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Science Fiction and Fantasy general Anonymous Mon Sep 21 22:02:50 2015 No.7145618 [Reply] [Original]

HEY DOL MERRY DOL edition

>Recommendations:
>Fantasy
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>What Fantasy and Sci-Fi are you reading right now?
>Who is the best demigod in /sff/?
>What are the best in-book songs and poems?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 21 22:50:09 2015 No.7145767 >Science Fiction and Fantasy general /lit/ - Literature

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 21 23:04:26 2015 No.7145807 >>7145767 Fine then. >literary Science Fiction and Fantasy general

Anonymous Tue Sep 22 01:23:41 2015 No.7146127
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what's a good novel or series similar to the matrix, lost, or homestuck that meshes science fiction, religion/mythology, heavy symbolism and pure convolution in order to create a work that is both endlessly entertaining and conceptually dense?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 07:13:38 2015 No.7146708 >>7145618 >What Fantasy and Sci-Fi are you reading right now? The last Dark Tower book >Who is the best demigod in /sff/? Kellhus >What are the best in-book songs and poems? Rains of Castamere I guess

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 07:43:24 2015 No.7146741 What's another fantasy book with compelling characters like in ASOIAF?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 10:22:44 2015 No.7147039 >>7146741 Abercrombie's First Law shit.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 10:31:15 2015 No.7147057 File: 3.06 MB, 1684x2309, pic279251.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7146127 Probably this.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 10:33:39 2015 No.7147061 >>7146127 Lord of Light

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 10:36:02 2015 No.7147071 >>7147061 I hated that book

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 10:44:06 2015 No.7147094 >>7146127 Hyperion/Fall of Hyperion

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 11:00:05 2015 No.7147153 >>7147071 Why?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 11:01:03 2015 No.7147159 >>7146127 Seconding both Dune and Lord of Light.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 11:08:26 2015 No.7147186 >What Fantasy and Sci-Fi are you reading right now? 4th Dark Tower book >Who is the best demigod in /sff/? Hoid >What are the best in-book songs and poems? My least favorite trope, I really dislike songs in books.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 11:22:37 2015 No.7147225 File: 272 KB, 795x1200, alloy_map_1_world-webres.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7147186 Do you think Hoid is the strongest dood in the Cosmere?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 11:29:07 2015 No.7147243 >>7147225 Sure why not? multiple investitures, world hopping, living multiple centuries (maybe?). He hasn't really proven it though.

Anonymous Tue Sep 22 11:38:50 2015 No.7147289
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>>7147243
Frost or Khriss could have either of those, too; granted, they might lack the motivation or interest in using the abilities and knowledge like he does.
He's actually been around for several millennia, since he was at the Shattering and all.

Anonymous Tue Sep 22 11:42:04 2015 No.7147298
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I want to write a good sci-fi / erotic / horror novel what themes do you guys feel I should explore ? I have a few backstories for characters and environments but some input would be nice.
Do you think a female PoV in such setting would be better?
Also dystopia or deepspace ?
What is non cookie-cutter scifi these days ?
Although as a male kind of hard to write in females into scifi.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 11:45:30 2015 No.7147308 >>7147298 What I mean is I want to write something that would pander to the Shades of Grey mass, yet be fucked up enough for the edgy mass , and be justifiable philosophically for the literary goodreads elite

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 15:22:12 2015 No.7147950 >>7147225 How do you decide power level in a world where everybody is a retardedly strong anime character?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 15:45:07 2015 No.7148030 >>7145767 Ok, we get it. You can go back to flipping burgers now.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 15:55:16 2015 No.7148060 >>7145618 >What are the best in-book songs and poems? Lay of Nimrodel

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 19:00:05 2015 No.7148741 Cannot let this die yet.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 19:56:14 2015 No.7148962 File: 32 KB, 309x475, Thomas Covenant.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7145618 Opinions? No spoilers please

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 20:43:16 2015 No.7149146 what's a good east-asian fantasy novel?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 20:48:17 2015 No.7149175 File: 107 KB, 640x413, amy's arm.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] What up

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 21:08:15 2015 No.7149240 >>7149175 that book was complete shit. the sequel was so much better

Anonymous Wed Sep 23 01:42:03 2015 No.7150034

>>7145618
Just finished Memory, Sorrow and Thorn by Tad Williams. Can't say I can take those two Anons' complaints very seriously, the ending was fine and a certain princess wasn't at all talented or tumblr-level independent.

>>7146708
>THE Dark Tower
Awww yis son, you're in for it now bud. Have you read it before? Are you liking it so far?

>>7146741
>>7147039
Yes. Also, what I just read.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 02:07:06 2015 No.7150081 >>7150034 I have to agree. I liked the ending as well.

Anonymous Wed Sep 23 02:29:54 2015 No.7150106

>>7148962
I started with Lord Foul's Bane (the first book in the first trilogy) when I was a kid, but after a certain scene, I put it away, as I REALLY disliked the main character because of it. I gave it a second try a year later, finished the trilogy, enjoyed some parts of it, but I didn't think it was great. Might give it another shot.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 03:46:49 2015 No.7150226 I finally managed to finish the wise man's fear. What a piece of thrash. Nothing happened except filler and fanservice for Mr selfinsert. I shoulda known better, especially after reading that retarded fairy part.

Anonymous Wed Sep 23 04:55:00 2015 No.7150261

I'm about to finish Words of Radiance and I have nothing to read afterwards. Stormlight is the only fantasy series I've read so far, so recommend me some good series that aren't 80 books long or standalone novels with a shitload of pages to keep me busy.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 10:52:39 2015 No.7150280 >>7147153 I just couldn't get into it. I guess because it was more separate stories than I would have liked. It just wasn't what I was expecting.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 10:52:57 2015 No.7150281 >>7145618 FRIENDLY REMINDER New Jim Butcher And Brandon Sanderson books out in a few days

Anonymous Wed Sep 23 11:06:19 2015 No.7150298

I grabbed the book Orphans of Chaos for a dime, is it worth it? No Spoilers please cause i'd actually like to read it.

Also, any good books about Angelic creatures fighting demons with moral quandaries or anything similar? Every time I try to look it up its more paranormal romance shit

Anonymous Wed Sep 23 11:12:28 2015 No.7150313
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Just finished this up yesterday, It was pretty good. Generally when a series has gone on for as long as this (Fools Quest is the 8th book now, isn't it?), they tend to have overstayed their welcome, but this series doesn't seem to suffer from that as much as a result of being broken up in to three distinct trilogies, rather than one long-running story.
The first trilogy is still the best, but I still like this one despite the fact that the author seems to have a lot of trouble writing characters as masculine as Fitz.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 11:19:53 2015 No.7150334 Just finished Shadow of the Torturer What the FUCK did I just read

Anonymous Wed Sep 23 11:49:21 2015 No.7150391

>>7145618
Just read The Name of the Wind and Wise Man's Fears (parts 1 and 2 of the Kingkiller Chronicles). Very much enjoyed it.

I like Rothfuss' almost scientific approach to everyday magic, which means that problems aren't solved by knowing just the right spell or having God's Magical Cufflinks. Kvothe actually has to be clever in solving his problems.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 12:30:01 2015 No.7150523 These threads have been progressively gotten worse as the influx of massive plebs has happened. Instead of discussing good authors more Sanderson and Rothfuss get spammed.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 12:51:16 2015 No.7150588 >>7150523 So post some good shit then faggot.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 12:55:27 2015 No.7150598 >>7150588 Tried talking about Solaris in the last thread, it didn't pick up. Read Cat's cradle, but I wouldn't call it good. Very reminiscent of other postmodern works like Valis and Pynchon and less interesting then either.

Anonymous Wed Sep 23 13:00:10 2015 No.7150620

>>7150598
The reason nobody is discussing that is because they're nearly a century old and everybody, their mother, their grandmother and maybe even their great grandmother have read them. And they've probably seen at least one of the movies, too. There is nothing to discuss.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 13:03:20 2015 No.7150630 >>7150620 Are you intentionally posting this retarded comments?

Anonymous Wed Sep 23 13:05:02 2015 No.7150637

Which race of Elves are the Mustard race in Arda?
While reading the Silmarillion first I was thinking the Noldor, because of the whole thing with the Silmaril, their knowledge and how gifted they were etc.
But their looks make it hard to compare them to Aryans, other than the house of Finarfin (correct me if I'm wrong, I get those names confused all the time)
Lookwise the Vanyar would be closer to Aryans, also Manwe and Varda liked the Vanyar best of all elves.
What does /lit/ think about this?
And what does /lit/ think about the whole "Numenor - Atlantis/Hyperborea; Dunedain - Aryan" thing?

Tl;dr who are the true aryans of arda?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 13:06:12 2015 No.7150639 >>7150630 Listen buddy, just because you're too up your own ass to talk about anything less than 50 years old doesn't make everything less than 50 years old bad.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 13:06:41 2015 No.7150641 >>7150637 Also: I don't want to hear about "real life aryans" or hitler or anything.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 13:07:51 2015 No.7150648 >>7150639 I even mentioned Valis which was written around 30-40 years ago which is relatively new. You have tg for Rothfuss, Erikson, Sanderson and other trash tier fantasy writers.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 13:09:49 2015 No.7150652 >>7150637 I can't really help since I'm not quite a Silmarillion scholar, but shouldn't it be somewhere on the internet if you just Google it?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 13:10:46 2015 No.7150657 File: 38 KB, 300x250, 1411985283225.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7150648 Way to prove my point, cunt. The only Sanderson books I've ever read at the last books of Wheel of Time years back fyi.

Anonymous Wed Sep 23 13:13:12 2015 No.7150663

>>7150652
I am terrible at googling, if anyone has links for a good discussion on the topic I'd appreciate it.
What I found so far is mainly people that are all "but tolkien said he hates nazis!!! he doesnt like allegories!!!!", but clearly races and racism DO play an important part in ME especially in the Silmarillion.
And since everyone on 4chan, especially /lit/ is a gentleman and a scholar I was thinking that I could get the best points for which race are the aryans here.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 13:16:23 2015 No.7150681 >>7150663 He doesn't have an Aryan race in that sense especially since he was specifically opposed to nat socialism. His races are parallels to how Christianity affects people, what we are and what we could be.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 13:19:28 2015 No.7150697 Fuck off back to >>>/v/ These threads are the cancer killing /lit/

Anonymous Wed Sep 23 13:19:53 2015 No.7150699

>>7150681
Yes and I also realise that he gave the races, especially the "perfect" ones great flaws (The Noldor turning against the Valar, the Dunedain hacking woods for boats all willy-nilly -tolkien loved trees) but which would come closest? Not only in regards to looks but also intelligence etc., what is the "superior" race taking into account their flaws.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 13:22:12 2015 No.7150707 >>7150699 Well the Elves are the most superior, but they don't work like an Aryan race at all.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 13:26:57 2015 No.7150715 >>7150707 Well but there are many Elves, which among them are the most superior? Also do you have evidence to that race being the greatest? If not what are in your eyes the points that set them above the others?

Anonymous Wed Sep 23 13:40:51 2015 No.7150761
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>>7147950
There aren't powerlevels yet, and not everybody is a "retardedly strong anime character". You should read some of the material you decide to form an opinion on.

Anonymous Wed Sep 23 14:13:24 2015 No.7150838

Can anyone point me towards some authors or series with a similar style to the Farseer trilogy? I like the introspective tone of the series, and the way Fitz, Verity and Burrich really stand out as truly masculine characters in a series that is otherwise written in a somewhat feminine way. It's not very common to find series that does that, let alone pulls it off so well. I also really like how low-key the series is in general. No enormous battles, no saving the world from cosmic horrors, just a guy doing what needs to be done to help his king and people.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 14:37:08 2015 No.7150904 >>7150106 That sounds exactly like my experience with it except I wasn't a kid then. Same scene, I imagine.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 14:42:34 2015 No.7150926 >>7150648 >30-40 years ago >relatively new wat

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 14:47:05 2015 No.7150936 >>7147950 >in a world where everybody is a retardedly strong anime character? Typical e/lit/ist, spouting shit when he hasn't read anything concerning the material he suppose to be bashing.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 15:27:10 2015 No.7151075 >>7150391 >liking magic systems Reminder that Dying Earth is the only series with a Magic System thats actually good

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 15:33:24 2015 No.7151093 >>7150761 And you should stay in r/books

Anonymous Wed Sep 23 15:35:35 2015 No.7151099

>>7145618

>What Fantasy and Sci-Fi are you reading right now?
Fire Watch by Connie Willis
The Once & Future King by T.H. White
The Complete Stories of Theodore Sturgeon
The Jewels of Aptor by Samuel R. Delany

>Who is the best demigod in /sff/?
Tough. I like Ember/Umber right now, because fuck Aslan.

>What are the best in-book songs and poems?
Delany always has good shit because he gets other people, like his ex-wife Marilyn Hacker to write them.

Anonymous Wed Sep 23 15:42:54 2015 No.7151123

>>7151075
Fuck that, what about Jonathan Strange & Mr. Norrell? That shit was awesome. It frames magic the way our world frames art: a thing mostly for anti-social narcissists who sit in dark rooms, drinking, bickering with other macho-nerds about the "correct" or "most ethical" way to interpret old texts by writers who actually LIVED the experience, and didn't concern themselves with "reflection." In literal - ie. non-literary context, magic is fucking hard to do, involves a ton of study, and often contradicts itself completely and it makes sense and it's great.

Lev Grossman tried to mimic it, and it didn't quite work out - not enough consistency. But it was still neat to see, especially in the 3rd book, when Quentin tries to build a universe.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 15:47:02 2015 No.7151135 >>7151099 > The Complete Stories of Theodore Sturgeon I haven't started these yet, but there's stuff on the shelf waiting. Where are you in the volumes and what do you think of what you've read?

Anonymous Wed Sep 23 15:49:59 2015 No.7151144

>>7150106
>>7150904

I imagine it's the scene where (spoiler alert!) he rapes the 16 year old nice girl who helps him and is merely curious and innocent.

It was pointed out in a thread that you are not supposed to like him. I knew that going it (it's the only thing I knew), so I kind of expected him to be somewhat unlikable.

I'd love to hear more opinions. I'm about to finish the first book I think, and I do imagine that I'll finish all three. I have the omnibus edition, so it feels like one book and I can't quit that.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 15:55:02 2015 No.7151157 >>7151144 I've read everything SRD has written except his mystery novels. He's one of my favourite writers, and Covenant is GOAT.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 16:41:00 2015 No.7151325 >>7150926 Literature has been with us for over 3000 years. Isn't 40 years very little in that sea of time?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 16:50:51 2015 No.7151367 >>7151325 SciFi wasn't and, while it's not always the case, at least some of it ages badly.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 18:59:13 2015 No.7151813 >>7149240 You read the sequel to a book you thought was shit?

Anonymous Wed Sep 23 19:22:13 2015 No.7151882
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>>7150697
>here at /lit/, we only read TRUE literature such as the works of Plato and Socrates or the teachings of Karl Marx. I, like the true intellectual I am, don't waste time on such "literature" that you call "fantasy" and "science-fiction." Truly, OP, you are of a philistine breed and I brush my collar towards you

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 20:48:41 2015 No.7152099 >>7151813 I read the sequel first by mistake

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 22:13:20 2015 No.7152335 >>7150334 The first chapter of a novel.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 22:25:23 2015 No.7152370 >>7151882 Woah is that picture from the next Sanderson book

Anonymous Wed Sep 23 22:28:56 2015 No.7152388

>>7150598
Holy shit Anon Thank you. I remembered what the book looked like but I couldn't put a name to it so no one knew what I was talking about when I said "I'm looking for an older book from the 60's with a black cover and a golden symbol in the upper right corner."

Now I know what to tell my book store.

Anonymous Wed Sep 23 22:42:13 2015 No.7152440
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>>7151882
>f-f-fuck those snobs, I just want to keep living in my parents' basement and be the cancer killing literature by using shit books as e-e-scapism
>sci-fi and fantasy are so EPIC
i just love reading the same shit in different colors over and over again
Only fedoras read sci-fi and fantasy, normal people don't read, and the educated read literature, leaving only aspie /v/ nerds to read sci-fi and fantasy.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 22:45:03 2015 No.7152448 >>7152440 So, do you have any sci-fi or fantasy recommendations?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 22:49:05 2015 No.7152459 >>7152440 Yep this thread is a waste of space. This could be a thread about shitposting about John Green or memeing about Pynchon!

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 22:52:19 2015 No.7152470 >>7150334 that last scene was fucked eh. i was likewljk fsdjlkdfjlkjdf;alskjklds;f when he said he recognized al-paca from the sarcophagus. i really like severian as a character. he's a really smart and sincere dude

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 22:52:54 2015 No.7152472 >>7152448 I'd recommend that all sci-fi and fantasy books be thrown in the trash. >>7152459 Even those threads are better than these. You're a manchild, deal with it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 22:53:47 2015 No.7152473 Stop replying to the people who are talking shit about your genre. Its shitposting designed to derail the thread. Discuss what you want, ignore what you dont. Its really simple.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 22:54:09 2015 No.7152474 >>7152472 Okay, thank you for your input.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 22:55:43 2015 No.7152479 Besides the Sandersonfags, these threads are hella comfy

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 23:00:10 2015 No.7152505 >>7152473 They put the effort into being jerks, the least I can do is respond. Their posts would go to waste otherwise.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 23:01:18 2015 No.7152511 Reading Count Zero Gibbons prose feels aggressively annoying >demigod of SF&F Wolfe? Ellison? Le Guin?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 23:04:51 2015 No.7152523 >>7152472 >accusing others of being a manchild when you're shitposting up a legitimate discussion thread because it discusses what you don't like

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 23:14:53 2015 No.7152551 >>7152505 >Their posts would go to waste otherwise. That's the most we can hope for honestly. Still reading Dune, halfway through. It's a pretty great book so far.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 23:19:34 2015 No.7152565 >>7152511 >Gibbons prose feels aggressively annoying git gud

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 23:39:46 2015 No.7152618 >>7152523 >legitimate discussion Not possible with genre fiction trash.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 23:58:02 2015 No.7152664 >>7152618 The genre trash of today is the Literary canon of the future.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 24 00:00:57 2015 No.7152674 Any of the Planet Stories reissues by Paizo worth reading?

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 24 00:01:11 2015 No.7152676 >>7152664 It's not, you're just an idiot for not knowing that the pulp fiction of yesteryear was forgotten to time, fucking pleb. What's next, comic books are the modern day equivalent of Greek myths?

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 24 00:01:28 2015 No.7152677 Anyone read Vicious by V.E. Schwab?

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 24 00:04:00 2015 No.7152687 File: 530 KB, 1589x1200, alloy_map_2_elendel_gray-webres.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7151093 I didn't visit that abhorrent website. Nice try.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 24 00:04:58 2015 No.7152690 >>7152676 >London, Chandler, Hammett, Lovecraft, Edgar Rice Burroughs >Forgotten to time

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 24 00:06:21 2015 No.7152698 >>7152690 Not part of the Western Canon, fuck off.

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>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 24 00:10:30 2015 No.7152711 >>7152705 >Library of America

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 24 00:10:48 2015 No.7152713 >>7152698 Reminder thay Romantic and Gothic lit was considered Schlock in the 18th and 19th centuries

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 24 00:12:26 2015 No.7152719 >>7152713 Not on the same level as genre-fiction garbage. Reminder that genre-fiction of today is the dime novel of yesterday.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 24 00:14:02 2015 No.7152726 >>7152719 Oh now it's the dime novel, since the pulp argument is utter shit.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 24 00:14:27 2015 No.7152729 >>7152726 They're one and the same, retard.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 24 00:15:39 2015 No.7152733 >>7152719 Dickens was published in installments in cheap newspapers. So what?

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 24 00:16:55 2015 No.7152739 >>7152729 You already got BTFO on le pulp so you shifted it and hoped no one noticed.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 24 00:17:30 2015 No.7152741 >>7152729 So who're you trying to impress? Think that qt in your 11th grade philosophy class will notice you because you read the Meme trilogy in class?

Anonymous Thu Sep 24 00:18:20 2015 No.7152745

>>7152733
That's a publishing form, not the quality of the literature itself.
>>7152739
>You already got BTFO
You wish
>>>/r/books
>>7152741
>So who're you trying to impress?
Nobody, I'm trying to improve the quality of this board.
Threads like these are the reason why we're being with so many /pol/tards and /v/ermin

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 24 00:21:42 2015 No.7152760 >>7152745 You realize /pol/ users usually convene in philosophy ans religion threads, right?

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 24 00:21:47 2015 No.7152761 >>7152745 >Threads like these are the reason why we're being with so many /pol/tards and /v/ermin Considering your lack of even a casual understanding of literary history I'd say you're one of them.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 24 00:22:59 2015 No.7152766 >>7152760 They feel welcome with their shit tastes because of these threads, /pol/tards love fantasy. >>7152761 >Considering your lack of even a casual understanding of literary history I'd say you're one of them. Nice try, but guess again.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 24 00:35:16 2015 No.7152804 >>7152664 STOP FEEDING THE TROLL.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 24 00:41:08 2015 No.7152821 >>7152804 Just because I'm calling you out on your manchild tastes doesn't mean I'm a troll. Go back to /r/books

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 24 01:04:42 2015 No.7152865 I like world building but I don't think I would be a good author. It's the little details that get me. Anyone else?

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 24 01:08:29 2015 No.7152877 >>7148962 Fantastic series, just finished the 9th book. Heard Donaldson's Gap Cycle was purdy good too.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 24 01:36:31 2015 No.7152972 diskworlds?

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 24 01:52:12 2015 No.7153020 >>7152877 It is, damn good. Highly recommended.

Anonymous Thu Sep 24 01:55:33 2015 No.7153029

>>7152472
Jesus. Fucking. Christ.

You are probably the most unfun person I have ever encountered in my six years on 4chan. Do you scoff when people order soda instead of tea? Do you become visibly flustered when your mom wants to watch TNT instead of the Smithsonian channel? Does a tear run down your fat, acne covered neckbeard when the cute girl at Caribou Coffee (because Starbucks is too casual) is discussing the latest episode of GoT instead of the works of Twain?

Go outside and get laid, faggot.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 24 01:58:59 2015 No.7153038 >>7153029 STOP FEEDING THE TROLL.

Anonymous Thu Sep 24 02:44:16 2015 No.7153143

>>7153029
Sorry I don't find vapid endeavours "fun", but keep on insinuating the myth that high-brow things can't be fun, which only new posters seem to do.
Also nice projection
>>7153038
I'm a troll because I'm calling you out on your shit taste?
Fuck off back to /r/books

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 24 03:31:55 2015 No.7153275 Are the rest of of the books after The Once and Future King worth reading?

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 24 03:40:01 2015 No.7153292 >>7152388 So which book was it? >>7152511 Gipson was a big letdown, it is a generic action movie with a cool language. Very underwhelming.

Anonymous Thu Sep 24 03:44:30 2015 No.7153297

>>7152745
>>7153143
It's true, Sanderson, Rothfuss and other shit tier fantasy is brining plebs to the board, but don't pretend you aren't the other cancer killing lit, a person who pretends to read only classics. It's funny because if you check out goodreads almost everyone with over 50 novels reads sf and those with 20 read only lit meme books.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 24 03:45:07 2015 No.7153299 >>7150761 They always go all out for the illustrations in Sanderson books.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 24 03:48:05 2015 No.7153302 >>7153297 It's better to only read a handful of good books rather than a boatload of bad books.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 24 03:51:43 2015 No.7153311 >>7153302 Sf has plenty of great books, I forgot to add that people who read sff also read plenty of classics, myself included.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 24 03:59:32 2015 No.7153318 >>7153311 >Sf has plenty of great books If they were good they wouldn't be labeled as genre-fiction, they would be literary fiction with genre settings and themes.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 24 04:04:04 2015 No.7153320 >>7153318 >equating marketing terms as a signifier of quality You're even more pleb than the other plebs in this pleb thread. And that's not an easy task.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 24 04:04:48 2015 No.7153321 >>7153318 Are you clinically retarded? You must know how many lit was published as pulp in its time, someone already pointed it out.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 24 04:06:45 2015 No.7153325 >>7153321 If he's retarded, at least he has an excuse. More likely he's trolling.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 24 04:08:08 2015 No.7153329 >>7153325 Yeah probably, getting baited too easily.

Anonymous Thu Sep 24 04:19:21 2015 No.7153349

>>7153320
Literary isn't a marketing term, retard.
>>7153321
>You must know how many lit was published as pulp in its time
And not all of it is confidently part of the Canon, and was nothing like how genre fiction is the same thing with each book, just with different names and details.
>>7153325
>>7153329
Fuck off, retards.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 24 06:21:47 2015 No.7153573 >>7153349 Literary is a marketing term you moron, it's called classics and it sells books. Also newer fiction is often described as a modern classic and similar so yes, you braindead memer, literary is a marketing term even for newer fiction.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 24 06:22:58 2015 No.7153581 >>7153573 >Literary is a marketing term you moron Literary means it has artistic merit, you fucking moron.

Anonymous Thu Sep 24 06:31:12 2015 No.7153603

>>7153581
It is also a marketing term used to sell books.
Try going to a library and read the blurb on some classics, it's a marketing term. I found the term literary on Farenheit 451 which has no actual literary merritt, and yet it was there, trying to sell me a book that's a sub par sf as a literary timelines classics.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 24 06:32:45 2015 No.7153609 >>7150034 >Awww yis son, you're in for it now bud. Have you read it before? No. >Are you liking it so far? It's aiight. Only about 300 pages in.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 24 06:34:47 2015 No.7153615 >>7153603 >It is also a marketing term used to sell books. Just because a bunch of marketers use it doesn't mean it's a meaningless term.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 24 06:38:56 2015 No.7153622 >>7153615 Ah so a marketing trick is only applicable to books you don't like?

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 24 06:39:42 2015 No.7153623 >>7149146 Moshui: The Books of Stone and Water by Daniel Fox is chinese as fuck. There's also Under Heaven by Guy Gavriel Kay. I haven't read it though.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 24 06:40:49 2015 No.7153625 >>7153622 How nice of you to put words in my mouth.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 24 06:42:03 2015 No.7153628 >>7153292 Solaris

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 24 06:42:28 2015 No.7153629 >>7152865 >Anyone else? Yes, I agree that you wouldn't be a good author.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 24 06:43:28 2015 No.7153630 >>7153318 >If they were good they wouldn't be labeled as genre-fiction, they would be literary fiction with genre settings and themes. >>7153625 Yes totally putting words in your mouth. You totally didn't dismiss sff because of marketing.

Anonymous Thu Sep 24 06:45:01 2015 No.7153634

>>7153630
How does that imply that I was talking about marketing terms?
Genre-fiction isn't a marketing term and I never implied that, you fucking retard.
I'm dismissing sci-fi because it's shit, terrible prose, overused tropes, and cookie-cutter characters.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 24 06:45:16 2015 No.7153635 >>7153630 Stop replying to this guy, you're ruining the thread.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 24 06:45:43 2015 No.7153636 >>7153634 So you've never read sf?

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 24 06:46:52 2015 No.7153640 >>7153636 I did back when I was in secondary school. >>7153635 Then take your thread to /r/books, the fact that it's a "general" already tells us the quality of the thread before it even has one reply.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 24 06:46:56 2015 No.7153641 >>7153635 Was taking a break from studying, getting baited is an easy way to pass the time.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 24 06:47:53 2015 No.7153642 >>7153641 It's bait because you're wrong? Okay retard

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 24 06:48:08 2015 No.7153643 >>7153628 It's a pretty great book, I'd say top 10 sff works.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 24 06:49:02 2015 No.7153646 >>7153641 If you know it's bait stop replying or make your own thread if you must.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 24 06:49:27 2015 No.7153648 >>7153646 Calling out your shit manchild tastes isn't bait.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 24 06:53:40 2015 No.7153657 >>7153646 The thread wasn't particularly active anyway. Plus silly retards don't visit every thread. But my break is over and I won't be replying to him any more.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 24 06:57:17 2015 No.7153671 >>7152479 I've never read Sanderson and have little interest in him, but what exactly makes him so bad? I've heard relatively good things, albeit from plebs.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 24 06:59:15 2015 No.7153675 >>7153657 Nice circle-jerk you have here.

Anonymous Thu Sep 24 09:08:02 2015 No.7153903

>>7153671

Sanderson's prose is functional at best. It does the job, but its not really a joy to read in the way other authors (like Zelazny) is.

He puts a lot of effort into his worlds and magic systems, which are cool and interesting for a bit, but he uses that to make up for deficiencies in storytelling, which is usually plodding.

He also has only a few character archetypes he trots out regularly, and their development leaves much to be desired.

I find him fun to read, but I don't really like discussing him because there's nothing to discuss, unless you're one of those weird people on his fan forum who try to extrapolate the struture of his Cosmere from the bare hints given in the novels.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 24 10:07:37 2015 No.7154031 Was thinking of going back to Moby Dick and Book of the Long Sun or starting something easier because I'm in the middle of some serious work so I decided to start Conan the Cimmerian. Anyone read it?

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 24 11:57:13 2015 No.7154287 File: 159 KB, 568x1023, image.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >he's still here >he's been actively monitoring the thread for nearly 24 hours Jesus.

Anonymous Thu Sep 24 12:13:23 2015 No.7154328

>>7154031
I guess Conan the Cimmerian is a volume containing some of Howard's short stories? There's volumes out there with all his stories, just get one those. The Complete Chronicles of Conan for instance. Either read the stories chronologically or in publishing order, either way is fine/fun :)

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 24 12:16:00 2015 No.7154334 File: 45 KB, 314x514, iotb3.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I love the Silmarillion. I read it once a year. I also read the classics. Read whatever makes you happy, kids. This is an interesting book.

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>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 24 12:17:46 2015 No.7154340 File: 33 KB, 335x499, 51284cxPAzL._SX333_BO1,204,203,200_[1].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7152474 Epic of Gilgamesh The Odyssey The Death of King Arthur

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 24 12:17:48 2015 No.7154341 File: 6 KB, 200x264, 9494.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Does Lovecraft count as science-fiction horror? Or just horror?

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>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 24 12:25:55 2015 No.7154359 File: 25 KB, 271x450, Jhereg.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I once read Desolation Angels in the same week I read a comic book. GASP SHOCK HORROR Oh, and I recommend these. Great, short reads. Gritty. Dark.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 24 12:54:46 2015 No.7154442 >>7154328 There are three volumes and this is the first. I'm content with 450 pages for a start as opposed to three times that.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 24 12:58:12 2015 No.7154454 >>7154341 Some of his later works were more Science Fiction, that's why some got published in Astounding.

Anonymous Thu Sep 24 13:09:19 2015 No.7154491

hey guys I have these sitting around on my desk, gonna read one of them next, tell me which is good

Bradbury - The Martian Chronicles
Weir - The Martian (downloaded a pdf to read before I saw the movie, or is it truly terrible?)
Robinson - 2312
Stephenson - Snow Crash
Gibson - Pattern Recognition
Heinlein - Stranger in a Strange Land
Le Guin - an omnibus with the first three Hainish Cycle novels (Rocannon's World, Planet of Exile, City of Illusions)

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 24 13:14:05 2015 No.7154502 >>7154491 Le Guin is probably the safest bet.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 24 13:39:54 2015 No.7154602 File: 261 KB, 795x1200, twok_sketchbook-3_shalebark-webres.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7153299 Yea. Glad he found an awesome illustrator.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 24 15:25:14 2015 No.7154909 >>7152674 pls respond

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 24 15:29:21 2015 No.7154917 What are some important pieces of proto-Fantasy from the Romantic and Gothic movements?

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 24 17:07:46 2015 No.7155273 >>7154287 see >>7153675

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 24 20:29:17 2015 No.7155918 >>7154031 Long Sun is great. Just stick with it.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 25 00:17:15 2015 No.7156578 >>7152674 Please respond

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 25 04:18:35 2015 No.7157203 >>7152709 what's about?

Anonymous Fri Sep 25 04:32:18 2015 No.7157214

I love Rocannon's World, but the Le Guin Hainish omnibus is not a good place to start if you havenn't read her yet, so avoid that.

Stranger in a Strange Land is also a potential dealbreaker if you're not already on board with Heinlein and his crazy ideas.

The rest are all pretty safe. The Martian is the most accessible, but if you're not into accessible, it might just piss you off.

So just read The Martian Chronicles. Snow Crash if you're into satire that might also secretly think the thing being satired is awesome (because it is). Robinson if you want more ambitious, Gibson if you like Gibson (that's probably his best book).

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 25 04:33:26 2015 No.7157216 >>7157214 is in response to: >>7154491

Anonymous Fri Sep 25 10:10:54 2015 No.7157772

Reading Shadow of the Torturer, currently in the botanic gardens.

Wtf is going on? Are the gardens preserving the past? Some kind of time travel?

I really liked the book until Severian met Agia, after that it became just weird with one strange event chasing the next.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 25 10:20:22 2015 No.7157803 >>7146127 >similar to the matrix Neuromancer, which is where the Wachovski brothers took the Matrix from.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 25 10:23:28 2015 No.7157812 >>7157803 >brothers

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 25 10:28:39 2015 No.7157830 >>7157772 It's a weird-ass book, and you should expect strangeness. This is, after all, Gene fucking Wolfe. But it's not always going to be on the botanic gardens level of strangeness.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 25 10:41:19 2015 No.7157871 >>7157812 You clearly can't rearrange the Y chromosome faggot.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 25 12:33:15 2015 No.7158114 Any settings with 'magical slum' sort of deals? Trying to write a story about how a world deals with a sudden overlap in planes that leaves a bunch of ayylien races stranded.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 25 13:45:14 2015 No.7158325 Any opinions on Clark Ashton Smith? The Dark Eidolon seems like a cool collection to read

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 25 13:54:10 2015 No.7158344 >>7157214 Le Guin is one of my favorite authors, I've read Disposessed, Left Hand, and all six Earthsea books. Thanks!

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 25 14:23:16 2015 No.7158462 >>7158325 I like him. I am not sure how /lit/ feels about him because fuck /lit/, not going to pay attention to a horde of NEETs opinions about anything, ever.

Anonymous Fri Sep 25 14:28:52 2015 No.7158487
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I'm 120 pages into A canticle for LeibowitzFrancis just go to New Rome and Leibowitz offically became a Saint,and it's fantastic.
I'm looking forward to the rest of the book.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 25 16:02:26 2015 No.7158822 >>7158487 I've recently read this and the rest of the book kinda flies by but it gives some cool context

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 25 16:17:33 2015 No.7158879 >>7158487 I enjoyed A Canticle for Leibowitz, but I was also disappointed by it. It was just a fun post-apocalyptic story with quite some religion thrown in, but nothing more than that.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 25 16:27:24 2015 No.7158920 >>7152099 >>7149240 The web version published in pieces on pwot while Wong was still recovering from his rape was way better.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 25 16:30:18 2015 No.7158933 >>7150298 >is it worth it? Fun ride, inferior to that author's Golden Age in every way, some really cool moments still.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 25 16:31:19 2015 No.7158938 >>7150334 Is it possible you had some presentiment of your future?

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 25 16:32:40 2015 No.7158944 >>7158938 Kek >>7158879 He makes some interesting points with saying every man is the image of God and a case against euthanasia.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 25 16:34:18 2015 No.7158950 >>7151099 >Aslan >demi

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 25 16:36:55 2015 No.7158962 Anyone here read any SF&F magazines? Was thinking of doing a free trial of Asimov's Science Fiction or Clarkesworld.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 25 16:39:07 2015 No.7158974 >>7154491 Hainish all the way. Read the omnibus, skip Left Hand and go on to Dispossessed, then go for the short stories.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 25 16:40:10 2015 No.7158979 >>7157830 Yes, sometimes it's going to be on the dwarf cavalry level of strangeness.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 25 17:27:57 2015 No.7159198 >>7158974 sorry, I probably should have specified (I'm >>7158344) have read those 2 Hainish books already

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 25 18:02:25 2015 No.7159327 >>7158962 second this, would like to know as well

Anonymous Fri Sep 25 18:22:09 2015 No.7159407
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>>7145618
>http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/4chanlit/images/a/a8/1307836551252.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20110612005642

Jesus that fantasy list is shit.

Only good ones are fritz lieber, jack vance, robert e howard, william goldman, lovecraft, clark ashton smith, poul anderson, roger zelazny, er eddison, lord dunsany, and david lindsay

sci fi list doesnt look to bad though

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 25 18:43:21 2015 No.7159474 File: 32 KB, 197x300, The_Girl_who_Leapt_Through_Time_English_edition[1].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Anyone read this? Is it good?

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 25 19:31:51 2015 No.7159649 >>7159198 Skip The Telling too, then. Can anyone tell me if Word for World is Forest isn't just Avatar?

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 25 21:10:38 2015 No.7160022 >>7154334 This. Read whatever the fuck you want. Talk about it as much as you want. Ignore the pretentious assoles that suck eachother off in /v/'s dark corners.

>>	[$$$ /HIS/ ALLIANCE $$$] Fri Sep 25 21:13:08 2015 No.7160029 >>7159474 Had a decent anime

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 26 08:08:09 2015 No.7161347 >>7158114 Mistborn

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 26 08:34:43 2015 No.7161394 >>7158114 Lies of Locke Lamora

Anonymous Sat Sep 26 08:43:49 2015 No.7161412
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I've been scanning through some of the stuff on goodreads looking for a time killer. I'm honestly surprised about how many series are out there that are straight up trash. I'm not even trying to be elitist, I can like trashy series, but 85% of this stuff is irredeemable. And they all have the same plot. Who writes this shit? Who BUYS it?

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 26 09:14:59 2015 No.7161466 >>7161412 ill give anything a go if it has a dark and mysterious vampire/angel/demon/faery/werewolf... etc. guy as the love interest

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 26 09:19:58 2015 No.7161479 >>7161412 It's the same with TV, music, basically any other form of entertainment. It's just how the world is, bro.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 26 09:39:58 2015 No.7161512 >>7152472 >>7152440 >>7150697 >being this pretentious Holy shit, man.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 26 11:45:31 2015 No.7161718 Any good shorter series/standalones with a shitload of pages per book to go through? Looking for what to read next and so far only the first law trilogy caught my eye but the first book is only 500 pages or so.

Anonymous Sat Sep 26 11:46:14 2015 No.7161721
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>>7147298
>I want to write a good sci-fi / erotic / horror novel
Noyce
>what themes do you guys feel I should explore ?
Individuality and gender surrender, refuse release, top/bottom yin/yang intermingling
>Do you think a female PoV in such setting would be better?
See last point
>Also dystopia or deepspace ?
Dystoutopian deeeeeeep speeeeess
>What is non cookie-cutter scifi these days ?
That which comes through the rips in the veil o'course
>Although as a male kind of hard to write in females into scifi
Listen, take a bunch of shrams or a handful drops of sauce, then listen to Hawkwind and Sabbath while watching torture and tranny porn, while browsing /d/ in another tab. Aslo, get out there and fuck some fucking people. You will not be able to write about sex properly unless you're living it, too

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 26 11:48:10 2015 No.7161728 >>7161512 >pretentious Nice misuse of that word, genre-fiction readers always like you almost always do.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 26 11:55:54 2015 No.7161743 >>7161721 >Individuality and gender surrender >refuse release >top/bottom yin/yang intermingling What the fuck are those supposed to mean? Nice music tho.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 26 12:10:03 2015 No.7161781 >>7161718 The First Law trilogy. IMO I think its very underrated. Long as fuck but it has a good pace. If you're a fan of heavy worldbuilding you might not like it though since Joe tends to avoid that.

Anonymous Sat Sep 26 12:13:58 2015 No.7161795
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>>7161743
>Individuality and gender surrender
Drug-aided sexual torture and mindbending suggestions that cause the subject to lose the concepts of individuality and gender, simply. Extreme hallucinatory body sex horror. Higher beings feeding.
>refuse release
Simply the release through the reversal of something initially refused, finally accepting the sexual invasion
>top/bottom yin/yang intermingling
Neither exists without the other. Switcheroo out the woo-hoo

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 26 12:14:16 2015 No.7161797 File: 806 KB, 1001x823, 1443114811614.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >Well, I'm back

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 26 12:15:00 2015 No.7161802 >>7161721 >>7161795 looking for something specific?

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 26 12:16:02 2015 No.7161805 File: 62 KB, 247x369, striner 139.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7161797 WELCOME BACK

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 26 12:18:07 2015 No.7161810 >>7161802 Just browsing :^)

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 26 12:23:52 2015 No.7161821 >>7161805 smh tbh (to be honest) fam

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 26 13:06:53 2015 No.7161951 I..Is snow crash worth reading?

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 26 13:10:32 2015 No.7161967 >>7161951 I'd say yes. It isn't super groundbreaking with its themes, but it's got fun characters and is a definite page turner. He writes action sequences really well.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 26 13:14:27 2015 No.7161980 >>7149240 backwards there. the first one was decently interesting. the second was just a bunch of spiders and running around and dead people because dead people are edgy

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 26 17:38:33 2015 No.7163047 >>7161951 Somewhat, yeah.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 26 17:39:12 2015 No.7163050 What are /sffg/'s favorite related solo novels? mine are: >the grace of kings >something more than night >the golem and the jinni >ready player one >world war Z

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 26 18:01:56 2015 No.7163149 >>7158962 Every now and then I pick up a copy of F&SF, it's a great big grab bag of (usually) new writers. Lots of variety. The nonfiction collumns are good.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 26 18:21:16 2015 No.7163214 File: 42 KB, 221x346, image.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Are these any good? Keep seeing this series hyped cause I guess they're making a show. Don't care if it isn't deep as long as it isn't corny/cliche.

Anonymous Sat Sep 26 18:24:30 2015 No.7163222

>>7158962
If you like short fiction and it's free you might as well. The magazines tend to be hit or miss but usually with a few hits at least. It's also cool to read authors who might get bigger in the future (although particularly with Asimov's and SF&F there are a lot of big names already).

I try to buy one a month or so. Sometimes you can find huge stacks of old ones at flea market or thrift stores. Analog is good too.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 26 19:15:20 2015 No.7163370 What's the best time travel novel made in the 50's?

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 26 19:37:08 2015 No.7163418 File: 6 KB, 203x240, 1438281535853.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >the main character is not the chosen one

Anonymous Sat Sep 26 19:39:03 2015 No.7163426
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Is anyone else upset that he never finished his Fall of Gondolin novel past that first fifty or so pages? It's a miracle we got the Lord of the Rings, and what we have of the Silmarillion is kind of a mess (in a good way though, there's something amazing there beneath the mess.)

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 26 21:50:11 2015 No.7163775 Grabbed Gardens of the Moon, what am I in for?

Anonymous Sat Sep 26 23:47:48 2015 No.7164156

>>7163775
confusion at the start but by the end, you'll kind of get the jist of what is happening. Pretty good battles, interesting characters and interesting lore. Get ready for the long haul though because there is a lot to get through in this series.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 27 00:25:55 2015 No.7164277 >>7164156 Worth the investment.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 27 01:15:34 2015 No.7164432 Is there any good pulpy straight-adventure fantasy written these days? Everything seems to be so long or trying too hard to be unique and/or dark and edgy. Sometimes I just want to sit back and read a quick, pulpy adventure like the old Conan stories.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 27 01:18:13 2015 No.7164440 File: 1.01 MB, 1338x886, Iron-Druid-Chronicles.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] What are your guilty pleasures guys? The terrible covers make them even better

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 27 01:27:33 2015 No.7164478 >>7164440 I read up to the seige of helheim before finally being too disgusted with myself to continue, and now I'm questioning whether I should pick up the next dresden files book when it comes out or cry in the shower and mourn my life choices

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 27 01:44:00 2015 No.7164529 >>7164432 Butcher and Correia are probably pulp's biggest spiritual successors. Although if you want straight adventure that takes itself seriously I can't help you.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 27 01:56:51 2015 No.7164558 >>7163426 Every. Single. Day. I love the Silmarillion and it pretty much ruined me on fantasy. Not a bad thing after years of reading tripe.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 27 02:04:14 2015 No.7164574 >>7164440 Star Trek novels written by William Shatner. They're enjoyably bizarre.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 27 05:05:48 2015 No.7164887 Are there any fantasy works that are anime as fuck? A lot of stuff seems to try too hard to be gritty. I want thirty foot long swords being used to surf down and escape erupting volcano-fortresses.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 27 05:25:20 2015 No.7164922 >>7164887 Conan

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 27 05:29:27 2015 No.7164926 >>7164440 he's hot af

Anonymous Sun Sep 27 05:59:57 2015 No.7164970

>>7163214

I read the first one and though it's way overhyped and the only reason it's popular is that one of the authors is a buddy with GRRM so he's in the "correct" clique. Don't get me wrong, it's readable but the characters (which the novel puts the main focus on) were unconvincing and the plot wasn't that great either.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 27 06:48:34 2015 No.7165029 >>7164887 Mistborn and Stormlight Archive have some pretty ridiculous moments and power battles. Malazan is basically the Dragon Ball Z of fantasy, but it's super violent and gritty.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 27 06:52:34 2015 No.7165036 >>7164887 Malazan is basically about power levels.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 27 07:03:31 2015 No.7165057 >>7164887 I guess I would try and see if there are any D&D novels in the Mystara setting, since most of Japanese Fantasy (in the western sense) is based on Mystara from Basic D&D.

Anonymous Sun Sep 27 08:41:01 2015 No.7165259

>>7152440
>i just love reading the same shit in different colors over and over again
Well we like to read a variety of books and genres and fantasy is one of those. Why do you have a problem with us not reading the same book over and over? That sounds like a bad thing.

« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !mxvabIoSIE Sun Sep 27 12:56:46 2015 No.7166009
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Need help.
I've been trying to recall all the books I've ever read and this one keep escaping me. It is, of course, a science fiction book.

The cover I read had a slight blonde girl perched on the shoulders of a centaur. Of course the story didn't center around these two, but the sort of every-man self insert who's motivation was to get back to Earth, even though it would be many years in the future. There were two other striking characters, a couple, man and woman, from Chile who had been in a plane crash and had their brains put into these squat egg-like droids with monitors of the faces they used to be.
It was a simplistic plot centering around space flight. What book is this?

>>	« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !mxvabIoSIE Sun Sep 27 14:34:37 2015 No.7166444 >>7166009 Correction! A slight blonde girl perched on the shoulders of a Minotaur

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 27 16:43:02 2015 No.7166899 NEW JIM BUTCHER OUT TUESDAY GET HYPED!

Anonymous Sun Sep 27 17:15:14 2015 No.7167041

>>7164440
I'm so fucking mad he put the series on hold to get some Stars Wars shit novel out.
>dropping your slightly original series to pick up something that has been meme'd to death
Fucking cunt

Also what is with the pretentious cunts coming up in here?
Go back to your frog [insert one word with greentext in OP here] threads.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 27 17:30:03 2015 No.7167101 >>7166899 Dresden or Furies?

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 27 17:45:41 2015 No.7167167 >>7167101 Cinder Spires New Series then new Sanderson next week Tuesday GET HYPED

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 27 17:54:31 2015 No.7167190 >>7146127 Snow Crash isn't exactly like that, but it's similar enough in vein that you should probably get something out of it.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 27 19:03:35 2015 No.7167530 >>7167190 Baroque Cycle is more like it if you can make it through Isaac Newton's childhood to the Prince of Vagabonds. Plus it's all based on historical fact. Even the alchemy.

Anonymous Sun Sep 27 19:18:05 2015 No.7167624

>>7165259
>Well we like to read a variety of books and genres and fantasy is one of those.
All genre-work is derivative.
>Why do you have a problem with us not reading the same book over and over? That sounds like a bad thing.
A book isn't worth reading if you're not going to reread it.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 27 19:43:31 2015 No.7167731 So how do you feel when Sci-Fi or Fantasy authors inject their sexual fetishes into their stories?

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 27 19:47:01 2015 No.7167747 >>7150699 >what is the "superior" race taking into account their flaws. Druedan. Only ones who didn't fall to the Enemy

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 27 19:59:07 2015 No.7167808 Is Urth of the New Sun worth reading?

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 27 22:32:36 2015 No.7168401 >>7167731 Please respond

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 27 22:59:36 2015 No.7168473 Is there such a thing as Dying Fantasy? I know Dying Earth is about the closest I'll get in this case but I'm just curious.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 27 23:01:49 2015 No.7168482 >>7167731 >>7168401 Scott Bakker has a rape/humiliation/cuck fetish that's a mix of weird and hot. It turns a lot of people from his books. Probably the most violent fantasy writer, makes Abercrombie look PG13

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 28 00:47:50 2015 No.7168919 >>7167808 Very much so.

Anonymous Mon Sep 28 03:57:31 2015 No.7169278

>>7167808
I'm on the fence about it. At some point I would like to sit down and write out how all the reveals in Urth were already given away in the subtext of New Sun. Though Urth is just as well written as any Wolfe novel, Urth seems to be his way of telling editors and dumb readers to fuck off. I've only read it once, so my opinion might be a little biased.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 28 06:09:44 2015 No.7169552 Update: Just finished the first part of the book. It was heartbraking. And looks like shit is about to go down in the next one.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 28 06:54:20 2015 No.7169626 >>7169552 Wat book

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 28 07:19:23 2015 No.7169665 >>7169552 Meant for >>7158487

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 28 07:21:29 2015 No.7169667 Is the Witcher books any good?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 28 07:34:53 2015 No.7169697 File: 596 KB, 1440x2433, IMG_20150922_173601.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7169626 A Canticle for Leibowitz. But I forgot to put the reply link there.

Anonymous Mon Sep 28 07:49:18 2015 No.7169722

>>7167808
Not very good honestly. It presents what we already knew from New Sun, but doesn't make it as interesting as you would think.

And it's all presented in a confusing fashion, so you still won't really understand why things happened beyond the fact that they did.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 28 10:08:55 2015 No.7169941 >>7169667 Blood of Elves is absolute shite, can't speak for the rest. Heard the short stories are better.

Anonymous Mon Sep 28 11:09:28 2015 No.7170074

>>7158962

You can read Clarkesworld for free, if I recall correctly. I download the podcasts and listen to them when running- it's kind of a mixed bag and I skip over a few, they do publish stories from some of the biggest SF names, but they're not always to my taste. The Magazine of Fantasy & Science Fiction publishes more traditional, coherent stories (Clarkesworld is more about the breathy Chinese astronauts and/or genderless alienish beings being sad and abstract) and has quite a bit of content, I subscribe to that and it works out at just under £2 an issue. Black Static is a decent horror/dark fantasy magazine now that Cemetery Dance appears to be dead.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 28 15:36:45 2015 No.7170938 >>7167731 It's a gamble. It works well if the reader shares your fetish at least somewhat. But backfires otherwise. I was put off from some books because of this.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 28 15:49:20 2015 No.7170980 >>7170938 I'm rereading Lord of the Rings because it occurred to me that as much as I love to go about them I haven't actually read them since I was 12 and the first movie was releasing.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 28 15:50:20 2015 No.7170982 >>7170980 Didn't mean to quote.

Anonymous Mon Sep 28 16:00:59 2015 No.7171011
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What's everyone's favorite urban fantasy/mystery series right now? Other than Dresden Files, that is. I like Esther Diamond, but her arbitrary skepticism is starting to wear thin four books in, and she's advancing that police detective's side plot WAY too slowly.

I'm only two books in right now, but I'm really liking October Daye so far, but I'm sure that's just because I have a weak spot for fairies.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 28 16:59:48 2015 No.7171248 >>7171011 Isn't Urban Fantasy a subgenre that's like, irredeemably shit?

Anonymous Mon Sep 28 17:07:14 2015 No.7171273

>>7171248
You're posting in the SFF general. 99 percent of everything in either genre is irredeemably shit. But I guess every group needs someone to look down on so they can feel better about themselves. I'm sure both the bronies and the SU crowd look at the other one and say "At least I'm not THAT bad."

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 28 18:14:33 2015 No.7171580 File: 81 KB, 750x500, mb03_symbols-webres.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7167167 I hope we find out ANY information about the Southern Scadrians.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 28 18:21:37 2015 No.7171620 File: 176 KB, 1415x542, wonk.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Will the Latro series ever be finished?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 28 18:28:24 2015 No.7171646 >>7171620 What is that last picture from?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 28 18:33:07 2015 No.7171668 >>7171646 Fucking Berserk mate.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 28 18:37:44 2015 No.7171684 >>7171668 >Berserk Thanks. I've only seen the movies, but I should have known.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 28 18:42:32 2015 No.7171704 File: 548 KB, 949x1549, IMG_1537.uploaded.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Any Fantasy novels based in a Renaissance like setting with a focus on warfare?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 29 01:56:04 2015 No.7172894 Anyone got the new Mountain of Daggers and Cinder Series series? link?

Anonymous Tue Sep 29 07:57:04 2015 No.7173586

>>7171011

It's not a genre I generally like, but I did finish Mike Carey's Felix Castor novels and enjoy them quite a bit. I've tried quite a few urban fantasy series and usually read the first book, maybe the second, and then get bored. If we can count comics, Hellblazer wins, though it has apparently gone to shit in recent years.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 29 08:07:25 2015 No.7173601 File: 161 KB, 1431x1560, iKakL7d.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Anyone found a copy of Butcher's "The Aeronaut’s Windlass" anywhere yet? I realize its only just out today.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 29 09:29:35 2015 No.7173766 Just finished "The Broken Sword" by Poul Anderson, it was fucking awesome and I loved it. That's all I really wanted to say. Thanks to whoever put it in that recommendations image.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 29 09:46:26 2015 No.7173806 >>7149175 If that's anything like the movie, it sucks and it's random for random's sake.

Anonymous Tue Sep 29 12:05:45 2015 No.7174159

Where do anons go to find out news and information?

What I am really after is news about possible translations of new Russian/Ukrainian books, I see them on Amazon in German and French versions already and English always seems to be trailing along and one of the last to be done.

Surely one of the biggest markets is just putting it into the English language because that then means the book can be shipped to the UK and North America?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 29 15:19:34 2015 No.7174915 >>7174159 Tor.com is pretty decent.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 29 16:01:09 2015 No.7175079 Is the Emperor series worth reading? I remember reading the first book around 10 years ago, and sadly can't remember much, is it worth picking the series?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 29 17:18:02 2015 No.7175438 Reminder that Sandersonfags need to get out.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 29 18:01:51 2015 No.7175656 File: 22 KB, 226x346, 51Omgf4bBkL._SY344_BO1,204,203,200_[1].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] just finished this trilogy bretty gud

Anonymous Tue Sep 29 18:10:39 2015 No.7175698
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>Edward Miller’s work is instantly recognisable, and graces the cover of many fantasy and SF books published in the last few decades. Miller, actually a pseudonym used by the prolific artist Les Edwards, painted the covers of the original UK editions of Perdido Street Station and The Scar; but while Pan Macmillan stopped using Miller’s art for all subsequent Miéville books, Miéville’s Czech publishers Laser Books knew that a unified look was worth sticking to.

>tfw publishers change cover art mid-series ;_;

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 29 23:28:35 2015 No.7176998 >>7145618 What would you recommend to someone who's never read Fantasy?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 29 23:42:20 2015 No.7177041 >>7176998 The Hobbit is the perfect starting point. Its a short, comfy read that'll keep you nice and happy. If you want something a little more visceral you should read Robert E. Howards Conan stories.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 29 23:59:59 2015 No.7177101 I want some Sci-Fi. Should I read The Demon Princes or Foundation?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 30 00:05:52 2015 No.7177117 >>7177041 What's weird is many of Howard's Conan stories are comfy in their own right. Maybe because of the pulp nature of it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 30 00:08:34 2015 No.7177123 >>7177101 read the first few books in the Foundation series and a couple robot books and drop Asimov pick up PKD

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 30 00:08:44 2015 No.7177127 >>7177117 Theres something about the stories that feels almost Hedonistic to me.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 30 00:25:39 2015 No.7177197 >>7150391 Ditto to that. Finished the second one last night in fact.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 30 06:37:15 2015 No.7178005 >>7169697 >reading translated books It's like you don't even want to enjoy your books

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 30 08:11:06 2015 No.7178146 File: 75 KB, 674x817, edited.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] what did he mean by this?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 30 08:14:13 2015 No.7178153 >>7171684 >movies My condolescence

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 30 08:50:25 2015 No.7178263 >>7154491 I'd say the Heinlein. Martian Chronicles disappointed me.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 30 08:55:37 2015 No.7178278 >>7178263 Actually scratch that, read 2312, Robinson is a god damn expert, and above poster is right that you could be easily freaked out by Stranger in a Strange Land if your not cool with Heinleins weird philosophy of Martian cuckoldry.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 30 08:59:35 2015 No.7178289 300 posts doesn't auto sage anymore?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 30 09:16:23 2015 No.7178321 >>7178289 i thought it was 600?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 30 10:29:36 2015 No.7178510 >>7178289 it is auto saging

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 30 12:38:18 2015 No.7178920 >>7145618 i read silo and ready player one, what to read next lit?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 30 12:49:30 2015 No.7178962 >>7178920 Dune.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 30 12:50:54 2015 No.7178972 >>7178962 maybe something more abscure?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 30 12:52:43 2015 No.7178977 >>7178972 You must read Dune at some point in your life, why not now? It has some pretty trippy moments.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 30 16:41:40 2015 No.7179897 >>7178972 Quantum Thief?

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