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Anonymous Mon Mar 23 09:37:41 2015 No.6305976 [Reply] [Original]

what are deconstructionists trying to do? what is the aim of what they do?

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 23 09:39:11 2015 No.6305982 Investigate the nature of meaning and signification scientifically.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 23 09:41:46 2015 No.6305990 >>6305976 Determine the several parts of concepts and historical conditions that give rise to them in order to understand how they are correlated in the context in which they appear.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 23 09:42:50 2015 No.6305992 they act as bullshit detectors

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 23 09:42:59 2015 No.6305994 Just fuck my shit up

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 23 09:44:12 2015 No.6306002 >>6305990 why does this matter?

Anonymous Mon Mar 23 09:49:29 2015 No.6306013

>>6306002
Contradictions may appear in the premises of two concepts that are of public use at the same time in a society. Often such contradictions appear when a theory pretends a "complete formulation" (metanarrative) of society (or world, or universe for what matters). The implications of showing the flaws in such theories are mainly political ones, it can include 'scientific' but considering as an institution.

That's one reason why postmodernism could be summed up as 'disbelief of metanarratives'

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 23 09:51:21 2015 No.6306017 >>6306013 what are some examples of metanarratives?

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 23 12:33:49 2015 No.6306547 >>6305976 They basically just go on endlessly against essentialism and foundationalism. That's it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 23 12:53:42 2015 No.6306602 >>6305976 Crashing the philosophy department with no survivors.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 23 13:11:12 2015 No.6306642 >>6305982 >>6305990 >>6305992 >>6305994 >>6306002 >>6306013 >>6306017 >>6306547 >>6306602 First of, let us not forget the artificiality of this discussion.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 23 13:14:27 2015 No.6306648 File: 2.96 MB, 4622x3683, Red Pill.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6305976 >what are deconstructionists trying to do? Fool the goyim. >what is the aim of what they do? Novus ordum seclorum.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 23 13:15:35 2015 No.6306652 File: 218 KB, 500x374, yablewit.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6306648 >ordum

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 23 13:20:22 2015 No.6306664 >>6306017 Science as an end-for-all, Enlightenment and triumph of harmonic rationality with positive dialectics, the triumph of civilization and order, psychoanalysis & phenomenological refuge of mankind and so on.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 23 13:26:59 2015 No.6306686 File: 3 KB, 64x71, ???.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6306664 Deconstructionism confirmed for a war on rationality.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 23 13:27:38 2015 No.6306689 >>6306648 > welfare state cause shrinking middle class, inflation, bloated debt and poverty thanks mises

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 23 13:29:20 2015 No.6306697 File: 19 KB, 400x400, 1423158344276.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6306689 >thanks mises ya d00d, we've had so many Austrians in the White House!

Anonymous Mon Mar 23 13:33:59 2015 No.6306717

>>6306686
Continental thought has been essentially anti-rationalist since 1890s, matey. Be it the German distinction between Kultur and Zivilization (former is full of life spirit, the latter is decadent and dying), the conflict between early Analytics and Hegelians, German literature rejecting mind over emotion or whatever, its rather clear that anti-rationalism is one of the main strands of continental philosophy.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fin_de_si%C3%A8cle

Heidegger considered Jews to be inferior people deserving of holocaust due to their rationalist-realist "worldliness"

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 23 13:40:12 2015 No.6306735 File: 5 KB, 67x115, 96.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6306717 Nice pirouette but anti-rationality isn't anymore valid simply because it has a tradition.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 23 13:43:39 2015 No.6306753 >>6306717 Rationalism isn't the same as rationality. Rationalism says that rationality is more or less omnipotent. If you believe that you're retarded.

Anonymous Mon Mar 23 13:46:22 2015 No.6306763

>>6306735
I'm sorry, are you somehow suprised by anti-rationalist strains of continental philosophy? Do you not know any history of philosophy? Do you believe yourself qualified of speak of it, int hat case?

>>6306753
Yes I never said that continental philosophy would be opposed to rational thinking, but rationalism as an omnipotent institution. That's what the term anti-rationalism traditionally refers to.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 23 13:50:03 2015 No.6306778 >>6305976 Establish their own moral supremacy

Anonymous Mon Mar 23 13:51:24 2015 No.6306784
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>>6306763
>I'm sorry, are you somehow suprised by anti-rationalist strains of continental philosophy? Do you not know any history of philosophy? Do you believe yourself qualified of speak of it, int hat case?

No and your reading comprehension is poor.

My point is: simply because anti-rationalism has a history it does not follow that it is a valid philosophy. Would you like to present a rational argument to convince me otherwise?

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 23 13:56:26 2015 No.6306796 >>6306648 >Chastity causing single parenthood what?

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 23 13:58:07 2015 No.6306802 >>6306796 Do you know how to read a chart? It's saying that the progressive attack on religion has lead to a DECREASE in chastity which lead to an INCREASE in single parenthood.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 23 14:13:17 2015 No.6306838 >>6306802 some scotsmen started shitting on religion over a century ago, categorical imperative, on its own merit, is pretty independent of religion, and gives it the middle finger, in terms of philisophy on how people should live morally

Anonymous Mon Mar 23 14:20:21 2015 No.6306865

>Nietzsche is not actually the overcoming of nihilism, he's just the completion of it, ya gotta know Being first :^)
>will to power and overman are metaphysical/otherworldly
>the true Nietzsche is not found in the published works ;)
Now that we know that Heidegger is exactly the kind of obtuse German barrier to European enlightenment Nietzsche described past figures as being (right down to personal inclinations towards romantic nationalism nazi volk shit), how do you think he would feel about Derrida?

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 23 14:22:41 2015 No.6306875 >>6306865 Derrida is the new Stendhal.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 23 19:40:08 2015 No.6307925 >>6305982 lol

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 23 19:43:11 2015 No.6307934 >>6306017 Marxism.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 23 19:44:54 2015 No.6307940 >>6307934 :^)

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 23 19:46:34 2015 No.6307947 >>6305976 To prioritize intellectualism over civilization.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 23 19:48:05 2015 No.6307951 >>6306784 That's not what rationalism is shitbird. Rationalism's opponent is empiricism. Rationalism is the belief that the full nature of the universe may be deduced through logic and reason.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 23 19:52:11 2015 No.6307971 >>6307940 It's true, though, by the description given.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 23 21:13:28 2015 No.6308308 File: 186 KB, 300x358, 1383695157758.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6306648 >low birth rates >a bad thing

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 23 21:18:20 2015 No.6308328 File: 35 KB, 400x264, Anna-Godard-copie-1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] i dont know but its a lot more fun when it happens in movies

Anonymous Mon Mar 23 21:19:51 2015 No.6308337

>>6306865

Heidegger put down Nietzsche's ideas to pump up his own.
He was a shit.
Derrida on the other hand shows great admiration to Nietzsche, because Nietzsche showed such continuity in his thought and his creative way of writing, oppositely Derrida did not have much respect for Stirner.

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