906017
Let's face it....most right wingers are gay.

>> No.8906027

I'm guessing it's going to be ghostwritten rehashes of the last five years of Breitbart tripe with some pseudoprophetic provocatisms thrown in for good measure. God knows publishers print what they think will sell over what's good. No surprises here.

>> No.8906029

>>8906017
>>8906020
The only reason Milo has a following is because he's homosexual who enjoys casual sex with other races and comes from a Jewish background

If a straight white man said the same things he did, he would have no followers

>> No.8906030

>>8906027
>God knows publishers print what they think will sell over what's good

Yeah, bastard publishers, trying to make money and shit.

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>>8906029
>The only reason Milo has a following is because he's homosexual who enjoys casual sex with other races and comes from a Jewish background

And maybe he's an incredibly good speaker who knows how to manipulate the media and also a good journalist.

You're right too....there's no straight white men who have the same opinions of him who are successful. None at all.

>> No.8906039

>>8906030
It was a statement, not a denouncement. I don't blame them publishing Milo any more than Fifty Shades.

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8906040

this is gonna be the literary equivalent of pic related

>> No.8906047

>>8906039

It's also a boring, redundant statement. Publishing has always been this way, they publish what sells.

If you can't find your way into this equation, then you're probably not a good writer anyway.

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>>8905985
>right wing cuckolds are retards with money
>surprised publishers want to take advantage of them

>> No.8906055

>>8906047
I'm not a writer and never had aspirations to become one. I'm a librarian making a statement about the publishing industry for anyone confused by how trashy provocateurs get book deals.

>> No.8906064

>>8906055
>they're trashy if they don't agree with my liberal brainwashing

>>8906049
Pepe belongs to the right wing, stop posting him if you're a libcuck

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>>8906064
no one cares

>> No.8906074

>>8906064
Anon, what are you doing on /lit/? Black men are out there right now fucking your imaginary girlfriend. To arms, cuckbrother, to arms!

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>>8906064

>> No.8906098

You can tell if someone's a redditor by whether or not they think people on the right wing care about Milo.

Protip: they don't. Milo and Spencer are media plants.

>> No.8906101

>>8906010
This. If you think this is untrue you're fucking lying to yourself.

>> No.8906103

>>8906098
Anyone who is an enemy of feminism and SJWs is a hero of the right wing

>> No.8906105 [DELETED] 

>Milo is a gay Jew
>haha im totally a white supremacist guys
He's a plant to shape the public image of the "alt-right" (which in itself is a media invention) as a bunch of impotent faggots.

He's a LARPing kike.

>> No.8906110

>>8906105
>kike

Please don't post racism outside of /b/, friend

>> No.8906113

I cannot wait to read this and Lauren Southern's new book

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8906114

>>8906110
I can do whatever I want, nu-male.

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>>8906064
Hold this fist a second.

>> No.8906140

>>8906120
>stalin

>liberal

>> No.8906149

>>8905994
>dropped out twice
>worked hard at school

Really makes me think!

>> No.8906224

Anyone have a link to his retarded poetry collection? I think it was called rainbow papoose or some shit. I could use a good laugh.

>> No.8906244

>>8906039

Maybe you should. Maybe you shouldn't be indifferent to that fact that millions of people read trite garbage that's never going to move them to become better people in any meaningful way.

>> No.8906256

>>8906038
He also has actual beliefs and knows exactly how far to push before he becoming uncharming. He's fantastic, every event I've seen him at he's been a breath of fresh air.
For both the right and the left, personally, I think it's a good thing. He bridges the divide between the two and even got on that liberal joe rogan's podcast. He walked into colleges and walked out a hero.
There's no one that deserves attention in the media more than he does. Balls of brass.

>> No.8906276

>>8906256
>knows exactly how far to push before he becoming uncharming

>> No.8906287

>>8906224
https://storify.com/athenahollow/chris-kluwe-and

Masterpiece. Pack it in lib/lit/turds. "Suprise! You were raped by Santa Claus" is the greatest line of poetry in the english canon.

>> No.8906291

>>8906256
He says cliched shit because he knows there's a huge audience to eat it up like the shit it is
Id be honestly surprised if he believes in anything beyond snorting more coke off of black dicks

>> No.8906299

>cliched shit
The truth is cliched shit. Being obsessed with novelty for novelty's sake just makes you into a fucking retard.

>> No.8906315

>>8906299
he doesn't speak the truth. He tells people exactly what they want to hear

>> No.8906323

>>8906315
>gay
>opposed to fundamentalist theocrats
More like he tells people what's in his basic self-interest as an open faggot.

>> No.8906325

>>8906323
I'm talking about all the trite 'triggering feminists' bullshit

>> No.8906339

>>8906244
You can lead a horse to water etc. I'm not exactly indifferent, but current research supports the practice of reaching readers where they are rather than dictating "better reading." Besides, I'd rather sort through trite garbage for people and have a semi-literate public than an illiterate public with a library curated to high taste.

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8906345

>>8905985
mfw this will be a best seller

>> No.8906357

Milo isn't so bad. But his fanbase is an abomination. The crowds at his speeches are almost entirely three-quarter-jean-wearing manchildren who hoot and holler like animals everytime he "reks" a feminist. They should be locked in cages desu. Thats where they belong. He's basically the right wing Bill Maher.

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8906367

>>8905985
>mfw people take a glorified clickbait writer seriously

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8906370

>>8905985
Stop shilling this gayshit right now!

>> No.8906377

>>8906287
I don't know what's worse, the blatant psuedo-intellectualism, or the borderline nazi worship.
It's like a poem you'd find on tumblr written by a 15 year old whose crush is dating a black person

>> No.8906385

>>8906357
>not so bad
>has most of his material ghostwritten
>"champions" free speech while developing safe spaces for juvenile nationalist doublecucks
>affecting care-free flamboyance for dollerydoos
>paper thin talking points based on misinformation and poor comprehension of statistics, science, history, and religion

>> No.8906399

>>8906367
but he's cucking the liberals so that makes it ok

>> No.8906417

>>8906385
how do you know his stuff is ghostwritten?

>> No.8906434

>>8906417
http://nymag.com/selectall/2016/04/milo-yiannopoulos-44-kids-in-a-trenchcoat.html

>> No.8906438

so funny how mad sucess makes loser leftists

>> No.8906443

>>8906417
>Yiannopoulos confirmed in an interview with BuzzFeed News that he has “about 44” interns — “a mix of paid and unpaid” — writing and conducting research for him. But he denied that other people write stories for him start to finish.

From the man himself, from others at Breitbart, and from a former collaborator of his who wrote a bunch of his material before she realized he had no intention of following through with his "scholarship for white men" and stopped relentlessly stanning for him.

>> No.8906444

>>8905985
>Tell me again why you worship the academia-media-publishing industrial complex...
Wrong board.

>>8906367
Capitalism.

>> No.8906451

>>8905985
>250k
is that considered alot to ppl nowadays?

>> No.8906468

>>8906377
>I don't know what's worse, the blatant psuedo-intellectualism, or the borderline nazi worship.
The left has borderline worshipped its genocidal revolutionaries for years.

>> No.8906612

>>8906468
true say. People on this board should realise that criticism of the regressive left has become so taboo and in the same sense needed that it's ended up giving cultural capital to the ideas moderate leftists hate. "Anyone who disagrees with me is racist bigot etc"...What describes may invoke...

>> No.8906623

>>8906612
Yes, but what of The Jewish Question?

>> No.8906628

>>8906623
I dunno

>> No.8906633

>>8906287
>smug lib twitter fag commentary
boring.
why would milo publish such a mediocre collection of ""poetry"" like this though. i do like the idea of transgressive fascist shit with violent homoeroticism though, on an aesthetic level. its just milo isn't equipped to write it.

>> No.8906700

grabbing /lit/ by the pussy

>> No.8906745

>>8906633
>why would milo publish such a mediocre collection of ""poetry"" like this though.
Probably because he's a hack

>> No.8906747

>>8906633
Milo is like the Buzzfeed version of Mishima.

>> No.8906760

This thread is proof positive of why this board shouldnt handle politics,both sides arguments are preening self congratulatory trash

>> No.8906770

>>8906444

>a fucking tripfag

Uninstall your life pham

>> No.8906959

Funny how the amount he got as an advance is the EXACT same amount of money he scammed off rich donors by saying he was going to start up a scholarship and then promptly forgot about it

>>8906074
This made me laugh

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8906966

i farded then pooped

>> No.8907017

>>8905985
fucking faggot jew

>> No.8907069

Milo is for fucking s art although tight pe

>> No.8907099

>>8905985
Milo is the kind of idiot that thinks he's being edgy by telling some bland joke and then going "Did I just say that? 0_o"

>> No.8907111

>>8906098
r/the_Donald loves him though.

>> No.8907115

>>8907111
the_donald is the meme equivalent of a train wreck

>> No.8907127

>>8907115
I don't disagree with that.

>> No.8907130

>>8906025
Gay right winger here can confirm

>> No.8907132

>>8907115
They only memed Trump into the presidency and had to have the reddit algorithm changed to keep them from dominating the front page.

>> No.8907135

>>8906291
>He says cliched shit
He really doesn't, though. Listen to some of his college lectures. They can be very informative when he's not overdoing the whole flamboyant persona.

>> No.8907138

>>8907132
It's fucking awful. They come here and get triggered by everything and post random people's tweets to get triggered. They also spam random crap and act like every board is /b/.

>> No.8907248

>>8906047
Many writers we consider "greats" couldn't get published in our days. That doesn't mean they suck, it means that they were lucky enough to be born in an age where their works were in demand.

Could Dosto get C&P published in the times of 50 shades? Could Camus publish The Myth of Sisyphus a few years after Ready Player One became a bestseller? Shit, could Hemingway, one of the more accessible writers publish The Sun also rises when most just read genre-fiction?

We read these authors because they're "classics" by now, but if they were to pop up in this day and age as aspiring writers, they couldn't make it.

Who knows how many Dostos, Camus-s and Hemingways we miss because the literary demands of our time?

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>> No.8907386

>>8907248
The death of literary magazines is what has led to a dearth of good, modern literature. There will be something that comes around - there are always lull periods.

Perhaps it has been published, but we simply have forgotten about it for now. There are countless examples of this. But then again, I don't dispute that the 2000s has lacked sorely so far.

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8907396

I don't really like Milo, but he triggers all the right people and shines a light on the toxic and intellectually stifling environment that pervades most modern-day universities/colleges.

With that in mind, I can at least abide him. That's not to say I'll buy his mediocre books or watch his every video. He's the Right's answer to Christopher Hitchens - a contrarian provocateur par excellence, who doesn't write very well but can nonetheless serve as a means to an end.

>> No.8907398

>>8907386

2000s?

Try 1900+

>> No.8907401

>>8907398
Can't agree. After the 50s, maybe. But the World Wars inspired very good literature indeed.

>> No.8907427

>>8907277
lmao this sounds like it was written by one of the chapo trap house guys

>> No.8907457

I want to be the literature guy that everyone calls the genius and references his works as great but this is literally the easiest time to publish anything and also the easiest to be irrelevant.

Why do I have to learn marketing to be a writer these days if I want people to actually read my damn books?

It's better than, you know, not being able to even write if you don't have enough money for ink, I guess.
"Get good at marketing or you're not a real writer!"
That's what these times are screaming.

>> No.8907468

>reactionary cunts or political writers
>discernible talent

Pick one. I wish you stupid faggots would return to /pol/ afterwards though.

>> No.8907474

>>8907457

>Why do I have to learn marketing to be a writer these days if I want people to actually read my damn books?

"Thinkers only make an impact by wild exaggeration." - Isaiah Berlin, 1965.

In the modern day, wild exaggeration IS a form of marketing. Be controversial and the rest will follow suit. Nietzsche knew that, for example, more than a century ago.

>> No.8907490

>>8907396
>He's the Right's answer to Christopher Hitchens
That says more about the sad state if the right than anything else.

>> No.8907499

>>8907490

I don't disagree.

All pseudo-intellectual public-speaking rhetoricians should be shot.

>> No.8907520

>>8907386

What caused the death of literary magazines in the west? I'm Eastern Yuro and our literary magazines were killed by nazi and Soviet occupation along with free-speech, in favor of government mouthpieces and propaganda.

We had such a lively literary life from the mid 18th century to ~1944-ish.

>> No.8907530

>>8907520

>What caused the death of literary magazines in the west?

The death of literacy in the West.

Modern education conflated basic reading/writing for actual literacy.

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>>8906110

>> No.8907695

I don't mind Milo, but he's really just an opportunist, exploiting the ridiculous state of affairs, a more vulgar/flamboyant version of Paul Joseph Watson.
Someone the lazy normies can cheer, because he follows current events and dares speak common sense.
But at the end of the day a generic libertarian with no radical views or original thought.

>> No.8907757

>>8905985
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BgKOHQ-3lAQ

>> No.8907762

>>8905985
>Frogman supports a pedophile
Unsurprising

>> No.8907769

>>8906256
Yeah man, having his twinks bathe in pigs blood wasn't in harming in the least.

>> No.8907816

>>8907520
A lack of motivation to continue with them. People prefer it when they do not have to think or explore.

>> No.8907922

>>8906966
Good post.

>> No.8907960

>>8905985
OP shamelessly jealous of Milo.

OP just come out of the closet, be interesting and learn to write.

Then you can be successful too!

>> No.8907969

Does this even belong in /k/?

>> No.8908778

>>8906038
Not a good journalist.

>> No.8908800

>>8906256
He's a contrarian. He has no beliefs. All he does is react reflexively to the world around him, that's why he's catholic.

>> No.8908834

>>8907135
He plays with statistics, doesn't really have the understanding that you can't just isolate certain studies/figures and then frame them conveniently to fit your narrative. Science is a much more holistic process that's slow and deliberate.

I've listened to him before, I don't like him. He's not good. Most smart people I've listened to or met tend to have this way of couching ideas in a way a certain shade of doubt as to leave them open for possibilities: it's important not to be married to your ideas. Milo does not do that-- He has no sense of intellectual humility. He's a con man that tries to railroad you to HIS conclusions. I think that's predatory and I also think his bullshit contrarian provocateur schtick hurts journalism.

Fuck Milo.

>> No.8908852

>>8908834
Eh, all political figures/journalists are just as much manipulative conmen. It's good to have a balance to all these retarded smug liberal shits in journalism.

>> No.8908873

>>8908852
Correct and I can still hate every fucking one of them, that doesn't absolve Milo of being shit stain with absolutely no sense of critical thought outside being a contrarian for the sake of being a contrarian. He is a shallow minded man.

>> No.8908887

>>8908873
He still serves a purpose though. It's not like you're ever going to have it so that every journalist and public figure is unbiased. Milo is a good counterpoint to liberalism for normals.

>> No.8908897

>>8908834
>He plays with statistics, doesn't really have the understanding that you can't just isolate certain studies/figures and then frame them conveniently to fit your narrative. Science is a much more holistic process that's slow and deliberate.

But if it is repeatedly shown by many different studies with a correct methodology, then what is wrong? Of course a journalist won't link to every study ever done, a few examples are enough to prove his point.

>> No.8908925

>>8908887
Is he a good counterpoint? I guess but what the fuck does that mean? Why is it a good thing to be just as much of a fuckhead as the guys on the other side of the aisle. Isn't that a little hypocritical? Why would we expect opponent to be better when we don't even hold ourselves to that standard.

>>8908897

>Of course a journalist won't link to every study ever done, a few examples are enough to prove his point.

That's a bullshit standard. That's how it works in Academia, people are constantly referencing other people's work. I'm talking about intellectual humility--Milo thinks he has a monopoly of the truth, which is a dangerous thing for a "journalist."

>> No.8908946

>>8907457
>Writers now have to have a social media footprint to be published
I fucking hate this. I just want to be a recluse like Tommy Pinecone.
>>8907474
There is nothing controversial that could be published. The people who control publishing are liberal women who still labor under the delusion that burning a confederate flag is some subversive, revolutionary act. Or maybe calling a Catholic priest a pedophile. Something truly controversial like non-ironic fascist worship would never get rubberstamped by these coastal liberals who have tyrannized and debased literature for decades.

>> No.8909223

>>8907427
Sam Kriss, actually, so only sort of.

>> No.8909399

I actually enjoy reading his articles though, he has entertaining similes:
ex: "like some gay Judas selling out Hillary for 30 feet of wall."

>> No.8909851

>>8905994
>became a success through hard work
If by hard work you mean jumping on to the band wagon and screaming like a chimp at anything even remotely controversial, all for the chance at some attention, then yes he is quite the hard worker.

>> No.8909863

>>8907130
>gay right winger
that's a paradox

>> No.8909888

>>8905985
LOL that quote, holy fuck

>> No.8909927

i've never understood why people like this guy

is it just like trump, in that he pisses people off and that liking him pisses people off as well

>> No.8911329

>>8909927
yes that is part of the appeal
http://dailycaller.com/2016/12/30/writer-laments-publisher-picking-milos-book-over-her-biography-of-lesbian-artist/

>> No.8911389

>>8909927
He's also extremely hateful. Basically every talk he ever gives he's expressly insulting to huge swaths of the population. This may be red meat for his base, but he'll never appeal to me pulling such attention-whoring stunts.

>> No.8911391

>>8909927
I would say Trump has much wider appeal than Milo per >>8911389

>> No.8911410

>>8906287
>Deleuze, Bataille, Mann
he's more patrician than I thought desu