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Anonymous Tue Jul 29 06:11:25 2014 No.5207684 [Reply] [Original]

>be me
>study computer science
>get into philosophy/psychology 2 years ago.
> start with nietzsche
>then on to freud, jung, campbell, ernest becker, watts, sartre (orwell, goethe)
>stirner last (reading now).

>just discovered wittgenstein 2 days ago.
>Started reading philosophical investigations
>mfw

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 29 06:16:47 2014 No.5207699 So are you reading Stirner or Witt?

Anonymous Tue Jul 29 06:21:05 2014 No.5207706

>>5207699
Both. The idea of the thread is that I've always wnated to know how language is learnt and Witt's
"What cannot be said, we must pass over in silence" is a thing for me.
Also, it has tons of shit to do with computer science and logic programming I suppose.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 29 06:30:22 2014 No.5207733 >>5207706 You know that must isn't a moral instruction there?

Anonymous Tue Jul 29 06:33:46 2014 No.5207745

>>5207706
He says that in the Tractatus, not Investigations

But yeah Witt was really interested in psychology and even wanted to be a psychologist. One of his best friends, Maurice Drury, studied under him to be a philosopher and Witt advised him to become a psychologist instead. Drury has written a book called "The Danger of Words" about language and psychology which has been called the most Wittgensteinian text not written by the man himself. I have not read it though as I believe it is very difficult to get a hold of.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 29 06:35:04 2014 No.5207750 >>5207684 >he didn't start with the Greeks >he didn't reak Kierkegaard despite starting from the existencialist

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 29 07:48:10 2014 No.5207933 >>5207733 The guy doesnt talk about ethics so... >>5207745 I know. I took a look in Tractatus.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 29 07:50:22 2014 No.5207938 >>5207933 >The guy doesnt talk about ethics so... Yes he does. Look up his lecture on ethics.

Anonymous Tue Jul 29 07:51:25 2014 No.5207940

>>5207750
I tried Plato. I started it. I'll read it when I feel like it. If I read it now, I'll be forcing myself to do it and I don't wanna do that.
Some Kierkegarrd was included in in Denial of Death by Ernest Becker so Im familiar with the guy.
Im only reading books that attract my interest not the ones Im supposed to, Reading books that im supposed to for my studies is enough.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 29 07:55:38 2014 No.5207949 >>5207940 >I'll read it when I feel like it Might as well dictate every belief and perception to begin with.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 29 07:57:30 2014 No.5207955 >>5207949 I don't understand.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 29 07:59:25 2014 No.5207960 >>5207949 >>5207955 OP here. Neither do I.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 29 08:07:29 2014 No.5207982 >>5207955 >>5207960 You're not into philosophy.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 29 08:12:21 2014 No.5207994 >>5207982 Care to enlighten ?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 29 08:24:04 2014 No.5208030 >>5207982 Stop being edgy and explain.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 29 08:26:05 2014 No.5208033 >>5207994 >nitpicks philosophy mindlessly >asks for clarity Can't say I didn't see that coming.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 29 08:26:50 2014 No.5208036 >>5207955 >>5207960 He means if you only read what is comfortable for you then you won't gain anything substantial. It's half true, take his advice.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 29 08:30:16 2014 No.5208050 >>5208036 It would be good advice if it wasn't just an elaborate way of saying "start with the Greeks"

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 29 08:31:41 2014 No.5208054 >>5207684 This is seriously the second worst active thread on this board.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 29 08:33:43 2014 No.5208062 >>5208054 Get the fuck out then.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 29 08:34:56 2014 No.5208066 >>5208062 Or how about you delete this penultimate shitty thread, you stem faggot.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 29 08:35:48 2014 No.5208067 what a useless thread (thanks)

Anonymous Tue Jul 29 08:36:54 2014 No.5208074

>>5208036
If comfortable means easy to understand then Im not doing that and Im ok with the advice.
If it means something that you're interested in then I do not agree entirely because in a sense thats like studying rocked science when you wanna play football

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 29 08:41:21 2014 No.5208091 /lit, you are a shitty board filled with shit heads

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 29 08:44:13 2014 No.5208103 >>5208054 >>5208066 >>5208067 >>5208091 Being this edgy.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 29 09:32:15 2014 No.5208228 >>5208054 Here's some advice: >>>/out/

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 29 09:33:45 2014 No.5208235 >stirner and witty this kills the philosophy

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 29 15:28:15 2014 No.5209972 So can we get back to why you chose majoring in CS instead of Philosophy. Looking for a better reason than "CS is where the money is at"

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 30 01:43:39 2014 No.5212342 >>5207684 >computer science >studying Lol, go get a real major you fucking idiot. By the way, OP is actually a huge faggot jesus christ kill yourself.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 30 01:45:40 2014 No.5212348 >>5209972 That is literally the only reason. The people who major in CS are literally fucking retarded, philistine fuckfaces who constantly brag/obsess about money and material status. You don't major in CS, you suffer through it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 30 01:46:50 2014 No.5212353 >>5207750 >first-order philosophy No.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 30 01:47:13 2014 No.5212355 File: 27 KB, 666x408, philosophy.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] You've found real philosophy. You can ignore the opinionated ramblings of drunk pig farmers like Nietzsche now.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 30 01:49:39 2014 No.5212367 >>5212355 Aphoristic philosophy has its time and place.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 30 01:50:37 2014 No.5212370 File: 687 KB, 1242x512, 1406633674970.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5212355 >analytic philosophy >"real philosophy"

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 30 01:52:20 2014 No.5212375 >>5212370 So analytic philosophy is like science and continental philosophy is like religion?

Anonymous Wed Jul 30 01:54:20 2014 No.5212382

>>5212375
Exactly right. Analytical philosophy is a bourgeois mysticism that has brought humanity to the brink, whereas continental philosophy evolves directly from the lived experience of the labouring masses and has informed more revolts against the value form than you've had hot blowjobs.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 30 01:55:06 2014 No.5212384 >>5212375 Neither are science

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 30 01:55:43 2014 No.5212388 >>5212375 Actually, analytic philosophy is incredibly dogmatic. Continental philosophy isn't.

Anonymous Wed Jul 30 02:09:18 2014 No.5212424
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Analytic philosophers that actually matter:
-Wittgenstein

Continental philosophers that actually matter:
-Kant
-Fichte
-Hegel
-Schelling
-Kierkegaard
-Schopenhauer
-Nietzsche
-Marx
-Husserl
-Heidegger
-Levinas
-De Beauvoir
-Merleau-Ponty
-Horkheimer
-Habermas
-Lukacs
-Lefort
-Levi-Strauss
-Deleuze
-Lyotard
-Agamben
-Badiou
-Negri

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 30 02:29:33 2014 No.5212482 >>5207684 Wait until you read Heidegger.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 30 02:35:53 2014 No.5212507 >>5212388 That's a pretty dogmatic thing to say. Did you reach that conclusion using analytical or continental philosophy?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 30 02:38:43 2014 No.5212513 >>5207684 How the fuck is you studying CS relevant?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 30 02:41:54 2014 No.5212518 >>5207706 Plenty of programmers were philosophy majors in the early days of silicone valley

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 30 02:42:28 2014 No.5212523 >>5212348 >tfw i'm exactly like this

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 30 02:53:59 2014 No.5212541 >>5212424 Yeah but Wittgenstein is a power lifter and all continental philosophers are a bunch of skinny fats who hit the gym on the weekends

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 30 03:21:57 2014 No.5212619 >>5212513 It illustrates his anti-academic background which is the reason why he was impressed by philosophical trivialities in the first place.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 30 04:35:26 2014 No.5212775 >>5212384 get rekt

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 30 04:44:37 2014 No.5212804 >>5212355 >opinionated ramblings of drunk pig farmers like Nietzsche now. I lol'd

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 30 05:09:58 2014 No.5212854 >>5212388 From my point of view the Jedi are evil

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 30 05:54:00 2014 No.5212932 >>5212854 That's actually Zizek's point of view too. You sure you aren't a continental?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 30 12:05:44 2014 No.5214036 >be me Who else would you be newfriend Also who cares that you're a CompSci major, does it make you feel like a special snowflake "bragging" that you're into philosophy in an anonymous Cambodian imageboard?

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