Hey /lit/, who should I read to become totally redpilled by the end of the summer? So far, I've been told to read: >Marx >Freud >Nietzsche >Lacan >Foucault >Althusser >Frankfurt School >Baudrillard Anything else?

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Anonymous Sat Jul 12 15:34:44 2014 No.5128676 [DELETED]

Hey /lit/, who should I read to become totally redpilled by the end of the summer? So far, I've been told to read:
>Marx
>Freud
>Nietzsche
>Lacan
>Foucault
>Althusser
>Frankfurt School
>Baudrillard

Anything else?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 12 15:39:27 2014 No.5128689 >redpill

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 12 15:43:03 2014 No.5128700 File: 978 KB, 500x282, fag3.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >hollow /pol/ memes

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 12 15:44:03 2014 No.5128703 the only redpill is that there is no redpill. uncertainty reigns. don't let doubt eat you alive. good luck.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 12 15:44:54 2014 No.5128708 >>5128676 >>>/pol/

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 12 15:45:05 2014 No.5128709 >>5128689 >>5128700 >>5128703 >reacting this kneejerkingly to a stupid tongue in cheek catchphrase meaning "i want the real skinny on this thing yo, srs"

>>	le trole faec ಠ_ಠ !Avm1fqtITk Sat Jul 12 15:45:27 2014 No.5128711 >>5128676 >implying the blue and red pills aren't both illusions

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 12 15:45:45 2014 No.5128713 Obfuscated sociological claims? Add Hitler to that list.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 12 15:48:08 2014 No.5128728 File: 839 KB, 2310x830, 1400802409216.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >red pill >not brown pill Get your priorities straight. You're on 4chan.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 12 15:52:56 2014 No.5128745 >>5128676 Zizek

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 12 16:11:59 2014 No.5128779 >>5128676 read hegel before marx

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 12 16:12:34 2014 No.5128781 Stirner /thread

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 12 16:17:37 2014 No.5128788 >>5128676 implying you're versed in the former half to understand the latter half of these faggots.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 12 16:25:46 2014 No.5128805 >redpill We must clean the /pol/ution from /li/ m8s. Back to /pol/ with you ebin mayamys. I bet you haven't read a single philosophy book, nor a scientific one because "da jooz control everything!".

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 12 16:26:20 2014 No.5128806 >>5128805 >Aspergers

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 12 16:28:02 2014 No.5128811 That's a capsule not a pill

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 12 16:28:11 2014 No.5128812 Where did the "red pill" thing come from? I don't mean the Matrix, I mean the way it's used online in this context. I doubt it originated from /pol/. I know MRAs/PUAs use it a lot. Do the neo-reactionaries use it?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 12 16:29:47 2014 No.5128819 >>5128812 Well neonazis and neo-reactionaries use memes to attract minors to join their ranks. I dont know if it originated on /pol/, I think /q/ maybe.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 12 16:30:21 2014 No.5128822 File: 89 KB, 279x388, Long-Acting-CoughGels.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] sup nigs

Anonymous Sat Jul 12 16:33:20 2014 No.5128830

>>5128819
If you don't realize jewish people at the very least look out for their own and manipulate public image while discouraging others from doing the same then you are a flat-out idiot. You're just upset because every leftist image macro has over a paragraph of text and isn't funny.

>Tfw both sides of the political game are full retard
>Tfw extremes play against the middle

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 12 16:36:10 2014 No.5128835 >>5128830 wat Did you answered my post? I think you confused.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 12 16:40:46 2014 No.5128847 >>5128676 Stirner, Siddartha Gautamas discourses and Paradise Lost

Anonymous Sat Jul 12 16:41:06 2014 No.5128849

>>5128676
Mystery, of "The Mystery Method."
Not even kidding. When people want to criticise PUA lore, people post his picture. The guy dresses like a clown because it gets him chicks. It is a conscious strategy. I'm simply not that horny, but I have learned from him.

Become familiar with the term "shit test." It's pretty much the key to womankind - a kind of sounding out of how eager you are to please her, which correlates to how desperate you are for sex, which correlates to how low you are in the tribal pecking order. Totally unconscious. But this sort of thing is why women rave about "intuition" - social dynamics determine whether women feel attraction. Beta behaviour is as disgusting to them as fat chicks are to visually dominated men.

I keep hearing "The Red Queen" and "Sperm Wars" quoted by these people, so they're probably worth looking into.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 12 17:13:03 2014 No.5128935 >>5128676 Be ironpilled faggot

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 13 11:25:32 2014 No.5131563 >>5128711 >being this PoMo

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 13 11:27:13 2014 No.5131567 >>5128676 Marx, yes. Freud, no, charlatan. Nietzsche, only if you're under 15 or really like opinions. Lacan, charlatan. Baudrillard, yes.

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>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 13 14:47:54 2014 No.5132254 >>5131567 Elaborate pls

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 13 14:53:07 2014 No.5132276 File: 20 KB, 266x400, Symbolic-Exchange-and-Death-9780803983991.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5131567 >disregards freud and lacan >still recommends baudrillard without blushing

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 13 14:54:22 2014 No.5132282 >>5132276 I agree but Marx is the most important, and anon got that right at least.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 13 14:55:47 2014 No.5132289 >>5131567 A rule of thumb: anyone who downplays the value and profundity of nietzsche is an idiot and should be disregarded.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 13 14:57:41 2014 No.5132302 >>5131587 is this about dark souls' covenants or something?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 13 14:58:50 2014 No.5132305 >>5128728 What the fuck do all these "pills" even mean? I know that redpill generally means edgy white supremacists but how did the others develop?

Anonymous Sun Jul 13 15:00:58 2014 No.5132315
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>>5128676
this might get shot down because I don't know if /lit/ likes them, but consider starting with berger/luckmann; the social construction of reality is fairly short and an easy read

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 13 15:10:33 2014 No.5132353 >>5132289 I know someone who claims Nietzsche isn't worth his time reading because he "wasn't influential." Fuck that shit.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 13 15:14:42 2014 No.5132368 >>5132289 this kind of post is the very reason why I do NOT want to read nietschze.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 13 15:17:07 2014 No.5132378 >>5132315 This is a great book. 2nded.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 13 15:22:28 2014 No.5132396 >>5132305 have you ever seen the matrix?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 13 15:23:57 2014 No.5132405 >>5132396 I'm familiar with what the idea of a "pill" is in that sense, but the "iron pill" and whatnot are what's confusing me.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 13 15:25:19 2014 No.5132410 deleuze and guattari skip the baud, read virilio

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 13 15:27:41 2014 No.5132419 >>5132410 Later Baudrillard is full-on charlatan (early Baud is decent), but Virilio is worse. D&G are too ivory-tower-ish and wrong so much.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 13 15:29:42 2014 No.5132426 >>5132410 just read deleuze

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 13 15:31:20 2014 No.5132431 >>5128676 Read Stirner and you can skip the philosophy books.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 13 15:33:52 2014 No.5132447 >>5132368 Well your loss. I'm not even that much of a Nietzsche fan, but it is absurd to say about one of the greatest minds of history "only if you are 15 and like opinions".

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 13 15:41:15 2014 No.5132480 >>5128676 >Nietzsche >Foucault >Frankfurst School drop them read German idealism authors starting from Kant + Hobbes + Descartes. you may finish with Heidegger

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 13 15:53:53 2014 No.5132529 >>5128676 Your list is fucking retarded you shithead start with the greeks

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 13 15:55:27 2014 No.5132539 >>5132529 >not starting with Thoth You goys don't even know what it means to be redpilled.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 13 18:21:50 2014 No.5133086 >>5132447 >one of the greatest minds of history give me 3 facts that changed my life which wouldn't have occured without him.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 13 18:25:08 2014 No.5133098 >>5132539 >what is Epic of Gilgamesh >>5132529 >ignore the fact that greeks have been poorly copying the vedas

Anonymous Sun Jul 13 18:35:29 2014 No.5133120

>>5133086
How should I know. As far as I know you could be a hick on a farm and the only things that influenced your life is the evolution of agricultural technologies, getting cable connection and the opening of the only japanese restaurants in a 400 miles radius.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 14 02:35:28 2014 No.5134569 >>5128676 Read deez lol

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 14 03:25:44 2014 No.5134665 File: 13 KB, 226x326, g.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5133120 yes, but shouldn't the greatest minds of history be the guys with the broadest influence? that "great minds" thing sounds to me like inner-circle-jerking most of the time.

>>	Feminister !!F9QVQ82MjmE Mon Jul 14 03:29:02 2014 No.5134674 >Psychoanalysis You enjoy candy bars because muh dick >Frankfurt School You aren't a communist because muh dick >Althusser You can't prove Marx wrong except with Marx, any other methods are unfair. >redpill

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 14 03:38:03 2014 No.5134699 >>5132405 That's because you are an idiot and probably havent started with the Greeks. Just lurk more.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 14 03:39:08 2014 No.5134701 >>5128676 >/pol/ >reading

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 14 03:48:44 2014 No.5134719 >>5134699 well I chuckled at your image so thanks

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 14 03:57:26 2014 No.5134741 File: 208 KB, 850x1026, 1323476565045.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Bataille, Deleuze, Heidegger, Nick Land, all very strong in combination with OP list.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 14 03:58:28 2014 No.5134747 >>5132480 Dashing all those and then suggesting Heidegger is beyond moronic.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 14 04:00:12 2014 No.5134753 File: 26 KB, 460x288, rich wrinkled fuck.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >studying the retarded shit Hegel spawned

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 14 04:02:26 2014 No.5134757 >>5134753 >reading Hegel from the viewpoint of the left-hegelians

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 14 04:13:05 2014 No.5134774 >>5134741 >reality Enjoy talking to Cthulhu and losing your grip on reality while I fuq u're touhou.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 14 04:13:09 2014 No.5134775 File: 184 KB, 800x850, 1396922249459.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5134741 Cute 2hu, dude.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 14 04:24:44 2014 No.5134788 >>5128676 Those are shit. Read Ayn Rand and Hayek's "Road to Serfdom"

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 14 04:31:09 2014 No.5134802 >>5131567 add debord to that lol hes like baudrillard but not fucking dumb >>5132276 that goes for you too

Anonymous Mon Jul 14 04:41:58 2014 No.5134829

>>5134665
>but shouldn't the greatest minds of history be the guys with the broadest influence?
no.
Hitler influenced society a massive amount, but wasn't that bright.
People who stumbled across simple inventions revolutionised society and influenced your life, but weren't necessarily that bright
defining greatness of mind by influence on ones own life is pretty fucking moronic
history hasn't been influenced by proust or joyce, but they were still greater minds than influential politicians/kings whose influence was coincidental to mind

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 14 04:43:05 2014 No.5134832 >>5134788 actually laughed aloud

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 14 04:44:35 2014 No.5134836 >>5134674 Your vitriol for psychoanalysis because you envy their penises.

Anonymous Mon Jul 14 04:57:10 2014 No.5134849

>>5128676
>>Marx
Yes, he is a classic Jew who wants to enslave the shabbos goyim (workers). Note his purposefully false economics. He attempted to fulfil the globalist, single Jewish state prophecy of the Zohar. Watch this documentary: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJxdIXgMGAI

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 14 05:08:54 2014 No.5134868 >>5128676 Russell - history of western philosophy

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 14 05:13:29 2014 No.5134876 File: 127 KB, 831x981, image.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5134868 >b-b-but he makes fun of muh Nietzsche >mfw fanboy tears

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 14 05:24:32 2014 No.5134888 >>5134876 and so he should. his critique of Nietzsche hold water. plus, most nietzsche-freaks haven't read his works, just quotes. they don't have the back-reading to understand him, but decided they agree with him anyway because oh-so-edgy.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 14 05:26:18 2014 No.5134892 >>5134888 They are also usually nihilists, which is funny because Nietzsche hated nihilism.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 14 05:27:09 2014 No.5134893 >>5134888 ditto ayn rand btw

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 14 05:30:16 2014 No.5134894 >>5134892 "I am a nihilist" - meaning what? nothing? and thus you have thrown a teenager into a paradox . like a piece of paper that says "please turn over" on both sides.

Anonymous Mon Jul 14 05:49:05 2014 No.5134915

>>5134892
>They are also usually nihilists, which is funny because Nietzsche hated nihilism.
just fyi: What Nietzsche calls nihilism is what normal people call humanism, christianity, etc.
What Nietzsche believes ('I have my way, you have yours, as for the one true right way, it does not exist') is what normal people call nihilism.

People being nihilists and liking Nietzsche is entirely coherent. If anything is 'funny', it's that you think you are being smarter than someone else in this scenario...

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 14 05:54:11 2014 No.5134920 >>5134915 >the overman >not Nietzsche's attempt at an objective solution to the problem of nihilism in the wake of the death of God, the death of traditional objective morality You're stupid.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 14 06:08:00 2014 No.5134934 >>5134920 no, i'm right

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 14 06:10:17 2014 No.5134936 File: 13 KB, 200x240, armond-white-200fp083010.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Armond White.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 14 06:17:08 2014 No.5134945 File: 7 KB, 205x245, martin.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5134747 Because he's hard or? Heidegger's Kantbook is very insightful in problem of metaphysics and on /lit/ it's really hate or love for this guy. Why?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 14 06:20:12 2014 No.5134948 >>5134945 *oh wait, if you mean that Foucault was hugely influenced by Heidegger then you're right, but IMO his interpretation is completly inaccurate

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 14 06:31:19 2014 No.5134966 >>5128728 > bread & circus > wearing a barça shirt mi negro.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 14 06:33:37 2014 No.5134971 >>5128830 the general verdict of postmodernist philosophy is that all developed societies do those things

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 14 06:34:47 2014 No.5134974 >>5131587 > "God Delusion" inside blue pill > "tarot cards" inside brown pill > "Not for the charlatan "readings" but to learn the secrets of the universe" Guess who is wearing a trilby now.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 14 06:37:18 2014 No.5134982 >>5134974 God Delusion encourages anti-intellectual thinking and gives simple answers for complicated problems. It's easily bluepill stuff, like Moral Landscape too. anyways, that pic is not serious if you cant tell

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 14 06:58:49 2014 No.5135009 >>5131587 >Brown Pill Dan Brown Pill, sure enough.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 14 07:09:21 2014 No.5135031 >>5131567 Get a load of this commie faggot.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 14 07:11:14 2014 No.5135035 >>5134665 I don't think you should read books.

Anonymous Mon Jul 14 07:11:52 2014 No.5135037

>>5128676
If you want to be edgy, go read Camus. If you want to be well-informed, go read Russel's history of western philosophy, and use that as a way to find out which authors you want to know more about.
There's also a 1930's author who wrote a history of tolerance, who describes various philosophers too, but I lost his name. He makes a nice addition to Russel though.

Anonymous Mon Jul 14 07:43:34 2014 No.5135118

>>5135037
Russell's history of philosophy is highly inaccurate and biased.

Anthony Kenny's History is still pretty biased but it works better.

Unfortunately english speaking countries don't teach philosophy in highschools so they don't have people writing more or less balanced text books on the history of philosophy.

Otherwise you can listen to this which is the most complete and interesting course I've seen: http://www.historyofphilosophy.net/

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 14 07:54:26 2014 No.5135149 >>5135118 >Unfortunately english speaking countries don't teach philosophy in highschools What?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 14 07:59:43 2014 No.5135161 >>5135149 They teach it through the veins of Religious Studies unfortunately.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 14 08:00:46 2014 No.5135165 >>5135161 That is wrong. I am an Anglo and my high school/college taught philosophy.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 14 08:01:00 2014 No.5135166 >>5135149 They don't have philosophy in the US, at least it's not obligatory and I don't know anyone who did. Same in the UK, there is no philosophy, as far as I know in highschools. Australia and Nz I don't know.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 14 08:02:54 2014 No.5135171 >>5135166 In Tasmania we have it in college (year 11 and 12)

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 14 08:03:39 2014 No.5135173 >>5135165 so what is your text book?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 14 08:06:03 2014 No.5135180 >>5134849 /pol/

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 14 08:09:37 2014 No.5135190 >>5135173 Introduction to philosophy and ethics was mine, but that is not typical of the college philosophy experience. Secular schools study other areas.

Anonymous Mon Jul 14 08:16:52 2014 No.5135203

>>5134829
lol, your way to define greatest mind is the stupidest thing I'v read in a while.

Literally no one cares about Joyce u know, just some autistic /lit/-NEETs who didn't even read him.

And clap-clap for the godwin point after just one reply.

Just fyi, Hitler is considered to be a great mind. He started from nothing and all by himself almost succeeded being the führer of all Europe.
That absolutely doesn't mean he acted right.
Same for all big conquerors (Alexander the Great, Genghis Khan, Napoleon and so on ; they were total badasses mastering their shit, but "awww they killed people, too bad").

Being gifted worth nothing if it has no effect.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 14 08:23:27 2014 No.5135214 >>5135203 >Hitler is considered to be a great mind no.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 14 08:25:01 2014 No.5135217 >>5135203 >give me 3 facts that changed my life which wouldn't have occured without Alexander the Great

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 14 08:26:44 2014 No.5135220 >>5135190 Ah I see. My fault then, my point is that since in Italy they have three years of history of philosophy they actually have pretty good text books that are both accurate and not biased towards the author's personal philosophical pet projects.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 14 12:36:43 2014 No.5135723 >>5135214 comicism.tripod.com/iq.html the claims are sauced. I can understand you don't like the idea, but c'mon an average dude can't achieve what he did.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 14 12:48:31 2014 No.5135758 >>5128676 Evola Hobbes

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 14 12:55:44 2014 No.5135778 >>5128676 Guy Debord Marshall McLuhan

Anonymous Mon Jul 14 12:55:55 2014 No.5135780

>>5135217
>he was almost deified for his deeds by the Romans, Stone, Napoleon, and many many many generals. They tried all along to imitate him at best and doing so shaped the world as we know it.

>he introduced the (persian) idea of absolute monarchy to the greco-roman world, which has become a pretty big deal.

>he extended/imposed the use of greek, which had a big impact on commerce and religion. (Dude, he's the reason why new testament has been written in Greek)

Also, en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_depictions_of_Alexander_the_Great

>>5135217
>that changed my life
is of course a bit too much, but you get the idea: he left an actual legacy, not just intangible stuff of no use.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 14 12:56:56 2014 No.5135782 File: 15 KB, 452x198, polplzgo.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5135778 >Guy Debord ahaha, overrated shit remains shit.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 14 13:31:06 2014 No.5135904 >>5128812 First time I heard it not in relation to the Matrix was about 9/11

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 14 13:34:15 2014 No.5135913 >>5132305 >how did the others develop? It's from comics /x/ made.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 14 14:46:54 2014 No.5136184 Jung. Kant. Kirkegaard. You won't be enlightened, you'll just be really, really unhappy.

Anonymous Mon Jul 14 14:51:04 2014 No.5136205

>>5132305
>What the fuck do all these "pills" even mean?
It's from the matrix film, but it doesn't really matter. You should use any instance of colored pills being used as a verb as a sign to hide that post. You will never see anything of value posted by someone discussing being 'redpilled'.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 14 14:52:17 2014 No.5136211 >>5135782 >has never read debord's works or watched debord's films

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 14 14:53:19 2014 No.5136215 >>5135778 these are good suggestions >>5135758 these are utter shit

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 14 14:55:11 2014 No.5136223 >>5131567 >Freud >charlatan i don't think you know what you're talking about.

Anonymous Mon Jul 14 14:57:10 2014 No.5136238

>>5132426
>>5132419
>has never read the three ecologies, the machinic unconscious, molecular revolution in brazil, or new lines of alliance, new spaces of liberty

guattari is pretty good stuff, too. bear in mind deleuze didn't formulate an inversion of lacanian p-a until guattari joined up

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 14 15:02:45 2014 No.5136267 >>5128676 Conrad

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 14 15:20:16 2014 No.5136349 >>5136211 I did, that's why I'm allowed to say it's pure edgy trash. Listen to the Onfray talk about Debord, "construction of a legend" it's fucking hilarious.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 14 15:24:14 2014 No.5136365 File: 37 KB, 311x500, 51KnElDknML._.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5136223 it's time for you to read this book. "Twilight of an Idol, Freud’s fabulation". You're gonna be black-pilled, my fellow

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 14 15:31:36 2014 No.5136381 >>5136365 no. i've read most all of freud's writings. it seems to me like you're using the word charlatan wrong, or simply haven't read much of freud's stuff.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 14 15:32:38 2014 No.5136388 >>5136349 >>5136365 >outs himself as retarded Onfray promoter Okay.

Anonymous Mon Jul 14 16:54:41 2014 No.5136740

>>5136388
not Onfray's promoteur.
But unlike most of the pseudo-intellectual guys nowadays, he back up his claims.

And the fun story is that people always attack him and never the facts he reports.

>>5136381
>the word charlatan wrong
if you had enough faith to read "most of freud's writings",please have a quick look at this book (easily available fro free), it won't be too difficult for you. You'll understand "charlatan" is a very polite word for absolute cunt.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 14 16:55:35 2014 No.5136744 >>5136740 >thinks Onfray is worth anything at all

Anonymous Mon Jul 14 16:58:15 2014 No.5136761
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>>5136381
>>5136388
Without Onfray this time.

Freud was a thief obsessed by sex and cocaine.
Dot.
Contributed for nothing to "science".
Dot.
Never healed anybody (compared to placebo effect). He actually said it himself "psychotherapy doesn't heal"
Final dot.

Anonymous Mon Jul 14 16:59:58 2014 No.5136769

>>5136744
>thinks Onfray is worth anything at all

how humorous.
look,
>>5136740
>And the fun story is that people always attack him and never the facts he reports.

Onfray or anyone else, I fucking don't care.
But why everybody attack the guy and not the facts. Because he sauces them, maybe.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 14 17:05:04 2014 No.5136788 >>5134753 >rich Russell had to write books to maintain a living by the 1940s. He rushed A History of Western Philosophy for purely financial reasons. He was a true pleb.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 14 17:15:41 2014 No.5136846 >>5128728 What is political non-euclidean?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 14 19:14:29 2014 No.5137377 >>5128676 here you go, OP: heartiste.wordpress.com

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 14 22:38:47 2014 No.5138254 >>5137377 GOAT blog he can come off pretty ignorant on politics and somewhat hateful on race but he's goddamn hilarious.

Anonymous Mon Jul 14 22:51:27 2014 No.5138317

>>5136761
Your three statements are actually kinda of false considering that:
-Considering that multiple people that work in neurology consider themselves in debt with freud. Kandel is a prime example so he did contribute to science.

-He wasn't obsessed with cocained. He actually pretty sedate, never got hooked up and that's why he thought it could be used to calm opium addiction. Later in his life he always felt guilty because of the death of his friend. Besides that it's an ad hominem.

-It's hard to back up that statement because you don't have access to the patients. We have the letters and the comments of a couple of people like little hans. But it's true the inefficacy of the therapy is the biggest problem with psychoanalysis.

The second better problem is that it's not falsifiable and the third that it's impossible to build on the theory or to teach analysis.

But besides that conceptually I still have to see a critic of psychoanalytic concepts that are solid. The truth is, that no matter how much you don't want it, psychoanalysis is the best theory of mind that we have.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 15 09:23:06 2014 No.5139946 File: 19 KB, 300x300, ManEconomyState.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] This, and "Egalitarianism as a revolt against nature" are the most redpilled books i have ever read.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 15 12:51:54 2014 No.5140458 File: 1.93 MB, 320x180, 1398527410458.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5138317 >psychoanalysis is the best theory of mind that we have.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 15 13:00:23 2014 No.5140483 >>5138317 >I still have to see a critic of psychoanalytic concepts that are solid. 1) read >>5136761 2) profit

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 15 15:11:47 2014 No.5140982 >>5128676 I find significant holes in the "red pill" literature. I think more liberal literature is required. Read Rawls for theory. (Political Liberalism) For praxis, and excellent praxis at that, read "Politics and Passion" - by Walzer

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 15 18:55:34 2014 No.5141750 Nietzsche is as bluepill as it gets >b-but my ex-nihillo values, I am not a slave!

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