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Anonymous Mon Sep 21 04:34:23 2015 No.7142621 [Reply] [Original]

I want to know
What does /lit/ think about Zizek?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 21 04:35:38 2015 No.7142624 le sniff touch nose meme

Anonymous Mon Sep 21 04:44:46 2015 No.7142634
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>>7142621
One of the few intellectuals able to make the left in Europe really be a significant constructive force in the coming decades. See the chapter on reading hegel through marx and vice versa in Less than Nothing.

Anonymous Mon Sep 21 04:45:46 2015 No.7142636

I havent read any of his books and really doubt whether they are really worth reading.
I read some of his essays, and watched few of his lectures/interviews and perverts guide and I agree with him almost all the time.

I also like that he have no problem with misogynist jokes while being feminist.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 21 04:47:02 2015 No.7142639 >>7142636 has* smh

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 21 05:00:44 2015 No.7142652 Glad someone respects him. Chomskians tend to label him as a clown

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 21 05:12:49 2015 No.7142674 File: 191 KB, 387x501, 1442767890519.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7142621 I like how he's slowly turning into an authoritarian extremist as he gets older

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 21 05:14:49 2015 No.7142677 Pure ideology tbh

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 21 05:15:24 2015 No.7142680 >>7142674 He was always a Marxist-Leninist. The fact that he constantly worships the state is something that really puts me off him.

Anonymous Mon Sep 21 05:16:02 2015 No.7142681

>>7142634
>See the chapter on reading hegel through marx and vice versa in Less than Nothing.

Yeah, it ends up with him doing a freudian slip about how hegelian conservatism ala Singapore is also a reality that could win and is just as plausible(if not more) than new communism.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 21 05:17:22 2015 No.7142685 Right about pretty much everything. People dismiss him as le kung fu panda man but in a few decades he'll leave a pretty clear and sizable influence on a group of academics and writers

Anonymous Mon Sep 21 05:18:35 2015 No.7142690
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>>7142680
I think its an understandable position and certainly a somewhat realistic one. In an ideal situation id like to see people govern themselves, but if we're honest about it this seems less likely to happen as time goes on. People are getting dumber, not smarter, I think people 50-100-150 years ago would have been better at governing themselves

Anonymous Mon Sep 21 05:26:10 2015 No.7142697
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Anyone else think that you don't actually need to have read Lacan and Marx to understand Zizek. He basically wastes pages on explaining them in a more nuanced way. Hegel on the other hand is the same Hegel in Zizek as far as terminology goes.

I think reading Chesterton and The Bible(the figure of Paul mostly) is more important since he assumes the reader has almost expert knowledge of those and doesn't explain much why he engages them. There's also Wittgenstein he aproaches a lot and he implies you know him well.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 21 05:29:06 2015 No.7142700 File: 14 KB, 200x192, 1410654520001.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >philosophical superstar

Anonymous Mon Sep 21 05:29:37 2015 No.7142702

>>7142621
I live 5 blocks from his apartment, saw him in local supermarket a few times. He is employed on University of Ljubljana in their philosophical research department, and i heard from some professors that he doesn't do anything, pretty much just collects his pay. The university keeps him just because he is famous between contemporary philosophers. Which is extremly funny, because no one recognizes him on the streets.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 21 05:31:25 2015 No.7142705 >>7142702 Didn't he get like low 2 digit %-tage when he ran for for President?

Anonymous Mon Sep 21 05:33:49 2015 No.7142710
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>>7142702
>and i heard from some professors that he doesn't do anything, pretty much just collects his pay.

You mean apart from constantly writing new books, publishing articles for various media and traveling the world to give lectures? Sounds like those professors are just mad jelly

Anonymous Mon Sep 21 05:43:41 2015 No.7142723

>>7142710
heh, although you're right, i wouldn't be surprised if he does act like he's the motherfucking top alpha dog at the university there, with female students passing by his office once in a while to ask for clarification about Hegel's Absolute Spirit. When Zizek dies we will eventually be hearing all sorts of shit he used to do there.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 21 05:45:37 2015 No.7142726 >>7142723 remember he learned from the best: Parisian intellectuals

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 21 05:45:40 2015 No.7142727 >>7142674 he is trying to move away from authoritarianism as much as possible

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 21 05:47:41 2015 No.7142730 File: 505 KB, 1034x1600, 1436140444671.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7142726 yeah we all know how credible they are

Anonymous Mon Sep 21 05:48:54 2015 No.7142734

>>7142705
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slovenian_presidential_election,_1990

>>7142710
>>7142723
I meant that he never does anything for the university, almost all scheduled lectures are canceled, or replaced by a different lecturer in the last minute. In the last three years there I haven't seen him once inside the uni, he apparently comes in very rarely.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 21 05:49:29 2015 No.7142736 >>7142730 I meant apropos fucking students, having a cult status and son

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 21 05:56:03 2015 No.7142746 >>7142702 I imagine they just have him, so international students come to study there and those pay like atleast 4 times more in Balkan countries(and it's still cheaper than at their home country)

Anonymous Mon Sep 21 05:59:01 2015 No.7142752

>>7142702
>I live 5 blocks from his apartment
yeah well I live 4 blocks from his apartment and saw him in local supermarket much times. I heard from many professors that he does a lot and earns his pay. The university keeps him there because he is a hard worker.

Anonymous Mon Sep 21 05:59:22 2015 No.7142753

He give great movie recs

I am planning on watching this tonight

Frank D. Gilroy’s From Noon Till Three, a quite unique comedy Western from 1976,
deals with the same topic of the consequences of symbolic alienation. Here is a summary of
the plot, courtesy of Wikipedia: In the American West of the late nineteenth century,
Graham Dorsey (Charles Bronson), a member of a gang, is involved in a failed bank
robbery; on the run, he finds himself at the ranch of the widow Amanda Starbuck (Jill
Ireland) and stays there for three hours (“from noon till three”). He tries to force himself on
Amanda, who resists his advances rather inventively; the frustrated Graham decides on a
ruse: he pretends he is impotent, hoping to play on Amanda’s sympathy. The deception
works, and they make love three times; afterwards, they have a long talk and even dance to
Amanda’s music box, with Graham wearing Mr. Starbuck’s old tuxedo

From Less than Nothing.

Anonymous Mon Sep 21 06:03:26 2015 No.7142759

>>7142752
>>7142702
>2015
>not living within a stone throw of the greatest intellectual of our time
while i still live 2 blocks from zizek i can actually see said supermarket from my house, and yes he collects his pay for just banging students and sleeping

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 21 06:07:49 2015 No.7142763 >>7142759 >>7142752 I am schoolmates with his younger son and I suggested to Zizek that he use Yu-Gi-Oh! as an example in one of his books. Beat that, pedali.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 21 06:08:49 2015 No.7142765 >>7142746 Education is free even for non-European students, afaik. I know there are paid options, where you can modify your own schedule for exams and lectures, and it costs an average 2 months pay per semester.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 21 06:14:11 2015 No.7142776 File: 29 KB, 500x373, ExodiaCardsJP.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7142763 I am his younger son and I've played, and defeated, him at Yu-Gi-Oh! countless times

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 21 06:20:49 2015 No.7142784 >>7142759 >>7142752 You don't have to believe me, but it is true. He resides close to the old centre of ljubljana on "Resljeva cesta". I do not know his exact house number

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 21 06:26:36 2015 No.7142794 >>7142784 I saw him once on the street, inside I felt like a schoolgirl meeting her crush in the school hall. Where does he shop?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 21 06:28:33 2015 No.7142796 >>7142753 Class enemy is a good one too, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMj_GGqMKEI

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 21 06:31:18 2015 No.7142801 >>7142784 Walk up to him and start filming him When he asks you why you are filming him tell him he looks confused.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 21 06:32:55 2015 No.7142805 >>7142794 I've seen him in Mercator on Slomškova 6

Anonymous Mon Sep 21 06:37:51 2015 No.7142813

>>7142690
But the state is partly the cause of that. Afterall, the state has taken more and more control over education, not less and less.

It's like saying that slavery was good for the slaves because they were uneducated and stupid. It's mixing cause and effect.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 21 06:43:02 2015 No.7142832 >>7142796 It was filmed on the same highschool i went too (Gimazija Novo mesto)! Its so weird seeing it again on film

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 21 06:48:36 2015 No.7142841 >>7142805 >>7142832 What do you study, Anon(s)?

Anonymous Mon Sep 21 06:51:39 2015 No.7142846
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>>7142813
>But the state is partly the cause of that. Afterall, the state has taken more and more control over education, not less and less.

I am aware of that. However, as it is only the state can alter things for the better, even if it has made them worse in the first place. It is the same problem as in the 60s and 70s when all of the European countries decided to ditch the African colonies and let them govern themselves immediately. Obviously, they knew shit about governing and needed a gradual process, but instead they were given direct control. Look at Africa now, eh?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 21 06:52:41 2015 No.7142848 >>7142763 >Beat that, pedali. Кoй нapичaш пeдaл, мaйкa ти шe eбa?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 21 06:54:53 2015 No.7142853 >>7142841 I first studied Math, now I'm studying Slovenian

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 21 07:13:56 2015 No.7142882 >>7142848 Chill out, m8

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 21 07:19:32 2015 No.7142891 >>7142853 Why did you quit math, if I may ask? I'm in Architecture, by the way.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 21 07:21:13 2015 No.7142893 >>7142882 I was just trying to figure out where you're from, anon-kun~

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 21 07:23:01 2015 No.7142897 >>7142893 Toя нe cъм aз вe.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 21 07:26:01 2015 No.7142905 File: 21 KB, 877x238, Screenshot - 09212015 - 01:24:59 PM.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] please guys no ethnic tensions, we only hate on tripfags here

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 21 07:26:38 2015 No.7142906 >>7142893 he is Bulgarian >>7142897 what do you study anon?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 21 07:58:17 2015 No.7142964 >>7142891 I didn't quit it, I finished it :)

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 21 08:30:47 2015 No.7143005 >>7142964 Woah, big props! Math was my second choice if I failed to be accepted to Architecture.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 21 09:03:15 2015 No.7143092 >>7142681 Can you explain what Hegelian conservatism is and how it pertains to the state or government of Singapore?

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