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>all things are nothing to me
What did he mean by this?

>> No.7003825

Dis iz nihilizm OP there is no point in finding the meaning.

>> No.7003839

Funny how some 10 second shit-tier drawing of Stirner has become the main depiction of him.

>> No.7003913

He probably is talking about spooks again. Abstract causes like nationalism, religion alienate the individual and so he calls them worthless.

>> No.7005172
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>>7003913
It's always about those damn ghosts! I've had it with them, I'm becoming a fucking priest now.

>> No.7005179

It means he's a spookbuster.

>> No.7005191

>>7003913
He said "all things", Stirner wasn't picky in the subjects of his nihilistic rage. Hence why he never bothered to come up with an alternative other than a "whatever".

>> No.7005217

It means he's a nihilist.

>> No.7005225

>>7005217
That's a very broad term

>> No.7005241

>>7005225
how so

>> No.7005249

>>7005241
http://www.philosophybasics.com/branch_nihilism.html

>> No.7005257

>>7005249
don't reply to me anymore please

>> No.7005269

>>7005257
lol

>> No.7005367

>>7005257
Why?

>> No.7005451

>>7003809
>Ich hab' mein Sach' auf nichts gestellt
maybe consider what he actually said.

>> No.7006724

>>7005225
For you

>> No.7006741

>>7005451
This. That translation is fucked.

>> No.7007253

>>7006741
it's kind of fitting tbh
anarchists are pretty much cucks who want voluntary anarchism for everyone while stirner's philosophy justifies a conqueror's subjugation of those weaker than him or something worst, as long as he isn't spooked. so it isn't surprising they'd hijack the translation.

>> No.7007261

>>7005451

Fucking bump for this necessary clarification.

>> No.7007272

>>7003809
He was a closeted solipsist.

Nothing exists but the one.

>> No.7007273

>>7007261
What's the difference between all things being nothing to you and being concerned with nothing?

>> No.7007294

>>7007273

There is a similar claim by Camus that states to the effect, "To live life without appeal." In this case, without appeal to a higher order, a God, a set of ethics, a State, etc. To appeal to no other, other than the Self. Nihilism in this case isn't an epistemological or metaphysical nihilism. It is an egoistic qualified form of nihilism that makes no appeal to something exterior.

>> No.7007306

>>7007294
But isn't the self something?

>> No.7007311

What is spooks?

>> No.7007331

>>7007306

Elaborate. I kinda see what you are implying, but I am not entirely sure what you are intending.

>> No.7007332

>>7003809
It means that he places nothing higher than his self, he is the enemy of all higher powers and makes them his property instead of the other way round.

>> No.7007338

>>7007331
Well let's say: God, Ethics, State, etc are a goal for people who are non-egoists. In this case, whatever was it that pushed people to self-perfection or striving for something great is no longer brought by these things, but the Self instead, it's just that the Self has different concerns so even though they might not lead to the same path it is still a driving force.

>> No.7007387

>>7007338

I think I understand you point, but I think Stirner's point is that these higher orders obscure the self, and make the self subservient to them, rather than the other way around. The self should be acknowledged as the 'fundamental ground' through which all other things have their trace/genesis. Without a self, there would be no ethics, God, state, etc.

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>>7003809
Nihilist.

>> No.7007951

>>7007272
"I've placed my cause upon nothing" isn't solipsism, it just means that he acts on himself, not God or Man or Good. It's not fucking solipsism.

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>>7003809
It was the most bad-ass way to open any piece of philosophy to ever be written.

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>>7008031

>> No.7008070

>>7008065
who is the guy at the very top?

>> No.7008128

>>7003825
I'm the opposite really, all things are sort of stuff to me. I mean a car, that's a stuff, definitely not a nothing. This Stirner bloke sounds like a right numpty.

>> No.7008210
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7008210

Best wife.

>> No.7008227

>>7008210
thanks you too

>> No.7008234

>>7008070
jublius ballpleaser

>> No.7008431

>>7008070
Julius Evola

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Man I always like myself some of this meme.

>> No.7008557

>>7003839
It's poetic in a way.

>> No.7009867

>>7003839
It was made by Marx. No photographic evidence of Stirner survived. Maybe the whole guy was a spook.

>> No.7009897

>>7009867
it should be there is no photographic evidence that stirner *existed, not survived.

>> No.7009936

>>7009867
> Marx

no, engels

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>>7009867
it was done by engels m8