thoughts on zizek?

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Anonymous Sat Nov 12 15:45:47 2016 No.8717126 [Reply] [Original]

thoughts on zizek?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 12 15:56:34 2016 No.8717155 "there are two sins, paedophillia, and smoking - I don't smoke"

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 12 15:58:22 2016 No.8717162 >>8717126 Deontology...reification...dialectic...sniff

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 12 16:01:08 2016 No.8717165 File: 406 KB, 914x898, KKPMAps.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] smart, but kind of dumb

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 12 16:03:35 2016 No.8717171 really catchy for philosophy undergrads

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 12 16:06:11 2016 No.8717176 File: 26 KB, 480x288, 973f6984d75cfc4f675a8e00bd1f5e3db745fe76b5b7dec7e6fb56c2ea8bd830.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8717126 SNIFF

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 12 16:06:42 2016 No.8717177 >>8717171 Nice numbers.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 12 16:06:49 2016 No.8717180 a bit memey desu

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 12 16:10:59 2016 No.8717192 >>8717126 I voted for Trump because of him, not even kidding.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 12 16:11:41 2016 No.8717198 name a better contemporary philosopher.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 12 16:12:10 2016 No.8717201 File: 51 KB, 1000x742, Judith Butler.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8717198

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 12 16:12:30 2016 No.8717202 File: 48 KB, 600x505, IMO.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8717126

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 12 16:12:43 2016 No.8717204 >>8717192 hating on trump is just a meme, relax.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 12 16:13:01 2016 No.8717205 >>8717201 >Brainwashed into thinking queer theory is good.

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Anonymous Sat Nov 12 16:43:04 2016 No.8717290
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>>8717126
Beyond being a good meme, he's unironically one of the better philosophers we have now. Rare enough to find a philosopher of any type who engages with modern culture rather than retreat into ivory-tower obscurantism, rarer still to find a Leftist with a sense of humour.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 12 16:47:57 2016 No.8717302 >>8717290 >Rare enough to find a philosopher of any type who engages with modern culture rather than retreat into ivory-tower obscurantism Hardly. There are a lot of those who engage with the contemporary problems.

Anonymous Sat Nov 12 16:58:26 2016 No.8717319

>>8717302
Sure, but they do it using dense specialist language and piling on references to previous philosophers, so they're almost unintelligible to the layman. Zizek uses simple illustrations like the trash can or They Live, giving a popular appeal most lack - there's a reason he caught on here rather than Badieau or Blackburn or someone.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 12 16:59:11 2016 No.8717321 He's a gommunist.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 12 17:08:33 2016 No.8717342 >>8717319 >so they're almost unintelligible to the layman As far as A-T philosophy goes, once you have a basic understanding of terminology, which is not very hard to learn, following most things becomes easy.

Anonymous Sat Nov 12 17:25:01 2016 No.8717379

>>8717319
Yet, I cannot take serious a man that uses psychoanalysis as a base for his philosophy.
Zizek is funny and entertaining, and has some good ideas, but is still a pseudointellectual at heart. I like him nonetheless, but can't listen to him without being extremely skeptical.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 12 17:34:53 2016 No.8717405 >>8717165 >Ray-did Every fucking time.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 12 17:42:34 2016 No.8717427 >>8717342 Analytic philosophy doesn't engage with contemporary cultural problems, unless you count zombies and sci-fi as contemporary cultural problems. Like you could make this argument when we in Star Trek.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 12 17:51:16 2016 No.8717449 >>8717427 >Analytic philosophy I didn't say analytic philosophym even if A-T is often using analytic methods.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 12 18:01:57 2016 No.8717468 >>8717449 Feser log off already

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 12 18:05:25 2016 No.8717477 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMHLUI0CrnA

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 12 18:07:25 2016 No.8717486 >>8717449 >I didn't say that but I did mean that Uh huh.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 12 18:39:17 2016 No.8717571 He voted for Trump. Anyone here knows why?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 12 18:40:43 2016 No.8717574 >>8717571 He can't vote in the US election, but think about what country the first lady is from.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 12 18:43:20 2016 No.8717581 >>8717486 You don't know what A-T philosophy is, right?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 12 18:45:16 2016 No.8717589 >>8717571 Basically he doesn't necessarily like Trump, but thinks he represents a possiblity of radical change where Clinton stood for entrenched power of capitalism, neoliberalism, and so on. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4vHSiotAFA

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 12 18:47:08 2016 No.8717595 >>8717126 trump supporter and traitor to progress

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 12 18:54:07 2016 No.8717611 >>8717581 I literally just went through most of Feser's work over the past month.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 12 18:56:47 2016 No.8717617 >>8717126 schniff

Anonymous Sat Nov 12 19:03:23 2016 No.8717630

>>8717611
And you think that's not accesible to the layman, even if he wrote most of it for them?
MacIntyre even opens his books with "contemporary philosophy is garbage, I will make this readable for people who can use it, like lawyers and politicians".

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 12 19:10:28 2016 No.8717649 File: 26 KB, 460x276, zizek.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8717574 Slovenian world domination when?

Anonymous Sat Nov 12 19:22:12 2016 No.8717674

>>8717630
I think there are two main points against this: most of what he writes about may make certain interpretations/aspects more accessible to the """layman""", but what he's writing about is often very dense and is hard even for philosophers, or has a plurality of interpretations. Not all of what he writes in that sense is even straightforward.

It isn't culturally relevant: it's mostly normative (maybe that's what's confusing you?). In an odd way Zizek mostly performs a kind of positive analysis on what is, whereas Feser and the thinkers he's writing from are very much about hypotheticals and normative shit. Where they both kind of meet is in Nagel tho, I've noted that there's at least superficially some relatedness between Zizek and Nagel but I've not had so much of a chance to explore it.

Anonymous Sat Nov 12 19:34:44 2016 No.8717702
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Yes ofcourse we all know *sniff sniff* that *sniff* a true communism, this dream that came and went *shirt pull* as sort of this Stalinist big Other watching *sniff* is really at the heart of Christianity which demands a kind of sacrifice *sniff sniff* the same way as any good Stalinist means when he say “the door to the left is the door to Kolyma” you know this joke yes.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 12 20:25:47 2016 No.8717803 >>8717649 >implying it isn't already here

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 12 20:33:11 2016 No.8717824 >>8717198 Alisdair McAlister

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 12 20:34:59 2016 No.8717831 >>8717198 Alasdair MacIntyre

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 12 20:35:36 2016 No.8717833 >>8717171 I really, really like these digits.

Anonymous Sat Nov 12 22:51:53 2016 No.8718134
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Does anyone have the video where he talks about how modern couples should just have sex with a dildo and plastic pussy and just talk.

I can't find it and am getting tired of hearing him tell the same stories over and over.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 12 23:09:24 2016 No.8718180 >>8718134 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xYO-VMZUGo typed 'zizek sex' into google

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 12 23:15:06 2016 No.8718195 >>8718180 Thanks I guess beggars can't be choosers, but I could of sworn there was one where he said more of less the same thing with a women on a panel or asking him questions where he was more graphic.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 12 23:23:35 2016 No.8718205 >>8717198 alain de botton

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 12 23:43:14 2016 No.8718235 >>8718205 And now you have made the obscene tribute to the superego, what would you really say?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 12 23:49:53 2016 No.8718244 >>8718205 LOL

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 12 23:51:01 2016 No.8718249 >>8717177 >y-you too

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 12 23:53:37 2016 No.8718254 >>8717201 AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHhahah fuck off and go back to tumblr

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 12 23:57:51 2016 No.8718264 >>8717205 >every binary is invalid except for the ones by which i identify myself

Anonymous Sun Nov 13 00:02:50 2016 No.8718272

>>8718264
>moar than two genders "break the binary" meme
Examine the entire fucking human population and I dare you to find anything besides penises and vaginas attaxhed to people's crotches. Intersex people exist, but are exceedingly rare and exist due to congenital abnormalties. Get fucked you SJW swine. (that is unless you're baiting:^)

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 13 00:15:57 2016 No.8718295 >>8718205 more like bottom

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 13 00:28:14 2016 No.8718318 File: 2.40 MB, 250x188, 1453546986570.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8718180 >you will never be one of zizeks friends. >you will never just meet up in a group. to have fun.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 13 00:37:54 2016 No.8718329 >>8718318 What's wrong with Zizek? Why does he keep sniffing?

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 13 00:51:38 2016 No.8718360 >>8718329 deviated septum from years of railing /stim/s

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 13 00:59:21 2016 No.8718371 >>8718360 He says he's never done drugs.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 13 00:59:35 2016 No.8718373 >>8718272 But what about feminine penises?

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 13 01:01:23 2016 No.8718375 The court jester of Hegel.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 13 01:03:29 2016 No.8718377 >>8718318 one of my professors studied under him and meets him for lunch when he is local. hes going to be at my university next year that same professor told me

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 13 01:10:38 2016 No.8718387 File: 1.07 MB, 378x480, 1473116852190.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8718375 ziz-kek

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 13 02:47:32 2016 No.8718534 >>8718272 There's a sizeable population of little girls that turn into men at puberty in Costa Rice, and that's due to their genetics friend ;) I mean you say congenital like it's a point, it's a tautology in how you're trying to use it.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 13 02:53:24 2016 No.8718544 >>8717198 Manuel DeLanda

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 13 03:09:19 2016 No.8718563 He's an example of why the Right Hegelians should have won.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 13 03:42:45 2016 No.8718597 >>8718563 >the Right Hegelians Moar liek the wrong Hegelians

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 13 04:26:07 2016 No.8718658 >>8717126 Shoshaeti, soshal shekkular laif naider kurrupted armi injastrial komplex, nor maslim bartherhud... awakned touches nose, swifts hand over his eyebrows

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 13 04:34:26 2016 No.8718676 >>8717201 Butler is awesome.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 13 06:43:08 2016 No.8718799 >Zizek >le spook man xD why are leftist memes so boring?

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 13 07:19:08 2016 No.8718860 >>8718597 The Right Hegelians are the reason we even have most of Hegels works in readable form.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 13 08:08:28 2016 No.8718899 >>8718799 Memes are a spook

>>	rain guy !!HpcozyiVIJJ Sun Nov 13 08:20:38 2016 No.8718914 >>8717201 she's smart but her theory is garbage, sheila jeffreys is def better

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 13 08:28:56 2016 No.8718918 >>8718799 that's real spooky, friend

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 13 08:33:20 2016 No.8718921 its Žižek retards

Anonymous Sun Nov 13 08:42:38 2016 No.8718930

>>8718860
And the reason any of us are talking about a """Western Philosophy""" is thanks to Islam. Therefore become a muslim if you haven't already.

What you've said is actually a load of bollocks btw, it's like saying we wouldn't know about Adam Smith if not for the Manchester School. Except wronger. So not valid, nor sound.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 13 08:43:39 2016 No.8718933 File: 703 KB, 940x749, zizekpoint.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8718329 He's an obsessional neurotic. He said it in one of his lectures and citied it for all of his ticks.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 13 09:10:32 2016 No.8718995 File: 125 KB, 676x673, zizekparty2.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8717202 5 minutes in MS paint

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 13 09:15:42 2016 No.8719006 File: 116 KB, 676x673, zizekparty.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8718995 And here's my very shitty template.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 13 09:19:53 2016 No.8719012 >>8718799 >Milo >le cucks xD Why are right wing memes so boring

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 13 09:21:46 2016 No.8719020 >>8719012 Oh god are those ones boring. I think the most interesting thing about those memes is the tendency of the memers to use sock puppets and so pretend like they've got some dank memeage going on.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 13 09:42:24 2016 No.8719055 >>8717126 Mark Hamill really let himself go.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 13 09:43:38 2016 No.8719061 >>8719055 kek

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 13 09:47:30 2016 No.8719070 File: 123 KB, 639x832, CVYqEY2XIAAd0k5.jpg large.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8719061 Foreshadowing

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 13 10:30:18 2016 No.8719162 File: 41 KB, 618x412, dan-harmon.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8719055 Thats Dan Harmon

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 13 10:39:54 2016 No.8719187 >>8719162 Let's just say that a lot of people look like a fucked up Mark Hamill.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 13 12:18:28 2016 No.8719416 >>8718995 I wonder where the toilet is Dancing, drinking, having fun, this is ideology at its purest I wish I was home watching Ducksoup Muh gawd that man is smoking a cigarette indoors.This is an obscenity.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 13 12:24:23 2016 No.8719433 >>8719416 >Muh gawd *my gott

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Anonymous Sun Nov 13 19:04:36 2016 No.8720701

>>8717126

He only seeks that which goes comfortably with his preconceived conclusions. Like most sophists, he is unwilling to be shaken and therefore unwilling to learn or humble himself. Humility is the greatest attribute in those who seriously seek knowledge and wisdom.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 13 19:07:19 2016 No.8720710 >>8720701 gb2childhood godcuck

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 13 19:16:23 2016 No.8720753 >>8717126 He's a good voice in the mainstream, although repetitive. Breaks the echo chamber of the mainstream left which is pretty insufferable.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 13 19:29:52 2016 No.8720792 File: 247 KB, 1745x2048, žižek.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] 8/10

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 13 23:19:41 2016 No.8721617 File: 14 KB, 262x192, ladda ned (2).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8717198 Easy

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 14 01:15:19 2016 No.8721977 >>8717198 harris

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 14 01:17:29 2016 No.8721982 >>8720753 Pretty much this Personally, he broke me out of my own little alt-right meme bubble

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 14 01:21:08 2016 No.8721992 >>8721982 Zizek is good for that. He's a little like a philosophical shotgun: read him as an amateur and you'll pick up enough interesting ideas to start thinking for yourself.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 14 02:52:59 2016 No.8722169 >>8721617 this insufferable cunt will be the first to hang on the day of the rope

Anonymous Mon Nov 14 03:53:28 2016 No.8722273

>>8717379
Lacan used psychoanalysis as his base because thats what there was to learn in pyschology at the time. Freud said a lot of cooky shit but you have to know his terminology and understand his philosophical principles to grasp decent psychoanalytical philosophy.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 14 04:11:33 2016 No.8722297 >>8721617 he's right though. we're headed towards a libertarian society and anyone who isn't filthy rich or licking up the cumstains of the filthy rich thinking it's going to be good for them is a fucking moron.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 14 07:45:48 2016 No.8722618 >>8717126 fat babbling idiot with severe speach impediment

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 14 07:50:20 2016 No.8722621 >>8721982 What is wrong with alt-right?

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 14 08:07:34 2016 No.8722646 >>8717198 Lin Manuel Miranda.

Anonymous Mon Nov 14 08:42:59 2016 No.8722693

Can someone explain exactly what he means by his ideology metaphor? I understand what he means with ideology as a pair of glasses that distorts everything you see, but how does the trashcan come into this? Is ideology both the glasses and the trash you are eating because you don't see it as such?

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 14 12:44:49 2016 No.8723272 >>8722693 someone pls answer

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 14 13:38:27 2016 No.8723440 >>8718676 No she isn't. There is no practical difference between a "subject position" and essentialism.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 14 13:43:25 2016 No.8723453 >>8722693 You're fucking retarded

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 14 13:52:02 2016 No.8723482 >>8723453 i wouldn't call him smart either but >calling people who ask questions on the internet retarded

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 14 13:54:26 2016 No.8723495 name one (1) better memeologist than zizek pro tip: you can't

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 14 13:58:35 2016 No.8723509 He made me think about things I never even considered before.For that,I love him.Plus ,his sense of humour is fucking amazing . It's mostly Americans ,and people who think analytical philosophy is the shit who always dismiss him.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 14 14:03:09 2016 No.8723519 File: 1.06 MB, 3800x2374, Chomsky_0.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Zizek BTFO https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVBOtxCfan0

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 14 14:03:53 2016 No.8723520 >>8723495 ___me___

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 14 14:04:04 2016 No.8723522 >>8723519 chomsky is a fraud

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 14 14:05:00 2016 No.8723527 >>8717126 more like slavfuck zikGAY lol

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 14 14:06:20 2016 No.8723532 >>8723519 Here's one: The subject is not a single entity but fundamentally divided There, done. Your move Chomsky

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 14 14:07:23 2016 No.8723535 >>8723519 Chomsky is as big a meme as Zizek tho. Genuinely believes in an autistic conspiracy theory which posits there is no democrat or republican party, only the "Business Party".

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 14 14:12:12 2016 No.8723549 >>8723519 >"uhh he is not interesting to me" >"I don't see any reason to have conversation with him because he is not interesting" Seems like someone is intimidated as fuck

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 14 14:15:10 2016 No.8723559 File: 103 KB, 458x438, dancingspurdo.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8723453 Very insightful, thanks.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 14 14:18:24 2016 No.8723576 Anyone have that video of Zizek showing his house but edited? He opens a cupboard in his kitchen and there's dildos and noam chomsky's face.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 14 14:33:53 2016 No.8723616 File: 224 KB, 464x427, the_chomsky_zizek_feud_so_far.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8723519 Reminder

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 14 14:46:00 2016 No.8723661 http://withendemanndom.blogspot.com/2014/07/slavoj-zizek-philosophaster-and_9.html His rare instances of coherence are plagiarism.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 14 14:48:45 2016 No.8723673 >>8723661 Yawn

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 14 14:51:51 2016 No.8723680 >>8723616 >Noam Chomsky makes his post 9 minutes ago >the comments are from 11 minutes ago really makes me think

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 14 14:52:08 2016 No.8723682 >>8723616 I thought the all the "My God, and so on" stuff was just pure memery. Does he talk like this all the time?

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 14 14:52:57 2016 No.8723687 >>8723673 Off to bed you little scamp

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 14 15:36:34 2016 No.8723857 >>8723682 He says 'my gott' and 'and so on' a lot. Go listen to some of his stuff on youtube.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 14 15:46:18 2016 No.8723893 >>8723616 Wow, both of these ideological deviants whose ideas would, if anybody could be tricked into implementing them, cause a great deal of unnecessary suffering, are really petty and dumb.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 14 16:02:42 2016 No.8723961 >>8723680 Its symbolic for how ahead of the argument Zizek is

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 14 16:33:12 2016 No.8724072 >>8723961 kek

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 14 17:27:15 2016 No.8724309 what's the best way to into zizek? random youtube videos?

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 14 17:28:24 2016 No.8724312 >>8724309 Read Hegel.

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>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 14 19:09:07 2016 No.8724601 >>8723616 On so many levels I would that it were.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 14 19:59:47 2016 No.8724742 File: 62 KB, 580x386, 0789908.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8717198

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 14 20:05:56 2016 No.8724767 >>8724742 w2sw nick land?

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 14 20:08:13 2016 No.8724772 >>8724767 I have no idea what you mean.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 14 20:10:18 2016 No.8724780 >>8724772 where to start with

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 14 20:12:54 2016 No.8724789 >>8724780 Probably Fanged Noumena. There should be a pdf floating around somewhere.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 15 04:00:33 2016 No.8725904 >>8717126 >against ideology >is leftist How

Anonymous Tue Nov 15 04:12:25 2016 No.8725923

>>8718180
>machines do all the work so you don't have to fear about your performance
So basicly he's saying give in to your fear of failure. Don't try to overcome your weaknesses. Don't try to ascend. Be weak. Be mediocre. Don't try to make an effort. Don't try to fulfill your dreams. Don't try to realize the possibilities in you. Don't try to be the best version of yourself.
Pathetic.
I'm truly disgusted by defeatist attitudes like this.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 15 04:51:57 2016 No.8725980 File: 94 KB, 348x437, 1463876279846.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8725923 Hoh boy, this is the spookiest post I seen all day Hold still this will only hurt a lot

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 15 06:22:13 2016 No.8726096 >>8717126 Sometimes smart, sometimes pants-on-head retarded, sometimes an incoherent mess, most of the time annoying to listen to due to his weird mannerisms and lisp

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 15 07:47:50 2016 No.8726213 File: 13 KB, 247x248, 1454190312909.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8722621 The fact that you are asking this is already a part of what is wrong with it

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 15 07:52:44 2016 No.8726226 >>8725923 >fucking some slut is 'trying to ascend' calm down bro

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 15 08:02:13 2016 No.8726247 >>8726242 In fact, thinking you can be free of ideology, or that your world-view is the only non-ideological one, is itself the most powerful ideology.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 15 08:03:16 2016 No.8726250 >against ideology He is not, ideology is not something you can be 'against' it, it's impossible to get rid of it.

Anonymous Tue Nov 15 09:30:38 2016 No.8726421

>>8717379
psychoanalysis gets shat on way too much for what it is, especially when looked at from a philosophical perspective rather than a simply analytic perspective.

i'm actually in a course right now called Psychoanalysis and Politics, and it starts with Freud, moves through Lacan, Marcuse, Abraham and Torok, to Zizek, who we are reading for Wednesday. So I can't say much about Zizek as of yet, but I do know that psychoanalysis can be applied to a whole range of political and philosophical topics, and truly can be a good foundation for a philosophical discourse, as long as it is engaged with intellectually, rather than simply with an analytic bent.

Freud himself delves into politics by the end of his career, with Civilization and its Discontents, wherein he essentially psychoanalyzes modern civilization, using his methods from the individual level, and discusses how civilization could get to the point it has gotten to (published in 1930 originally, right before Hitler, but anti-Semitic sentiment + xenophobia were rampant in Germany/Austria at the time) through the various pathologies etc. that man has grown into.

He also has a book called Group Psychology which analyzes the makeup of a group, talks about the psychology of cults, religion, and the military, and how followers differ from leaders in those groups. A very poignant political text.

Also, Freud's theories of trauma proposed in Beyond the Pleasure Principle are still relevant today, and are the touchstone for any modern theory of trauma in the "serious" discipline of psychology.

Basically, to dismiss someone because he "uses psychoanalysis as a base for his philosophy" is ignorant and dismissive, and frankly reductive to the popular, vulgar understanding of Freud as some nutjob cokehead who didn't know what he was doing.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 15 09:40:04 2016 No.8726437 >>8717126 Slavoj "Death penalty for rapists" Zizek Sometimes he just goes full retard, and he's an actual cultural marxist Searching for good ideas in his work is like searching for gold in a garbage bin

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 15 09:44:10 2016 No.8726441 File: 339 KB, 666x430, zig ziglar from the wu tang clan.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8717126 A meme man of objectively less intellectual credibility than pic related.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 15 09:44:45 2016 No.8726442 >>8717477 Whats wrong with cocaine use?

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 15 09:54:22 2016 No.8726457 >>8726437 Whats wrong with killing rapists? Worst case scenario is we wrongly convict someone, but that really isn't a huge net loss for humanity.

Anonymous Tue Nov 15 09:55:44 2016 No.8726461

>>8725923
Holy shit my dude I strongly suggest you look for a doctor, you seem to be failing from a serious case of protestant ethics.

Full automatization of work is precisely what will let you look for your true potential. What do you think is better: Staying home and reading whatever it is that you want to and doing routines aimed at maximizing development of every set of muscles or toiling away in menial tasks, reading complete noise information all along and / or doing repetitive tasks all along?

Work destroys the soul of man, to the point we're left with a population of retarded Sysyphus like you

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 15 09:57:00 2016 No.8726463 >>8726461 Yeah! Just look at Star Trek:TNG

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 15 09:58:20 2016 No.8726465 >>8726461 Spot on. I grew up around farmers who took so much pride in having absolutely no time to develop interests or passions outside of kicking shit.

Anonymous Tue Nov 15 09:58:52 2016 No.8726468

>>8726250
It's almost as if this is the point he's been making since he begun his career, and his work is precisely trying to identify the mechanisms of ideology??????

Maybe if you read a fucking book instead of spouting memes you'd know this, but asking for people on /lit/ to read is too much these days

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 15 09:58:58 2016 No.8726470 File: 29 KB, 826x132, j7665j56.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] who would win in an intellectual debate between alex jones and zizek? bear in mind that zizek has been drinking fluoridated water his entire life

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 15 10:00:52 2016 No.8726477 >>8726470 Alex can definitely bench more. Both would be kinda fun to hang out with.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 15 10:01:37 2016 No.8726479 >>8726470 this picture is real btw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bixgOtkLao scroll down

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 15 10:01:46 2016 No.8726480 >>8726470 Neither would win but I'd watch 10 hours of it.

Anonymous Tue Nov 15 10:05:07 2016 No.8726484

>>8726421
I think the whole world knows this, no one takes Freud 100% seriously but everyone also knows that a lot of his work is pretty much on point, and also extremely important in modern humanities as a whole.

Then, there are the retarded americans, who think that filling kids up with prescription drugs once they hit 8 so no one has to recognize the inner workings of their subconscious and face some trauma in their lifes.

US Capitalism is disgusting. And yes, "Safe spaces" and SJWs are a direct result of america's obsession of "Feeling good".

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 15 10:07:11 2016 No.8726489 >>8726470 what the fuck is he trying to say?

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 15 10:07:48 2016 No.8726493 >>8726489 Lizard people control literally everything

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 15 10:08:59 2016 No.8726497 >>8726465 Work is a disease, there's no dignity in busting your ass so you can make a living. Also, sorry for that awkward wording on the last post but I just woke up and I can't think straight when I'm phoneposting

Anonymous Tue Nov 15 10:09:36 2016 No.8726499

>>8726470
>Out of a population of about three-quarters of a billion, under 14 million people (approximately a mere 2%) in Europe receive artificially-fluoridated water. Those people are in the UK (5,797,000), Republic of Ireland (3,250,000), Spain (4,250,000), and Serbia (300,000).[6]

Europe has mostly redpilled water.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 15 10:10:41 2016 No.8726501 >>8726497 I forget who wrote it, but I read a really cool piece about how the ancient greeks had slaves because they truly detested work. I don't really blame them.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 15 10:11:27 2016 No.8726508 >>8726499 ((([6])))

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 15 10:11:59 2016 No.8726509 >>8726497 The problem is not busting your ass per se, the issue is that nowadays you're doing sorely to make money to some baby boomer magnate.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 15 10:12:21 2016 No.8726510 >>8726489 It's really not that hard to comprehend, are you mentally retarded?

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 15 10:13:28 2016 No.8726513 >>8726479 >ooh it's a nightmare and so on zizekism still make me kek desu

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 15 10:14:13 2016 No.8726519 Can someone explain the "globalism is capitalism" meme?

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 15 10:14:18 2016 No.8726520 >>8726509 Yeah. I'd never blame someone for working hard on improving their golf game, writing a novel, etc.. But it's silly to do so for a person with little interest in you finding some meaning in life.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 15 10:15:50 2016 No.8726526 >>8726519 Globalized markets (and it's political cousins) are the natural conclusion to expanding as a successful capitalist entity. I'm sure someone could explain it better than me.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 15 10:17:18 2016 No.8726529 >>8726526 You mean international trading?

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 15 10:18:41 2016 No.8726534 File: 274 KB, 328x439, Hadvar.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8726508 To the block, /pol/, nice and easy.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 15 10:24:11 2016 No.8726539 File: 160 KB, 608x347, town rapist.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8726479

Anonymous Tue Nov 15 10:28:05 2016 No.8726545

>>8726529
It never stops at trading though. Think of how businesses and your own government interact. Now imagine that also happening on a global scale. Huge companies don't just influence national policy, they are eventually "forced" to influence global policy leading to global homogeneity on an economic level which in theory would come to influence foreign cultures and politics. Capitalist entities will always drive for more profit and efficiency. This eventually grows to a global scale. Capitalism that doesn't lead to globalization means capitalism that isn't doing what it's meant to do.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 15 10:31:48 2016 No.8726556 File: 25 KB, 1098x196, europea.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 15 10:35:28 2016 No.8726560 >>8726545 How would socialism or communism prevent this?

Anonymous Tue Nov 15 10:37:16 2016 No.8726563

>>8726519
What do you mean by "globalism"? The alt-right meme or "globalization"? People are really deep down all degenerates and the more economic prosperity you have the more liberal of a culture will develop e.g. 80s conservative economic liberalism lead to a culture of vulgar cultural liberalism developing. Capitalism must eliminate the nation state in the end because it gets in the way of unrestricted free economic activity and movement of economic factors preventing any global equilibrium from emerging.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 15 10:40:31 2016 No.8726569 >>8726563 What about national socialism?

Anonymous Tue Nov 15 10:41:58 2016 No.8726573

>>8726560
By stabilizing local communities with their local production needs being organized by the locals themselves, while preventing megacorporations that transcend natural to exist by seizing the means of production for the workers, which in turn would make said production become localized and self-managed as well.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 15 10:47:54 2016 No.8726595 >>8726509 Yeah, I'm not talking about effort when I mean work, I'm talking about labour, sorry, we kinda use the same word in my language most of the time.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 15 10:49:54 2016 No.8726600 >>8726573 I don't see how that would prevent corporations from being formed

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 15 10:52:21 2016 No.8726604 >>8725923 I would agree with your post, but you seem so hurt. Amusing.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 15 11:05:19 2016 No.8726648 >>8726600 It can't happen out of pure logistic, unless you believe the communism=central planning meme

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 15 11:12:06 2016 No.8726666 >>8726569 If it would have adopted an actual socialist economic aproach it would've been the most perfect system ever devised by man

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 15 11:12:11 2016 No.8726667 >>8717201 Yeah but what about J. J. Halberstam?

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 15 11:17:42 2016 No.8726686 >>8726666 Quads of truth

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 15 11:17:51 2016 No.8726688 File: 67 KB, 600x620, 1438722775303.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Has Zizek ever written anything about Stirner? He is described as Hegelian so I thought there might be some overlap.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 15 11:18:18 2016 No.8726690 File: 93 KB, 657x417, fullsizeoutput_fa9.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8726539

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 15 11:19:29 2016 No.8726697 >>8726688 Stirner is completely irrelevant outside this Prussian thought-representations agora.

Anonymous Tue Nov 15 11:19:31 2016 No.8726698
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For a Marxists, he is really good at marketing himself.
I like him cause he knows the scourge of
identity politics that infects the left and refuses to subscribe to that

Recently i think that his whole nose sniffing thing and scratching and shirt pulling is a put on, part of his brand.

I applaud him for somehow being well known as a philosopher in 21st century

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 15 11:30:54 2016 No.8726727 >>8726697 t. Marx

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 15 11:37:00 2016 No.8726743 >>8726727 kek Sankt Marx

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 15 13:11:59 2016 No.8726983 >>8726698 >Recently i think that his whole nose sniffing thing and scratching and shirt pulling is a put on, part of his brand. its called a tic

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 15 15:23:30 2016 No.8727359 >>8726983 It's called 80 dollars a gram

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 15 15:24:44 2016 No.8727363 >>8727359 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMHLUI0CrnA

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