/lit/ - Literature

[soma No.6913932]

well, abelian?

[Anonymous No.6913937]

plens ITT will pull the lever

[Anonymous No.6913942]

>>6913932

[Abelian !!ZPFbqndltAI No.6913944]

Here I am.

[Abelian !!ZPFbqndltAI No.6913948]

So, soma, what books do you like?

[soma No.6913949]

>>6913944
come back to my thread

[soma No.6913952]

>>6913948
i dont read but i lurk here for muh philosophy and trolley banter.

[Abelian !!ZPFbqndltAI No.6913954]

>>6913952
>I don't read
You and the other 90% of this board apparently

[soma No.6913958]

>>6913954
apparently 90% of /mu/ doesnt listen to music so its all relative i suppose

[Abelian !!ZPFbqndltAI No.6913960]

>>6913958
Ok, I don't fucking understand this: do people worship Young Thug and Future ironically, or do they just have really low fucking standards? I've been lurking for so long and I still can't fucking tell.

[Anonymous No.6913963]

where da memez @

[soma No.6913970]

>>6913960
young thug is ironically because of his overblown southern pop rap persona (which i love). future is kinda ironic i think but i heard his new album is pretty good so idk.
>>6913963
im here

[Abelian !!ZPFbqndltAI No.6913973]

>>6913970
Alright. Anyway, what's your philosophical stance and your favorite album?

[soma No.6913981]

>>6913973
>Anyway, what's your philosophical stance
im still not quite sure but borderline nihilist maybe?
>and your favorite album?
prefuse 73 - one word extinguisher

you?

[Abelian !!ZPFbqndltAI No.6913986]

>>6913981
>Philosophy
Moderate existentialist

>Album
The Ape of Naples

[Anonymous No.6913989]

>>6913973
Bjork is up there with Kate Bush tbh

[Abelian !!ZPFbqndltAI No.6913995]

>>6913989
Ginger Bjork>all

[soma No.6914003]

>>6913986
maaaaaaan is the animaaaaaallllll
>>6913989
aerial is such an underrated album imo

[Anonymous No.6914005]

[Anonymous No.6914007]

>>6913973
>stance
antinatalist dionysian
>fav album
DJ Frane - Journey to the Planet of the Birds

[Abelian !!ZPFbqndltAI No.6914020]

>>6914005
kek

>>6914007
I feel like you're not the cheeriest of people

>>6914003

[Anonymous No.6914023]

Why let the trolley run over just one man when you've gone through the trouble of tying up 5 of them positioned in a row?
You can also make them 6 by moving the one from the first track to the second and take his place on the first track.

[Anonymous No.6914027]

[Abelian !!ZPFbqndltAI No.6914032]

FUCK IT


PULL THE LEVER

[Anonymous No.6914033]

>>6914027
>filename
keks in orbit

[Anonymous No.6914038]

[Anonymous No.6914061]

[Anonymous No.6914064]

tbh

[Anonymous No.6914078]

>>6914061
>schopenhauer_derails_his_mum.jpg

[Anonymous No.6914411]

[Anonymous No.6915056]

>>6914061
Does Schopenhauer have a tail there?

[Anonymous No.6916090]

>>6913942
top kek

[Anonymous No.6916112]

>What are "apparent goodness" and "actual goodness"? In the Spring-Autumn Period, the country of Lu made a law that rewarded those who paid the ransom to free their fellow citizens who were servant-slaves. At that time, Confucius had a rich student named Zigong who, although he paid the ransom to free people, did not accept the reward for doing so.

>When Confucius heard this, he was very unhappy and scolded him: "You acted wrongly. When sages and virtuous people do something, it is to improve morality and teach people how to behave. We do not do something for self-benefit or reputation. In Lu, the poor outnumber the wealthy. Since you refused the reward, others will think that accepting reward money is being greedy and if this happens, no one will pay the ransom to free our people."

>Another student of Confucius, Zilu, once saw a man drowning in the river and rescued him. Later, the man thanked him by giving him a cow. When Confucius heard that Zilu had accepted the gift, he was happy and said, "in the future, people will be eager to help those who are drowning."

>In the eyes of ordinary people, Zigong’s refusal of the reward money was good, while Zilu’s acceptance of the cow was not. Who would have expected Confucius to praise Zilu and scold Zigong? From this, we can see that those who practice good deeds must not only consider the current outcome but that of the future as well. Neither should we only consider our own gain and loss but think about the impact made on others.

>What we do now may be good but in time may prove harmful. Thus, what seems like goodness may actually be bad. What appears to be bad may actually have positive long-term effects, turning out to have been good after all. Thus, what seems like a bad deed may actually be goodness. For example, apparent responsibility may be actual irresponsibility, apparent propriety may be actual impropriety, apparent trustworthiness may be actual untrustworthiness, and apparent kindness may be actual unkindness. We need to carefully differentiate to make proper choices.

I take this to mean Confucius would rather save the most people. I suppose the larger group would be able to afford a better, more sumptuous reward. Saving the crowd and being rewarded thus would motivate people in the future to save larger numbers of people.

On the other hand, if you did nothing, and the families of the people you did not save found out about it, surely they will kill you.

[Anonymous No.6916121]

>>6914061
Obit anus, abit onus.
The old woman dies, the burden is lifted.

[Anonymous No.6916276]

>>6914411
Reminds me of this.
...How does one contact a Japanese porn/horror/gore manga artist for a request?

[Anonymous No.6916292]

>>6913932
There's too many people on Earth anyway, yiff in hell, fags.

[Anonymous No.6916305]

>>6914061

I thought this was nothing special until i realized the track loops back and started laughing.

[Anonymous No.6916389]

Prisons are built by the stones of law; brothels by the brick of religion.

The pursuit for objective morality is pointless, because the human faculty towards "goodness" cannot be confined into words (just like the faculty towards "evil"). If you make a law saying: "no-one shall harm or kill a human being ", you are seeking to do the impossible - bestow permanence on fluid and ilusive concepts.What does it mean "to harm"? What does it mean "to kill"? What is a "human being"? Who is the subject to whom the law applies?

True "morality" stems from the heart - not from rational concepts. We cannot bound the "good" in the clumsy chains and shackles of words, just as much as we can't bound the "bad". It's like trying to describe an irrational number through decimal system - you can sometimes get close, but you can never get to the "real thing". The only way how to accurately describe what "good" is is to use, just like in the case of an irrational number, a (mathematical) relationship - a story.

[Anonymous No.6916876]

>>6913973
moral realist, compatibalist, deontologist
Slint-spiderland
flying saucer attack-s/t

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » No.6916922]

>>6916276
>>>/gif/7289122

[Anonymous No.6916940]

>>6913973
Nihilist/Utilitarian
Alphaville - Forever Young

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » No.6917018]

>>6913973
Both answers right there. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wYmq2Vz5yM

>>6913989
Oh yeah, she's great.
>>6914003
>Aerial is such an underrated album imo
I know! I saw a bio-doc where they just say it flopped. I had been listening to it for years since it came out and didn't even know she put on all that weight. People are too image conscious sometimes.

[Anonymous No.6917094]

>>6914411

[Anonymous No.6917107]

>>6917094
Kill your wife, kill the man. Since you're an exact copy of him you steal his identity and family. It is only fair.

[Anonymous No.6917113]

>>6917094
Easy, Op.2 will pull the lever. A consequence of such is that Op.1 pulls the lever too, achieving the optimal least #causalities.

[Anonymous No.6917126]

>implying the straight rails are not an illusion made by the majority in order to get rid of the different guy
>implying theres a choice and that you wont be put next to him if you choose to save him