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Is Neuromancer the only high brow scifi book?
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>> No.6426693

Harold Bloom likes Stanislaw Lem, Ursula LeGuin, and Thomas Disch.

>> No.6426696

You haven't read much science fiction have you?

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>>6426686
Arthur C. Clarke, you forget.

>> No.6426715

>>6426686

John Brunner - specifically Stand on Zanzibar

Samuel R. Delaney - Dhalgren in particular is often called the Ulysses of SF, though personally I didn't enjoy it much.

>> No.6426720

>>6426715

Dhalgren is overrated. It just got famous because it's long. Delaney has written much better books.

>> No.6426746

>>6426686
Hello, SF newfriend!
I would recommend Mary Doria Russell's The Sparrow and Walter M. Miller, Jr.'s A Canticle for Leibowitz.

Also, >>6426703's best work is, in my opinion, Childhood's End.

These are all absolute masterpieces.

>> No.6426758

Hyperion maybe?

>> No.6426773

>>6426693
Neuromancer isn't that good.

Disch's short stories are pretty good but they seem to be out of print, sadly

>> No.6426881

>>6426758
Disgusting pleb.

>> No.6426919

>>6426686
Childhood's End
Snow Crash

>> No.6427100

>>6426919
Snow Crash is possibly the worst book I've ever read (by read I mean read at least 1/4th.

I downloaded it back when I was a pleb and was into sic-fi, and went on a long car ride with nothing else to read. So fucking shit oh my god I hate it.

>> No.6427107

>>6426686
Neuromancer is very low brow. Not to say it's bad, it's an amazing book, but it's also pretty much an 80s action movie filled with sex and violence. There is a lot of classic sci-fi that better fits that tile of "high brow".

>> No.6427110

What about Dune?

>> No.6427303

not 1 mention of BotNS

I am disappoint lit

>> No.6427382

>>6427303
What does BotNS stand for?

Excuse my ignorance pls.

>> No.6427434

What do you guys think of Philip Dick? I've had electric sheep laying around for months untouched because I always find myself rather reading something else. Not into sci fi either.

>> No.6427442

>>6427382

Book of the New Sun

>> No.6427459

>>6427434
i have seen some people calling the DICK sci fi for people that dont like scifi, but i like it.

>better than the movie

>> No.6427467

>>6427100
>not liking the part with the glass knife and when the one dude goes to fuck the girl with his gigantic dick

>> No.6427642

Neuromancer isnt even eyebrow tier bro

>> No.6427652

how the fuck is Neuromancer high brow?

>> No.6427655

>>6426686
Pic is kinda related in a way. lets be real.

>> No.6427659

for high brow scfi I would go with asimov

>> No.6427665

>>6426686
neuromancer isn't high brow
it's good; i read it in one sitting
but it's not high brow

>> No.6427690

>High brow SF

*Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?, Valis, and The Man in the High Castle by Philip K. Dick
*The Southern Reach trilogy by Jeff Vandermeer
*The Foundation series by Isaac Asimov
*Embassytown by China Mieville
*The Dune series by Frank Herbert
*The Last Man by Mary Shelley
*The Space trilogy by C.S. Lewis

>> No.6427719

>>6426686

Haha Neuromancer reads like Fallout dialogue. It's not that good. Childhood's End, Boneshaker, Buddy Holly is Alive and Well on Ganymede, and Valis are so much more human and not just dry escapism

>> No.6427887

>>6427719
>>6426686
Neuromancer's setting and Gibson's creative use of Simstim for transitions are great, and it's conceptual ideas about convergence of media was spot on, but the actual book wasn't really written that good. He keeps getting better as an author, he hits his stride right around Idoru.

But yeah, not High-Brow. William Gibson was literally a hippy. William S. Burroughs was one of his biggest influences.

>> No.6427947

PKD mentioned, swell with Ubik and alien language virus unearthed in 1945.

>> No.6427952

>>6427690
>*The Southern Reach trilogy by Jeff Vandermeer
The first book, at least.

>> No.6427956

>>6427719
That is more like Count Zero.

>> No.6428826

>>6427434
I really like his stuff but I don't know if Electric Sheep is the best entry into his work. You'll probably go into it expecting Blade Runner: The Book, then when you don't get that you'll be slightly put off by reading a different, weirder version of a story you already know.

Maybe start with one of his other, earlier books instead to see if you like his style. The Man in the High Castle is being made into a tv series, if you read the book now you can feel superior to all of your normal friends when it comes out because you know what happens.

Also 'Flow My Tears', The Policeman Said and The Three Stigmata of Palmer Eldritch could be decent entry points into Dick's work. Keep in mind that even his most accessible stuff can be pretty odd, and often rather dry too. He's really great if you get into his work though, some of his later works are schizophrenic masterpieces.

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>> No.6428851

>>6427434
>>6427690
>>6428826
PKD is over rated
http://www.theguardian.com/books/2003/mar/15/sciencefictionfantasyandhorror.philipkdick

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6428860

Gene Wolfe is the best SF author, by far. Book of the New Sun is a masterpiece.

>> No.6428879

>>6427107
All this low brow-high brow shit is only useful for pretentious assholes to stroke themselves and their ego.

>> No.6428922

>>6428860
>tfw no qt 3.14 to torture

>> No.6428924

Killdozer!

>> No.6428945

>>6428922
>tfw you can't fap to your second perfect persona