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7758901 No.7758901 [Reply] [Original]

Post your intellectual master-mind ITT
Laugh at others who think they've got it all figured out by themselves.
Recommend new masters to others.

>> No.7758992
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I keep coming back to this guy because his approach to live seems sensible even in the face of nihilisms and so on.

>> No.7758998

>People think Free Will exists

Man can do what he wills, but cannot will what he wills.

Tbh. Good enough for Einstein to trash the idea of free will, good enough for me.

>> No.7759007
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>> No.7759030

>>7758998
Knowledge doesn't condition the will, yet the will conditions knowledge. (On the Will in nature)

>> No.7759280

plase what the fuck is this. in the end you have to do it by yourself. you juust get bricks from other people, but you have to build you own house. you dont get protected from the rain by watching someone under his own umbrella right?

>> No.7759327

>>7759280
The point is to build your house on a ground which still has potential left in it.

Nietzsche is dry is as fuck for example.

>> No.7759350

>>7759280
Ah, eclecticism, a follower of Master Chickpea I see!

>> No.7759357

>>7759280
You'll need to work in order to get your very own umbrella.

>> No.7759363
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>>7759007
Oh shit, we're about to brawl. Hope you can learn Chinese before you get stepped to.

>> No.7759376
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>>7759007
>>7759363

>> No.7759397

Diderot is mein nigger.

>> No.7759405
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>>7758901

>> No.7759429

Ezra Pound is the closest thing I have to a master.

In my language, Camões and father Vieira.

>> No.7759447

>>7759405
Nice little meme you've got there.

>> No.7759448
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>>7758901
A parable to prove
the futility of dead masters

DUKE HWAN AND THE WHEELWRIGHT

Duke Hwan of Khi,
First in his dynasty,
Sat under his canopy
Reading his philosophy;
And Phien the wheelwright
\Vas out in the yard
Making a wheel.
Phien laid aside
Hammer and chisel,
Climbed the steps,
And said to Duke Hwan:
"May I ask you, Lord,
What is this you are
Reading?"
[xiii. ro.]
The Duke said:
"The experts. The authorities."
And Phien asked:
"Alive or dead?"
"Dead a long time."
"Then," said the wheelwright,
"You are reading only
The dirt they left behind."
Then the Duke replied:
"What do you know about it?
You are only a wheelwright.
You had better give me a good explanation
Or else you must die."
The wheelwright said:
"Let us look at the affair
From my point of view.
When I make wheels
If I go easy, they fall apart,
If I am too rough, they do not fit.
If I am neither too easy nor too violent
They come out right. The work is what
I want it to be.
You cannot put this into words:
You just have to know how it is.
I cannot even tell my own son exactly how it is done,
And my own son cannot learn it from me.
So here I am, seventy years old,
Still making wheels!
The men of old
Took all they really knew
With them to the grave.
And so, Lord, what you are reading there
Is only the dirt they left behind them."

>> No.7759467

>>7759448
Thats the dumbest shit Ive read lately

>> No.7759475

>>7759448
He's not dead.
He's right behind me in my shelf.

>> No.7759482

>>7759467
Probably because what you read is not what was meant

>>7759475
What's behind you are pages and pages of symbols. Any meaning you infer from them is not isomorphic with the author's intent, nor is their representation of a thought isomorphic with the thought itself, nor is the thought isomorphic with the truth it's trying to convey through the limited means of language as symbolic logic etc.

Solipsism is

>> No.7759484

>>7759482
meme-tastic/10

>> No.7759669
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The best and brightest to have ever burned.

>> No.7759846

>>7758901
the Earl of Sandwich

>> No.7759853

>>7758901
the Earl of Fishnchips

>> No.7759910
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>>7759846
>>7759853
Are you being serious right now?

>> No.7759933

>>7758992
Same. Rational hedonism is the only true way to battle nihilism. I'm still hoping one day they find a cache with all of his lost works.

>> No.7759958
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>mfw other philosophers can't conceive of difference in itself

>> No.7759964
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7759964

An understated titan of twentieth century literature.

>> No.7759985
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>> No.7760004

>>7759985
Fool

>> No.7760007

>>7760004
Genius. Look how easy it is to throw out words family.

>> No.7760024

>>7760007
You know you're a fool but you just don't care.

>> No.7760071
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Say what you will, but this man faced opposition with respect, kindness, and understanding, never had harsh or hurtful words, respected and encouraged others, believed that all people had worth, and managed to see the best in everyone. Some will joke, but nobody can, honestly, claim that he wasn't a truly good person and nobody can doubt his sincerity.

He was, clearly, an intelligent man and always appeared content. We can all stand to learn a lesson from Mr. Rogers.

>> No.7760077

>>7760024
You are just oblivious to the truth. Hopefully you will wake up as you mature family.

>> No.7760081

>>7760071
He presented himself with the demeanour of a beta and a C U C K!

>> No.7761002
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I'm basically him

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>> No.7761056

>>7759933
Me too, but I'm glad we got the core of it down. He's one of the few philosophers whose lifestyle advice holds up well in the frame of the contemporary secular science focussed state of affairs.

>> No.7761080

>spiritual
lol

>> No.7761573

>>7761080
Must I take you as a "free spirit"?

>> No.7761630
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>>7761080
Problem?

>> No.7761994
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He sneaks in everywhere.

I'm trying to gelassen.

>> No.7762003
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>> No.7762017

>>7762003
Hume is our Politics, Hume is our Trade, Hume is our Philosophy, Hume is our Religion.

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>>7758901
Has and always will be(writing poems for ladies feet)

>> No.7762056
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>>7758901
Easy.

>> No.7762064

>>7758901
My Medieval philosophy prof t b h

Guy is Austrian nobility and spent a year of grad school under Bertrand Russell. Consistently changes how I view the world and was the catalyst for my conversion to Christianity

I think he may have known Wittgenstein but I'm too nervous to ask

>> No.7762094

>>7762064
Have you posted about him here before? Sounds familiar.

>> No.7762121

>>7762064
Launch out, anon. Who is this guy; how was he the catalyst for your conversion.

>> No.7762200
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>> No.7762276

>>7759007
FUN FACT: Newton was a bit of a bastard and that quote is him talking shit.

>The quotation above was written by Isaac Newton as a backhanded insult directed squarely at Robert Hooke (1635-1702), with whom Newton carried on a life long, bitter rivalry. Newton used this quote in a letter responding to Hooke's claim that Newton stole the hypothesis on light from Hooke's "Micrographia". Newton was familiar with Micrographia and claimed that Hooke took much of the work from Descartes who - claimed Newton - took his work from Marcantonia de Dominis and Ariotto. The comment was very likely intended to be sarcastic as Hooke was a very short man, practically a midget.

>> No.7762281

>>7758901
That isn't Coleridge..

>> No.7762294
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>>7758901
Baconian faith in progress and techno-optimism is the true path.

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>>7761630
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idCil0mNhoo

>> No.7762401

>>7762294
Yes my friend!

>> No.7762599

>>7762094
Yes, referenced him in a few similar threads and I've been posting here for far too long

>>7762121
I can only describe him as a true intellectual giant, a man capable of expressing ineffable truth with a casual grace and good humor that makes his classes both invaluable and even entertaining.

He converted me slowly over the course of a couple of years in which I've taken as many upper level courses with him as possible, mostly philosophy (Islamic philosophy, Medieval philosophy, Philosophy of logic to name a few).

>> No.7762631
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there can be only One

>> No.7762791

>>7758901
I do like our boy Schopie. A rigorous system with parallels to Indian philosophy but completely palatable to western philosophical minds. Adaption and continuation of Kant's transcendental aesthetic. Inspiration to the arts.

If you agree in the fact-value distinction that his philosophical conclusions do not necessarily entail pessimism then you're probably gonna have a good time.

>> No.7762815

>>7761573
take my diiiiiiiiiiiiick

>> No.7762867
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>>7758901

>> No.7762873

>>7762867
pretend-enlightenment covering up crippling alcoholism and irresponsibility is your thing?

>> No.7762884

>>7762873

I do not use alcohol, also I'm not interested in his personal life. He could even fuck donkeys on daily basis and It wouldn't change anything for me. His thoughts are what really matters.

>> No.7762894
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>> No.7762959

>>7762873
Bodhisattva-tier enlightenment intermixed with a passion for boozing and women like the zen masters of old
>>7762884
>I'm not interested in his personal life
Too bad, he was an interesting person altogether. I remember Monica Furlong's biography contained some interesting episodes about him. Like when he tried to become a priest and then dropped it. How repressed his wife was, and how appalled she was at his 'perverseness'. How he made a bet with some doctors that he would take LSD from them and it wouldn't affect him a bit, and winning. How he told his daughter he would reincarnate as her own red haired daughter and then actually doing it, the absolute madman!

>> No.7763032

>>7762959
>Bodhisattva-tier enlightenment intermixed with a passion for boozing and women like the zen masters of old
Yeah, Alan Watts loved to stress how all the great masters were alcoholic deadbeat fathers like himself.

>> No.7763072
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>>7758901
Not just smarter than you, better than you.

>> No.7763112

>>7762959
>Bodhisattva-tier enlightenment intermixed with a passion for boozing and women

Not possible.

>like the zen masters of old

Lel.

Alan Watts is the John Green of spirituality. Absolutely pleb tier material.

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7763147

Not /lit/ related but definitely my spiritual master.

>> No.7763271

Marcus Aurelius.

>> No.7764409
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"There are questions which, once approached, either isolate you or kill you outright."

>> No.7764639

>>7762064
Sounds like he converted you to homophilia

>> No.7764650
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I wish I could be like him, even though I am not like him.

>> No.7764658

How do I look up to people /lit/? I don't care about anyone enough to follow them spiritually. Besides my Mum I guess. Every piece of work I've tried by people of great respect I usually enjoy, for the moment I am enjoying their work. Then the moment I put their book down, I forget about them.

>> No.7764659

>>7764409
based emilio

>> No.7764665

>>7764658
You're either too intelligent to be impressed by them or not intelligent enough. Statistically one would have to assume the later.

Which people of great respect have you read?

>> No.7764667

>>7764658
I think eventually you'll just come across a piece of work by someone and think 'Wow, this is amazing, the person that did this is amazing, I love him/her!'

>> No.7764673

>>7764658
I was sort of similar. I think the only two people I can genuinely think of in a respectful manner would be T.E. Lawrence and Hassan-i Sabbāh

>> No.7765217
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Diogenes

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>>7762894
>>7764409
Both are good, but this guy was best of both.

>> No.7765582

>>7765581
Don't ever post again.

>> No.7765603 [DELETED] 
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This man made me realize I can be happy living a simple, family oriented life.

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>>7758901

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>>7758901

>> No.7765629

>>7765603

A wise man indeed

>> No.7765633

>>7762276
Hooke was a cunt. He said Newton copied him then refused to show the work he supposedly had that was supposed to predate Newton's.
Newton had every right to talk shit.

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>>7758901

>> No.7765646

>>7762276

Manlet BTFO

When will they ever learn?

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>>7758901

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>>7765582
No. Grow up.

>> No.7765783

>>7765775
'No'.
You are so fucking stupid you can't even reply sensibly.
Your opinion is objectively wrong.

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Life is a spook

Almost everything is a spook besides my "creative nothingness"

>> No.7765906

>>7765783
>opinion is objectively wrong.
Lol.

>> No.7765938

>>7765217
crusties aren't concerned with virtue enough to be honest

>> No.7765963
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>> No.7765983

>>7762056
This desu

>> No.7766026
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>> No.7766053

>>7765872
Why do people post this shit without having actually read the work of Kasper Schmidt. He did not say: 'life is a spook.' He did not say: 'almost everything is a spook.' He did not say or imply or suggest or demonstrate that 'creative nothingness' is anyway similar to the specific set of concepts he determined to be spirits, or spooks.

>> No.7766184

>>7766053
They think its funny. His book is actually pretty good.

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>>7765963

>> No.7766920

>>7762276
I thank you dearly for telling me this.

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Haven't managed to go full Orthodox but I do think that his point of view is an invaluable counterpoint to the prevailing hopelessness that seems to be presently on fashion.

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who else? Even imagining his existence is overwhelming

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>>7762200
great paintings, crotchety-old-man philosophy
It's still cool to see him posted on an English speaking forum.

>> No.7767291

>>7759964
He's a hack

>> No.7767296

>>7761002
You're not my favorite writer because he's not a faggot like you.

>> No.7767326

>>7767215
anyone who doesn't choose shakey is a fokkn retahd

"If you prick us do we not bleed? If you tickle us do we not laugh? If you poison us do we not die? And if you wrong us shall we not revenge?"

>> No.7767354
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Você veja...

>> No.7767373

>>7758901
>Post your intellectual master-mind ITT
>Laugh at others who think they've got it all figured out by themselves.

But isn't it equally laughable to have an "intellectual mastermind"? Either way, we're going to come off as pretty pretentious

Mine is >>7767185 btw

>> No.7767473

>>7767354
Não é o meu, mas gosto do Olavão.

>> No.7767515

>>7767354
>>7767473
>feto na pepsi
>astrologia
>refutou Einstein
>combustível fóssil não existe
>refutou Newton
>refutou Darwin

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>> No.7767537

>>7767354
patrício

>> No.7767539
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>> No.7767623

>>7767473
>>7767354
>>>/pol/

>> No.7767652

>>7767623
k

>> No.7767715

>>7763147
Who is this?

>> No.7768025

>>7766491

He's a hack on par with Bill Nye. Post again when he's done some real work instead of being just another liberal talking head.

>> No.7768039

>>7759482
yet two people reading something will often come to the same conclusion and act as if the information that they've receieved has been the same

>> No.7768056

>>7767291

no u

>> No.7768066

>>7767539
Jesus never did this

"All religions teach the same thing" meme needs to die

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>>7767715
Tarkovsky

>> No.7768494

Franz Kafka

Anyone who likes him should read his Zurau aphorisms. Blinding insight...

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>>7759958
>>7759964
>>7761994
>>7762003
>>7762894
>>7763147
>>7764409
>>7765656
>>7765872
patrish tbqh


Say what you will about modern art, this man was one of the most subtle and witty minds to ever grace this planet

>> No.7769707

>>7768066
Are you saying Jesus never sat and contemplated anything? He could even be praying

>> No.7769713

>>7768066

Psalm 1:1-3

How blessed is the man who does not walk in the counsel of the wicked, Nor stand in the path of sinners, Nor sit in the seat of scoffers! But his delight is in the law of the LORD, And in His law he meditates day and night. He will be like a tree firmly planted by streams of water, Which yields its fruit in its season And its leaf does not wither; And in whatever he does, he prospers.
Psalm 19:14


Let the words of my mouth and the meditation of my heart Be acceptable in Your sight, O LORD, my rock and my Redeemer.
Psalm 104:34


Let my meditation be pleasing to Him; As for me, I shall be glad in the LORD.
Philippians 4:8


Finally, brethren, whatever is true, whatever is honorable, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is of good repute, if there is any excellence and if anything worthy of praise, dwell on these things.

>> No.7769777

http://youtu.be/dzm8kTIj_0M