/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.7358544]

>tfw uni tries to monopolize your intellectual life by fulfullin it, at your best age to learn shit, with mixture of leftist propaganda and pointless practical group works, with peeps only worried about gettin their degree, which castrate any posibility of debate or thought development

[Anonymous No.7358558]

>ywn go to university in the 15th century
>ywn experience an academic atmosphere where professors are at the forefront of internationally-significant theological debates

[Anonymous No.7358561]

How much leftist propaganda have you been exposed to? Any examples? I go to big university in canada and can only think of one or two classes that were politically questionable.

Is student indoctrination just a meme or is it real? I'm honestly just curious.

[Anonymous No.7358566]

>>7358544

what uni?

[Anonymous No.7358569]

I love it when reactionaries confuse academic study for leftist propaganda

>woooo social constructs!!!
>spooky critical ideas!!!!
>not taking everything written at face value fuuuuuuuck!!!!!!!!!!!
>MAYBE YOU'RE WRONG?? 100% SPOOKY CITY!!!

[Anonymous No.7358573]

>>7358569
>social construct
-leftist propaganda
>critical theory
-leftist propaganda
>poststructuralism
-leftist propaganda
>anyone who disagrees is 'reactionary'
-leftist propaganda

[Anonymous No.7358579]

>>7358573
None of those are inherently "Leftist" (whatever that means).

>implying Nazis aren't openly reactionary

[Anonymous No.7358583]

>>7358561
depends on the course
I study political economy and it has a very heavy left bias, but I wouldn't call it 'propaganda'
>>7358569
I don't know how anyone could look at the current state of American universities and think there isn't something seriously wrong with the politics there

[Anonymous No.7358587]

>>7358579
There are strong secular arguments for conservative values. For example, when people are sexually incontinent and divorces are no-fault, the family unit implodes and the children of the next generation become feral criminals who sponge off the system. Inheritance is eliminated and the middle class is destroyed. Gays have no stake in the future and tend to promote promiscuity and perversion to indulge their bottomless sexual appetites, and this attitude spreads to straights who then have dysfunctional promiscuous families.

So, it makes sense to not celebrate deviancy because it lowers our standard of living and leads to wealth inequality. But will you hear these arguments from professors? Never.

[Anonymous No.7358592]

>>7358587
>But will you hear these arguments from professors? Never.

>Why did Rome fall?
>Homosexual decadence, of course.

Read more and stop whining that people who are smarter than you think your ideas are full of shit

[Anonymous No.7358595]

>>7358583
>I don't know how anyone could look at the current state of American universities and think there isn't something seriously wrong with the politics there

Well most people don't have Sargon of Akkad as their primary news source. Some people are actually involved in research and critical inquiry and don't have time to trawl 4chan and youtube comment sections

[Anonymous No.7358601]

>>7358595
come on man don't be silly

[Anonymous No.7358605]

>>7358569
Nah, it's more like spending English Culture classes on debating gender issues on an indian movie, reading aboriginal poems or "Real Women Have Curves" by Josefina Lopez, debating on relationship between race and poverty... of course, not a single word about actual english language writers. And yeah, teacher cursed Gender Studies.

[Anonymous No.7358611]

>>7358579
>nazis are openly reactionary
You ain't know shit about fascim and nazism, aight son?
Not even a fascist but kek

[Anonymous No.7358613]

>>7358566
>Spanish province uni
Plebbest of the plebs

[Anonymous No.7358618]

>>7358544
>I vaguely disagree with everything being thought to me but cannot formulate specific objections without authority figures to give me talking points, so I'm going to criticize the entire system because I can't effectively criticize anything else

[Anonymous No.7358619]

>>7358561
>english professor evangelised against gamergate
>partisan outbursts about current political events
>class on literary theory covers most theory dispassionately, but panders to majority female class with petulant, uncritical asides about "mansplaining" "manspreading" "patriarchy" etc.
>"english is a very capacious subject" - ie. i can use my position to talk about whatever i want
>professors seem to take weird glee in digging up sexual innuendo in texts...

I could go on, but it would only expose my bitterness moreso.

I'm glad I got to experience what an English major is like. But I have very mixed feelings about the state of English Departments and the study of literature.

[Anonymous No.7358622]

>>7358618
*taught

[Anonymous No.7358624]

>>7358587
Wow, those are some hot opinions that aren't backed by any fact or study

Hint: the point of post-modernism was teaching people like you not to think your limited, asinine observations make up the entirety of reality

[Anonymous No.7358639]

>>7358619
>professors seem to take weird glee in digging up sexual innuendo in texts...
I had a political economy lecturer that did this
kept talking about "penetrating the market" being phallogocentric, no one could tell if he was serious

[Anonymous No.7358647]

>>7358544

>castrate

Triggered by male-centric language; check your privilege.

>>7358619

Manspreading and the focus on it is one of those phenomenons that make me question my sanity and view of reality. How something so blatantly ridiculous can be taken seriously makes me wonder about Poe's law, and whether it's all a big joke I'm not getting.

[Anonymous No.7358650]

>>7358647
>Manspreading and the focus on it is one of those phenomenons that make me question my sanity and view of reality. How something so blatantly ridiculous can be taken seriously makes me wonder about Poe's law, and whether it's all a big joke I'm not getting.

My thoughts on religion exactly

[Anonymous No.7358657]

>>7358561
>eng 70 (am retard): Indians are being discriminated against because baseball
>eng 101: feminism good
>his xxx: red pilled professor with a hot ass early 30 something blonde wife.
>art: professor criticized modern society for it's love of escaping reality, theme of humans having this tendency across time
>economics: no bias
>math: if you have one of the bag of the chip that worth 2.75 and you return the bag to store after eat 2/3rds the bag of the chips, how many of dollar are you to be get back. (Chink professor hardly speka the English)
>biology: abortion is good, constantly arguing with christ fag about when a child is___
>chemistry: we should ban smoking for all of eternity. I've got a phd and 157 published papers and I can't even tell you a single chemical that makes up cigarettes
>physics: Stephen hawking is actually a puppet who's being controlled by aliens to leak information into our world.
>child development: make sure you never scold your child, it will hurt their feelings and could potentially turn them into serial killers
>incase there is an active shooter, we will break this window and jump 2 stories, breaking our legs is better than dying.
>gluten is bad
I tried working for the school library but they wanted me to spend 600 dollars to take classes that would make it so I could do my job in the library, which consisted of washing tables and chairs, putting books on shelves.
>oh but anon, you can still apply here :). Even though 6 of the other students applying have done the courses, it's a long application process so just incase any of them back out. How long is the application process? A month :).
>creative writing: (name of story where nigger gets opportunity to improve life but decides that the thug life chose him) is about an African American who's life of crime is because the white man pressuring him.

[Anonymous No.7358659]

>>7358647
Taken seriously by who?
Some tongue-in-cheek tumblr blogs?

It's people like you who blow everything out of proportion. In no way is 'manspreading' a critical concept in any academia anywhere. You just spew out garbage that you heard from youtube videos

Now there is a difference between recognising that something like 'manspreading' could exist, and it being somehow representative of contemporary academic culture.

[Anonymous No.7358663]

>7358619
>english professor evangelised against gamergate

Fucking lol. If you feel like GG should be taken seriously be anyone you don't belong anywhere near a place of serious academic study. Stick to jerking off and playing videogames

[Anonymous No.7358664]

>>7358659
>responding to the strawman

[Anonymous No.7358670]

>>7358657
Oh yeah and the Landwhale feminists that all decided to take a class together and yell at the professor about how womyn have been shown to lead and dominate men in tribes, and that society would be better if we didn't have republican ideals dictating womyn's roles in society. Ohhh YEah and that god damn movie Lincoln was criticized for not showing that blacks lead the civil war. And the god damn autists that are in every fucking class that just want to raise their hands and ask the teacher if they can teach the lesson. Like nigga you fucks shut the fuck up. Idgaf if you think i should know you started with the Greeks. Who the fuck didn't.

[Anonymous No.7358673]

>>7358587
These are completely baseless claims. Did you get this from /pol/?

[Anonymous No.7358679]

>>7358587
>But will you hear these arguments from professors? Never.

Gee, you're right! I'm sure it's all one big conspiracy by all academics to keep all these 100% correct ideas suppressed! We need to tell the sheeple about this!

[Anonymous No.7358681]

>>7358544
>not going to O X O N

Though tbf many colleges, as well as the student union and university body, are repulsively leftist.

[Anonymous No.7358682]

>>7358544
Everything I learned for the job I have now was self taught. Even without a degree, I earn $180k annually as a web developer. School and university (drop out) were utterly worthless for me. I'm so glad that I spent my free time learning outside of the curriculum.

10 years later (28) I still suffer from major lapses in depression and social anxiety because of my traumatic bullying related experiences at school. I wish I could have just stayed at home.

[Anonymous No.7358685]

>>7358681
student unions and politicians seriously need to be fucking culled
they are seriously the worst people you will ever meet

[Anonymous No.7358698]

>>7358544
>university
>leftist
lmao

Universities I've been to have been as "left-wing" as Hillary Clinton. If people can honestly call fucking George Soros a "Leftist", then the word "Leftist" has lost all meaning

[Anonymous No.7358706]

>>7358682
I'm sorry m8. School does get better, it turns out that you just have to go for a phd.

Solid approval on the self-taught webdev stuff though, that's the move.

[Anonymous No.7358710]

>>7358682
>I earn $180k annually as a web developer

And I'm DFW

[Anonymous No.7358714]

>>7358710
How's heaven?

[Anonymous No.7358715]

>>7358706
Thanks for the support! Yeah, some of my best friends are PhD students, we always have great discussions. I've thought about going back to university but it wouldn't change much financially and I can just read on my own. I'm currently working my way through the Greeks.

[Anonymous No.7358718]

>>7358685
>Wanting people dead for their beliefs
I am sure you must be such a saint

[Anonymous No.7358721]

>>7358569
And not only that, half of that is "reactionary anon comes up with bullshit story, other reactionary anon assumes it's real and flips out". It's all an incestuous Internet echo chamber.

leftist academia is a meme

[Anonymous No.7358762]

Honestly what's wrong with having an academia that cares more about social issues than banal shit like 'hurr class shakespeare'? Surely the issues that margninalized groups face are far more important than discussing things that are barely relevant to them?

Most of you are just whining 'cause uni isn't catered to you personally. I doubt many of you are even majors, mostly just /pol/ trolls.

[Anonymous No.7358774]

>>7358762
Hello fellow Eurofriend, unlike European universities which are basically something you attend so you don't have to get a job American universities and qualifications are actually taken quite seriously.

[Anonymous No.7358825]

>>7358639
I had a writing prof say that to call an influential text "seminal" is sexist/patriarchal

Could not believe it

[Anonymous No.7358905]

>>7358611
>implying contemporary Nazis don't have an obscene fascination with Julius Evola and neopagan mysticism

[Anonymous No.7358920]

>>7358579
"There was another threat, one springing from the quality of the Gauleiters [regional leader in the Third Reich], which I felt had to be headed off. For they saw the devastation of the cities as an opportunity to tear down historic buildings which to them had little meaning. Instances of this tendency of thers were all too common. One day, for example, I was sitting on a roof terrace with the Gauleiter of Essen looking out over the ruins after a heavy air raid. He commented casually that now the Cathedral of Essen could be torn down entirely, since bombing had damaged it anyhow and it was only a hindrance to modernization of the city. The Mayor of Mannheim appealed to me for help to prevent the demolition of the burned-out Mannheim Castle and the National Theater. From Stuttgart, I heard that the burned palace there was also to be torn down at the orders of the local Gauleiter.

The reasoning in all these cases was the same: Away with the castles and churches; after the war we'll build our own monuments! In part this impulse sprang from the feeling of inferiority toward the past that the party bigwigs had. But there was another element in this feeling as one of the Gaulieters explained when he was justifying his demolition order to me: Castles and churches of the past were citadels of reaction that stood in the way of our revolution."
-Albert Speer, Inside the Third Reich

Nazis were revolutionary/progressive and strictly against reaction. Read Freirich Reck's 'Diary of a Man in Despair' to find out what actual reactonaries thought about the Nazi party at the time.

[Anonymous No.7358987]

>>7358619
>>7358647
What is manspreading? No results on UD

[Anonymous No.7358990]

>>7358774
>American universities and qualifications are actually taken quite seriously.
ahahaha

[Anonymous No.7358995]

>>7358987
When men oppress strong independent womyn by sitting with their legs to widely on the subway/bus.

[Anonymous No.7359004]

>>7358995
I'm serious anon, I've never heard this term before, what does it really mean?

>>7358579
>>7358920
Yeah general historic consensus is that the NSDAP was revolutionary, not reactionary. Check out Stanley Payne's doorstopper on fascism if you're interested in the interwar era. I can't speak for contemporary Nazi/neo-Nazi groups however as I do not know enough about them.

[Anonymous No.7359009]

>>7358990
>mfw British and American universities dominate the rankings
>German Universities nowhere to be seen
Muh free education

[Anonymous No.7359011]

>>7358718
don't take things so literally

[Anonymous No.7359012]

>>7358544
DUDE I'M SO WEIGHED DOWN BY THE STRESS OF COLLEGE DEBT AND MY FAT GIRLFRIEND WHICH I'M TERRIFIED OF LEAVING ME BECAUSE I'M DESPERATE FOR ANY VALIDATION WHATSOEVER SLEEPING WITH OTHER MEN THAT I SPENT MY WHOLE DAY OFF SLEEPING.

I'M ALSO SO THOROUGHLY EMASCULATED AND TERRIFIED OF THE REPERCUSSIONS OF EXPRESSING MYSELF THAT I WISH I WAS BLACK.

BY THE WAY WHITES ARE HORRIBLE AND EUROPE NEEDS TO WILLINGLY DESTROY THEIR WELFARE STATES AND CULTURES IN ORDER TO REPENT FOR THE IMAGINARY ILLS OF COLONIALISM LMAO

t. every modern male college student

[Anonymous No.7359015]

>>7359004
>"Manspreading, or man-sitting, is the practice of sitting in public transport with legs wide apart, thereby covering more than one seat."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manspreading

[Anonymous No.7359017]

>>7359009
What do university rankings have to do with "taking academics seriously"?

Americans finish university after the BSc, you guys can't even afford a proper degree

[Anonymous No.7359021]

>>7359015
I actually do this unironically to establish dominance

[Anonymous No.7359022]

>>7359012
>COLLEGE DEBT
Despite what Leddit would have you believe most Students aren't worried about college debts and aren't $500k in the red.

[Anonymous No.7359026]

>>7358762
because they're academia and not politicians???????
and that process your describing often involves heavy censorship and has resulted in the shit going on at Mizzou and Yale

[Anonymous No.7359028]

>>7359017
>Americans finish university after the BSc
Where are you from? Because it's exactly the same way in Europe, everybody and their dog has and finishes with a BSc.

[Anonymous No.7359033]

>>7358561
At uoft I have had to take a postcolonial literature course and a Canadian lit course (which emphasized Aboriginal literature and also covered some very weak pomo lit). But that's not so bad.

The thing that's a little worse is the tone of the discussion in general, and the canon is sometimes pushed out a little bit in favour of unexceptional literature. In one course on the 18th century and the end of the 17th, we had to cut Cowper because we didn't have time for him, but we did have time to read Aphra Behn, Phillis Wheatley, Equiano, Mary Wortley Montagu, Mary Rowlandson, Eliza Haywood, Wollstonecraft, Mary Collier... And this is not to complain about Austen, because you can't very well omit her from such a course.

which is all fine I guess, but I'm not sure it wouldn't have been better to read Robert Burns (curiously absent) or the aforementioned Cowper.

[Anonymous No.7359034]

>>7359022
DUDE I'M SO SCARED, BORED AND WITHOUT ANY POSITIVE MASCULINE REINFORCEMENT WHATSOEVER THAT I'M AN EMPTY HUSK IN A BEARD AN OVERPRICED SHIRT AND BEANIE WITH SOME SORT OF UGLY TRADITIONAL TATTOO, A MARKER SIGNIFYING OWNERSHIP LIKE OF CATTLE OR A SLAVE IN MOST CULTURES.

MY HOBBIES INCLUDE DRINKING EXPENSIVE BEER I DON'T REALLY LIKE, SMOKING WEED, CARING A LOT ABOUT CHILDRENS CARTOONS I WATCH ON NETFLIX, GOING TO THE GYM TWICE A WEEK AND ACTIVISM IN ORDER TO DESTROY WHITE MEN LIKE MYSELF

[Anonymous No.7359036]

>>7359034

[Anonymous No.7359037]

>>7359021
I actually do this unironically because when you have a ballsack it's more comfortable to sit with your legs apart.

[Anonymous No.7359038]

>>7359015
Oh my god you were srs

Is this really an issue though? I don't live in a city with public transport so I really don't know. Do women really complain about this? I mean, I don't have an enormous shlong and I can't sit with my legs squeezed together, it suffocates the organs. They can't be serious, right?

[Anonymous No.7359040]

>>7359034
...what?

[Anonymous No.7359046]

>>7359038
You'd look like a fucking douchebag deliberately sitting to take up two seats. It's not a feminism thing if I want to sit the fuck down after working 9 hours close your fucking legs

[Anonymous No.7359049]

>>7359012
>>7359034
hey Sam

[Anonymous No.7359067]

>>7359040
This is my experience with other males (I'm deliberately avoiding the use of the word men) my age when I attended higher education.

[Anonymous No.7359076]

>>7359067
Oh ok. Is 28 too old for grad school?

[Anonymous No.7359086]

>>7359012
it's true all i do is sleep and read and occasionally fuck. was there something else i was supposed to be doing? meh

[Anonymous No.7359091]

>>7359076
Depends on your purpose of going to grad school.

The problem with most of these sub-males is a lack of purpose, conviction and self-confidence.

[Anonymous No.7359093]

>>7359067
sounds like resentiment to me

[Anonymous No.7359096]

>>7359091
Carol refers to them as 'men without chests'. My undergrad is in English, and that's only good for continuing higher education, but I'm not sure if I just wanna go to end up teaching somewhere.

[Anonymous No.7359099]

>>7359096
*Lewis. I'm autistic

[Anonymous No.7359104]

>>7359046
I torment wage slaves like you on purpose.
I only leave my house once a day, at 17:05 to take the bus. I then sit next to a wage slave, take up as much space I can and make sure to have really bad BO and rub my snot stained pants with his leg, bumping into him and farting the whole ride. I take great pleasure in doing this

[Anonymous No.7359107]

>>7359096
Make a decision for your future then act on it.

[Anonymous No.7359108]

>>7359104

To what end? This seems masochistic as much as sadistic.

[Anonymous No.7359115]

>>7359108
The look of restraint on his face is what I do it for.
The look of a broken man who is too polite to put an insect like me in line.
I guess you can call it sadistic.

[Anonymous No.7359118]

>>7358682
>i earn $180k

sure

[Anonymous No.7359128]

>>7359115

What's the alternative? They tell you to fuck off, you say no, and then what? They beat you up and go to jail for it? It's a simple calculation. The cost of putting you in your place is far greater than the cost of putting up with you. What you're describing is called rationality.

[Anonymous No.7359131]

>>7359128
Thus confirming himself to be an emasculated, downtrodden and broken weakling.

[Anonymous No.7359132]

>>7359128
That's exactly what I like about it, their best option is to tolerate me or go stand after a long day at work.

[Anonymous No.7359144]

>>7359131
masculinity isnt about punching people in the face

[Anonymous No.7359145]

>>7359132

It still makes no sense. You're relying on another person's virtue to prevent them from exposing you to consequences for your actions. You're literally an Ayn Rand villain.

[Anonymous No.7359147]

>>7359144
Not being afraid to is.

[Anonymous No.7359151]

>>7359107
I teach special education now, and if I pursue a higher degree I can actually make career money, but idk if I want to be here forever. I told myself I wanted to be a professor, but professors don't exist anymore

[Anonymous No.7359153]

>>7359145
I'd welcome his fist, it would be the highlight of my month, perhaps even my year.
In this situation I cannot lose, either I get the smug joy of making a tired wage slave's day even worse or I get the thrill of a fight, the outcome is beneficial either way.

[Anonymous No.7359154]

>>7359147
punching out random people on the bus is nigger-tier antisocial behavior
there are more important things to do
like shitposting on the internet

[Anonymous No.7359163]

>>7359151
You have some decisions to make then, I decided not to pursue a masters, moved back home, then looked for and eventually got a job within my field.

I'm in a creative field too by the way, just so you know you're not getting advice from a STEM neo--serf.

[Anonymous No.7359167]

>>7359153

You could get shot or stabbed also. But since you've admitted your real goal is to break the will of the poor bastard you sit next to, you've also admitted that there's virtue in willpower.

I'm a diagnosed psychotic who carries a gun and I almost shot someone like you for chewing bubblegum once. The only thing that stopped me was the dragon in my head told me to resolve it differently.

[Anonymous No.7359178]

>>7359009
>believing in the university rankings

As a student in an elite American university, and having many friends from elite schools in South America, the American undergrads don't learn shit. Literally. They barely have classes.

>>7359012
>every male AMERICAN college student ever

[Anonymous No.7359180]

>>7359034
...and there goes all your credibility

[Anonymous No.7359192]

>>7358657
What king of dogshit university do you go to?

[Anonymous No.7359195]

>>7359178
>As a student in an elite American university, and having many friends from elite schools in South America, the American undergrads don't learn shit. Literally. They barely have classes.

It can't be as bad as Oxford here in the UK. We literally have one single-hour tutorial a week and maybe 1-2 classes.

It's actually pretty JUST

[Anonymous No.7359196]

I think the leftism inside modern universities do exist, but it's more exaggerated than it actually is (less exaggerated with ivy league unis). The modern millennial college student isn't going into some big evil indoctrination machine, they already enter it indoctrinated from the shit they watch on tv, read on the internet, etc. They listen to what they want to hear and ignore everything else. I think the real problem is that the faculty is too scared of any debate at all because they are terrified of losing their jobs.

[Anonymous No.7359204]

>>7359167
oi, thats not how you do that
you make ATM withdrawals at midnight

[Anonymous No.7359207]

>>7359167
I don't believe wage slaves have the balls to seriously injure me, I also make sure not to target some poor slave multiple times a week, as he might see that I'm doing it just to spite him.
Funny you mentioned being enraged about someone chewing gum, I nearly snapped at a a little girl who chewed disgustingly on her gum

[Anonymous No.7359210]

>>7359178
>>7359195
Typical auditorium in Germany.

[Anonymous No.7359211]

>>7359207
The unemployed are literal human garbage. You're the nigger of whatever race you are

[Anonymous No.7359213]

>>7359207
your a waste of space, why would anyone put the effort in hitting you?
thats a waste of a broken hand

[Anonymous No.7359214]

>>7359211
You know that I relish in comments like your right?
Both in real life and online, why do you continue to feed me this way?

[Anonymous No.7359218]

>>7359214
Nice rebuttal. Here's mine: You're unemployed

[Anonymous No.7359222]

>>7359213
I've come close multiple times, they usually stop when I start apologizing and pleading them not to hit me, they usually have my collar in you fists by then.
But what I know is that they'll be even more upset by my apologies, they'd love to vent their anger but I give them no opportunity to do so, they'll go home and go trough the experience a thousand times, thinking of ways to get back at me.

[Anonymous No.7359224]

>>7359222

You're sexually submissive aren't you?

[Anonymous No.7359226]

>>7359224
The last time I had sex was three years ago, I only partake in regular sex.
I do have a somewhat submissive fetish but I don't dare to partake in it.

[Anonymous No.7359227]

>>7359226

You should consider it. I suspect it would be healthy for you.

[Anonymous No.7359229]

>>7359222
im pretty sure theyll go on with their life

[Anonymous No.7359234]

>>7359227
Maybe so, but it's such an embarrassing thing I don't even consider it a realistic thing for me to do.
>>7359229
You haven't seen the look in their eyes.

[Anonymous No.7359240]

>>7359234

I know that feeling. It takes time to work through barriers, and you mind need to find a therapist to help you with it, which is a big first step in overcoming that inhibition. It's worth it though.

[Anonymous No.7359245]

>>7359240
>>7359234

go get a room and fuck already

[Anonymous No.7359252]

>>7358762
Some vague illusion of "quality" of what does and does not concern us has nothing to do with "relevance" and how much we can "relate" to it. Thats a fucking meme. It's where people go when they can't articulate why something does or does not appeal to them.

[Anonymous No.7359267]

>>7359234
Why do you choose not to work ?

[Anonymous No.7359278]

>>7358592
>>7358624
>>7358673
>>7358679
>redditor doesn't even make an effort to hide her samefagging

[Anonymous No.7359279]

>>7359267
Because I inherited a large sum of money when my father passed away, I can go without working for the rest of my life.

[Anonymous No.7359287]

>>7359279
Do you dress well, at least?

[Anonymous No.7359291]

>>7359287
I dress in what is comfortable which is usually some sweatpants and a sweater

[Anonymous No.7359293]

>>7359279
The freedom to do whatever you want terrifies me sometimes

[Anonymous No.7359296]

>>7359293
I was relatively normal before I dropped out of school (because of said inheritance)
Be careful what you wish for

[Anonymous No.7359309]

>>7359296
I take back my earlier insults, this us actually quite fascinating. Do you have a woman? Will you start a family? Do you write? What is there to strive for in your situation?

[Anonymous No.7359313]

>went to uni as turbo liberal
>got philosophy degree
>this kills all lib sentiments I ever had

feels good.

[Anonymous No.7359332]

>>7359309
I don't have a woman, I was never great with them but I had a few girlfriends. They all broke up with me because I never maintained the relationship, I always was a passive man, it increased ten fold without any goal in life I suppose.
>Will you start a family?
Maybe if I get my act together, I've been too comfortable for my own good lately. It was always my dream to have a wife and two children, but I don't see it happening any day soon.
>Do you write
I keep a journal, one of the few things I do to keep me sane, i don't think it's very interesting to read for other people, I get a kick out of reading things I've written years ago though.
>What is there to strive for in your situation?
The obvious, getting out of my funk and becoming a normal person again, but I wasn't satisfied with that when I was normal, it's why I decided to retreat. It is better than what I have now but it seems too far away, I don't think I can get out of this unscarred

[Anonymous No.7359343]

>>7359332
You fascinate me no homo

[Anonymous No.7359349]

>>7359313
If it's because you went communist I'm going to be very disappointed.

[Anonymous No.7359368]

>>7359195
This isn't true for all subjects or year groups.

Please don't spread misleading information here.

[Anonymous No.7359372]

>>7358595
Sargon is a really reasonable guy though. Slightly more extreme than Thunderf00t really

[Anonymous No.7359398]

>>7358544

>leftist propaganda
>group work

So glad I majored in Classics. There is none of that bullshit in Classics. If you're interested in literature/philosophy/history/politics/languages/religion/mythology/anything non-STEM you should just study Classics. The difficulty of the languages prevents the unworthy from lasting too long and it's such a vast field you can study pretty much anything you're interested in.

[Anonymous No.7359401]

MODERN ACADEMIA IS A JOKE

SAY AN EDUCATED PUBLIC IS IMPORTANT, CHARGE HUNDREDS OF DOLLARS TO GAIN ACCESS TO RESEARCH AND ARTICLES ALREADY FUNDED BY TAX DOLLARS

FOUNDED ON THE PRINCIPLE OF ACADEMIC FREEDOM, PASS AUTHORITARIAN GUIDELINES TO LIMIT FREEDOM OF SPEECH TO AVOID OFFENDING PEOPLE

SUPPOSED TO TEACH COMPLEX SUBJECTS TO YOUNG PEOPLE, COVER TOPICS LIKE MANSPREADING AND MANSPLAINING UNIRONICALLY

GO ON AND ON ABOUT HOW HATE SPEECH IS BAD, HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH HATE SPEECH AGAINST PEOPLE WHOSE OPINIONS YOU DON'T LIKE

SUPPOSED TO BE A TRANSITIONING PERIOD TO ADULTHOOD, TREATS ADULTS LIKE CHILDREN

[Anonymous No.7359418]

>>7358544
Because a majority of bachelor-degree holders vote Republican because of the sheer amount of effective Marxist propaganda about?

Yeah that seems legit

[Anonymous No.7359432]

My undergrad is in English. How fucked am I?

[Anonymous No.7359436]

>>7359432
extremely. If you're going into liberal arts at least study philosophy. English tends to suck on philosophy's dicks anyway

[Anonymous No.7359444]

>>7358561
Student indoctrination is just a meme in my experience, I've had about as many passive-agressively rightist professors as leftist ones. The only overtly political professor I had was an anarchist.
I can't help but feel that, when somebody starts arguing that education is a brainwashing scheme, it's functionally just forfeiting the argumen

[Anonymous No.7359448]

>>7358619
You are a stupid white person. You shouldn't post again.

[Anonymous No.7359450]

>>7359398
Is there no group work in Classics studies? I've been considering going back to university as a Classics major.

[Anonymous No.7359464]

>>7359313
>went to uni as a pot smoking libertarian atheist and 'progressive'
>hated religion for impeding the progress of science and equality
>very staunchly capitalist

>now I'm a Catholic and have much more nuanced views about property ownership and especially land ownership, and my politics are somewhere between high toryism and democratic socialism

>most importantly I stopped being a smug aesthete piece of shit

[Anonymous No.7359468]

>>7359436
What about pursuing a career in education?

[Anonymous No.7359472]

>mfw OP thinks universities spout "leftist propaganda"

I mean don't major in Marxist studies

[Anonymous No.7359480]

>>7359444
every university has its own right and left wing; but in my experience, in the northeast anyway, the left is very left, and the right is something like Harold Bloom. The average professor (of humanities anyhow; I won't speak for STEM, business, etc) is left-leaning.

[Anonymous No.7359488]

>>7358595
Kek this. Do some real research at a good school.

Most people at uni think the BLM people are loons and frankly don't give a damn

[Anonymous No.7359495]

>>7359488
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJAuVQlLxD0

[Anonymous No.7359504]

>>7359480
Might be the difference, I'm In STEM and like I said, I've only had one prof I'd call radical anything

[Anonymous No.7359553]

>>7359450

I never had to do any. In undergrad you're mostly doing work in the languages and writing essays. There was a study group which I did attend at times because Classics students are cool cats and it was an actual study group, not a group of people fiddling with their phones in the library.

[Anonymous No.7359556]

>>7359495
>Protesting anything in a library
Why

[Anonymous No.7359559]

>>7359556
Because black live matter, yo

[Anonymous No.7359560]

>group projects

[Anonymous No.7359566]

>>7359560
this

[Anonymous No.7359572]

>>7359560
Are you autistic? Group projects are really fun

[Anonymous No.7359576]

>>7359572
Bitch! I might be!

[Anonymous No.7359582]

>tfw 29 busywork dogshit assignments per day
>tfw discovering something that actually has to do with your thesis research and intellectual passions, and getting so excited that you could sit down and read the entire 600 page book right away without flagging
>tfw instead of that, you have to go spend 14 hours reading a dozen 20 page articles on shit that has nothing to do with you
>tfw instead of actually delving to the core of your interests so that you can produce interesting new ideas, you just drag your balls through the broken glass of a thousand "response papers" and "book presentations" on topics that have nothing to do with your field, let alone specialty

[Anonymous No.7359584]

>>7359480
>>7359480
>the left is very left, and the right is something like Harold Bloom
rofl

[Anonymous No.7359596]

>>7359368
As a current student I'm telling you that is 100% truth. What subject is significantly different from that?

[Anonymous No.7359605]

>>7358544
>leeds university

[Anonymous No.7359607]

>>7359464
you sound like a smug catholic

[Anonymous No.7359609]

>>7358544
Are you from Manchester? I am from Manchester

[Anonymous No.7359619]

>>7358657

You're really racist and seem like you don't understand the value of education.

They put that one month small effort barrier to entry up to screen people like you. People who think the ability to read all day when not working is tops will be more than willing to suffer through it to get the gains.

[Anonymous No.7359622]

I'm legitimately surprised so many people argue that academia doesn't have a strong leftist bias, It's a widely established fact and often used as a selling point by universities themselves.

[Anonymous No.7359633]

>>7358544
You go to a shit university, mate.

[Anonymous No.7359644]

>>7359607
I'm happy to be Catholic and I think other people would be, too. But I can't imagine myself being smug in the presence of the brilliant and (sadly) unitarian Coleridge, nor can I feel smug when I read some of the supremely good verse of that atheist Shelley, however much I may think he in some ways advanced the moral rot. Nor, if I hold that, can I claim to be more moral than he was—I am surely not.

This is not to say I am not sometimes still smug. I can be. It's a spiritual danger that one must always guard against. But at least I'm a little free from the "don't I have some right to be smug?" excuses that I used to make for myself. Now I must feel quite ashamed of myself when I roll my eyes at someone. It is a wonderful and awful feeling to really know that you are a miserable sinner.

[Anonymous No.7359651]

>>7359644
I thought this was like basic knowledge humans are both assholes and saints

[Anonymous No.7359656]

>>7359572
It 100% depends on who you get. I go to a big university so I don't know the people in my classes. If you get paired with airheads or people who think their ideas or the shit when they're not the process is insufferable.
I don't like my grade to hinge on someone else and it's not fair if something comes up and I can't pull my weight the other people should suffer.

I'm also generally choosy/an asshole and I only like certain types of people. I don't like 90% of group project partners I've had throughout the 5 years

[Anonymous No.7359662]

>>7359644
>It is a wonderful and awful feeling to really know that you are a miserable sinner

Slave morality: the post

[Anonymous No.7359722]

Course Introduction
Due to its history of immigration and emphasis on individuality, the USA is more overtly and self-consciously diverse than many other parts of the world. Even so, there is still a sense of mainstream culture, be it national, regional, religious, or popular, however complex and provisional. While this mainstream culture provides a sense of identity for many, it does not appeal to everyone, and a myriad of subcultures flourish. With digitally networked technologies constituting a ubiquitous part of life for many Americans, explicitly or implicitly, the bar for access to many of these groups has lowered. This does not mean, however, that all of these subcultures are broadly accepted, as many of them are deeply misunderstood by outsiders. This misunderstanding has lead to friction, fear, and bullying just to name a few of the problems faced by group members, particularly in certain regions (as Mary Gray explored in her book Out in the Country). The technologies of the digital age have drastically changed the way many of these groups appear to both insiders and outsiders, and have contributed to the formation of new groups. This course aims to shed light on these activities, both to increase our understanding of them on their own terms but also to increase our understanding of culture writ large. In the process, we often find that the marginal is not as new or alien as it may first appear.

[Anonymous No.7359726]

>>7359722
Course Description
The subcultures covered in this course are divided into three categories: Living, Dreaming, and Playing. Each category represents the theoretical framework for that part of the course. “Living” will cover swingers and Neo-pagan/New Age spirituality. These groups reject mainstream relationship templates of how people relate to one another and the universe. “Dreaming” looks at steampunk, Trekkies, comics, anime, and hackers. This category represents a reimagining of the past, present, and future of our society in ways that are artistic, activist, and subversive. “Playing” covers digital gaming, geek bars, live action role-playing (LARP), tabletop gaming, and cosplay (costume play). These groups are often more than hobbies to those involved, and participation requires specialized knowledge, vocabulary, and networks to which only insiders have access. What draws all of these categories together is that the people who partake of these activities identify themselves in part through this participation, while often also identifying themselves against mainstream culture.

[Anonymous No.7359768]

>>7358682
You're doing exceptionally well as a web dev. You must be very senior now or something.

Man I wish my career wasn't fucked right now.

[Anonymous No.7359787]

>>7359722
What piece of shit community college is this?

[Anonymous No.7359836]

>>7358762
>social issues
nice ideology you're pushing as fact friend

[Anonymous No.7359841]

>>7358561
It's a meme and a really shitty one.

[Anonymous No.7359846]

>>7358619
>english professor evangelised against gamergate
Yes, this is something that happened.

[Anonymous No.7359850]

>>7359279
you're living the dream friend
savor it for those of us who aren't

[Anonymous No.7359857]

>>7359495
the girl in the preview image is a product of incest

[Anonymous No.7359859]

>>7359722
>>7359726
Sounds interesting actually

[Anonymous No.7359869]

>>7359556
Because they're conscious enough to understand something needs to be done but not conscious enough to understand what, how, and when to do it. The answer is actually quite simple:
1) Get a job
2) Join the union
3) Kill your boss

[Anonymous No.7359880]

>>7359480
I'd much rather all the right be like Harold Bloom or William Buckley, but then I'm rudely reminded that the right is all about teabagging and wasting Latino social conservative votes now

[Anonymous No.7359884]

>>7359572
If you pick your group, sure

If not, I generally just get ready to do all the work by myself

[Anonymous No.7359896]

>>7359651
Ask anybody whether, if there is a just God and a heaven, they deserve to go there. The serious Christian will say, "No." The wishy-washy broad church type and the atheist alike will say, "Yes." (except for the silly atheist who insists he would rather not go there)

It is not, in any case, common knowledge.

[Anonymous No.7359901]

>>7359869
The real answer
>protest militarization of the police and change laws with that
>buy several guns
>protest gun ownership laws and curtail their selling
>stage a violent revolution and destroy the global capitalist system

[Anonymous No.7359929]

>>7359115.
I suggest you keep yourself from acting out these fantasies. You will only reduce yourself to the level of a toddler who thinks he's stronger for it when he manages to convince random strangers on the bus that he's a either a vagrant, retarded, or both.

The people on the bus will carry on living and go on to meet their friends and families while you whittle away your own self-control and fall deeper into isolation.

[Anonymous No.7359930]

>>7359619
>hey guys, I tried baiting for the first time XD ebin wicked brehs

[Anonymous No.7359976]

It is important to note that the leftist indoctrination doesn't happen in the university through coercion; the process is way more subtle and natural than that. Anything that is openly extremist moves away most people. Then, it is not that the raging commies and the radical feminists -- even if they do exist inside the university -- are the ones who make college students leftists, but the leftist who appears "reasonable" and who makes lefists issues seem to be "normal" as well.

The difference between right and left is not only between opinions over political issues; but over focus on what is important and what is not. Political rhetoric, sadly, hides this very well. Accusing the Right of biggotry serves well the Left, but biggotry is not their main cause. Put simply, The Right does not think that Racism is an urgent issue in comparison with other problems.

Then, what is necessary to make someone liberal is to create an enviroment where the leftist claims are exposed and discussed. They do not need to be forced into the students, they simply need to be there while the Right ones are not. Racism needs to be mentioned, but National Debt needs not. LGBT issues need to show up, but increasing divorcing rate and marriage instability don't.

[Anonymous No.7360048]

>>7359622
I've noticed this too.

They boast about being progressive and then they say "stop with your ridiculous conspiracy theories" when you say they are progressive.

Kind of reminds me of when Biden made a speech praising jews for their prominent role in pushing gay marriage in the mainstream media. That caused quite a stir.

[Anonymous No.7360058]

>>7360048
UCLA literally advertised their English lit courses with "No shakespare required; Gender, Race and Ethnicity lit instead!"

[Anonymous No.7360085]

>>7358920
A big chunk of the original Nazis were Marxists who thought national socialism was only an intermediary step that was leading to communism. Ernst Rohm and the Strasserites all thought "the real revolution was yet to come" but they were purged when Hitler compromised with the capitalists instead.

[Anonymous No.7360096]

>>7359929
Jokes on you, I was just pretending to be the embodiment of /r9k/

[Anonymous No.7360206]

>>7359582
I feel this so much, Anon. I hope this shit doesn't happen in grad school.

[Anonymous No.7360222]

>>7360085
Backing Hitler because you support Communism is a pretty stupid move. In the 20s Germany had the 2nd largest communist party in Europe (after USSR duh). Why not just join the actual communists?

[Anonymous No.7360285]

So do literature classes seriously not talk about literature much at all? What's the point of the course?

[Anonymous No.7360327]

>>7359210
are those WOMEN in there? ew gross

[Anonymous No.7360358]

>>7360222
backing hitler was pretty good move if you wanted to live back then.

[Anonymous No.7360365]

>>7359722
>>7359726
we live in a strange and scary century

[Anonymous No.7360438]

>>7358561
"Student indoctrination." It's the students who bring the leftist propaganda to the classroom and force professors to play their game. The students don't need to be indoctrinated.

[Anonymous No.7360470]

>>7359976
>>7359976
It's just getting into a hazy area though. LGB people do deserve rights and T people should just be left alone to live out their fantasies w/out ridicule or praise. But you can't teach that marriages are a failure now because there's no causation, it's a huge # of factors. Are you really going to tell uni girls not to be sluts to have a lasting marriage?

There are books about racism they can teach, there aren't, as far as I know, any modern classics about the national debt and you wouldn't learn that outside econ.

I agree though it's literally just a lack of exposure to a balanced argument with a robust counter position that makes people hop on the train of these ideas.

[Anonymous No.7360528]

>>7359901
I like it anon

[Anonymous No.7360539]

>>7359582
This is the real struggle, not "muh margsits brainwashing".

[Anonymous No.7360566]

>>7358561
>have poetry class with rabidly, cringe-inducing anti-commie professor tomorrow
>misty poets are on the syllabus for tomorrow
hold me

[Anonymous No.7360688]

>>7360566
Anti commie prof? That's a keeper.

[Anonymous No.7360728]

>>7359976
Wow, this ought to be the dumbest thing I've read all week.

[Anonymous No.7360735]

>>7360222
Because he doesn't know what he's talking about

He's conflating communists with unionists

[Anonymous No.7360760]

>>7358561
It's a really stupid meme.

[Anonymous No.7360762]

>>7358561
I get the impression that the worse your school is the more overrun it is with junior professors clamoring over each other to call texts problematic because they are not really smart enough to engage with the actual ideas or place them within their own time.

I studied English at an Ivy, graduated 6 years ago, and got next to none of what people on 4chan would consider "propaganda." I never had a single professor talk about a feminist or Marxist reading of a text, or even use the word "privilege." But people who went to shittier schools (as well as people who have graduated more recently than me) seem to get more of that stuff. (Which I don't think is necessarily terrible if it's done right, but I would not have majored in English if that's all we did in every class.)

[Anonymous No.7360810]

>>7358583
>>7358619
>>7358657
>>7359033
>>7359444
>>7359841
>>7360438
>>7360566
>>7360760
>>7360762

Thanks for the responses Anons. It seems as though it depends a lot on the school, faculty, and class. I don't care that much about my fellow students opinions but I suppose they will make up the ranks of professors in the future. I hope they learn to moderate their more extreme impulses.

[Anonymous No.7360816]

I took economics. We never really debated, but the professor usually dismantled leftist arguments, never taught us leftist propaganda.
One professor completely dismantled the wage gap myth.

I can't say my friends in sociology and women studies escaped indoctrination. My best friends there constantly say their professor was "misrepresented" in the "Hjernevask" documentary without ever watching it.

[Anonymous No.7360822]

>>7360816
Also, my professor in ancient history constantly talk about Houellebecq and his latest book.

[Anonymous No.7360851]

>>7360816
>I took economics. We never really debated, but the professor usually dismantled leftist arguments, never taught us leftist propaganda.
Cute

[Anonymous No.7360867]

>>7360816
lol this is some 9/10 trolling desu

[Anonymous No.7360935]

>>7360762
Tell that to Yale. Or read the Harvard Crimson opinions

[Anonymous No.7361021]

I'm just in uni because my parents expect it and I don't want a job

[Anonymous No.7361304]

>>7361021

Ditto, getting anything out of it like an actual career is a bonus for me.

[Anonymous No.7361689]

>>7359210

sitting on the floor
disgusting

[Anonymous No.7361835]

>>7360528
>agrarian revolution when?

>>7360470
>>7360728
I hate this board

[Anonymous No.7362218]

>>7359846
Pic related from an Engineering ethics class
Not too hard to believe

[Anonymous No.7362224]

>>7358544
>fulfullin
>learn shit
>gettin
>peeps

You are human cancer with a lazy edge. Who talks like that?

[Anonymous No.7362240]

>>7362218
>9/11 in the background

[Anonymous No.7362325]

>>7358592
Homosexual decadence was probably a part of why it fell to be honest, it's also one of the reasons the Tsars in Russia got overthrown.

[Anonymous No.7362331]

>>7358721
>leftist academia is a meme

No one could be this delusional.

[Anonymous No.7362338]

One of my greatest mistakes was going to university.

[Anonymous No.7362350]

>>7362338
>all of the isms

[Anonymous No.7362354]

>>7362338
>>7362350
Baptism
Critisism
Ostracism
Circumcision
Modernism

[Anonymous No.7362356]

>>7362338
what about the -phobias?

[Anonymous No.7362357]

>>7362356
Like heterophobia?

[Anonymous No.7362559]

>>7362354

>Critisism

and they told me I was on /lit/

[Anonymous No.7362683]

>>7358673
This does make quite a bit of sense. Individualism can only stretch so far within the confines of society.

Alternatively, true peace with ones self and happiness can only be achieved by individualism. Telling society to fuck off

[Anonymous No.7362695]

>>7359343
>7358611
>>7359332
Post journals