/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.6588875]

Why haven't you killed yourself /lit/?

[Anonymous No.6588879]

>>6588875

Its already too late for that

[Anonymous No.6588885]

>>6588875
i want to, but i think some people may be affected by my hypotetical suicide and that's bothers me.

[Anonymous No.6588891]

>>6588885
My first thought was how arrogant of you but that speaks more about me than anything, don't kill yourself anon

[Anonymous No.6588895]

>>6588875
Still working on my magnum opus(s), so until then I will try to survive long enough...

[Anonymous No.6588899]

Cause it is not my will to do so

[Anonymous No.6588909]

>>6588895
Forgot to add, there is so many books I haven't read, songs I havent heard, art I havent seen etc...life is experience right?

[Anonymous No.6588912]

Because unlike the population of the board, I'm going places
Enjoy being miserable failures :^)

[Anonymous No.6588919]

Bad timing. In 2 hours I'm going to watch Mad Max with my 10 year younger fuck buddy, we're gonna cook something before I literally advise her in how to suck cock. Tomorrow we're going on a trip to Italy.
Maybe after I contemplate suicide.

btw. I read Schoppenhauers On Women on the weekend, pretty funny
http://www.theabsolute.net/misogyny/onwomen.html
http://gutenberg.spiegel.de/buch/-4995/1

[Anonymous No.6588923]

Because mother would be upset.
And the Jews would win.

[Anonymous No.6588924]

Only optimists commit suicide, the optimists who can no longer be...optimists. The others, having no reason to live, why should they have any to die?

[Anonymous No.6588949]

>>6588875
I (personally) know there is an afterlife and I'm anticipating it and all, but it isn't my time yet.

When I kill myself (not out of desperation or sadness or anything, obviously) I will be fully prepared for the afterlife.

[Anonymous No.6588962]

>>6588949
But that is a mortal sin anon, unless of course you're a heretic but you aren't that anon are you?

[Anonymous No.6588969]

>>6588962
I'm not "christian" (I pretty much stop believing in the Bible after genesis)

But even if I was, I would think it depends on the person's circumstances and reasons

[Anonymous No.6589008]

>implying people here aren't coward christian faggots who are hiding behind sins

[Anonymous No.6589022]

becuase I dont want my mother to cry

[Anonymous No.6589024]

I have some work to do first bb.

[Anonymous No.6589044]

I've killed myself in all my previous lives. This is the one to break the cycle

[Anonymous No.6589085]

because life is fun, except when it isn't fun, but then you just wait for the fun parts

it's that easy

[Anonymous No.6589092]

>>6588909
girls I haven't fuck

[Anonymous No.6589098]

>>6588909

>implying the books you will read, the songs you will hear and the art you will see are not just pure shit already.

[Anonymous No.6589103]

>>6589022
>this

[twinshia !b2E8KBMQGk No.6589120]

>implying choice in itself

[Anonymous No.6589121]

Schopenhauer was against suicide, so I'm not sure why you'd use a picture of him.

[twinshia !b2E8KBMQGk No.6589128]

>>6589121
In Parerga and Paralipomena he seems to condone it,
which was not and is not the popular opinion.

[Anonymous No.6589181]

>>6588879
If you're still alive, you still have the time to kill yourself? I'm confused.

[Anonymous No.6589250]

Because I have yet to read Suicide Note by Mitchell Heisman.

[Anonymous No.6589270]

Why would I? Death will happen eventually anyways.

[Anonymous No.6589281]

My parents, I guess? Just gotta keep waiting until I shall finally be unhappy enough to actually do it.

[Anonymous No.6589292]

>>6589281
>killing yourself because you aren't "happy"

[Anonymous No.6589310]

>>6588875
One must imagine Sisyphus happy OP, that's why.

[Anonymous No.6589317]

i just did.
Currently in heaven sucking poon juice out ya dads asshole.

[Anonymous No.6589320]

too scared

[Anonymous No.6589332]

>>6589292
Yeah well, whatever, dude.

[Anonymous No.6589338]

>>6589332
you can learn, friend

[Anonymous No.6589371]

>>6588919
How old are you? How do I manage to get a fuck friend?

do you lover/she loves you?

[Anonymous No.6589376]

There's people I care about who would be sad cause of it

[Anonymous No.6589431]

My family would be sad.

[Anonymous No.6589450]

>>6588891
>My first thought was how arrogant of you but that speaks more about me than anything
it's not a matter of arrogance really, when i mean people i mean just my parents, which would care to a certain extend because the are biologically inclined to do so

[Anonymous No.6589453]

>>6588875
Because suicide is fervent and emotional. Pain is reality, i would never forsake my reality for the sake of ignorance, for a world unbeknownst to the dead is still a world.

[Anonymous No.6589459]

>>6588875
Because to do such a thing would be to spite God.

[Anonymous No.6589461]

>>6589338
I doubt that.

[Anonymous No.6589465]

Waiting for neuroscientists to come up with a way to turn yourself into a philosophical zombie/shut down consciousness. All the benefits of suicide with none of the drawbacks.

[Anonymous No.6589469]

I think about it everyday...

I hate my family. I should do it.

[Anonymous No.6589530]

>>6588875
Because I don't take philosophical advice from a loser cuck who lived and died alone without a friend in the world.

[Anonymous No.6589532]

>>6589461
i am you
you are me

we aren't "two separately functioning beings", what happens to you happens to me, and what happens to me is happening in you, on some level. we are interdependent of each other. believe me when i say you can learn, because I couldn't lie to you even if i wanted to.

you can learn that it's okay to be unhappy sometimes (even all the time), and how to cure it (spoiler alert: it isn't SSRI's, lel). and that reacting to it with suicide is not good. suicide is fine, but only at the proper time and for the proper reasons friend.

[Anonymous No.6589575]

>>6588875
suicide is pure ideology *sniffs*, the escape from ideology is in it self pure ideology and so on...

[Anonymous No.6589580]

>>6589530
I hope you weren't referring to Schoppy, since you would be a total ignorant faggot if you were.

[Anonymous No.6589583]

has there ever ben a purely metaphysical suicide?

[Anonymous No.6589595]

>>6589465
Lobotomy is probably the closest thing you're going to get.

[Anonymous No.6589610]

>>6589583
das 2 dep mane

[Anonymous No.6589626]

>>6589530

More like Nietzsche

[Anonymous No.6589638]

>>6589595
I want my body to keep going on as usual after "death" to avoid pain for loved ones, they wouldn't be able to tell the difference in the case of a p-zombie).

[Anonymous No.6589683]

It is not within my power to make that decision.

[Anonymous No.6589686]

>>6588875
because I'm coward

[Anonymous No.6589688]

>>6588875
i'm already dead

[Anonymous No.6589689]

>>6589181
Oh, new Anonsky, you don't understand that it is DFW himself posting from beyond the veil, forced to shitpost for all eternity.

[Anonymous No.6589703]

Because it would make the world and my life worse (on average and in total).

[Anonymous No.6589717]

>>6589689
That's a fair punishment for being a suicidal faggot and overusing footnotes.

[Anonymous No.6589765]

Because I'm a little bitch.
I'd take non-existence over suffering any day of the week, but actually killing yourself, that's quite a commitment man.

[Anonymous No.6589796]

Because occasionally there are fleeting moments of beauty that make life worthwhile to me

[Anonymous No.6589822]

>>6589022
This is literally the only reason.

[Anonymous No.6589829]

>>6589703
Are you sure about that?

[Anonymous No.6589839]

>>6589022

Yeah, that's what I think about. My mom is over-emotional/unstable, although not in a clinical sense. But she would probably lose her fucking mind in the grief.

[Anonymous No.6589842]

>>6589829
Yeah.

[Anonymous No.6589857]

>>6589839
you a third worlder my nigga?

[Anonymous No.6589861]

Anyone want to make a suicide pact?
I'm planning on doing it on Friday when I get paid then I'm going to kill myself with a heroin overdose. I'll go it alone but it would be nice if someone came along for the ride.

[Anonymous No.6589865]

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[Anonymous No.6589870]

>>6589861
where you at doe?

[Anonymous No.6589878]

>>6589085
b-but, anon... t-the fun parts... they never come

[Anonymous No.6589891]

>>6589870
I live near New haven ct

[Anonymous No.6589955]

>>6588875
Are there any situations in which Camus found suicide to be prudent? I would think Mersault after he is sentenced, given the apparent certainty of a deprivation of pleasure, but did Camus say anything in Sisyphus on the matter?

[Anonymous No.6589974]

>>6589583

I remember reading an article about a couple in India who killed themselves together. They were in their mid thirties, married, had successful careers, a house, no health issues, friends and family, had traveled a lot, and generally had good lives. From what I understand they were pretty rich too.

They reasoned that they had lived fully and that they were content with what they had done in life. Sort of like going out on a high note. They also wanted to die together, as a couple.

They didn't appear to be rationalizing depression or failure or unhappiness. I remember when I read the article it didn't make me sad at all, their story and suicide seemed so serene.

It's probably one of the very few instances in human history where suicide wasn't motivated by misery or desperation.

[Anonymous No.6589987]

“I did not, however, commit suicide, because I wished to know more of mathematics.”
— Bertrand Russell

As good a reason as any. There tends to be something worth doing.

[Anonymous No.6589990]

>>6589974
if we made a truly self aware AI, wouldn't it kill itself in a form of an oxymoronic survival mechanism?

[Anonymous No.6590000]

>>6589580
>had one 17 year old girl who "respected him for his philosophical beliefs"
>believes women don't mature mentally past age 16, but men mature up to age 28 (coincidentally around the same time he wrote Studies in Pessimism)
>not a total fucking cuck
Debate me, atheist.

[Anonymous No.6590065]

>>6589857

No. Why'd you think that?

[Anonymous No.6590069]

>>6590000

He had numerous sexual affairs. There's nothing to debate.

[Anonymous No.6590071]

>>6590000
quads confirm

[Anonymous No.6590079]

>>6590069
hit me with that source friendo

[Anonymous No.6590105]

>>6589085
This

[Anonymous No.6590155]

>there's yet enjoyment to be had in this world
>i'm not a convicted felon, quadriplegic, or eunuch
>i'm not in a dead end job that I hate
>there's books to read
>there's vidya to play
>there's movies to watch
>there's girls to fug
>I haven't grown out my hair long enough to see what the topknot looks like
>weed and other fun drugs

also >>6589022

I figure if I do end up offing myself, I'd go about it in one of two ways, and by then all of my friends and family would be dead or gone.

>Hike up some snowy mountain naked with a bottle of jack and die of hypothermia, comfy and drunk
>OD for my first time on heroin

[Anonymous No.6590202]

>>6590155
does not living for pleasure only speed up the fleeting of the novelty of life?
isn't consciousness a detrimental thing at this point?

[Anonymous No.6590233]

>>6590202
"Pleasure" is made up of a lot of components for me. I gain it from my accomplishments, my hedonism, people, etc., but since literally none of those are permanent, I might as well masturbate.

>isn't consciousness a detrimental thing at this point
This is so fucking stupid that I don't even know where to start with you.

[Anonymous No.6590237]

>>6589688
fuckin' depressing
nice dubs nice fish what is it? does it taste good^^

[Anonymous No.6590241]

>>6590233
start with the greeks

[Anonymous No.6590253]

>>6590233
>This is so fucking stupid that I don't even know where to start with you.
go on then, the fact suicide happens in humans is proof that consciousness is detrimental

[None !!lZetafI6z8s No.6590265]

lots of stuff i want to do

[Anonymous No.6590269]

>>6588875
Because my family's already had one suicide and I know the damage it does.

[Anonymous No.6590275]

i'm holding out for a tragic illness so i can die guilt-free

[Anonymous No.6590277]

>>6590233

>This is so fucking stupid that I don't even know where to start with you.

why?

[Anonymous No.6590289]

>>6590253
Animals commit suicide. Notably, dogs have been known to drown themselves after their owner died.

[Anonymous No.6590303]

>>6590289
you do realise that changes nothing?

[Anonymous No.6590311]

>>6589990
That doesn't make sense

[Anonymous No.6590312]

>>6590311
explain

[Anonymous No.6590330]

I don't know. I probably will. I'm older than the average /lit/fag and thought I had gotten past suicidal ideation, but then shit hit the fan and I'm literally back to where I was at age 18. Except now I'm in a shitload of debt and have less friends.

I don't think I'll kill myself now, but I have lost complete faith in the idea of the future. Maybe this is a good thing.

[Anonymous No.6590337]

>>6590312
I think you need to explain why the AI would kill itself.

[Anonymous No.6590350]

>>6590337
so lets say it a true AI, if it was to consider every possibility with its inherent intelligence wouldn't it just kill itself?

[Anonymous No.6590352]

>>6590330
So you're 19?

[Anonymous No.6590359]

>>6588875

Because I don't have the free will to do so.

[Anonymous No.6590365]

>>6590311

It does, if he would grassple that the illusions that the culture sells to us are merely stupid small over-flavoured, over-tastier and too-sugared-sweet cakes that are eaten and then wasted on the same day, he would see that wasting so much time in between is pointless and ultimately he would kill himself.

That's what most people do anyway, whether they are dying and living 20 days more is pointless, or whether they see that living 20 years more is also pointless.

And also to make a extremely self-aware robot you have to implement some sort of reward and punishment system, like pain, to make him reaction to unexpected situations in context. You can't make a self-aware robot only from implicit rules because it lacks the *aware* part

[Anonymous No.6590366]

>>6588875
if i die then everyone in my reality dies as well

[Anonymous No.6590371]

>>6590365

holy shit my english suck

[Anonymous No.6590375]

>>6590350
I don't see any possible reason, suicide is inherently illogical

[Anonymous No.6590390]

>>6590253
>>6590277

Ultimately, it doesn't matter whether or not consciousness is detrimental. Even worrying about it could be considered a waste of time and effort, and degrades my own experience.

If we use your argument regarding suicide as proof of the uselessness of consciousness, the fact that most people die old/due to age complications proves that it isn't some sort of catastrophic failure. There's a failure rate of <5%, it doesn't show that it's so much of a burden that it could be considered detrimental to literally everyone. Just you, and the rest of the minority.

Even if it is a negative thing, consider this: it doesn't matter. Indifference to life is far more pleasurable than looking at a single negative aspect of one's self and then judging that suicide is the next logical conclusion. That's like knowing your dog is about to die someday, or that its own self awareness would lead it to unhappiness, so you determine that you should kill it to... what? Save it from its own meaninglessness? Why attack an animal or end it based on your own determinations? I'm going to extend this to the idea that your life is not truly your own, but is a major component of others' life. By killing yourself, you violate others' property in that you cause mental and emotional harm and remove yourself from their lives.

Now if you go back to my original post you'll see that I do plan on killing myself eventually, when all value of mine has been lost. Until then, I acknowledge that my body is not my own and to kill myself is to react in such an extreme way that it could be likened to killing somebody's dog because its consciousness is some sort of burden.

[Anonymous No.6590391]

>>6590375

lel, living life is inherently illogical, there is no logic, no knowledge that makes you keep living, only your desire to keep living which is innately something illogical and undeterminated.

[Anonymous No.6590396]

>>6590365
>stupid small over-flavoured, over-tastier and too-sugared-sweet cakes

[Anonymous No.6590398]

>>6590375
lol that statement presupposes a teleology which doesn't exist.

[Anonymous No.6590405]

>>6590398
It's stated the AI has a survival mechanism and therefore an imperative to live

[Anonymous No.6590409]

>>6590375
>suicide is inherently illogical
oddly enough suicide does become a survival mechanism, even in lesser forms of inteligence, people/animals will chose suicide over survival related reasons, its an oxymoron but it is not illogical, there is no law of the mind, there is too much variation.

[Anonymous No.6590419]

>>6590409
AI have laws of the mind

[Anonymous No.6590436]

>>6590390
the need for things to matter derives from fear, paranoia and the human pattern finding instinct which probably evolved into what we call consciousness, suicide is the best move you can make but you dotn have to.

[Anonymous No.6590447]

>>6590390

How can you actually find value in things and at the same time have an indifference towards life? It's like damage control for me. You either find life valuable in itself or you don't, and that's goes back towards if the small niche things you get in life make up for all the rest of it desiring and else, or if it's all the same in the end.

>>6590419

To make a real conscious AI you need a holistic relationship with the context, you can't make a self-contained AI with only laws and expect it to be self-aware

[Anonymous No.6590449]

>>6590405
that's what i get for replying to a post w/o reading the thread

[Anonymous No.6590454]

>>6590409
So you're saying that suicide as a personal survival mechanism isn't illogical?

[Anonymous No.6590456]

>tfw you can just dismiss all reasons that life is shit as spooks
>tfw even if the pessimists were right you'd still not kill yourself just out of spite

[Anonymous No.6590474]

>>6590436
>>6590447

>suicide is the best move you can make
Now at this point you're assigning value to something that has none. Nothing does. It doesn't matter.

At the same time, while living doesn't contain value from the philosophical standpoint, one can realize some sort of value from their brain's chemical makeup and give to your body that which it naturally assigns value, namely, the products of hedonism and the mental wellbeing of yourself and others. Acknowledging that we're just flesh containers with chemical responses is liberating and allows you to observe your own body's reactions to what is possible in life.

Suicide reduces your life's value to zero. Being a flesh machine raises it to whatever your nerves claim it to be.

[Anonymous No.6590478]

>>6590447
It doesn't need 'only' laws, but any AI will have laws.

Humans have laws of the mind.

[Anonymous No.6590479]

>>6590456
this tbh

[Anonymous No.6590491]

>>6588875
cuz my mom is mentally and psychologically unstable, and will probably do some crazy shit if i commit suicide

only thing i can hope for is dying in an accident

[Anonymous No.6590501]

>>6590474
>Suicide reduces your life's value to zero
what in the fuck are you saying mongoloid

[Anonymous No.6590505]

>>6590474
so youre just rationalizing this so you can keep living?
just proves >>6590436

''philosophy was a mistake''- Prefrontal cortex

[Anonymous No.6590508]

>>6588919
Marmorkuchen is one of the worst kinds of cake. Sucks to be you.

[Anonymous No.6590519]

>>6588875
Russell Brand is a twat but I like the phrase "addicted to consciousness".

[Anonymous No.6590540]

>>6590474

You are keeping existence from a naive point, merely that there is only plus value which is *experiences*

but once you go further, experiences are made from pain and pleasure, the thing about life value is that once you see that pleasure is just *lack of pain* (because, in the presence of the smallest pain a pleasurable moment can banish to nothing) then the most pleasurable thing is lack of everything, which is non-existence.

Your view about experiences is just merely propaganda, it's good for the people to see their lifes as an ends towards experiences, but it's not what really happens in every moment.

Consciousness aggravates this even more because when I was a baby if i had desire, boredom or pain i didn't really experienced it, maybe some flashes in a dream but it wasn't that constant. Once you are adult there is this eerie feeling of reality that makes desire much more real. It's even worse once you see that even if you are having pleasure you have this bad feeling about how it's gonna end and how you have to extend it even further.

[Anonymous No.6590542]

>>6590501
As in, you no longer gain value from anything if you're dead.

>>6590505
It hardly proves it. Suicide ends your brainfleshnerve's enjoyment. As long as enjoyment exists, suicide is far from the 'best move' to make. Once it's all gone though, then suicide is logical. Most people find meaning in the creation of offspring and the raising of a new generation, but if one is NEET, childless, crippled, or impotent, then suicide would therefore be logical as there's nothing left to give their physical body. For the grand majority of people, it's not the case and would be an illogical move.

[Anonymous No.6590551]

>>6590540

Adding to it, that pleasure and joy has diminishing returns, even comformity, which is a fucking really good thing that nobody had for almost all the humanity, a thing that whoever slave in the past could have, has diminishing returns, in the sense that too much comfort gives you to boredom and tediousity, and then you have to go back to pain and suffering to keep yourself entertained. Life is just a balance between pain and boreness which the solution is one of the two

[Anonymous No.6590554]

>>6590542
>you no longer gain value from anything if you're dead
what do you mean by value? do you gain any value from anything if you're alive? do you have any evidence from this? can you prove this without using anecdotes?

[Anonymous No.6590559]

>>6590551

a thing that whoever slave in the past could desire to have*

[Anonymous No.6590565]

>>6590542
youve crafted an ideology and are its prisoner now *pulls shirt* yet you claim to have ben freed through existentialism, only death can save you from ideology.

[Anonymous No.6590608]

>>6589371
20. Be nice. Yes. Yes.

[Anonymous No.6590623]

>>6590608

[Anonymous No.6590625]

>>6590540
Your argument presumes that I believe a person must only live for the 'now' and that if one isn't constantly enjoying oneself then he should die. That is not the case. One can find comfort in the statistical guarantee that enjoyment exists in the future (unless literally all options have been exhausted) and that investing in one's current and future happiness, physical and emotional is of greater value (assigned by your flesh and brain) than simply ending it.

>>6590551
I could say that immediately assigning boredom to enjoyment is fairly naive. As long as you live, there's so many new and different things to do and experience (not just that which is considered enjoyment) that if one becomes bored with one thing, then there's another to discover, whether it be in the form of work and accomplishment (which could be considered pleasure for some).

If you're bored, then your body desires stimulation and your mind will work to find that which stimulates. From there it's just a matter of figuring it out.

>>6590554
>What do you mean by value
As in, your skin container's chemical vat upstairs orders that you do certain things to fulfill its needs. It places value on things based on its own happiness associated with it; you have no control over that.

>do you gain any value from anything if you're alive
Maybe your mind doesn't, but your body does because it is forced to do so. Consider everyone along for the ride in their bodymobiles.

>do you have any evidence from this
Only that the human race has existed only to fulfill its unquenchable needs

>can you prove this without using anecdotes
No. Then again, I'm just anon and don't know much about the world. I'm sharing what little I've presumed.

>>6590565
*sniff*

[Anonymous No.6590634]

>>6590625
i was serious doe

t. zizek poster

[Anonymous No.6590641]

>>6588875
I refuse to write a note and think it doesn't make sense to do so, as my suicide is my own business and it shouldn't matter to others why I do it, but an episode of Seinfeld said you have to write a note, so I think it would be funny to write a note because of Seinfeld. Thus the issue is that I still refuse to write a serious note, and I fear I'll write something dumb on purpose, like "Bazinga!" or just put my copy of IJ near my body, open to a random page

I might just work on a fake cryptic message about how I uncovered something I shouldn't have, so that my note would be my only literary accomplishment.


Actually, fuck it, I'll be honest. The reason I'm still alive is my backlog is too big.

[Anonymous No.6590649]

>>6590625
>It places value on things based on its own happiness associated with it
so value = happiness? so if death brings me happiness will i accrue maximum value?

>your body does because it is forced to do so
what do you mean by this? you mean by the release of chemicals? can you prove this has value? are the mind and body separate things to you? can you explain why this is?

>Only that the human race has existed only to fulfill its unquenchable needs
are you sure this is why we exist? what makes you think the human race has needs? what makes you think they are unquenchable?

[Anonymous No.6590670]

>>6589085
that's actually a really good response tbh

makes sense when you make it so simple

[Anonymous No.6590678]

>>6590625

I must add that I found being pessimistic much more aesthetic in life than being optimist, you must have to be contrarian man.

[Anonymous No.6590687]

>>6588912
please respond

[Anonymous No.6590690]

>>6590649
I genuinely want to address your questions but I have to go to a meeting, after which I have a homework sesh with bros. If I can find the thread after that I'll get back to you.

[Anonymous No.6590698]

Anyone else overwhelmed with the number of possible ways to do it? I think a huge thing holding me back is I don't know how I want to go out. Like, I think a gun would be fun as an ebin pun (going out with a bang), but it's very possible you'd fuck it up and miss, and become a fucking vegetable. My dad knows I hate the Wounded Warrior Project because seriously injured soldiers are forced to live as zombies for their cunt wives who are too selfish to let them go, but I still feel my parents would shit on my decisions and put me on life support if I survive a gunshot to my face. Drowning could be dope though. Woolf's way was pretty neat. Or maybe I should try to mock Mishima's

[Anonymous No.6590721]

>>6590698
take a heroin overdose faggot

[Anonymous No.6590722]

>>6590698
if i were to do it i would go the CO route

painless and theres no fucking it up you will die

[Anonymous No.6590726]

>>6590698
why not be an original, an real hero.

[Anonymous No.6590839]

The fact that I'm aware freaks me out but it is at least something and it's easy to give in and just live life. I see depression like a hole from which it is really hard to crawl out of. I also look at life and everything I think about in the same way. Anything you do is a hole that drags you towards itself until you get bored of it. You gradually lose interest, it doesn't bother you anymore... you just crawl out of the hole and at the moment you think you're out, you just fell into a new one and you won't even notice it. (*sniff* ideology) Being aware that you can never get out might make you aware of the holes, but again, it won't get you out of them. If you have sucidal thoughts... Nothing will help except time it takes to find a new hole to fall into. If you can't find something you like... Find something you don't like and do it. Create yourself a fake purpose in life like... Making bad metaphors and trying to look smart on the internet. You won't even notice how retarded and useless it is. And whatever you do, don't fall in the biggest hole of all... Your mom. You're welcome.

[Anonymous No.6591031]

Being alive is interesting as fuck tbh.

[Anonymous No.6591169]

>>6590839
dis nigga gets it, pure unescapable ideology, fleeting novelty..*violently tugs shirt*

[Anonymous No.6591175]

>>6590726
Because my iPod's never been stolen

>>6590721
Well I plan on trying heroin before I do it anyway, but I think it's cliche to overdose. Maybe I'll go for a speedball

[Anonymous No.6591199]

>>6589532
>i am you
>you are me
2deep4me

>what happens to you happens to me
Got any proof for that, Obi-Wan?

>you can learn that it's okay to be unhappy sometimes
Well thanks for letting me know, I know it's fucking okay, you idiot.

>reacting to it with suicide is not good
>suicide is fine
Well what's it gonna be now?

[Anonymous No.6591223]

>>6588875
I fucked up and had a kid. Now I have to be responsible even though all I ever wanted out of life was to scrape by with enough free time to work on art. I'd love to be dead though. I imagine dying in big accidents often and it brings a smile to my face to think that I might get what I want in a way that doesn't tarnish my family's opinion of me. I'd very much like to give up.

[Anonymous No.6591265]

>implying we aren't choosing not to suicide merely to troll those that wish we would

[Anonymous No.6591276]

>>6591265
living out of spite? that's pathetic anon

[Anonymous No.6591284]

I don't got no type. Bad bitches is the only thing that I like. You ain't got no life. Cups with the ice and we do this every night. - Jesus Christ

This is why I like what I like. I don't second guess, I just roll the dice. I've been living life like I lived twice.

[Anonymous No.6591295]

>>6591223

I'm in the same situation and I agree with you up to the very last bit. To me death isn't giving up, I just long for the eternal rest. Probably because I a chronic anxiety condition and sleep is my dearest friend most of the time.

The idea that I'm going to die doesn't really bring me peace though, because I know that more than likely I'm going to die as an old man in this society and the idea of getting old and decrepit is a bit insulting to one's character.

Also, though momentarily, I'd love to give in to the selfishness of enjoying one's own untimely death, I actually care for other people and I know that me dying would be a detriment to their lives so I consciously choose to carry on and take the slow path to death.

[Anonymous No.6591300]

>>6591276

>not living to troll

why are you even here?

[Anonymous No.6591304]

>>6588875
I tell myself that I bear witness...The truth is it's obviously my programming.

[Anonymous No.6591308]

I live to kill everything on this planet.

[Anonymous No.6591312]

I'm weighing the costs of making my family sad temporarily versus disappointing them repeatedly in the long term.

[Anonymous No.6591313]

>>6591300
TROLL TO LIVE

LIVE TO TROLL

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=617PA7VdIeY

[Anonymous No.6591318]

>>6591295
I'm the anon you responded to.

Your whole post resonated with me. Sleep is the only thing that brings me any relief.

[Anonymous No.6591330]

>>6591313
Let's see what Zizek has to say about that.

https://youtu.be/dQw4w9WgXcQ

[Anonymous No.6591335]

>>6591313

lelele, i thought you were gonna post this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pEcpwSenouQ

[Anonymous No.6591336]

>>6591330

I can never get over his voice.

[Anonymous No.6591341]

>>6591335
I almost did tbh.

[Anonymous No.6591344]

Because Killing myself and not killing myself both have no value or meaning. So I choose to stay alive till my time comes

[Anonymous No.6591379]

>>6591344

Sorta this tbh.

But with the additional qualifier that once I die I am dead forever, as far as I can know, so I better get in the best possible living ratio comparable to the infinity of being dead that awaits me.

[Anonymous No.6591399]

>all the people ITT thinking the universe needs need

you can't play this game for a profit, silly plebs

[Anonymous No.6591400]

>>6588875
I'm writing a book. Not to be published or anything, I am aware that I am not a talent or anything. It's a hobby nonetheless encompassing everything I am.

I just want to finish it.

[Anonymous No.6591403]

>>6591344
>>6591379
>this backwards ass fucking logic

Ahhh, /lit/. You grow stupider by the day.

[Anonymous No.6591408]

hypothetically when you die and your body decomposes, and after soem time by random chance, somehow every exact atom is rearanged to make you as you were, would you be you, would you regain consciousness?

[Anonymous No.6591412]

No good reason. I'll do it soon. I was going to spend time telling people that have posted why they are wrong but there's no point.

[Anonymous No.6591462]

>>6591408
If you got cloned, would you be one consciousness encompassing two bodies?

[Anonymous No.6591463]

>>6591403
Explain why it's backwards. Life is absurd so why bother killing yourself instead of experiencing it???

[Anonymous No.6591469]

>>6588875
I don't want to. Debate me, faggots.

[Anonymous No.6591489]

>>6591463

Because you value experiencing it, so it's not absurd for you, that's where you fuck up your logic lel

[Anonymous No.6591500]

>>6589085
I like this one

The problem I always have is while I'm waiting around for the next fun thing to happen I look back at the previous fun thing and I say "meh that wasn't even that fun" and I look forward to the next fun thing less and less

Its kind of lame and gay

Also like others said I could not go through with killing myself while my mother was also still alive, I wouldn't want her to live with the guilt

[Anonymous No.6591700]

>>6589022
>>6589839
same here.
i'm also scared of suddenly changing my mind when it's too late. not because it would be too late (in a normal state i would again want to die) but simply because it would probably feel like the worst hell imaginable. i don't want to go out like that.

[Anonymous No.6591717]

I like blowjobs and watching TV with my socially retarded gf.

[Anonymous No.6592518]

>>6591500
it's you who is lame and gay
>not killing yourself for mom
it's the second coming over here, gaze upon this living renaissance

[Anonymous No.6592521]

>>6589103
>>6589822
>>6589839
>>6590155
>>6591700
>>6589022
>all these selfless unworthy slave faggots who live on behalf of others

[Anonymous No.6592732]

>>6591500
>The problem I always have is while I'm waiting around for the next fun thing to happen I look back at the previous fun thing and I say "meh that wasn't even that fun" and I look forward to the next fun thing less and less
I'm not even talking about fun *things*, I'm just talking achieving a state of fun/good feelings. When I realize I feel like shit I halt all destructive intellectual activity, because it'll just make me feel worse and produce nothing.

[Anonymous No.6592748]

>>6591717
How do people like you find each other? I mean im decent looking, but socially retarded, but I've never been close to having a gf

[Anonymous No.6592878]

>>6592748
online m8

[Anonymous No.6592931]

>>6588875
Because I just too curious about where things are heading in the world. Political progress and science (space). And I am not depressed - but there is one thing that makes the thought of death easy. Then I will know.

[Anonymous No.6592956]

Because I don't feel sad.
I don't feel happy either.
I'm somewhat detached to a lot of things, so I feel pretty calm most of the time.
I think about joining a monastery a lot, but I'm not sure I want to dedicate myself to something like that.

[Anonymous No.6592987]

I think depressing is a problem with the body. If you live in the first world. You only need a little money to drop the past and I guess you can always try a new start before considering killing yourself.

>>6590508
Ended up eating Nachos (not my idea) and so I still have the Halloumi and the olives.
The first bj was okay. Her ass was tasty.

>>6589371
29. Read books at Starbucks. No/Hardly.

[Anonymous No.6592997]

>>6592987
Opinion of Mad Max?
if you don't think it was the greatest shit ever get out of my face

[Anonymous No.6593068]

>>6592997
Good costumes and set design. I'm generally not into action though, so I wouldn't mind not having seen it.

[Anonymous No.6593101]

>>6588875
I wanna see how fucked up this century gets

also i like my life

[Anonymous No.6593113]

because i have no reasons for it

[Anonymous No.6593115]

>>6592997
Best action movie since crank

[Anonymous No.6593116]

i can still see the light at the end of the tunnel. and the tunnel is something i created for myself, it's not real. the light is everywhere right now. or maybe it diffuses into a slight glow when it's not concentrated into a point of hope that contrasts with the darkness. the glow isn't enough for me, it's not hopeful enough, so i would rather cling to the possibilities that fate and chance offer me than the reality that's within my grasp at any given moment.

[Anonymous No.6593222]

Just waiting for the M.E, to be joined by cancer then I'm all over it in a Robin Williams kind of way.

Why does a captcha asking me to pick pictures of cake seem somehow wrong for this subject.

[Anonymous No.6593406]

>>6593222
>Why does a captcha asking me to pick pictures of cake seem somehow wrong for this subject.
>tfw you're trying not to be an alcoholic and captcha makes you click all the beers

[Anonymous No.6593407]

>>6592997

very entertaining, though ideologically fatuous and slim. i liked how it just dropped the viewer into the world. also the action was handled in an artistic manner, which is always nice

[Anonymous No.6593926]

>>6593406
Have a genuine LOL.

[Anonymous No.6594009]

>>6588875
I don't want to, so I don't.

[Anonymous No.6594034]

All. philosophy aside, I don't know. My life has been pretty miserable so much that i feel like it will be that way till i die. Everything has been a disappointment or a frustration to deal with on a regular basis. I have a shit-tier family unlike this anon >>6589022 and few friends but with literally no one to reveal my darkest and painful secrets. But learning and consuming art is a joy onto itself. Not enough to make me happy, but enough to starve off suicide for now at least

But yes suicide is literally "A pointless gesture in a series of pointless gestures."

[Anonymous No.6594062]

>>6590641
>my backlog is too big
kek

[Anonymous No.6594080]

>>6590155
>there's books to read
>there's vidya to play
>there's movies to watch
Holy shit, fucking this. This is my main reason for living, other than my parents.

[Anonymous No.6594171]

>>6588909
kek you substitute actual live expierences for entertainment and "art". If that is what's makeing you put off you suicide maybe you should just get it over with.

[Anonymous No.6594958]

>>6590000
>>6590079
If you didn't know Schopenhauer had at least one illegitimate child you're not in the position to ad homineminem.

[Anonymous No.6595014]

>>6592521
>implying it's not an ingenious indirect survival mechanism where they don't have to confess they want to go on living but get to outsource the incentive
>implying it's not a glorious fabrication that allows them to live 'unwillingly', thereby doing away with all commitment and expectation, making life a lot easier to bear
>implying the Will isn't the shrewdest trickster imaginable

[Anonymous No.6595074]

>>6588875

Might as well keep living.

[Anonymous No.6595100]

i want to live.

[Anonymous No.6595120]

>>6594958
>can't provide proofs
>i-i-if you don't this by know, then I don't have to show proofs
kill yourself, you retard

[Anonymous No.6595127]

>>6594171
>actual life experience

Aside from being dead i fail to see how you could have not-actual life experience. Unless you only give value to some arbitrary set of experiences of your choosing.

[Anonymous No.6595131]

>>6595120
http://www.cambridge.org/us/academic/subjects/philosophy/nineteenth-century-philosophy/schopenhauer-biography?format=PB

have at it, lad

[Anonymous No.6595193]

>>6588875
I tell myself I bear witness

[Anonymous No.6595271]

>>6588923

[Anonymous No.6596143]

Because there are still some bright spots in my otherwise sad life.

I'm sure, once they go away, it'll be my ending.

[Anonymous No.6596156]

>>6590000
>implying women aren't by nature less mentally mature
>implying Schopenhauer died lonely and friendless.

[Anonymous No.6596192]

I have 20 novels and 50 short stories left to write! Should keep me busy past my 30's. Also, a TBR list about to hit a thousand books. I've also never been in love, never gotten married, never had a divorce with tons of fabulous litigation. Never raised a child. Still haven't finished In Search of Lost Time. Haven't yet swallowed when sucking dick. The short of it is, there's too much to do! And as an atheist, I don't want to end the one short meaningless life I have.

[Anonymous No.6596289]

>>6589955
He's not that against suicide, but more like against killing yourself because life is senseless.

If you kill yourself but you do it because there's a sense in your suicide (like sending a message like he mentions when he reffers to Kirillov, a character from "Demons" of Dosoievsky)

[Anonymous No.6596608]

I used to constantly wish to kill myself for various reasons. I was involved in a psilocybin therapy panel and it's greatly improved my life in these regards. I've come to terms with my life and now look forward to seeing it through to the end. Perhaps you should look into it.

[Anonymous No.6597177]

>>6589974
Basically this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhBkC6B9I2U