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6583334 No.6583334 [Reply] [Original]

Why does /lit/ hate John Green? You criticise a writer for being childish when his target audience is children. That's like criticising James Joyce because 13 year old girls might have a hard time understanding Ulysses.

>> No.6583336

white murakami

>> No.6583367

>children's tales have to be childish

>> No.6583409

>>6583334

Just because his books are targeted at young adults doesn't mean that they need to be dumbed down. Plenty of YA fiction has had mature themes or been more nuanced.

Tbh though, I don't think his books are that bad. I think his youtube series is full of BS though.

>> No.6583434

>>6583334
>his target audience is children
If only it were that simple. People in their twenties are much more likely to read YA than Joyce. I think that creates some grounds for criticizing it more stringently.

(Green is just a meme though).

>> No.6583435

>>6583334
is this guy the new tao lin?

>> No.6583439

>>6583435
It's probably just one guy trolling. /lit/ does react quite a lot to the threads featuring this YA-peddler.

>> No.6583450 [DELETED] 

>>6583334
I'd suck his dick.

>> No.6583451

>>6583439
It's John Green himself feeling the waters to see if he's accepted in academia yet.

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>>6583451

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Clearly /lit/ has some fucked up love for the man.

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>>6583463
>not opening up a bunch of b8 tabs for the screenshot

Poor show.

>> No.6583469

youtube YA fiction some of the most dopey SJW shit la bazinga learning about history but not really le bazinga science we did it reddit im in love with people ive never met

I honestly just wish we didnt have thread about him, but i understand why people get booty bothered.

>> No.6583478

>>6583463
We should invite John Green to /lit/ for a Q and A.

>> No.6583480

>>6583439
Admittedly he's easy to hate. He's a dorky middle aged guy writing sentimental fiction for teenagers and some of the excerpts that get posted are really bad.

>> No.6583525

>>6583478
w-would he really do it?
it's worth a shot.

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6583529

It's kind of ironic that my most successful thread so for is about someone who /lit/ is supposedly not interested in.

>> No.6583537

>>6583529
>16 posts
>your most successful thread
pathetic.

>> No.6583540

>>6583525
http://johngreenbooks.com/bio-contact/the-contact-page/
Questions about press and publicity should be directed to Elyse Marshall, whose email address is elyse.marshall((@))us.penguingroup.com, except obviously without the parentheses.

>> No.6583546

>>6583540
"Hello

As representative of an anonymous community famous for trolling, I would like to invite Mr Green to do a Q&A on one of the slowest boards of the website, which is also the board that hates him most.

I hope to hear from you soon

Anonymous

>> No.6583556

>>6583546
P.S. Start with the Greeks.
Also corn.

Yours faithfully,

Huge Orson Welles

>> No.6583557

>>6583546
Sound like a plan

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>>6583336
I shouldn't find this as funny as I do. This fucking killed me for some reason.

>>6583469
I'm not exactly sure what the fuck happened to that first line but I think I agree with the general gist of it.

>> No.6583592

>>6583570

You sound young

>> No.6583646

>>6583592
Probably because I am. It's pretty great. My back and knees don't hurt, I have all my hair, I'm not fat, I don't completely hate the world yet.

Your post almost makes it sound like a bad thing. I want to stay borderline underageb& forever.

>> No.6583692

>>6583367
this

>> No.6583948

>>6583334
Because he's an easy target and that's the best /lit/ can do. John Green is at /lit/'s own level of intelligence.
And that's pretty honorable. I mean, wouldn't it be pretty shameful if /lit/ was actually somewhat intelligent and still attacked John Green?

>> No.6584528

>>6583463
He's my husbando

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6584559

>Cliché master
>White Knight

Because most, or better, all the things he writes are about the same stereotyped stories about teenagers falling in love throwing in some random bullshit (eg: cancer) to make it look deep and thoughtful. I mean, the guy has been watching and reading the same stories ever since he was the fucking kid and now he thinks that writing about the losing loser who falls in love with the hottest girl in high school is something cool and interesting that people want to read. There was also taht girl who lived the cancer story and died the some years back, and he pretends to support her cause, writes a story based on her and scores the cash.

In the end: easy writing to easy selling. But I don't care enough to hate him.

>> No.6584579

>>6583334
because it's a meme you dip

john green is to /lit/ what naruto is to /a/

what apple is to /g/

what COD is to /v/

but instead of not having threads about these topics, /lit/ talks about green all the fucking time

makes them feel smarter i guess

>> No.6584590

>>6583434
>People in their twenties are much more likely to read YA than Joyce.
That's just our society these days. People other than 14 year old boys actually watch Marvel movies now, ffs.

>> No.6584602

>>6583334
i don't criticize him for being childish, i criticize him cuz he's shit

also, his crash course videos are school of resentment bullshit

>> No.6586193

bumpin

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>>6583469
>youtube YA fiction some of the most dopey SJW shit la bazinga learning about history but not really le bazinga science we did it reddit im in love with people ive never met

>> No.6588380

bump

>> No.6588426

>>6584590
>>6583434
Yeah, and three centuries ago 99% of the population didn't even know how to read. I think we're doing alright for the time being, anons.

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>>6588426
>99% of the population

>> No.6588485

>>6588426
>and three centuries ago 99% of the population didn't even know how to read.

Being able to form vocalisation for a string of symbols from text and sentences doesn't mean anything if there's no real capability to interpret what you are reading.

I'm sure you can get 6 year olds who could 'read' crime and punishment (albeit with a little help on the more difficult to pronounce words) but that doesn't really mean they are understand what they are reading or can glean anything higher or more intellectual from it.

99% of the population can now read! So what - 99% of the population 'reads' trivial gossip rags and that's all they care about or are capable of 'reading'.