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Does anybody want to read Infinite Jest with me? We'll read ten pages a day.

Reading schedule:
http://infinitesummer.org/index

>> No.6641387

>>6641362
ten pages? ewwwww

>> No.6641388

>>6641387
Yeah, I'm not sure why it is just ten pages.

>> No.6641395

>>6641388
Snacking on a turd will almost surely make most vomit, but tiny slivers of feces mixed in with a daily routine go down like normal.

>> No.6641397

>>6641388
It's for plebs, is why.

>> No.6641400

make it at least 20 and you're on OP

>> No.6641409

>>6641400
Sure, 20 - 30 is better, but someone else would have to make the schedule to accommodate because I am not good at that stuff.

>> No.6641413

>>6641387
>>6641388
Ten pages a day isn't such a bad idea when you consider everyone on here has their own backlogs and reading they're doing. Something like ten pages allows everyone part of the group to participate without having to drop everything else.

>> No.6641418

>>6641413
Fine, let's do ten m8s

>> No.6641443

>>6641387
>>6641388
Ten pages of Infinite Jest is like at least 20 pages of most other books though (assuming you're reading it in a physical format, I'm not sure if the ebook preserves the page size). It's fucking massive and long winded. That's not even mentioning the endnotes once you start getting to the parts that refer to them.

>> No.6641454

>>6641443
>>6641418
>>6641413
We can adjust the pace if necessary.

>> No.6641485

I'm in

>> No.6641487
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6641487

>>6641454
I'm in on this as well

>> No.6641496

>>6641485
>>6641487
I'm white and in college, too. Let's do this!

>> No.6641497

>>6641496
Ignore this asshole op
I, for one, am sincere enough to join you in your reading, OP.

>> No.6641560

>>6641496
Made me lol

>> No.6641579

>>6641560
lol yeah me too. White people who are in college are like my least favorite kind of people, they're always doing nerdy shit like reading books and going to book clubs

WHITE

AIN'T

RIGHT

>> No.6641590

>>6641579
there's far better shit to read than dfw

>> No.6641637

>>6641362
June 21st? I guess I'll be in. I'm white and starting college so I guess I should. And this way I can keep reading other stuff too.

>> No.6641673

>>6641362
skype is coutour

>> No.6641679

>>6641579
I remember picking on this kid that read books. He became a humanities major and I STEM'd and I'm now a millionaire. Reading is for faggots

>> No.6641681

>>6641362
>>6641673
please add me

>> No.6641694

I'm definitely in!

>> No.6641701

>>6641673
>>6641681
>Skype
OP here, I don't really want to use that. It would be best to keep everything on here.

>> No.6641716

>>6641701
<3

>> No.6641739

Why would you read? I'm in STEM and I make 10000000000000 dollars a year and I don't read.

>> No.6641822

>>6641362
I'm in. I am white and going to college this fall.

>> No.6641844

I began reading this yesterday, got about three pages in, and decided I didn't want to dedicate at least a month to this of all books. I'll try again, but I've gotta say I really wasn't a fan of DFW's voice in those first few pages.

The moment I put it down I picked up Scott Lynch's The Lies of Locke Lamora and was 50 pages in a half hour later. Now that's a page turner.

>> No.6641853

I'm in too! Will we start on June 21 like that schedule then?

>> No.6641864

>>6641443

>at least 20 pages of most other books though

so then shouldn't you set the pace at maybe 60-80 pages a day? how little do you fucking read?

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6641925

>>6641496
White Canadian on holiday visa in Melbourne. Close though.

>> No.6641962

i'm doing it
i'm not white and 10 pages is perfect for me
in the meantime, i'll have an excuse to read broom of the system

>> No.6642017

I'm in too

>> No.6642193

>>6641864
That would be a sensible daily pace if you were reading alone but this is for a casual reading club where everyone has lives outside of reading, and needs to stand a chance of catching up if they miss a day or two. you're an idiot for willfully ignoring such an obvious detail, never talk about reading again

>> No.6642256

I as well, am interested, in this.

>> No.6642279

>>6642193
So what you are saying is that you only have 30 mins a day to spend on reading?

>> No.6642306

I just finished IJ last month but I'd like to read it again. The slow pace is good for me because I have other books reading.

>> No.6642612

>>6641497
nice post m8. sooper ironic.

>> No.6642615

>>6641844
>a page turner
>>>/tv/

>> No.6642621

I'd do it, but I'm already close to a hundred pages in. Enjoying it so far. It's very entertaining.

>> No.6642626

>>6641362
Question OP.

So I looked at the site. It looks like this a thing on its own? Or did you create it?

Because the only reason I would read it with you guys is so I can get a daily dose of witty literary banter.

I don't want to read it with a bunch of insincere normies.

>> No.6642807

>>6642626
No, I didn't create that. It's been around for a while.
>>6641853
>Will we start on June 21 like that schedule then?
Yeah I suppose it would be best to start then. It would be nice to start sooner, but this gives everyone ample time to get the book and such.

>> No.6642972

I'm down. I wasn't going to tackle it this summer, but fuck it.

>> No.6643744

>>6641362
Make a Goodreads group.

>> No.6644882

>>6641496
hahaha fucking white people smh tbh

>> No.6644917

Twenty pages. I go back to Uni early September and I'd rather it didn't stretch into then.

I would love this though. I've always wanted a lit bookclub and I've been wanting to re-read Infinite Jest for a while now. Set a date/schedule/wahetever and I'm in

>> No.6645005

so is this happening?

>> No.6645033

>>6645005
Yes, it's happening on June 21.
Keep this thread alive until then so that more people join us.

>> No.6645070

>>6645033
>sorry, just got here

my creative writing professor gave me a copy of IJ, said my style reminded me of it, i'll be here 21 June, i think it'll be fun to read this with what are basically my only friends

>> No.6645100

Can't we start sooner?

>> No.6645105

>>6645100
OP here -- theoretically we could start tomorrow, but we need to allow time for people to get the book.

We could probably start a week earlier on the 14th. Let's see how many people get in here over the next few days and see.

>> No.6645151

>>6645105
14th sounds good to me. Hope you keep to your word OP. Last book club lit had disappeared real quickly and those keeping it order jumped ship

>> No.6645166

>>6645151
Don't worry. :^)
At 10 - 20 pages a day, it's probably not worthwhile to meet everyday though. I think it would be best to have that as a goal but basically just say "Finish __ pages by Sunday" and then discuss that.

>> No.6645186

http://strawpoll.me/4552382

>> No.6645220

>>6641362
In case yr new here, everyone pretends to have read it. It's the running joke here on /lit/.

It's 50 Shades bad.

>> No.6645231

>>6645105
>>6645151
i'm down for the 14th

>>6645166
this sounds good

>> No.6645280
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6645280

Does this book have any subtle homosexuality? I don't want to waste my time reading some breeder mubo jumbo

>> No.6645359

>>6645280
I'm drunk and can't decipher what the heck this post means

There's no homosexuality as far as I remember though, besides a few minor characters like a drunk Irishmen who rapes his son, a crossdressing black man prostitute and an art film about AIDS infected gays fucking

>> No.6645375

>>6641362
I'm in.
But my edition is in brazilian portuguese therefore the number of pages might be slightly different

>> No.6645398

>>6645359
Troeltsch (??)

>> No.6645441

>>6645359
(post dick pics)

>> No.6645454

>>6645375
..yeah, (cough) epub (cough) - was wondering same, tbh. But (s)he asked 1st.

>> No.6645473
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6645473

>>6645454
I wish i had an digital reader like a Kindle or something but i'm stuck with the brick edition

>> No.6645482

>>6645473
Wtf

>> No.6645492

>>6645482
what

>> No.6645503

>>6645482
It's the BR trans.

The one that mistranslates Year of Glad as Year of Happy

>> No.6645516

>>6645492
It's... Beautiful... Where did you get it, Jesús?

>> No.6645535

>>6645516
As >>6645503 said it's the Brazilian Portuguese translation.
You can get it with international shipping here http://www.saraiva.com.br/graca-infinita-8196908.html

>> No.6645546

>>6645375
>>6645454
Someone with the regular paperback version can just write the paragraph where we should all stop.

>> No.6645572

>>6645546
Why don't we make it one chapter a day (I don't know how long chapters are), or one for every 2 days if they're longer than 10 pages)?
Also, someone should try keeping up a Infinite Jest Challenge # up everyday so we keep up discussions about the book to the point that everybody readed.

>> No.6645591

>>6645473
I almost bought it yesterday, but I have the original on my Kindle and I'll give a try. I found this book beautiful, the orange around the pages is awesome! I just don't get why jest is translated for graça.

>> No.6645614

>I'm reading IJ on my own this summer, and am actually having a great time with it.

Remember kids, don't listen to memers. Make up your own mind about these things.

>> No.6645816

>>6645614
nice meme

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6645830

>>6645280
Saveddeshita
ya gurl, it's mostly breeder shit, just read it.

>> No.6645834

>>6645105
The fourteenth would be good and I think 10 pages a day is a fine schedule so I can keep up on other reading. I would really like to participate in this and hope it doesn't quit.

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6646298

Guys I don't think you understand how excited I am for this!!

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6646312

http://strawpoll.me/4553750
Curious how many will be rereading

>> No.6646329

>>6646298
me too, i'm so stoked to actually read along with people i actually enjoy spending time with, albeit through the interzweb but w.e.

>> No.6646349

I have the ebook, how may I count ten pages? I'm pretty sure that one pagein the Kindle are note on page in the book.

>> No.6646360

>>6646349
i have a hard-copy and a kindle, i could dl IJ and keept everyone updated on where to start and end the appropriated locations

>> No.6646369

>>6646360
>srry im drunk

but i think you can get the gist of what i meant

>> No.6646427
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6646427

>dfw this will never work

>> No.6646515

>>6646427
>>6646312
>>6646298
Stop memeing

>> No.6646520
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6646520

>>6646515

>> No.6646535

>>6646520
He looked happy.

:(

>> No.6647021

bump

>> No.6647027

>>6646520

he looks like a 3 year old boy

>> No.6647065

>>6646520
autism?

>> No.6647193

>>6646520
where is that from?

>> No.6647757

>>6646360
Great, I would appreciate that.

>> No.6647769

>>6647193
it's a clip from the end of the tour

>> No.6647788

2. Tried, but DNF
5 votes (26%)

holy fuck how pleb can you be, I read this book in highschool

>> No.6648285

>>6645105
The 14th sounds fine. You might wanna think about tripping up for the book club threads if you're going to be the one organizing this.

>> No.6648295

>>6645105
could we just follow the schedule on the website?

because, the thing is, the website has a website, and we don't

>> No.6648332

>>6647788
i read proust in middle school

>> No.6648357 [DELETED] 

>>6648332
finnegan's wake in elementary school

>> No.6648383

>>6648295
It's not hard to make a Tumblr.

>> No.6648385

>>6647788
I'm halfway through reading it but am restarting to read along with /lit/

>> No.6648390

>>6648385
forgot to take off name, please ignore

>> No.6648433

>>6648383
i might be alone in this but i'd like to just stick to the website because if we start making our own schedule then people will be tempted to start to speed up or slow down and i'd really like to just go slow and steady on this one

just my preference

>> No.6648452

if we go by the edition with the sky cover page 10 ends with "patch looked oddly incomplete, gnawed-on; and some of the nauseous stuff" and the end of the paragraph is "'My son at this! Help!' and lapping me twice before the memory receds."

>> No.6648458

>>6648433
>>6648295
are you too retarded to subtract 7 from the dates on the website in your head?

>> No.6648460

>>6648458
i just want to keep on a regular schedule

are you too retarded to understand that?

>> No.6648470

>>6648460
how is doing the same schedule but starting on the 14th instead of the 21st irregular in your mind?

>> No.6648474

>>6648470
i explained in the other post
in the end it's just my preference
if you're so against waiting a week, then so be it
so far it's 1:1

>> No.6648571

>>6648452
OP here -- thanks for that. I only have the ebook edition, but it seems the beginning of the book has relatively short chapters.

I'd like to start on the 14th because I've realized we can all get a digital copy of the book while we are waiting for a physical version (if some people are doing that.

I'm going to make a provisional schedule tonight to accommodate for this start date, as well as the short chapters. For instance, it seems better to read the entire first chapter at once rather than reading only ten pages.

I'll also make a permanent Tumblr (that was a good idea, whoever suggested it) to use as a reference because it is easy to cite for newcomers. However, I'd like to keep to /lit/ as much as possible.

I'll include >>6648470 and >>6648474 in this post if you are still here.

>> No.6648578

I can't believe how many of you have never even read Infinite Jest and yet there's so much shitposting about it

>> No.6648612

>>6648571
>For instance, it seems better to read the entire first chapter at once rather than reading only ten pages.
this is what i said above

i'd rather wait until the 21st and keep on a regular schedule. i don't see the point of this if you're going to keep changing the schedule at will. for the record, i've already read the first few chapters, and i have no problem just going 10 pages from the start, because I think over time it will be a lot easier and better for appreciating it.

i know you are impatient to start, and i feel the same way by i also have a sense of how schedules work. you assign a reasonable amount each time and everyone will keep up and we can talk about it. you want to double or triple it and people will fall behind.

in before anyone gets extremely angry at me for simply voicing my opinion

>> No.6648622

>>6648612
YOU FUCK, AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>> No.6648623

>>6648612
i dont think theres any point autistically sticking to 10 pages per day some 10 page sections will have 6 pages of endnotes and other 10 page sections will end like 2 pages before the end of the chapter

>> No.6648629

>>6648571
I like the idea of a permanent tumblr so way to go op

>> No.6648634

>>6648623
the endnotes is precisely why i want to stick to 10 pre-endnote pages a day, reading any endnotes that appear during those 10 pages

i have no problem with reading ahead either as long as the global schedule doesn't change

i don't expect i'd read ahead, but maybe i might, but i don't want to be forced to read ahead randomly because one of you decided it

please don't get angry and call me autistic

>> No.6648636

>>6648612
>i don't see the point of this if you're going to keep changing the schedule at will.
It hasn't been made yet, but there will be a formula to it for good reason once it is made. It won't be simply randomly made at will.

I agree with this guy ( >>6648623 ) .

>> No.6648638

>>6648634
nobody called you autistic, i called reading 10 pages a day even if it makes more sense to read 1 or 2 extra pages to finish the chapter autistic.

>> No.6648644

So how will the threads work? If we're intending to discuss every day there will probably always be a thread up, right? So we can probably fit a few days of discussion into just one thread and make a new one when it hits the post limit.

>> No.6648647

>>6648638
please calm down

please, please calm down

>> No.6648654

>>6641362
I'm an avid non-fiction reader (mostly philosophy) my favorite non-non-fiction writers are Kafka and Dostoevsky. I'm old (30+) and I've never read any Foster Wallace. Can anyone tell me a little about this book? I know it's a meme book here kind of like Neutral Milk Hotel is on /mu/ ... I'm thinking to partake this reading group but I'd like to know more about the novel and what to expect. Thanks.

>> No.6648670

>>6648654
It's a non-sequential narrative that illustrates family dynamics, consumerism, conspiracy theories, addiction in all forms, tennis, depression and a lot of other stuff often via humorous anecdotes about gruesome or dysfunctional scenarios.

>> No.6648676

>>6648647
i am calm, i just disagree with you.

>> No.6648688

>>6648636
i really just want to keep it regular
if it's not regular, then i won't be able to do it
if you do it by chapter, it's not going to be regular
ten pages is plenty fast. if you just want some extra motivation to read it as fast as possible why do this? i really feel bad because i was excited about this and now it's gonna be like read 100 pages a day or something, which I just can't do.

>> No.6648691

>>6648644
Yes, there should always be a thread floating around. Especially as we are just starting out so that newcomers might join.

>> No.6648718

>>6648688
who in this thread is saying 100 pages a day?

>> No.6648719

>>6648688
>now it's gonna be like read 100 pages a day or something,
That would obviously never happen. The goal is to read 70 - 100 pages every week.
Please just wait and let me make a draft of the schedule.

>> No.6648727

>>6648654
It is a long, meandering look at the balance of entertainment and work in a Sci-Fi approximation of the modern age. Quite a bit of it is funny, though it's also often fairly dark. The longwinded prose sounds somewhere between University Professor and whiny teenage girl, and is easily sidetracked into talking about the fictional tech of the day or anecdotal stories that don't seem to have anything to do with the larger threads of the book.

There are two main characters, an anxious teen at a tennis academy and a reforming burglar with drug addictions, but there are many more reoccurring characters we follow throughout the book, mostly people related to the two main characters, (tennis players, trainers, admin, junkies, crooks, rehab staff) but there is also a much larger plot of political intrigue that sort of encapsulates it all.

At the very core of the plot (and this is a bit of a spoiler) is a film so entertaining, you'll die if you watch it, for lack of the need to do anything else.

>> No.6648728

>>6641413
shhh you're interrupting the circlejerk

>> No.6648736

>>6641701
The problem with keeping everything on here is that your daily thread is going to be full of shitposting, every single day

>> No.6648740

>>6641413
>>6641413
>>6648719
>>6648719
>>6648688
pretty sure we're going to be right around 10 paegs a day, the guy just said he wanted to adjust it for chapter that are 8 or 12 pages or whatever. im sure it will be fine as long as he makes a proper schedule for it

>> No.6648741

>>6648719
i think this whole thing stems out of impatience
which is completely at odds with doing this, since it's about going slow and steady
there's no shame in taking your time. i don't want to race to see who can finish it the fastest
please don't ruin what could be a good thing with your ego

>> No.6648747

>>6648741
>mom won't give me money to buy IJ until the 20th!

>> No.6648752

>>6641413
agree with this tbh, have other stuff to read and if we go above like 20 in one day i wouldnt have the time to read the other stuff im reading.

>>6648741
why are you overreacting so badly? we are literally talking about reading a couple of pages more or less than 10 on some days dictated by chapter breaks.

>> No.6648768

>>6648752
i don't want you to ruin a good thing with impatience. you're already too impatient to wait until the 21st. what's the difference? why are you reacting so badly to what i'm saying?

>> No.6648782

>>6648768
how about we wait till the 21st because you seem to think tha'ts important but we still make our own schedule beause 10pgs a day is too rigid and sometimes 12 or 9 might be better

>> No.6648805

>>6648768
whats the difference between reading 13 pages and reading 10? If the next chapter is 13 pages away it makes sense to read 13 pages. Waiting until the 21st will kill momentum IMO as lots of people will have forgotten about this whole thing, but it doesn't matter to me personally - if anything the 21st actually fits my schedule a little bit better than the 14th.

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6648815

So. How is this being executed? Do we "discuss" it on lit or on OPs link?

There is probably a link already posted that explains this but...

I'm in.

>> No.6648823

Is there a good ereader version available?

>> No.6648828

>>6648823
read the sticky

>> No.6648840

>>6648782
why can't you just allow people to read at their own discretion and keep a global 10?
you don't have to be a rocket scientist to realize that it would be most proper for you to read the book at least by chapter, but that's sometimes too long or too short for comfort
so at every inconsistent point you're going to be forced to make yet another call regarding how to lump together or divide chapters
instead of reading from X2 to X1 every day i'm reading different intervals every day

>>6648805
and now 9-12 has increased to 13. and soon it will be 15 and 20. and already we've doubled our original speed. and maybe later on it'll make sense to read 40 a day, because that's just how the chapters work?

what are you losing by doing 10 a day? why can't you just read ahead at your own pace but keep track with the global schedule. you read ahead 5 pages? then you have 5 less to do tomorrow. what's the issue?
and no i think the more time we have this thread up, the more people will see it and the more will join.
and yes the 21st fits my schedule better and a lot of this has to do with my current reading schedule which is very regular and disregards chapters as well.
i have pleasure reads too okay? i read on the bus and when i have a spare moment like everyone else, but i also have shit that i need a schedule for, because they're more difficult and i can't handle doing huge chunks at once.
not to mention the pragmatic consideration that a regular global schedule is easier for organizing several people. i don't have to check some tumblr every day to know i have to read a multiple of 10 pages.

>> No.6648841

>>6646520
> dfw you're making zadie so moist

>> No.6648874

>>6648840
It's not hard to look at a tumblr once per day, you could even just note down somewhere the amount of pages to read each day if you don't want to check it daily.

the book was not supposed to be read in neat 10 page chunks, so we absolutely do lose out by reading it in 10 page chunks. it makes the most sense to use 10 as a rough guideline and adjust as necessary using common sense instead of robotically reading 10 pages every single day like its a fucking chore.

>> No.6648916

>>6648874
if you don't want to do it, don't ruin it. don't turn the thing into something completely different

this isn't about reading infinite jest in what you view to be the best way possible. it's about reading it in a particular way, a way that probably has a lot of benefits in an of itself.

also it looks like people did it already and it worked out pretty great

>> No.6648931

>>6648916
>completely different
we are talking about literally 2,3 pages more or less on some days

there is no reason to read it in 10 page chunks if the end of the next chapter is 8 or 11 pages away.

>> No.6648967

>>6648931
why do you always have to be too good or too smart for something? why can't you just relax and do something simple that works? why do you have to ruin it for me (and maybe others) by double and halving the speed every other day because you feel like it?

why can't you just read ahead by yourself and keep a global 10 a day schedule? do you even know what the 10 a day is for? it's so you have a manageable, digestible amount of a long book each day so you can know that you'll finish it by a certain time. it's so you don't have to feel like you have to read as much as humanly possible in a given period of time and focus on what you have read. it's because not everyone is as amazing as you and can read and absorb IJ in one sitting.

>> No.6648969

http://strawpoll.me/4559803
I cant believe that there are people on /lit/ autistic enough for me to have to make this.

>> No.6648981

>>6648967
why are you even replying to me if you aren't going to address my argument and just act like i said a hideously exaggerated version of what i actually said

>> No.6648986

>>6648969
fuck you man. i mean really. i really hate you right now, whoever you are.
i got excited about it, but now you're going to destroy it. and honestly i doubt very much this will be going on for /lit/ in a few months either because of this. i'll just read it by myself like everything else.

i don't like arguing for this, but i did and i risked looking ridiculous because i know that it's a good thing. but fuck it. and fuck you because i wanted to do this together and you ruined it.

>> No.6648995

>>6641362
>ten pages a day

Holy shit /lit/ should be euthanized .

>> No.6648999

>>6641362
10 pages a day?
I don't think I've spent 4 months on a book since junior high.

>> No.6649006

>>6648986
>fuck you for letting everyone decide what they want instead of pandering to me!!!

leave you entitled fuck, you can't expect everyone else to read 10 pages every day just because you are a fucking paranoid schizo who reads "lets read 7-13 pages rather than strictly 10" as "lets read infinite jest in one sitting with no breaks for food or sleep!!!"

>> No.6649014

>>6649006
you're the one who wants everyone to pander to you because you're too impatient to keep on a schedule. nothing you say like that means anything, because it can just be reflected against you. at least i have the original website on my side.

>> No.6649027

>>6649014
>you're the one who wants everyone to pander to you because you're too impatient to keep on a schedule
i made a poll you dumb cunt, if you want to read strictly 10 pages then vote for strictly 10 pages instead of babbling shit about how im ruining your life in this thread

>> No.6649044

>>6641362
>http://infinitesummer.org/index
Yes, absolutely ! Am already planning to and am doing some serious language learning too so this sort of slow pace should be good...

>> No.6649084

>>6649027
you made a poll that you'll obviously win
you think you understand something i don't about reading to the end of the chapter when it's you who doesn't understand the benefits of a consistent schedule
yeah i'm upset because this could've been fun and you're the only who thinks he's just way too good to follow a simple schedule

>> No.6649102

>>6649084
What are the benefits of a consistent schedule? You have yet to provide any except for the fact that you dont have to spend literally 30 seconds each day finding out what page to read to

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>>6641362

>> No.6649162

I think 10 pages is a good number. All the die-hard patricians in this thread who thinks it's too small are the fags who are going to drop the book first after a few days.

Since there will be daily discussion, why not just read the same 10 pages twice or thrice so you have a better comprehension of the book instead of speed reading it like it's some john green ya shit.

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>only 7 people itt have already read it
so are you all underage or what?

>> No.6649180

>>6649102
you know when you finish. you know what to expect. you know there's no surprises the next day.

sometimes i want to read 3 more pages and sometimes i don't want to. sometimes maybe i'd want to read a whole weeks worth of pages. maybe i would. but then would the schedule change because maybe that section was exciting and easy? what about people who don't find it that easy or didn't have the time that day?

probably only a few people are going to do it. what you're saying is posing a problem for me. i know i have a problem with that kind of thing. you can call it pandering to me, but maybe i'm not the only one. maybe generally my problems with it are the problems with it.

you can belittle all this. and you're going to and people are going to. they're going to say i'm making a huge deal out of nothing, except i'm not the one making the deal, you are. and i have to defend something that seemed obvious to me at the outset. something i now have to rack my brain to articulate all the ways that i've known it to be better from sheer experience alone.

you're fighting this as much as i am. when one of us says they don't care or are bowing out, it's over. but it's not more on me than on you. and you can say it's more on you since the original idea is to do 10 a day. you're not some kind of genius to realize that you might leave off a page here or there. on my reading schedules i have plenty of dangling 1 pagers. i just take those as break days. and maybe i'd want to finish the last 3 pages or maybe i wouldn't. it depends. i don't always feel a duty to finish a chapter. why would you enslave yourself to that duty instead of the simple regularity of just 10 a day?

if you feel exasperated that we've spent this long on it, don't take it out on me, because you could've said you didn't care just as soon as you wanted me to say it.

>> No.6649189

>>6649180
>you know when you finish. you know what to expect. you know there's no surprises the next day.

if the schedules all written out there won't be anyway
i can't believe how mad you're getting about this

>> No.6649210

>>6649180
>you know when you finish. you know what to expect. you know there's no surprises the next day.
not a problem if the schedule is fully made before we start

>sometimes i want to read 3 more pages and sometimes i don't want to. sometimes maybe i'd want to read a whole weeks worth of pages. maybe i would. but then would the schedule change because maybe that section was exciting and easy? what about people who don't find it that easy or didn't have the time that day?

if you don't have the time in your day to read 13 pages maybe this isn't for you

/lit/ is a community of people who like reading and dont see it as a chore, i don't think that they want to read the bare minimum number of pages. I understand that people have schedules and other stuff to read and we can't be reading an hour or two hours worth of infinite jest per day, but if you're actually enjoying the story then you will probably want to finish the chapter anyway instead of leaving it awkwardly in the middle

>> No.6649214

>>6649189
>i can't believe how mad you're getting about this

well, to be honest, i am upset. i'm looking down the road and i already see the problems with your version. and i see no reason why you're insisting it has to be this way.

but on the other hand i don't know why you're resisting me so much. maybe you're not upset but what does it matter when you're insisting as much as i am.

the way i see the fundamental part of the idea is a regular schedule. yet immediately you believe you can engineer a better version of a regular schedule by precisely being irregular. you believe that there is something inherently bad about not reading to the end of the chapter +/- three pages (for now). you think that if i felt like it i wouldn't read an extra three pages? it's not about what each person does, it's about the regularity of the schedule. it's that we keep going at the same pace overall so that this week we don't read 200 pages whereas last week we only read 100.

i want you to change your mind and you're not doing it. that's why i'm writing so much. none of it's getting through, so who's the one who's really fighting?

>> No.6649230

>>6649210
and im not saying we have to finish every chapter the day we start it, if the chapter is 45 pages maybe we read 10, 10, 10, 15 or 10, 10, 11, 10, 14 or whatever makes the most sense based on where the paragraphs and chapter breaks are.

>>6649214
the thing is that most people on /lit/ WILL read those extra 3 pages. This is a /lit/ reading group so why would we make a schedule that doesn't fit what most of /lit/ would do, there's no point making it 10 pages every single day just in case there's one person on /lit/ whos brain shuts down if they go one word past the 10th page.

>> No.6649232

>>6649214
that was my first post

>> No.6649233

>>6649169
yes

>> No.6649235

Please vote
https://strawpoll.me/4560458

>> No.6649236

>>6649210
>/lit/ is a community of people who like reading and dont see it as a chore, i don't think that they want to read the bare minimum number of pages. I understand that people have schedules and other stuff to read and we can't be reading an hour or two hours worth of infinite jest per day, but if you're actually enjoying the story then you will probably want to finish the chapter anyway instead of leaving it awkwardly in the middle
and i knew this was coming
i knew it from the moment you opened your mouth about it
this moralistic judgement about the perceived culture of lit and how disgusting it is to read on a regular schedule. how real connoisseurs of literature don't need a schedule to read. they read at their leisure whatever they like whenever they want.

well all i can say is then THIS isn't for you. why must you come into a project premised on a schedule and declare that the notion of a schedule is abhorrent and unliterary? everyone here who liked the idea liked it because of the idea of the schedule. they knew that a schedule is important for reading, because reading is something that takes place over a longer period of time than watching a movie or listening to an album. if you're too good for it then maybe THIS isn't for you.

>> No.6649265

>>6649236
yet again you project your own weird insecurities on to my post

look at the poll http://strawpoll.me/4559803/r

most of the people who are in this thread and cared enough to vote want a schedule that is more flexible than 10 pages per day

its not about being a connoisseur or finding your preference abhorrent, its just that most of us don't want to do what you're proposing. you need to accept that.

>well all i can say is then THIS isn't for you
or maybe its not for you, plenty of people seem to be comfortable with having our own schedule. our community is different from infinitesummer, we don't have to design our reading group to appeal to anyone, it just has to appeal to the general sentiment on /lit/ and to me it is clear that most of /lit/ would prefer a flexible schedule

>> No.6649283

>>6649236
Man, take it easy.
We could make a schedule different from the site. But this schedule have to be made before this thing starts.

See, if we can read 10 pages a day, maybe 13 is not very hard. But of course, there will be a schedule that predicts it.

For example, one person can understand better if finish the chapter.

Take it easy. I like the idea of 10 pages a day. Do you like the idea of making OUR own, schedule? It's 10 pages but can make 15 sometimes, no more than that. Think about it. We can make this thing to be more OUR than the site from 2009.

>> No.6649313

>>6649230
first of all, is it just 3 pages? or is it 5 or 10? or anything less than 10, so 9? then why not 10?

how do we answer these questions? 5 will probably be settled on, but already that's 50% more. and then you will say "you can't read FIVE more pages?! are you FIVE years old?" but then why don't we read 50 pages a day, since that's more reasonable for an adult? why keep a schedule at all?

and there's a difference between reading that and assigning it. if you read ahead 3 today, you only have 7 tomorrow. but those 7 might be harder than the last 20. and so what if you've only read 7 pages? would you feel ashamed to have only read 7 pages? maybe you find you are reading so fast you don't need us. then are we supposed to join your speed or would the speed stay the same? shouldn't we all feel ashamed to only read 7 pages a day? are we 7 years old?

rather than answering all these question, i say don't. let people do whatever they want, but set the pace at 10 a day.

my wager to you is that if we set it at 10 a day, in a month you will NOT have found that we are all 50 pages ahead of the schedule but rather that several of us are 10 or 20 pages BEHIND schedule. that's because i know the vicissitudes of life (as well as you probably do even if you won't admit it). i know that you can sit down to read 10 pages and fall asleep on the first world. i know that you can read 10 pages and realize that you've read every other word. i know you can forget to read 10 pages at all because of all the other stuff that went on in your day that wasn't the all important /lit/ readalong.
and i know that to catch up 10 pages is a lot easier than catching up 16 pages when you already feel like you're behind.

so that's my prediction if we do it my (infinitesummer) way, though since all these great literary people with minds far more attuned to subtlety than i will definitely choose your way, we'll never have to put it to the test.

>> No.6649314

>>6649236
Also I'm brazilian, and I found IJ a little difficult, but I guess I'd understand better some parts if we read untill the chapter ends. But as I said, no more than 15 pages for day.

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>>6649313

Official Schedule
========================================================================================

Each day I (OP) will roll 2 standard playing dice to determine the number of pages that will be read for the day, the highest then being 12 and the lowest being 2.

This however, only sets the global maximum. Each reader flips a coin twice, for each tailside removes 1 page and each headside adds one page to their own count. Should this change push the reader's personal count into zero they must sit out the day.

Once in discussion said readers may only interact with those whose numbers are equal to or less than their own count. Those sitting out of reading for the day are not officially banned from conversation, but having their count on the lowest possible number means they can only be spoken to (but not respond to) people of higher counts or speak to others sharing their counts and so people who have not read today and will only be able to recount pages of previous days.

When one anon finishes the book, no matter where the other readers are, they will be given one day (The Lightning Round) to finish it themselves before the final discussion which will take place 24 hours after the first to finishes' post regarding their finish and will carry on for another 24 hours before the mods will be contacted to delete the thread for good and disallow any further conversation.

This is the official schedule and it will not see any changes unless this post ends in repeating digits.>>6649313

>> No.6649343

>“Mario, what do you get when you cross an insomniac, an unwilling agnostic and a dyslexic?"
>"I give."
>"You get someone who stays up all night torturing himself mentally over the question of whether or not there's a dog.”

Found this quote on Goodreads, guess I'll be joining you guys

>> No.6649347

>>6649314
I think this is a good idea, 10 pages as a baseline and a maximum of 15

>> No.6649356

I don't work well with reading schedules. Either I'll read in furious spurts, or I won't at all. A schedule is just too much hassle.

>> No.6649367

>>6649265
>yet again you project your own weird insecurities on to my post
i waited to attribute anything to you until you said it yourself, but it was apparent to me from the get go

and i'm not in the least bit insecure about reading on a schedule or reading sometimes being a chore. i use a schedule for anything even slightly difficult, but i'm determined to read a certain amount in a certain time

it's you who feel insecure about ONLY reading 10 pages a day. you who would be embarrassed to admit that you didn't read to the end of the chapter because you were too tired to. embarrassed because you couldn't read one more page -- you must be stupid right?

and that's the source of all this. that why you couldn't leave well enough alone and have to make this as, to your highly developed literary sensibility, faithful to the spirit of the text as possible.

only a pleb would let a crummy schedule spoil the beauty of the artist's intent in structuring the chapters. what kind of pleb would read on a schedule anyway? certainly not someone like yourself.

i'm not the proud one here. i need this schedule to finish the book. why do you think i'm arguing for it?

>> No.6649378

>>6649335
kek'd

>> No.6649406

>>6649367
ok you're clearly a fucking idiot so i will restate what i am proposing and greentext all of the parts that you keep ignoring

>I am perfectly happy with reading 10 pages on most days.
However I think that on some days when the next chapter is
>slightly less
or slightly more than 10 pages away we should raise
>or lower
the page count so that we can read break where the author intended there to be a break instead of potentially breaking 1 paragraph away from the end of a chapter or something equally ridiculous.

>I think we should write out the full schedule before we even start so that everyone is aware of what we are doing.

>I still want to read on a slow schedule,
I just don't think that the majority of /lit/ would read only 10 pages if the next chapter is 12 pages away.

>> No.6649451

>>6649406
i'm definitely not the idiot here. you're closer, but really you're just naive.
you've never done a reading schedule, so you don't get it.
you think there's something i don't understand about the difficulties in creating a regular schedule, but i understand it all because i've actually followed dozens of schedules and had to deal with all that shit.

and do you know what i found? the only way is to keep it regular. you can't make an exception every time it comes up in the schedule. the most important thing is the pace. if i want to keep reading, i will. if i want to stop early, i will. if i want to skip a whole page i will. but what is preserved is the pace. that's what keeps a schedule working. that's why i do it, and that's why you do it (whether or not you know it).

you're sitting there thinking about what it's going to be like thinking you know. but you don't know. we're talking a period of more than 3 months. i don't want to have to have to catch up 30 pages versus 20 pages when i have to eventually catch up. if i have to, i'll just give up and fall off the schedule. and i know because i've done it tons of times and it's discouraging.

why do you think this exists? do you think there's a reading group for broom of the system that reads 10 pages a day? it's because of the nature of this book and how infamously difficult it is. when i first started reading it, there were sections that i read that were just lists of shit where my eyes glazed over and i skipped. i would like to have an excuse to stop and actually look at it because, hey, i only need to focus on 10 pages today. that's just one example of something i encountered that made this book "hard". and no i'm not insecure about admitting that. the whole point is this book deserves something like this.

or maybe you're just too stupid to understand the difference between setting a consistent pace where you can read as much as you want versus actually scheduling varying lengths? this only gets compounded when the footnotes start getting going, which i've only scratched the surface of.

>> No.6649462

I think this is telling of how the daily discussions would work. We've written 25 pages of argument over how many pages to read of the book in a day.

>> No.6649470 [DELETED] 

Let's just do a chapter a day?

>> No.6649490

>>6649451
whats the point of a schedule that very few people will actually follow?

nobody is going to fucking stop reading when theres one more page before the end of the chapter, a schedule that is inflexible and doesn't take in to consideration the circumstances is a fucking stupid schedule.

>> No.6649559

>>6649470
some chapters are tiny
some chapters are huge

>>6649490
it's not a schedule. it's a pace
it's infinitely flexible, because you can finish the book in a day if you want. but at the same time WE don't have to. you can run ahead but the rest of us can keep pace.

maybe you're a NEET or something but probably at least a couple times a week I come home and have literally ZERO desire to read anything let alone infinite jest. and even when I was a kid my interest would wax and wane on the daily. don't you fucking dare tell me that you're above all that.

like i said, i doubt anyone will be ahead by a mile. all the little things add up over time. if you read ahead one day read 10-x pages the next day. what's so fucking hard about THIS?

>> No.6649592

>>6649559
>it's not a schedule. it's a pace
and keeping a baseline of 10 with small changes depending on chapter breaks will PRESERVE THE PACE you colossal retard, chances are it will still average out to 10 a day.

you act like 10 pages is a big endeavor when the whole point is that its a small, easily readable amount. If I read 14 pages to finish the chapter I don't want to read only 6 pages the next day unless the next section of the book is genuinely 6 pages long, how do you think discussion of the book will work if most of the people reading are 4 pages ahead of your 10 pages per day because they finished the chapter? Surely you will be pissed off when they discuss something that happened in those 4 pages and spoil a part of the book for you. How does discussion work if we don't read to the end of the chapter where feasible? "Oh shit that was a really great last page of a chapter we read today and nine pages of the next chapter, can't wait to read the half a page left of this chapter tomorrow to find out what fucking happens!!".

>> No.6649602

>>6649559
>you can finish the book in a day if you want.
I doubt anyone could with something the length of Infinite Jest.

>> No.6649631

>>6649592
there are a million situations like that

you are truly arrogant and narrow enough to believe that you are informing me of some possibility i have never before considered!

all of that has to be independent of the pace. all of that is just WHY i want there to be a pace.

if a chapter is 20 pages and something very important and engaging is happening on page 10, then it is your imperative as a reader to keep going, so you must keep reading! the schedule must be updated! it's only reasonable!

and it is. if you're reading like that. but we're NOT reading like that. and this is truly not a failure to communicate but a failure to UNDERSTAND on your part, to get a brand new thought through your too-tightly fused skull: we're reading in a different way than you would read a book by yourself -- isn't that why we're all in this fucking thread for christ sakes.

this is just the other side of the story you willfully miss. and i can't tell if you're doing it out of belief or out of ego at this point. and your only argument remains that this is that 10 extra pages is not a lot. and my response is that nothing is "a lot" but that the point of this was to coordinate the act of reading to a schedule, not to read as much as humanly possible.

so i saved us both two posts there. are we going to keep going round and round?

>> No.6649646

I read Infinite Jest a few summers ago. Here's how the schedule went for me

> A month for the first 200 pages or so
> Put it down for a month because of boredom
> Pick it back up again and read a little bit more
> Finish the rest of the book in about two weeks

I think it was around the time he was discussing the masks people were using for video phone calls that it really grabbed me.

>> No.6649647

>>6649631
>the schedule must be updated!
for the millionth fucking time i want to make a schedule BEFORE WE START

please try reading my posts before responding to them

you're accusing me of being close minded when we did a fucking poll and saw that most people prefer a schedule that takes in to account the chapter breaks - ignoring what the majority of people want and still pushing for your stupid shit makes YOU the one failing to understand the other side of the argument.

>> No.6649658

>>6649631
>not to read as much as humanly possible
and yet again you are completely fucking ignoring that I am advocating for reading LESS THAN 10 PAGES ON DAYS WHERE THE NEXT CHAPTER IS LESS THAN 10 PAGES AWAY

do you have some kind of amnesia or do you literally struggle with reading what i am writing? try and keep up you sillybrained fuck

>> No.6649671

If we want to organize it by content instead of pages, you would need to do it not based on chapter but by subchapters. The problem is that these subchapters can vary greatly in length. Some are only a few pages and some are a lot. Someone would have to go through and decide how to break it down. By pages would be better imo.

>> No.6649693

>>6649671
i'm bowing out. for once, i'm not the most mad person in a discussion.

maybe no one arguing but me has actually tried reading the book yet, but this guy gets it

also the poll is worded improperly. 10 pages a day prevents nothing. all it does is set a pace.

your arguments have consisted of 1) we're too sophisticated and literary to not finish a chapter 2) i) you ought to read extra when there is extra to read 2) ii) we're asking for a small amount of pages that somehow don't add up over time and 3) i can predict everything that's going to happen in this book and make sure we average 10 pages

to conclude i ask you to think about it this way
what if we found this:

wow interesting all the chapters are multiples of 10 pages. how convenient that he made it that way!

this is the double coincidence you're praying for and that should show you the flaw of your view.

anyways i'm done. whatever will be, will be. some people can only learn the hard way

>> No.6649704

It's better to read IJ at your own pace. It might be difficult at the beginning, but towards the end you'll be reading a lot of pages every day.

>> No.6649724

I don't know if this has been posted already, but here's a list of the book's chapters and scenes. Chapters vary greatly in length. However, scenes are short enough to break apart to have a relatively consistent amount to read per day. For example, Day 1: scenes 1, 2, and 3. Day 2: scenes 4, 5, and 6. This doesn't imply 3 scenes a day is the pace we want. Some scenes are 20 pages. Someone would have to go through and decide.

Here's the link
http://faculty.sunydutchess.edu/oneill/Infinite.htm

>> No.6649730

>>6649693
Of course im mad, you haven't addressed 2 important points even when I fucking greentexted them for you to highlight them, you've consistently ignored half my argument and exaggerated the other half, saying that I want everyone to read 50 pages per day. You're a dickhead who can't accept that he is talking complete shit.

>> No.6649745

>>6649693
Even in this post you claim that I want us to read extra when there is extra while completely ignoring that I also want us to read less when there is less. Perhaps you are ignoring these parts or my position because they make your position seem ridiculous in comparison? The only decent argument against letting content dictate the breaks somewhat is that its hard to make the schedule but there are people in this thread who are willing to do that

>> No.6649747

>>6649730
well a concluding fuck you to you too

yada yada you're a clueless piece of shit who hasn't even cracked the book

>> No.6649757

>>6649724
OP here -- thanks a bunch, this is extremely helpful.

Guys, please stop arguing about a schedule that has not been decided upon yet, and also realize that it will be flexible.

>> No.6649758

>>6649745
your readalong is going to fall apart to just one person, yourself, so i suppose i'll get a little satisfaction out of that, but not really because in the end we all lost out

>> No.6649762

>>6649747
Still no rebuttal to that half of my position because you literally have none and are just butthurt that you might have to read 3 extra pages some days to keep up

>> No.6649774

>>6649758
>>6649758
>>6649758
>>6649758

holy fuck you're a shithead
just to spite you ill make sure to stick along with OP

fuck you dude. you haven't even read IJ and if more than 10 pages a day is too much you hardly even belong here

>> No.6649803

>>6649774
i hope you get some satisfaction out of that while it lasts

though probably not as much as i will when i slowly but surely finish IJ in 3 months while you've already given up because this reading group fell apart and you found other things to do

in the end, i'm just really sad about all this. no matter what small good you try to do, an arrogant asshole will come along and destroy it for the sake of his own tiny ego.

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Would say I'm amazed at the butthurt over the 10 pages a day thing but this is /lit/. Won't be joining ya'll as I just recently finished it for the first time, wish I woulda done infinite summer, IJ is definitely a book I wish I could have discussed with people while reading.

Posting pic that you should save, will help you understand the location better.

>> No.6649887

>>6649803
>he hasn't already read Infinite Jest

Stop trying to father this project when you don't have the slightest idea what you're talking about.

>> No.6649892

>>6649880
>USA, Canada and Mexico have fused
but that's wrong

>> No.6649902

>>6649892

Yea, I would ignore that whole preamble thing. The map just kinda helps you picture the layout of Boston and ETA/Ennet's relation to it.

>> No.6649931

>>6645591
original você quer dizer em inglês or traduzindo?

se tiver traduzido, por favor, upload
http://pomf.se/ é um bom site que não precisa de cadastro

>> No.6649963

>>6649902
I mean, I didn't miss something right? All the politics with Canada/US are specifically them trying to fuck eachother over by putting the nuclear waste and shit in eachother's hands. Pretty sure they aren't working together. Also isn't there some war going on with Mexico? Or is that a different book? It's been a while ...

The great Concave/Convex is awesome

>> No.6649969

>>6649757
Man, can you make a schedule?

>> No.6649975 [DELETED] 

>>6649902
Also I found it fun myself to look up maps of Boston and figure shit out as I went

and the relation of ETA and Ennett was described in pretty great detail if I recall correctly

something about the junkies hiking up the wooded hill past ETA or whatever'

>tfw you will never go to ETA

>> No.6649983

>>6649902
Also I found it fun myself to look up maps of Boston and figure shit out as I went

and the relation of ETA and Ennett was described in pretty great detail if I recall correctly

something about the junkies hiking up the wooded hill past ETA or whatever'

>tfw you will never go to ETA

>> No.6649989

>>6649969
I'm making it right now. Come join me.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1HSl5qp0nYqYXp4zjHPN56OaD-Z6J7HvRbueCLY4m7Zw/edit?usp=sharing

>> No.6650002

>>6649989
The table is a little confusing as is. You may already be intending to do this, but a suggestion would be have "DAY" as the primary value determining no. of Rows and put "SCENE" numbers as secondary values that fill the columns. I apologize if this seems annoying/overly critical as you've just started working on it.

>> No.6650005

>>6649963

No, Canada, the US, and Mexico have been joined together in an almost EU kinda deal known as the Organization of North American Nations (ONAN). It's generally understood that Canada got the shortest, shittiest end of the stick from the deal due to the convexity/concavity and territorial redistribution, hence all the nationalists and terrorist cells.

>> No.6650024

>>6650002
Fair enough, I really have no idea how to change that though. Can you suggest an edit in Google itself if possible? Or I can just give you privileges.

>> No.6650044

I might get in on this, when are you starting?
don't feel like reading 200 posts right now, about to go to bed

>> No.6650049

>>6650044
June 14th

>> No.6650052

>>6650024
Set it to public I'll whip up a working chart and paste it.

>> No.6650065

>>6650052
It should be public now.

>> No.6650093

981 pages minus footnotes, starting on page 3.
978 / 10 is ~98, so 98 days minimum. Make 98 rows and fill the columns with their respective scenes chapters page nos.

I'm actually not sure how to do this on google docs but there should be a pretty simple 'input data' feature for the Rows/Columns and Day numberings. Pages grouped by 10's at default and they can be easily changed to better fit scene ends from there

>> No.6650099

>>6650093
Sorry, 98 days MAXIMUM

>> No.6650109

>>6650099
>>6650093
Okay, it should be fine in just a second. I put it in a spreadsheet which made it very simple to play around with.

>> No.6650130

>>6649356
i agree. i've been meaning to read the book and i want to have discussions about what i've read, but a strict 10 page limit won't work for me

>> No.6650152

>>6650130
read it alongside your usual reads
the 10 pages makes it inconsequential like that

>> No.6650177

> Not setting a strict word limit and sticking to it
> Not stopping your readings in the middle of sent

>> No.6650189

>>6650177
>not just telling people to read the book and then making a thread about it

>> No.6650301

>>6647788

i read tolstoy in elementary school

>> No.6650472

OP here

Please look over the first draft of the reading schedule:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1n_1lTKBdmyQD8C1yFs2V_Q52Gfa_hCnwSjPju3lIdVA/edit#gid=0

I also have a tripcode which I'll only use for logistical stuff from now on.

>> No.6650632

>>6650472
keep each day to 1 row, the schedule shouldn't be harder to read than the book is

>> No.6650653

>>6650472
also we do not need the year in this chart. the timeline is convoluted for a purpose and you should allow for someone to decide whether they want to use a guide for that or not

>> No.6650666

>>6650632
>>6650653
i don't think it's hard to read but agree that the day should be left to a single row

>also
>just for my personal interest
is anyone else going to print the scheduler?

>> No.6650740

>>6650666
>>6650653
>>6650632
At this point the pacing is the most important part.

>> No.6650753

>>6650740
the pace is pretty good, i think. people can read a bit more on some day and less on others should they please. more of a guideline than a rule

>> No.6650863

That's a good list. The way it's formatted now is better for the deciding phase. But when it's finalized I think it can be compressed down to one day per line so it's nice for readers. Having just 3 - 17 for day 1, for example.

>> No.6650913

I seen a few super short reading days that I think we should try to get rid of. Here's my suggestions for days we should combine:

12 and 13
14 and 15
48 and 49
54 and 55
73 and 74
76 and 77

I don't know how to edit the document. But hopefully this'll do.

>> No.6650932

>>6650666
I will print the schedule

>> No.6650976

>>6650913
Good catches, thanks.

>> No.6650997

>tfw all the people who pretend they've read IJ will actually read it now
>tfw IJ & DFW memeing will steadily increase, reaching critical mass by the end of the summer
>tfw the board is overrun with DFW avatar pics from that one interview, people using IJ's slang, and trolls saying Infinite Jest isn't a good book
>tfw every thread is about DFW
>tfw /lit/ is officially renamed /dfw/
>tfw the collective power of /dfw/'s autism brings DFW back from the dead
>tfw he finished The Pale King
>tfw it receives universal critical acclaim and is widely regarded as the greatest piece of literature ever written
>tfw even Harold Bloom recants his previous opinion of DFW and adds him to the Western Canon
>tfw New Sincerity sweeps the nation
>tfw everyone rejects irony and postmodernism
>tfw everyone who uses drugs or alcohol joins AA and gets clean
>tfw St. Dave brings about world peace
>tfw DFW begins working on the highly anticipated followup to The Pale King
>tfw he kill hisself again
>tfw the world is plunged into darkness at the loss of our guiding benefactor
>tfw World War III breaks out
>tfw nukes are launched
>tfw humanity annihilates itself

Th-thanks /lit/...

>> No.6651009

>>6650997
And then during autumn we'll read Ulysses.

>> No.6651383

http://strawpoll.me/4563359

>> No.6651761

belch

>> No.6652284

Is it alright to jump straight into IJ, or is it better to start with some of his other work?

>> No.6652291

>>6652284
start with the greeks

>> No.6652294

>>6652284
greek with the starts

>> No.6652306

>>6652284
Read some of his nonfic or short stories just to see if you like him. IJ is not that difficult to read other than how fucking long it is.

>> No.6652319

>>6652291
>>6652294
Is that a book by DFW?

>> No.6652371

I'm definitely in on this.

I have the hardcover copy of IJ and I think it would be for the best if we keep a minimum pace of 10 pages per day, but sometimes crank it up to, sat, 15 pages so as to not break the continuity of the chapters.

Should we make a skype group for small chit-chat and daily threads for more serious discussion? A closed skype group would eliminate the problem of shitposters and memers.

Also, as a non-native English speaker, I strongly urge all my fellows to check out the IJ-wiki; they've annotated the book - page by page so you get the most out of the book.

I sure hope this works better than the previous /lit/ bookclub, it was... should I say - subpar to my expectations?

>> No.6652413

When do we start?

>> No.6652425

>>6652413
From what I've gathered: on the 14th or the 21st. I'm not sure whether or not a fixed date has been established.

>> No.6652739

>>6652425
>http://strawpoll.me/4563359

>> No.6653056 [DELETED] 

>>6641496
white people reading something from a dead white male ahah. what's next, socrates? nerds

>> No.6653087

lol dude smoke weed everyday lmao

>> No.6653093

>>6652425
>either the 14 or the first day of summer

Fuck off, where did the 14th even come from?

>> No.6653118

>>6653056
Why are you summing they identify as white and male after death?

>> No.6653136

Im already almost 300 pages in. not sure if I wanna restart or just casually go through while everyone catches up

>> No.6653157

>>6641362
The site recced you brush up on your Hamlet before you read it. Is this true?

>> No.6653186

>>6653157
the title of the book is from Hamlet, so yeah, probably

>> No.6653347

>>6641362
Even le cuck is behind this

http://infinitesummer.org/archives/1486

>> No.6653528

>>6653157
If you haven't read fucking Hamlet ....

>> No.6653591

So how will this be discussed? in a weekly thread on here? in some IRC?

Isn't IJ like 1000+ pages? 10 pages a day would take forever to get through.

>> No.6653630

>>6653591
fuck off

>> No.6653633

>>6653591
The revised schedule is no longer ten pages a day. >>6650472

>> No.6653652

>>6653633
Except for when it is. But it's good. Our read will take 69 days as of this schedule, with the original schedule taking nearly 100.

>> No.6653657

>>6652371
I like the idea of a Skype group but I honestly don't feel like putting myself on a screen in front of all of you is going to be a positive thing.

>> No.6653672

>>6653633
Fuck, I misread, sorry

>> No.6653682

>>6653657
no skype

>> No.6653711

>>6653682
Could we use some sort of anonymous IRC?

>> No.6653724

>>6653711
This could work. I found a guide here on how to set it up.

https://botbot.me/how-to-setup-irc-channel/

>> No.6653841

Well alright I guess I'm in.

>> No.6653894

we should do this consistently tbh. after this do another book (perhaps mason and dixon or something similar?) and read them all 10 pages at a time with discussion threads. it'll be a fun way to keep a sort of book club going without too much hassle if you miss a day and books that can be read alongside your current reads

>> No.6653904

>>6653894
Let's just focus on trying to one to start with. This has certainly been tried and has failed before.

>> No.6653918

why don't we just take it easy for the casual readers? say we read a word per day instead. then it will only take one and a half thousand years to finish the book

>> No.6653938

>>6653918
top kek

>> No.6653962

>>6653894
>we should do this consistently tbh
We could also try to read a shorter book concurrently.

>> No.6654013

>>6653711
>>6653724
The only problem with a live-chat service would be the problem with time difference for different people, hence why a board/forum would be better suited.

>> No.6654014

>>6653711
>>6653724
whats wrong with using /lit/, its a lot better than an irc since you can talk to people who aren't in similar timezones to you

>> No.6654027

>>6654013
>>6654014
damn...

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6654033

>>6654014
2spooky, we both posted pretty much the exact same thing at the exact same time....

>> No.6654046

>>6654027
>>6654033
fuck

>> No.6654069

>>6654033
im leaving this thread its getting too weird

>> No.6654145

I already started it and I'm 60 pages in. Not sure if I should press on or wait for the start date.
So far, the book is the most unbearable thing I've read.

>> No.6654231

And but so when do we start?

>> No.6654313

>>6654231
June 14th

>> No.6654474

>>6654014
>>6654013
The only problem with doing the discussion here is inordinate number of memeposters who will inevitably shit up the threads.

>> No.6654565

>>6654474
We could create a subreddit!

>> No.6654768

OP here
I'm getting stuff together for the next thread since this thread is bloated and coming to an end anyways.
If you have any questions please let me know because I would like to get an FAQ together.

We have a Tumblr ( http://summeroflit.tumblr.com ) which will have all relevant information, reading reminders, and whatever else people want from it.

As for discussions, I don't think it makes sense to discuss 10 - 20 new pages every day, which leads me to thinking weekend discussions (here on /lit/) are the best idea. Leaving Saturday/Sunday for discussions would also give people who may have fallen behind throughout the week some time to catch up.

We could also use an IRC room for people who want to stop by and chat throughout the week, though it would probably be best to try and set specific times of the day for that as well rather than just have a bunch of idle users and only one or two people talking.

>> No.6654986

>>6641362
You need to read for at least 80 minutes a day or you won't make it

>> No.6655011

Physical or digital is the preferred format?

I looked at the physical book and the end notes don't seem too crazy. I thought it was going to be like House of Leaves with its shenanigans.

>> No.6655027

>>6654768
PUT THE FUCKING DAYS INTO 1 ROW EACH, YO

>> No.6655040

I'm excited for all this you guys

>> No.6655054

>>6655027
Chill

>> No.6655256

>>6655040
Me too, I really can't wait.

Reading is so much more fun when you can talk about it.

>> No.6655304 [DELETED] 

Reading Infinite Jest in my first year of College was probably the most fun I'll ever have with literature. I'm excited to revisit it. The book itself is maybe not so profound, but having read it during one of the best times of my life was pretty special. This will be a chance to revisit not only great literature but great memories. Excited.

>> No.6655332

heres a radical idea - seeing as its a /lit/ project?

simply have a running thread ON FUCKING /lit/ to discuss the book. When the thread gets to bump limit? - start another one.

Thus, shall be the /lit/ project, contained to one familiar place, where everybody knows the score, and can contribute (or not) at any time, and, its anon, which is probably agreed as a good thing, seeing as how we all here in the first place, etc.

I dunno, Skype, and IRC, and Wikis and Tumblrs and oh look, a squirrel. You all frigging mad, no wonder, nothing gets done - howsabout /lit/, and, good is?

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6655386

>summer is looking boring
>see this thread
>mfw this summer will be an infinite jest™

>> No.6655395

>>6655386
I'm really hoping to see some rare wallaces in these threads tbh

>> No.6656316

>>6654768
I think just having a running thread on lit is best. And being able to discuss it whenever we fell like is better than trying to schedule it. Plus, i prefer discussing everyday. And we don't need to just focus on the day's pages but everything up till then too. Doing on lit is just the most flexible.

>> No.6656359

>>6655332
Wow, solid input champ. Nobody thought of that, I guess.

That's exactly what we're doing .. the only offsite stuff is the schedule and stuff.

>> No.6656639

>>6648874
I'm not using tumblr

>> No.6656766

>>6656639
The Tumblr is only a reference for the guide.

>> No.6656891

>mfw Americans need a schedule to instruct them to read a novel

>> No.6657192

>>6656891
You're missing the point. It's so we can discuss the novel during the read, like a book club.

>> No.6657212

>>6657192
He doesnt care let hin post his epic reddit memes

>> No.6657250

>>6657192
Of course, nothing says 'well-read' like conducting a book club.

>> No.6657277 [DELETED] 

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>> No.6657684

>>6656891
how do you even know the nationalities of people posting in this thread you fool?

Oh wait, you don't

.t Candian master race

>> No.6657925

I have never seen this book in store
how 2 cop?

>> No.6657944

>>6657925
1. Hav a cheeky nandos
2. Leave (feelin real cheeky) and walk 2 ur nearest library
3. Ask about le super secret meme club
4. Librarian will refer u 2 the nearest book shop
5. Present the store clerk with an OC meme
6. If they like it, they'll supply you with a rare fresh copy of the Infinite Jest and you'll forever be in a state of uncontrolled bliss/euphoria

>> No.6658230

>>6657684
American is shorthand for 'trivial mind'.

>> No.6658314

New thread:
>>6658310

>> No.6659007

>>6654231
lol'd