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[Anonymous No.5666731]

Abrahamic religions > Eastern religion

Prove me wrong.

Protip: You can't

[Anonymous No.5666740]

>>5666731
pagans > abrahamics

HAIL TOUTATIS

[Anonymous No.5666747]

>>5666731
her breasts > religion

[Anonymous No.5666754]

>>5666747
omg yes

[Anonymous No.5666758]

>>5666747
Her breasts are my religion.

[Anonymous No.5666759]

Abrahamic religions are monotheistic and inherently conflict with other religions. Eastern religions are generally pantheistic and integrate with other religions.

I prefer integration over conflict.

[Anonymous No.5666761]

>>5666747
virgin detected

[Anonymous No.5666765]

>>5666759
that's because you're a pussy

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !mxvabIoSIE No.5666767]

>>5666731
I can't? I wont even bother. Religion is a pox and a lie.
>>5666740
"Pagan" is an insult term the Christ cultists invented

[Anonymous No.5666774]

>>5666767
>Religion is a pox and a lie.

[Anonymous No.5666786]

>>5666765
You seem angry. Do you want a hug?

[Anonymous No.5666788]

>>5666761
not even mad, m88

[Anonymous No.5666792]

>>5666786
no I want pussy

[Anonymous No.5666795]

>>5666788
virgin sucker, ur mad i know it

[Anonymous No.5666809]

>>5666759
Elohim.

[Anonymous No.5666819]

>>5666792
Why do you want pussy? You also seek integration?

Doesn't that make you a pussy, like me, according to your logic? You've already got what you want. You are the pussy.

[Anonymous No.5666853]

>>5666795
k

[Anonymous No.5666877]

>>5666819
i want to integrate with rachel aldana's pussy

[Anonymous No.5666883]

>>5666747
AYY LMAO

[Anonymous No.5666902]

>>5666877
Shut up, pussy

[Anonymous No.5666903]

>>5666747
hahahahaah

[Anonymous No.5666931]

>>5666747
lel

[Anonymous No.5666955]

>>5666731

is that Michelle Barrett?

[Anonymous No.5666979]

>>5666902
shut up yerself, pussy

[Anonymous No.5666994]

>>5666955
https://twitter.com/BrendaZambranoC/media

[Anonymous No.5668967]

>>5666731
What about Western religions?

[Anonymous No.5669516]

>>5666759
>Abrahamic religions are monotheistic and inherently conflict with other religions. Eastern religions are generally pantheistic and integrate with other religions.

>If I say "generally" maybe nobody will notice how dumb and wrong these sweeping statements are!

[Anonymous No.5669663]

>>5666731
hm. for me it's Christianity = The Way/Truth. Judaism is connected to/precedes it and the chosen people are supposed to have some continuing relationship there that I won't claim to understand.

Islam is a false derivative. not a big fan of anything that demands/expects perfection from people as that's impossible. all that said, I find it culturally beautiful, have a lot of aesthetic admiration for Arabic and Persian expressions. love all of that sacred geometry stuff. Sufism is pretty cool too.

Buddhism I draw from practically, as it has gone in depth into certain practices I find useful, but I don't buy into its ultimate outlook and answer/prescription.

Taoism I really dig, not as a religious answer, but as a useful reading on the process of material reality and possibly some spiritual dynamics across it. also, where it sides with receptivity/yin in a lot of ways, and while I do see how nature/creation does swallow everything, at the same time I lean towards a solar/yang/dynamic approach (but paradoxally, and in line with Christianity/Buddhism/Taoism, by way of first recognizing and giving way to death/sublimity/receptivity), knowing the sublime crushes you but reaching greater heights in attempting to defy it/mold it/struggle with it

Hinduism is fascinating to me as a site of various potential insights into different iterations of formal and folk paganisms, an area I see as at times dealing in real spiritual dynamics, but not one I align myself with. that said, I'm somewhat put off by Europeans and hippies who revere India as this sacred place because of all the robes and trippy music, what with its despicable caste systems and idolotry and rampant rape.

ultimately though all of the mysteries and cults and paganisms are lesser echoes/iterations/prefigurations/distortions of the profound event of Christ's death and resurrection

[Anonymous No.5670033]

>>5666747
>he's a tits guy

[Anonymous No.5670095]

>>5666731
Abrahamic religions all developed in the Orient, tho

[AnelCrest !m9jxTLhLcw No.5670112]

>>5666731

[Anonymous No.5670119]

>>5666740

[Anonymous No.5670202]

>>5669663
Are you Catholic? You sound Catholic.

>>5666731
The most pernicious lie of the modern times is the New Age idea that "all religions point to the same truth, but do it in different ways"

Nothing could be further from the truth. The world "religions" are so different that I wouldn't even use the word "religion" to describe "them"

But contrary to popular belief, religions are not there to teach us morals. Nothing could be further from the truth, it is the height of ignorance to claim that.

First of all, we don't need religions for morals. You don't need all the complex theology for something as simple as "don't be a dick".

Morality comes quite naturally from empathy. Our brains (mirror neurons) are already wired for that, to a certain extent.

All religions are on the contrary... stories of the abolition of the ethical.

Christ basically broke every single religious law of the time he could. He said the most blasphemous thing in history: "before Abraham is, I am" - he disrespected the elders, he said "prostitutes will inherit the Kingdom before the priests will", etc. He was not an example of a "perfectly ethical individual", at least not in a normal sense. (If we understand ethics as the rules and morals of a community in a given time/situation)

Buddha LEFT his wife and child, and went to live as an ascetic, looking for some higher truth. Imagine how that mut have been for his wife and child.

Zhuangzi lives like a homeless bum, a crazy person who sings when his wife dies. (And he doesn't sing because he didn't love her or because she didn't mean anything to him... or because he's happy to be single. In another passage he says we're fools for hating death.)

[Anonymous No.5671067]

>>5666747
>2014
>liking cow tits instead of cute loli flat chest.

[Anonymous No.5671100]

>>5666731
But Abrahamic religion is eastern. The good kinds, anyway.

[Anonymous No.5671110]

>>5671067
>implying you wouldn't spontaneously ejaculate the second she pressed your face into her chest, leaving you to make your chronic apologies whilst she mopped up your mess with slow, disappointed motions

[Anonymous No.5671136]

>>5670202

>Morality comes quite naturally from empathy.

Ethics of care or relational ethics, founded by feminist theorists, notably Carol Gilligan, argues that morality arises out of the experiences of empathy and compassion.

0/10
Apply yourself.

[Anonymous No.5671178]

>>5666731
Greek philosophy > both

[Anonymous No.5671203]

"Eastern" is utterly meaningless. It serves no purpose other than to create a category for everything not European, which is so broad that it's useless for any serious analysis of the civilizations lumped together under that term. It leads us to believe, for example, that 'Middle Eastern' cultures are more closely related to 'Far Eastern' cultures than they are to the 'Western' cultures right next to them.

[Anonymous No.5671213]

>>5671178

All three of the Abrahamic religions absorbed Greek philosophy and and pushed it to new heights.

[Anonymous No.5671238]

>>5666731
>Protip: You can't
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And verily, lo did those who were naught in the brains department, descend upon the Most Holy and Mighty 4chan, wielding silly statements, that a 5 year old would reject. Amen.

[Anonymous No.5672278]

>>No.5666731

Eastern religion, with its emphasis on the self, is less likely to degenerate into idolatry than Abrahamic religion.

[Anonymous No.5672291]

idgi, why did the tit pics stop

[Anonymous No.5672297]

>>5671178

Epicureanism is incapable of providing fulfillment, as no life will ever be free of suffering.

[Anonymous No.5672317]

>>5669516
>If I pretend generally and sweeping aren't synonymous I can get unnecessarily mad on the internet!

[Anonymous No.5672411]

>>5672278
No aspect of Hinduism isn't idolatry.

[Anonymous No.5672448]

>>5672411

Moksha?

[Anonymous No.5672453]

>What idiots think:
Eastern religions lack a monotheistic, concrete, demanding God and thus aren't subject to textual abuse like the Abrahamic religions are.
>The fact of the matter
Any text can be interpreted any way you want if you're inclined to interpret it that way. Buddhism and Hinduism have shed gallons of blood, but not in the same part of the world as Christianity, Islam, and Judaism. The form of a language-game doesn't change its nature as infinitely interpretable.

[Anonymous No.5672748]

>>5671213
It mostly corrupted it.

>>5672297
You should read more about it, Epicureanism isn't practised on the premise that life will be without suffering once you do.

[Anonymous No.5672972]

>>5666731
>her instagram
damn...

[Anonymous No.5673001]

>>5670202
>Are you Catholic? You sound Catholic.

was raised Lutheran, and I still respect its theological emphasis but it's often a little too cerebral and rationalist for me.

sometimes go to Anglican or Catholic mass because I find the ritual experience more fitting for the way my mind works.

I guess I'm a Christian Mystic. my worldview actually contains a lot of pagan and Eastern ideas, but I locate the answer in Christ, and not by way of some Gnostic or Hermeticist heretical 'Christ is you/your higher self' interpretation or anything

[Anonymous No.5673172]

>>5669663
Judaism isn't that hard to understand, I would be happy to explain it for you anon.

[Anonymous No.5673199]

>>5671203
There are also problems with uncritically talking about 'Hinduism' and 'Buddhism' as religions in the same way the Abrahamic faiths are religions.

[Anonymous No.5673220]

>>5673001
Nice new age shopping around faggot, you'll burn in hell according to all your precious traditions.

[Anonymous No.5673271]

>>5673220
you don't have any idea how I fit these ideas together. I don't contradict Christian theology. and Christianity is culturally nomadic, it can and does utilize any symbolic materials as they're only echoes of the truth anyways

[Anonymous No.5673295]

>>5672972
link?

[Anonymous No.5673306]

>>5671203
sort of, although there is quite a lot shared across Buddhism, Hinduism, Taoism, Confucianism, etc. and probably most crucially a passive 'go with the flow' thing that tends to encourage groupthink

[Anonymous No.5673314]

>>5673306
by crucially, I mean in distinguishing this sense of 'Eastern' from what is usually implied by 'Western' as, in its many expressions, the opposite of that approach

[Anonymous No.5673467]

>>5673271
Busted, there is no singular Christian theology and every theology of any particular sect contradicts the theology of other sects.

[Anonymous No.5673470]

>>5673467
you know absolute shit

signed,
a pastor's son

[Anonymous No.5673471]

>>5666731
is this that russian girl that always used to be posted all grown up

[Anonymous No.5673478]

>>5666731
Atheism>Abrahamic religions

I don't have to prove you wrong, I'm just euphoric

[Anonymous No.5673500]

>>5673470
>appeal to daddy
Really?

Seriously though, different types of Christianity have different theological claims. Where these claims contradict each other, they aren't comparable. This isn't really hard to comprehend. Ask your daddy.

[Anonymous No.5673504]

>>5673500
*compatible

[Anonymous No.5673545]

>>5673500

the appeal is to my being absolutely consumed in this stuff for half of my life and knowing it quite in-depth. this is an area I can definitely speak with more authority/experience on, especially considering the shit argument you're trying to make that any Christian would know to be nonsense.

the theological differences are very small and insignificant enough that the clergy of the different denominations recognize each other (namely, Catholics, Lutherans, Baptists, Presbyterians, Episcopalians, Anglicans, several nondenominational churches, etc. etc.) contrast this with the less the compatible theological differences between these, and, say, Mormonism, Jehovah Witnesses, Gnosticism...

[Anonymous No.5673611]

>>5673295
just reverse image search

[Anonymous No.5673656]

>>5673545
>recognize each other
That's courtesy, not theological compatibility. The Pope 'recognises' Muslims. But they'd still burn in hell according to each other's doctrines.

[Anonymous No.5673999]

>>5670119
FARPAITEMENT

[Anonymous No.5674029]

>>5673656
nope. you're completely ignorant on the subject. fuck off

[Anonymous No.5674069]

>>5669663
>Islam is a false derivative. not a big fan of anything that demands/expects perfection from people as that's impossible. all that said, I find it culturally beautiful, have a lot of aesthetic admiration for Arabic and Persian expressions. love all of that sacred geometry stuff. Sufism is pretty cool too.
This opinion is derivative, top to bottom. "Demands/expects perfection," "but sufism is cool" this sounds like you watch American news.

[Anonymous No.5674200]

>>5674029
>sola scriptura and 'not sola scriptura' are compatible

kekum

[Anonymous No.5674212]

>>5666731
All the Abrahamic religions are death cults.

[Anonymous No.5674485]

>>5674212
and buddhism isn't?

[Anonymous No.5674510]

>>5674200
not true. Quran 5:47 : "Let the People of the Gospel judge by that which Allah hath revealed therein. Whoso judgeth not by that which Allah hath revealed: such are evil-livers."

[Anonymous No.5674511]

The Kabbalah has like Leviathan and non Euclidian shaped angels and shit

[Anonymous No.5674530]

>>5674485
Correct.

[Anonymous No.5674555]

No fap November. Why even fool myself? lol

[Anonymous No.5674621]

>you will not die in a forest, but in a white room with white walls and opaque windows, alone

[Anonymous No.5675334]

>>5673478
Toplel DAE le euphoric neckbeard

[Anonymous No.5675341]

>>5674511
>non Euclidian shaped angels
source

[Anonymous No.5675352]

>>5666731
How? A statement is not an argument. I'd argue Eastern religion (Hinduism, Buddhism) are preferable because of their increased emphasis on protecting the environment and the belief in Karma which in turn encourages better behaviour.
As opposed to Abrahamic religions which seem to encourage nothing but killing each other and "converting the heathens."
How many times have you seen a Hindu or Buddhist missionary? OP is a moron.
Pic related: OP

[Anonymous No.5675367]

>>5666731
Christ shakes his head as another one of his supposed adherents gets it wrong again.

Do you think Christ is proud of you for saying that? No, you're just a fool.

[Anonymous No.5675377]

>>5675367
Although, you could be just troll; either way, try harder to escape the call of the pond.

[Anonymous No.5675417]

>>5675352
Funny.
I actually had a Hindu traveling monk walk up to me and gave me a free copy of the Bhagava-Gita.
I'm not complaining, I wanted to buy the book anyway and glad I got it for free.
But if you feel like you know the truth, you will probably want to share the truth with other people, atheists do that too.
He also congratulated me after I decided to take the book.

[Anonymous No.5675436]

>>5675417
Some hippie probably gave him the book and he was like, "what the fuck am I meant to do with this, carry it around all the time? I'll just pass it on to the first person I meet once this smelly stoner is out of sight."

[Anonymous No.5677856]

>>5666767
thanks for adding a retarded, pointless and inflammatory post to a retarded, inflammatory and pointless thread, tripcunt.

[Anonymous No.5678476]

>>5673656
According to Judaism, Islam is fine for non-jews, Christianity on the other hand, is the subject of fierce debate by some early commentators, mainly whether or not the whole jesus-is-god thing is actually considered true idolatry.

>>5675352
No, Judaism only applies to those of Jewish descent or converts. Everyone else is fine as long as they keep the seven Noahide Laws (which it is not a jew's business to enforce, except in a Jewish kingdom) i.e. don't worship anyone else, don't murder, don't commit sexual immorality, don't steal, don't eat any part of an animal that is still living, don't curse God, and set up a justice system.

Source: I'm a full time Talmud student.

[Anonymous No.5678523]

Thing is, what Abraham, Moses, Jesus, Muhammad, Noah, Joseph, David, Solomon, etc - all preached the same thing.

Remember already

[Anonymous No.5678835]

>>5666767
What a dreadful person.

[Anonymous No.5678875]

>>5675352
>How many times have you seen a Hindu or Buddhist missionary? OP is a moron.

>lol who's ever heard of a Buddhist missionary??

You're the fucking moron here.

[Anonymous No.5678881]

>>5666731
Jesus and Buddha were geniuses who preached completely opposing philosophies. We may never know which of them was right.

[Anonymous No.5678967]

>>5674530
kek kek parakek parasamkek

[Anonymous No.5679072]

>>5666767
>trips to be associated with her opinions
>holds the opinions of a common bigot

[Anonymous No.5679090]

Who's tits are those

[Anonymous No.5679094]

>>5679090
Mine.

[Anonymous No.5679144]

>>5674530
Buddhism is the ultimate death cult. It's only goal is to stop being reborn.

[Anonymous No.5679147]

>>5679090
>you now manually realize that you will never bend her over, spread her ass cheeks, and bury your tongue deep inside her asshole

[Anonymous No.5679156]

>>5679090
>Who's tits

[Anonymous No.5679185]

>>5679144
>Buddhism is the ultimate death cult. It's only goal is to stop being reborn.

But it doesn't dictate that the end of the world is something to look forward to because the chosen will be rewarded and everyone else will be punished by varying amounts of flames.

[Anonymous No.5679351]

>>5679185
one interpretation =/= the only interpretation

If we're playing that way, I can name a million absurd sect of buddhism.

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » No.5679406]

>>5678835
>*Gasp* How dreadful. Holding such opinions about my church. Makes me want to kick your teeth in, and it's all your fault.

>>5679072
>You can't point out the bigotry of the church. That's heresy! You'll burn in hell for this, wench! Die on a stake!

Such compassionate people

[Anonymous No.5679416]

>>5679147
/mu/ please leave

[Anonymous No.5679966]

>>5679351
>If we're playing that way, I can name a million absurd sect of buddhism.

It's doubtful to me that the madman who detonates a nuclear devise in the name of his religion will be a Buddhist.

[Anonymous No.5680005]

Jesus, what an arrogant bitch. But, please keep posting sexual pictures of women to prove your sexuality to us, it's not forced at all.

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » No.5680104]

>>5680005
Monster cleavage is the theme set by the OP

You're the arrogant bitch though.

[Anonymous No.5680616]

>>5666759
>pic releated

>>5674069
>implying islam is not shit
i was born muslim but this religion is the most pretentious shit i have ever encountered.

>muh islam is about freedom
sharia
>muh muhammed is tha best man, every men should be like him
aisha
>never worship any god besides allah!
more people worship muhammand than allah. they even respect him more.
>why you should believe in the quran? well the quran says so!
dat circular logic

the list goes on and on..

[Anonymous No.5680764]

>>5666731
Prove your claim right.

Protip: you can't do it and you should be able to if you want to prove your argument, because the burden of proof is on YOU.

[Anonymous No.5680803]

This guy got it right with religion.

[Anonymous No.5680810]

>>5666731
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It annoys me when you can't figure out if someone is trolling or just plain ol stupid. Maybe the OP can enlighten us? Which is it OP?

[Anonymous No.5680812]

>>5680616
>i was born muslim

No you weren't.

[Anonymous No.5680841]

>>5680812
yes i was. i'm a in germany living muslim

[Anonymous No.5680910]

>>5680841
remove kebab now

[kitty !kitty/EnNg No.5680917]

islam isn't nationality, it's religion, one cannot be 'born muslim' just like one cannot be born christian

[Anonymous No.5680921]

>>5680917
But I'm a born again Christrian

[Anonymous No.5680930]

>>5680917
He means he's born into a Muslim family of course, my dear autist.

[Feminarkist !!XI7SJUHr/Uv No.5680960]

>>5670202
>morality comes quite naturally from empathy. our brains (mirror neurons) are already wired for that

>if we understand ethics as the rules and morals of a community in a given time/situation

nice rapidly shifting definitions to confuse people.

it's clear you've understood Kierkegaard better than some people, but it's a shame you're enlisting him into predictable decontextualized 4chan edginess. universalism hasn't always been about the modern reductionist conceit that religions are fairy tales designed to teach you how to live (nor has "New Age" been, ever); numerous prophets have embraced elements of it. read up on the history of Sikhism; a strong universalist case could be made for Jesus (and large chunks of the Jewish apocalyptic tradition he came out of); this is not even counting pagan religions that inherently acknowledged the validity of other religions, while still being spiritually serious.

>>5673220
>you have to choose a rigid doctrine and stick to it unquestioningly!
>worships guy who talked in riddles

[Anonymous No.5680991]

>>5680960
>>you have to choose a rigid doctrine and stick to it unquestioningly!
>>worships guy who talked in riddles
A lot of religions, especially Abrahamic ones, are set up in such a way that you either accept them wholly or in vain. You can't dabble in Catholicism, for example.

I'm not religious at all myself, but thinking you can just muck about combining doctrines as you please means you misunderstand the doctrines you're playing with. if you just want to have fun with your feefees you should become a Wiccan or some other structureless 'posture as you please' type of thing. They're more suited for shopping for spiritual accessories.

[Feminarkist !!XI7SJUHr/Uv No.5680997]

>>5680991
>Catholicism
>Abrahamic religion

kek. I like Catholicism, but only in that it's a thinly disguised paganism.

[Anonymous No.5681001]

>'eastern'
nah dharmic religions are superior m8

[Anonymous No.5681004]

>>5680997


truth eastern orthodox is no1 doe

[Anonymous No.5681006]

>>5680997
The decorations are pagan, the core beliefs aren't.

[Feminarkist !!XI7SJUHr/Uv No.5681040]

>>5681006
no, you're right, I was shooting the shit there. Catholicism's focus on repentance is very Abrahamic and also something I like. it's hard to have a fully serious argument with someone who claims to seriously believe the defining feature of religion is blind and exclusive adherence to a rational/verbal "doctrine" though. like, take a course on comparative religion, read a book, lay off the conservative blogs, stop thinking about insular, American conflicts over things like "New Age" as if they matter

[Feminarkist !!XI7SJUHr/Uv No.5681050]

>>5681006
no, you're right, I was shooting the shit there. Catholicism's focus on repentance is very Abrahamic and also something I like. it's hard to have a fully serious argument with someone who seriously claims to believe the defining feature of religion is exclusive adherence to theological claims though, I mean when theology is a late phase of the development of almost any religion. like, take a course on comparative religion, read a book, lay off the conservative blogs, stop thinking about insular, American conflicts over things like "New Age" and Wicca as if they matter

[Anonymous No.5681266]

>>5680917
But actually muslims believe that everyone is born muslim, and if they end up not-muslim then it's because they were converted. Islam (i.e. submission to God) is considered the natural state of being for humans, which can then be departed from, rather than a goal that should be arrived at.

[Anonymous No.5682474]

>>5681050
The doctrine is the defining feature if you really subscribe to the faith. Of course most people are inconsistent opportunists and that's why they don't even like to think about the doctrines, but if you call yourself a Catholic that should imply actually adhering to the beliefs present within the institution of Catholicism. Redemption is at the core of Christianity. Redemption is not unconditional. The conditions are within the doctrine.

[Feminarkist !!XI7SJUHr/Uv No.5682495]

>>5682474
this is such a joke I don't even know how to argue with this. no one Christian "doctrine" was codified until Christianity had already existed for over 300 years

[Anonymous No.5682537]

>>5682495
I don't care when it was codified, the point is that Catholicism has clearly defined dogma that is at its core. So yes, theological claims are the defining feature. it's on the assumptions of these claims that a practising Catholic acts.

[Anonymous No.5685611]

>>5680841
Oh man. Was reden sie da bloß. Lesen sie lieber mehr Bücher. Wenn du denn Koran schon nicht verstehst oder wie ich glaube es nicht gelesen hast, satt hast oder in deiner Kindheit schlechte erfahrung gemacht hast. Dann kann ich dir das Buch von Ibn Tufail - Hayy ibn Yaqdhan empfehlen. Ich weiß, du fühlst dich zum Islam gezwungen. Dann empfehle ich es dir, geheim zu praktizieren. Nur für dich. Jeder Mensch ist anders.

[Anonymous No.5686051]

>tfw you feel more catholic every day

[Anonymous No.5686066]

>>5669663
Judaism does not precede Catholicism. Judaism is actually younger than Christianity. A few Jews have admitted to this, like Harold Bloom. The modern version of Judaism (Rabbis debating / applying the Talmud & Midrash) sprung in the early centuries after Christ. The old Judaism died officially with the destruction of the Second Temple and the end of the Aaronic priesthood, but it was on its last legs before that.

According to Catholics Catholicism IS Judaism, a continuation of the old Jewish tradition, and the modern Jews are heretics / betrayers of (the old) Judaism.

[Anonymous No.5686067]

>>5686051
You know that you should attend mass every Sunday at least, right? If not, you know now. Mandatory.

Now that you know, not going is a mortal sin. Enjoy your guilt.

[Anonymous No.5686071]

>>5666759
shh don't ruin the fun with your truth

[Anonymous No.5686074]

>>5686066
Quote from Harold Bloom:

> The other one, which I say in this book and it has already given some offense, is that in fact not only is Judaism, which is a product of the second century of the common era—and it's worked out by people like you know Akiba and his friends and opponents like Ishmael and Tarphon and the others, is a younger religion than Christianity is. Christianity in some form exists in the first century of the common era. What we now call Judaism comes along in the second century of the common era. Christianity is actually the older religion, though it infuriates Jews when you say that to them.

[ΟΥΤΙΣ No.5686080]

Which works of Eastern religion have you read?

[ΟΥΤΙΣ No.5686097]

>>5686066
Judaism is mainly a racial religion, and proselytizing is almost inimical to it.

[Anonymous No.5686121]

>>5686067
Sure i know that, I'm not dumb. And really, if you can't attend Sunday Mass then you shouldn't even bother with religion, Christianity makes much bigger ethical demands than praying in a beautiful building for 45 minutes.
The thing that I feel Catholics got right is discipline. They realize how the Protestant sentiment of "you just gotta believe" ultinately leads to complete religious relativism. Christ didn't die on the cross so we could affirm our intellectual assent he existed, he put profound ethical demands that take a lifetime of habit making and conscience examining. People talk as if Christ made the Jewish law easier to follow. I disagree, what he did is make it much more demanding and mmeaningful. Not eating aome foods and following weird dressing codes may be strange and inconvenient, but Christ reveals that any kind of egoism and pride is a sin. It's up there with Buddhism as the most radical and uncomfortable teaching on this world, and we cover it up by creating hippie love and peace versions of Jesus. Christianity by its very nature can't be integrated into modern culture, if Christ came today he would be a lunatic, an absurd idealist, like he was two thousand years ago, because he claims that everything we strive for is ultimately meaningless and results from our fallen state.

[Anonymous No.5686130]

>>5686097
Agreed, what I've come to realize that Judaism is basically a cultural identity, yoir theological beliwfs are pretty much second place. Christian conceptions of faith don't apply to Judaism at all, and it's why putting "Abrahamic" religions as an umbrella term is so wrong, they're radically different.

[Anonymous No.5686300]

>>5685611
Ich lese sehr viele Bücher. Ich habe mehrere Werke von Kierkegaard (wenn wir es schon von der Philosophie der Theologie haben) gelesen, aber durch Nietzsche und vorallem durch Feuerbach (Gott ist die prjektion des idealen Menschens) kann ich den Glauben an einen Gott nicht mehr ganz ernst nehmen.

Abgesehen vom Allgemeinem (existenz Gottes) kann man sagen, dass der Islam sehr viel verspricht was er nicht hält. Ich hab den Koran gelesen und mich auch von Schriften anderer Autoren beschäftigt, aber alle können die existenziellen Fragen nicht beanworten. Zirkuläre Logik (der Koran sagt, dass der Koran stimmt) oder subjektive Aussagen (Du musst zu Gott finden! Oder: Mohammed hat NIE gelogen) sind nicht zufriedenstellend.

Wenn es für dich zufriedenstellend ist kannst du ja ruhig an deinen Gott und seinem Propheten Mohammed glauben, aber du brauchst mir nicht unterstellen, ich sei nicht belesen genug diese Aussagen formulieren zu dürfen.

[Anonymous No.5686605]

>>5686300
Deine Antworten waren kurz. Da kann man ja fälschlicherweise denken, das einer nur daher redet. Also hier eine Diskussion anzufangen wäre lang. Natürlich brauchst du nicht an Gott zu denken, aber auch du, wie jedes Materie wurde erschaffen und wird auch wieder enden. Astronomie und Quantentheorie sind heutzutage nicht komplett geklärt. Wie bei der Frage vom Göhtes werk Faust. Was hält die welt im innersten zusammen. Grübelt der Mensch bis heute. Wieso also nicht glauben. Auch du glaubst, entweder an den rand des Universums oder ans unendlich, spielt keine rolle du hast es nicht gesehen. Eines Wissen wir Menschen. Wir sind endlich. Und unser Herz, liegt im Stress , des zum Ende hingehen. Du kannst dich alleine, ohne dich von jemandem zu beeinflussen gedanken machen, wonach das dauernde ticken im Brust enden wird. Du fühlst dich wohl diese welt geklärt zuhaben. Aber die andere Welt, dunkelheit, nichts, das ende, wie du es nennst. Kann nur Religion erklären. Ein Strichmännchen in der zwei dimensionen Blatt papier, kannst du die welt von 3d nicht erklären oder es sehen lassen, es kann danach nur glauben! Ich kann leider nicht gut english. Excuse me! Everyone

[Anonymous No.5686976]

>>5686066
WTF NO

[Anonymous No.5686983]

goyim LOL

[Anonymous No.5687001]

>>5666731
As a jew I feel more attraction for Shintoism, Judaism is also fun, well in fact all religions are fun. Dudes, I think killing in the name of a religion is more stupid than vanilla hentai, just enjoy the religion you were born or change it if you want, but don't go to the institution they are all false. The best temple is in your house.

[Anonymous No.5687021]

>>5687001
Oh look a Jew encouraging cultural degeneration, what a surprise. I bet YOU go to synagogue every week though, right? Immorality and degeneracy is only for the goyim after all.

[Anonymous No.5687040]

>>5687001
fuck off kike

[Anonymous No.5687048]

I was born Orthodox Christian, baptised and everything.

Then I started practicing pagan religions like Buddhism. How do I go back to the Truth and make up for my sins?

[Anonymous No.5687057]

>>5687048
god tier

[Anonymous No.5687074]

>>5687021

[Anonymous No.5687085]

>>5687001
>As a jew

[Anonymous No.5687130]

>>5666731

OP explain Abraham and Isaac to me. Why did God ask such a stupid thing?

[Anonymous No.5687132]

>>5687130

Fear and Trembling, by Kierkegaard

[Anonymous No.5687136]

>>5687132

read the filename.

[Anonymous No.5687142]

Eastern religions are clearly superior doctrine wise. Fewer absolutely retarded conceptions like free will and "deserving eternal suffering" or really moral responsibility and guilt in general.

However in actual practice Eastern religions are not necessarily superior. Abrahamic religions are superior as socialization tools, they work better for instilling values in children and providing community.

[Anonymous No.5687160]

>>5687142

Eastern religions are full of moral responsibility, the whole concept of karma is based around it.

Eternal punishment comes in the form of shitty rebirths for those who act shitty.

[Anonymous No.5687219]

>>5687142
Objective truth means objective evil.

Every religion (and human worldview) believes in moral agency and the unforgivable, it's just most of them are not explicit about it.

[Anonymous No.5687229]

>>5687160
The fact is, reincarnation is not integral in most "Eastern religions".

[Anonymous No.5687243]

>>5687130
To see what comes first to him, I guess.

Carrying out the sacrifice was pointless after it became clear.

[Anonymous No.5687252]

>>5687229
>The fact is, reincarnation is not integral in most "Eastern religions".

It is integral to "eastern religions"; it's just not integral to Western Hippie versions of "eastern religions"

because westerners have a secular bias/dogma.

[Anonymous No.5687271]

>>5680803
Ah Spinoccio

[Anonymous No.5687293]

>>5687130
trying to see how much bullshit he will take. like women do.

[Anonymous No.5687304]

>>5671110