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Ask a pure empiricist anything

>> No.7317184

>>7317146
Why? You don't exist in a physical form.

>> No.7317185

>>7317184
ideally

>> No.7317188

Can you justify "All knowledge comes from the senses" only with help of the senses?

>> No.7317196

>>7317146
Ask someone who knows only a cursory amount about hume anything

>> No.7317202

Why are you wearing a bag on your head?

>> No.7317204

have you seen the philosophy board?
>>>/his/

>> No.7317221

>>7317188
It seems self evident to me that all of my knowledge is the result of sensory experience

Any knowledge that isn't purely sensory is nothing but probable extrapolation at the risk of appealing to rationalism I'd reference Leibniz's notion of "false idea"

>> No.7317237

Does smoking cause cancer?

>> No.7317241

>>7317237
All signs point to probably

>> No.7317280

>>7317241
Please, fellow empiricist, answer me in more concrete terms. "Probably" is far too idealistic of a concept.

>> No.7317289

what should i get for dinner

>> No.7317306
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7317306

>>7317280
Unfortunately certain knowledge/truth unadulterated by the human experience is not conducive to our existence within a finite set of sensory experience

If you want pseudo-absolute knowledge then go study what we can affirm as probable within the frame of "human being existing at a certain time in a certain place" like the probable movement of natural bodies or certain empirically "proven" laws of physics

>>7317289
A nice truffle risotto

>> No.7318547

>>7317146
What are your thoughts on Berkeley?

What is the best refutation to rationalism youve come across?

>> No.7318553

how big is your cock?

>> No.7318561

I'd rather ask an... impuricist.

See what I did there? Do you get it?

>> No.7318582

>>7317146
What does the boundary between sensations and impressions consist of?

>> No.7318585

>>7318582
time and space, doi

>> No.7318603

>>7318585
But time and space are built up from relations between sensations, amirite? So you're defining impressions entirely in terms of sensations?

And that's not what I meant by boundary. Sensations and impression are differentiated in type by vividness and mutability, no? But aren't those things themselves concepts?

>> No.7318614

>>7318603
no, sensations exist within mentation, time and space underly mentation.

>> No.7318634

>>7318614
Wait, but I thought you believed that empirical content was the basis of all knowledge? But now you're positing a contentless mental field underlying all subjective and objective experience. Also, that would imply that sensations and impression aren't polar opposites and which would make it difficult to base one entirely off of the other.

>> No.7318635

is there any reason to believe I'm not the only living creature in the universe and you're all an illusion?

>> No.7318657

>>7318634
1. i'm not OP, i'm just a smartarse
2. space and time are literally everything
3. sensation and impressions sound like the same thing dog
4. I'm not positing a "contentless mental field" that sounds woo as fuck. I'm literally describing reality: space and time, and saying that all mental phenomena are de-facto composed of patterns in space and time. To me it sounds like you have things backward and assume that knowledge is the ground of being, whereas I say being is the ground of knowledge.

>> No.7318661

>>7318635
it's improbable.

>> No.7318667

>>7318661
In what model of the universe? The one the illusions tell me is real or the one I know is irrefutable (my own)?

>> No.7318672

>>7317221
Just because you want it to be so, doesn't mean it is.

>> No.7318717

>>7318667
In the simplest model of the universe.

thou shalt not multiply hypotheses without necessity.

>> No.7318730

>>7318635
Tautology arises and you can't speak of the world.

>> No.7318762

>>7318657
> sensation and impressions sound like the same thing dog

Sensation = sense data. Impression = concept abstracted from sense data. At least for a "pure empiricst".

>> No.7318766

>>7318762
What's doing the abstracting?

Apologies if Hume's already addressed this, I'm new to his shit

>> No.7318776

how come there's no ought

>> No.7318793

>>7318766
same, but I'll naively guess: Mind

>> No.7318800

>>7318776
when people say you ought to do something it's a power play, an attempt to control you.

hume's is/ought thing is a cheeky way to btfo moralizing prescriptivists who try to tell you what to do.

>> No.7318804

>>7318800
>rape is wrong
>don't tell me what to do moooom!!!

ah to be in high school again

>> No.7318811

>>7318766
He has the idea of "habit", or the automatic movement of conscious thought from one thing to another in predictable patterns. What is being moved or is doing the movement he simply calls "the mind" or "the mental world". He doesn't seem to want go very deep into that particular part his philosophy for some reason.

>> No.7318825

>>7318804
>he doesn't know the difference between proscribe and prescribe
there's no helping you

>> No.7318838

>>7318804
"rape is wrong" is just your opinion. you can try to turn this around on me by asking how i would feel if i were raped, but those would just be opinions too. reality doesnt care about your feelings. you may "feel" that the earth is flat, but in fact, it's not.

>> No.7318850

inb4 objective morality debate / shitflinging begins

>> No.7318972

>>7317146
I'm trying to convince my wife to get fucked by a black bull while I watch so that I can fully appreciate the perfection and supremacy of the African master race over the melanin deficient white beta male. Any advice on ways to be more persuasive with her?

>> No.7318979

>>7317306
Can you objectively prove that the truffle risotto is nice?

>> No.7318982

>>7318972
If you are so inferior, why not kill yourself

>> No.7318986

>>7317146
Tell me about Hume. Why does he wear the turban?

>> No.7319008

>>7318982
If i'm dead I can't admire the beauty of Jamal giving my woman what the white man can't.

>> No.7319042

How? It falls apart so easily.