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6907808 No.6907808 [Reply] [Original]

I need a source for something Nietzsche says about Socrates.

In twilight of the idols Nietzsche writes that a person came to Athens, who knew about faces, and told Socrates based on his face, that he was a monster, to which Socrates replied something along the lines of "You're on to me, sir!".

I need to find where Nietzsche got this from? Is it from one of Plato's dialogues and if so where? Or some other source?

>> No.6907831

It's in the symposium

>> No.6907949

>>6907831

I know why you say that but that's not exactly it I think.

>> No.6908415

>>6907808
I've got a hunch thats in the Phaedo.

>> No.6908418

>>6908415
seconded

>> No.6908426

>>6907808
>I need a source for something Nietzsche says
look in the trash

>> No.6908432

Probably Xenophon

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>>6908426
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>>6908426

>> No.6908451

>>6908415
>>6908418

Perhaps you know this already but here it goes. download the pdf and ctrl + F "monst"

>> No.6908470

>>6908426

please add a trip so I can filter you

>> No.6908493

In my experience Nietzsche refers to later secondary sources as well as primary. And Plato's early dialogues are the only ones considered remotely like what Socrates said, Nietzsche knew Plato used Socrates as a mouthpiece

So good luck browsing through old documents. AFAIK. you could try Olympiodorus or Xenophon, like I said earlier.

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>>6907808
I always thought it was a reference to the Phaedrus 230a-b where Socrates compares himself to a Typhon

>> No.6909059 [DELETED] 

>>6907808
Socrates was a foreigner and the Greeks probably attributed different looking people as having "monstrous" souls because they looked scary or ugly

>> No.6909264

>>6907808
Wow nice drawing of Pat Rothfuss ;)