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I was reading Soumission and a character said that it's a pity right wing Europeans are against Islam because they literally want to impose the same conservative values.

What do you think of that?

>> No.7371431

I choose not to

>> No.7371432

p accurate

>> No.7371433

>>7371428
Go to bed, Bill Maher.

But yeah, pretty much.

>> No.7371434

>>7371428
I think that's a bit of an exaggeration.

>> No.7371454

>>7371428
that's only his analysis of the 'merkel problem'

>> No.7371627

it's a cop out used by the left
I mean if they actually believed it maybe they'd start criticising Islam

>> No.7371649

>>7371627
Which would make logical sense since Islam is the most conservative religion; it's the natural enemy of the left. I once considered myself liberal—in a lot of ways I still do—but so many liberals are completely fucking retarded when it comes to Islam. They don't even recognize that the religion, in its essence, is an enemy of progressivism and liberalism.

My favorite part is that whenever I start criticizing Islam there are people who come out of the woodwork and make statements along the lines of "Well Christianity isn't any better," or "Christians kill people too," as if they automatically assume that by critiquing Islam I must be a Christian, which I'm not. Who gives a shit if another religious group commits atrocities? What attenuating influence does that have on the actions of Muslims? It's still fucking ridiculous, it makes no difference if it's Christians or Muslims.

>> No.7371650

The main difference is that European conservatives don't want to share their countries with bunch of muslim darkies.

>> No.7371655

>>7371627
No, because leftists only care about undermining majority values. It's not that they have any real soft spot in their heart for Muslims (or blacks, or other minorities), it just doesn't further their agenda to go after Muslims because Muslims don't run the country.

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>>7371428
If European right wingers had any balls, they'd follow the example of Based Guénon.

>> No.7371757

>>7371669
Jobic already has some guy who tried to imply that Islam should be welcomed, but not arabs. He was excommunicated from the party shortly after.

>> No.7371857

The left encourages immigration because it solidifies their voting block. They do not realise that this is only the case until minorities are numerous enough to elect their own representatives though. If they had any sense they would fight islamisation with all they've got.

>> No.7372210

>>7371655
>>No, because leftists only care about undermining majority values.
and undermining majority values out of boredom.

>> No.7372366

>>7371428
Sounds like he went full Alain Soral.

>> No.7372368

>>7371428
It's a pity Republicans are against Mexicans because literally hold the same conservative values.

But the Clintons found a solution to that - Donald!

>> No.7372373

>>7371428
But muslims are deluded Satan worshipers that value the carnal and material in order to fuel their war machine, all of which are in direct conflict with my Christian values.

Not that I don't have internal contradictions I struggle with as far as the harmony of my politics and my moral convictions.

>> No.7372377

>>7371669
Waterhead looking motherfucker

>> No.7372380

>>7371428
Here's a right wing conservative value:
I want what is best for my people and I want this land ot be for my people

from the perspective of right wing Europeans, muslim illegal immigrants from across the Mediterranean obviously are not their people.

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>>7371669
Sufism is snowflake tier. Sunni is true submission to God.

>> No.7372386

>>7372380
>nationalism
>conservative

What are you trying to conserve, 1930s modernism?

>> No.7372564

>>7372368
Not even a third of Mexicans hold conservative values.

>> No.7372566

Anyone else read his NYT article? Seemed like he shat it out in an afternoon. Fucking sucked.

>> No.7372616

>>7372566
>le more democracy is the answer

I was disappointed as well. Although we do have the infrastructure for direct democracy with modern technology.

>> No.7372621

>>7372616
Terrible idea, can you imagine having to worry about elections being hacked?

>> No.7372624

>>7372616
>democracy

I want this meme to die

>> No.7372679

>>7372621
Can you imagine elections being fixed anyway?

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>the french still havent figured out atheist right wing, although they were responsible for the materialist branch of philosophy
stay decadent, brahs. fugg, you guys are slow.

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>> No.7373038

If that were true, why would lefties be FOR Islam?

>> No.7373103

>>7373038
Career politicians!!!!

>> No.7373107

what book of his should I read if I want to check this ugly fucker's fiction out

seems like The Elementary Particles is the most generally agreed on but yell at me if that's a bad choice please

>> No.7373124

>>7373107

His ugliness is the reason I haven't read any of his works.

>> No.7373129

>>7372693
In the novel, Le Pen lost exactly because Generation Identaire didn't want the radical catholics to fight with them.

>> No.7373146

>>7371669
I have been increasingly of the opinion that a pan-european ethno-emirate under a global islamic state is the only way to go if the white race is to survive this century.

>> No.7373163

>>7373124
It's the reason you SHOULD read his work. Pretty people are far less likely to write good literature because suffering throws people into introspection / trying to understand the human condition and produces the drive to express it artistically.

>> No.7373178

>>7371857
/pol/
Left has humanistic values, that's why they are for welcoming refugees fleeing from daesh.

>> No.7373188

>>7372386
He said my people, not my nation. Pretty shit reading comprehension for some one who browses a reading board senpai.

>> No.7373225

>>7373188
A nation is pretty much a people, lad.

>> No.7374475

they want to conservate different things

>> No.7374506

>>7373178
>Left has humanistic values
wew lad
if they had humanistic values they wouldn't be trying to actively destroy Europe