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6141282 No.6141282 [Reply] [Original]

Why are academics such stupid frauds?

>> No.6141519

>>6141282
Because they're inauthentic, unoriginal thinkers.

>> No.6141528

>>6141282

What's wrong with this OP? Seems perfectly fine to me. Don't get mad because you're so fucking ignorant you can't follow.

>>6141519

They're frauds because they're inauthentic? Really? Do you know what tautology means? How about synonym? Learn how to argue, Michael Savage.

>> No.6141533

>>6141528
>inauthentic? really?
Learn 2 heidegger terminology, pleb

>> No.6141539

>>6141533

Stop, just stop. I'm not in the mood for this garbage today.

>> No.6141545

>>6141539
Why? Because you're genuinely retarded like most academics and can't think?

>> No.6141555

>>6141282
>academics are fraud
>worshipping academics like Heidegger, Foucault and Wittgenstein

Pick one

>> No.6141561

>>6141545

Yeah. I have an IQ of less than 70 and am unable to think, just like most academics.

It is for these reasons, and certainly not because there is no contextual indication whatsoever that the word "inauthentic" (which is commonly used, I'm told) is meant in a "Heidegger"ian sense, that I'm asking you to stop.

>> No.6141568

>>6141555
>he can't into guy debord
>he can't into détournement
You're the biggest pleb on this board

>> No.6141590
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>>6141568

i fucking hate this website. i hate it so much. all of you are petty and stupid. this isn't funny. i come here out of habit and have poor self control. i hate you so much you piece of shit. i hate your snarky bullshit. go away please.

>> No.6141595
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>>6141590
>mfw this bureaucrat/academic pleb is Buttblasted
>I'm gunna détournement your MA thesis, you good little bureaucrat

>> No.6141737

Most people who hate academics with a passion were kicked out of college for drug abuse and laziness and blame the "establishment" for it.

>> No.6141801

>>6141568
Are these names?

Fucking respect their names and spell them right.
If there's any pleb here it's obviously you.

>> No.6141974

>>6141737
Nope: graduated academia with honors and distinction, did independent research with multiple professors in ontology, meta-ethics, and philosophy of language, and for some reason applied to PHD programs and was accepted to most. In other words: I was quite successful, but I absolutely hate academics and their bureaucracy. Get fucked, you bureaucrat in training.

>> No.6141979

>>6141801
You're genuinely retarded, you uncultured pleb.

>> No.6142000

>>6141590
>i come here out of habit and have poor self control
We all do. That's why the discussions on this website are so fucking wretched, and the posters all seem so hopelessly lost in their own inadequacies and oblique miseries. This place is like a colony of Calhoun's beautiful ones, trapped with nothing better to do then enact their own societal, economic, and sexual frustrations through an elaborate farce of pedantic erudition based primarily on hasty Google searches and Wikipedia skims. The result is simultaneously an echochamber of the worst form of uncritical, antagonistic political biases and conceptions (the "autistic fascist faggot" phenomena of /pol/), and a hugbox of mutually affirmed lack of agency and socio-political potency (explemfied best by /r9k/). Invariably every dialogue ends with an erected wall of enmity that prevents any constructive discourse from taking place ala >>6141979 and the endless cycle of self-defeat continues.
I fucking all hate all you. So fucking much.
Fucks sake

>> No.6142009

>>6142000
>defending butterfaces illiteracy
Keep lamenting, you schoolboy

>> No.6142014

>>6142000

best post i've seen in ages.

9/10 brah, 9/10.

i quit this site for a while but i always come back, mostly when i have work to do that i'm anxious about, and so i procrastinate.

can we make this thread useful and talk about what the fuck is up with this site? a lot of us recognize it's garbage by now.

actually our whole fucking generation is garbage. we've wasted everything on the internet and in video games. i'm not going to cry about it because it is what it is, but i do want to change it.

halp

>> No.6142023

>>6142000
Damn, you're pretentious.

>> No.6142051

>>6142023

nah bro, he's right. hopefully you'll figure that out soon enough.

>> No.6142060

>>6142051
Nah brah
Stop samefagging brah

>> No.6142067

>>6142014
This website is a graveyard of ambitions, why expect anything other than enacted frustration? As the original demographic of this site (YA nerds, gamers, otaku etc) came of age and realized they had no easily discernible place in their society, nor any ambitions fostered through their hobbies/interests, they retreated deeper into the anti-social pathologies that tend to be inculcated by insular hobbies like watching anime, and playing online videogames, and are ratified by the ideology on boards like /v/, /a/ etc. Thus post-2010 /r9k/, and /pol/, were born and they became shoutboxes for the conceptualization, codification and evolution of those anti-social pathologies and tendencies into the holistic socio-political ideology now found on this boards. This website is a truly fascinating case study of the culture that develops when you provide (essentially and ostensibly) unmoderated space for disenfranchised and self-defeated young men.

>> No.6142068

>>6141282
They perpetuate and impose agendas.

>> No.6142076

>>6142067
Holy pretentions, batman.

>> No.6142110

>>6142076

if someone is indeed being pretentious (for argument's sake), do you think saying "you're being pretentious" is going to convince them of their pretenses?

or would it be better to show them, reasonably, step-by-step, why they're being pretentious and why that's bad?

more importantly, if it's not particularly relevant, why not set it aside and respond to the content directly?

if someone is being pretentious, and they're dialogueing with someone who isn't, then the truth will out.

i don't know why i type this, it literally doesn't matter what i say, you'll have something to reply with, and then i'll have something to reply with, and then we'll both have wasted 30 minutes but both be entirely certain the other was wrong and we "wrekt" them, but in fact we'll have won nothing except putting another brick in the wall of our own self-assuredness.

why?

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>>6142110
I can tell that you're extremely angry over a 4chan comment.

>> No.6142120

>>6142114

it's not a particular comment, it's the aggregate of all this.

i've talked to you a thousand times in a thousand threads anon. it's always the same.

le u mad face doesn't phase me in the slightest.

i'm definitely mad, but it's mostly about my own poor usage of time and my own entrenchment in stupid habits. doesn't have much to do with you.

>> No.6142127

>>6141737

Projecting much?

I never even applied to a university. Looked like an all around bad investment.

5 years later and it turns out I was absolutely correct.

>> No.6142145

>>6142114

i mean come on, we're in this together. if you took the time to download a smug frog onto your phone, then post it onto 4chan and type a comment in response, basically for no reason other than instinctive habit, then you're definitely in the same boat as me-- as all of us!

>> No.6142156

>>6142120
>>6142110
>>6142067
Hi anon. Interesting take and something I'm sure we all feel to a degree.

What is your opinion about why so many men in our generation found this type of living preferable?

Did we lose our agency? (I would say mostly no)

So what makes this life better? The /pol/ part of the culture would have ready-made explanations for why this generation is so catastrophically fucked it doesn't even make sense to leave the basement and try in the outside world.

Do you see any utility in these explanations? Has SJW/social marxism/feminism destroyed men and women? Is our reaction understandable?

Was there anything we could have done differently? Is there any solution now?

Keep talking.

>> No.6142164

>>6142067
>>6142110
We anons are just mad that life is passing us by and we have little power to change our circumstances.
Idleness drives even the best of us mad.

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>>6142156
I'm not really able to answer those questions without recourse to ideology. The aim of my two posts was to critically highlight my perception of the ideology that has sprung forth, or at the very least been inculcated and best represented by, 4chan. Those are all questions worth asking, but in asking them it presupposes the coherent ideology it questions, an ideology worth close examination in and of itself.

>> No.6142204

>>6142156
>>6142164

Ok real talk. I was a smart kid, got off track around age 15. started using internet for hours a day, you know the story. then it was pot and booze. i'm moving away from it finally, but i still hate all of this.

we're a wasted generation. we're not particularly evil or weak or something, it's just that we happened to come about during the explosion of internet/internet culture.

in the 1500s we might have been great knights. in the 1600s we might have been explorers.
in the 1700s we might have been philosophers or missionaries.
in the 1800s we might have been soldiers or priests.
in the 1900s we might have been activists or writers.
in the 2000s, we spend 8 hours a day on the internet and achieve mediocrity in everything we do outside of the internet because of years of crystallized habit and an inability to commit time to anything (be it a relationship, an art, a job or school).

there's hope. we can change. we're not doomed. but it's gonna be a long, bumpy road, and we need to help each other.

audacious, i know.

>> No.6142235

>>6142204
>got off track around age 15. started using internet for hours a day, you know the story. then it was pot and booze.
That's the story (at least generally) of many if not most posters on this site. However its unseemly to blame circumstance and unhealthy to imagine that "if things were different, things would be different". What anyone who feels trapped on this board and in this lifestyle needs to realize is that agency and volition can be reclaimed relatively quickly through a radical program of self-appraisal and criticism, combined with a define and tangible course of action (get a degree, get a job). Stock self-help advice really, but you would be hard pressed to say it doesn't work if undertaken seriously, earnestly, and radically.

>> No.6142236

>>6142204
/website

>> No.6142251

>>6142235

it helps to have friends in real life who can help you. society as a whole isn't quite aware of how endemic this problem is yet, and the whole internet thing has definitely spread to all generations (facebook etc.).

we're slowly waking up

>> No.6142423

>>6142251
Your right friends do help one at least get out the house once in a while, (possibly create some intrigue) but the people I meet seem to be almost totally lost to the wire. Were do people turn to when most of what is said is lost to indifference and distraction. I never seem able to make an attractive ad slogan for myself

What the fuck am I talking about?

>> No.6142433

>>6142235

>agency and volition can be reclaimed relatively quickly through a radical program of self-appraisal and criticism, combined with a define and tangible course of action (get a degree, get a job)

bullshit, simply.

>> No.6142439

>>6141801
look at that, the stupidest, most annoying and unavoidable trip on 4chan doesn't know who guy debord is.


welcome to my ignore list

>> No.6142460

>>6142110
If 4chan is really so shitty (for argument's sake), do you think that it's going to change by posting off-topic shallow critiques in a thread on one of the minor boards?

Also,
>8. Complaining about 4chan (its policies, moderation, etc) on the imageboards may result in post deletion and a ban.

Also, come to lainchan.

>> No.6142479

>>6142204
>pot and booze
Explains a lot.

>> No.6142505

>>6142433
Okay, fine. It's impossible for you to do anything now, you're too far gone. Your volition has been wrecked by years of hyperactive internet usage and your free will and agency have been worn out like a sex slave's vagina.
That work better for your self-defeating worldview?

>> No.6142549

>>6142505
I'm not >>6142433, but I'd like to expound on what I think they are saying. If you feel like getting a degree and a traditional job is a waste of time or energy, then what else can you do? Modern society values degrees and jobs more than anything, so where do you go and what do you do if you don't want these things?

>> No.6142710

lol I'm liking the new anti-TTKM sentiments.

>> No.6142717

>>6141568
>debord

Go to bed, LaBeouf.

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>>6142710

>> No.6142754

>>6141561
You're really, really idiotic.

>> No.6142768

Holy shit stop gobbling up this crap /lit/ Jesus Christ it's not even sourced. It looks like a goddamn screenshot from a MS-word essay.

>> No.6142775

>>6141282
Nietzsche already said:
"In dealing with scholars and artists, people are easily led in the wrong
direction: behind a remarkable scholar you will not infrequently find a
mediocre person, and behind a mediocre artist quite often – someone
really remarkable."

>> No.6142803

>>6142067
Do you have a blog? A paper? A print? A video documentary series? Please, I want to buy your thoughts, they are just too special to be lost to the vast abyss that is 4chan. I am not lying. I am not being sarcastic. I genuinely want you to speak at my wedding.

>> No.6142854

>>6142803
sent ;–)