/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.5052854]

wut?

[Anonymous No.5052858]

>that thing
>she

[Anonymous No.5052861]

I recall there being a thread about this a few weeks ago.

[Anonymous No.5052869]

>>5052854
What exactly are we discussing about her? The singular "wut", when applied to a passage, usually indicates something to discuss, but that's her entire Wikipedia intro summary.

[Anonymous No.5052881]

>>5052869
Look at the bottom portion of the summary the OP screencap'd you lazy fuck.

[Anonymous No.5052887]

OK, it's kind of transmisogynistic to make fun of her for pursuing a PERSONAL SURGERY that likely relieved her of YEARS of stress and self-contempt.

[Anonymous No.5053001]

>>5052854
>>5052861
>>5052881
>>5052887
Why do we care about her mole so much? Is she famous for hating surgery or something?

[Anonymous No.5053009]

>>5052854
>Butler was born in Cleveland, Ohio,[9] to a family of Hungarian and Russian Jewish descent.[10]

[Anonymous No.5053031]

>>5053001
to a retarded, loud, and crazy feminist, a woman only cares about her appearance because the patriarchy. Her getting surgery to modify her body is a statement that her body wasn't acceptable to her, which is either an insult to people with moles, or internalized sexism.

[Anonymous No.5053037]

>>5053031
Internalized moleism

It could have been malignant and life-threatening, not just cosmetic

[Anonymous No.5053043]

>>5052854

>mfw I signed up for a course on hermeneutics and deconstruction and I'm now being forced to read Judith Butler and write an essay on her

Such is life in 'murica.

[Anonymous No.5053046]

>>5053031
>an insult to people with moles
Jesus christ, are mole people really that sensitive?

[Anonymous No.5053052]

>>5053043
>nigga sign up for a course on a topic where Butler is a proeminent figure
>complains of having to write an essay on here

Such is life for retards.

>>5053031
> to a feminist, a woman only cares about her appearance because the patriarchy

That's wrong. To a feminist, a woman sholdn't base her appearance on what patriarchy dictates. That doesn't mean she shouldn't care about it. Perhaps Butler simply didn't like her mole.

[Anonymous No.5053062]

>>5053052

>Butler
>prominent

It's understandable that you want to push your Cultural Marxism onto everybody else, but seriously, just fuck off.

[Anonymouse !7tLDpBrPEk No.5053076]

>>5053037

Word.
Won't stop the bickering, though

[Anonymous No.5053082]

>>5053062
fuck off troll and/or retard

[Anonymous No.5053088]

Maybe now she'll realize she wasted her life with nonsensical shit

[Steki !!YZ75WBx2rxh No.5053113]

>>5052854
>gender theorist

This needs to stop.
It's like when people get bored and instead of smoking weed they do something like this, find a following and get money.

It's basically a cult.

[Anonymous No.5053122]

patronsaintoftumblr.jpg

[Anonymous No.5053156]

>>5053082
>man only cares about her appearance because the patriarchy. Her getting surgery to modify her body is a statement that her body wasn't acceptable to her, which is either an insult to people with moles, or interna

Butler is relevant neither for deconstruction nor for hermeneutics, though.

[Anonymous No.5053335]

>>5052881
Oh, the mole thing? Who gives a shit.

>>5053009
The "she's part-Jewish so therefore evil/money-grubbing" meme doesn't work in this case though, because she's been a vocal critic of Israeli politics for decades.

[Anonymous No.5053523]

>>5052861
WTF is a "terf"?

[Anonymous No.5053549]

>>5053113
Can someone please tell me what "gender theory"/"queer theory" can offer that a regular women's studies field cannot? I'm starting to agree that QT is really just a liberalized version of radical feminism.
>>5053122
Pretty much this.

[Anonymous No.5053554]

>>5053046
>Jesus christ, are mole people really that sensitive?

Only to light

[Anonymous No.5053573]

>>5053554
Check your mole privilege shitlord.

[Anonymous No.5053588]

>>5053523
trans exclusionary rad fem

[Anonymous No.5053604]

>>5053549
Feminists lost the moment women's studies were invented, for the very implication of its existence is that there is no reason to study men. In other words it assumes that women are the logical problematic object which needs to be studied.

[Anonymous No.5053612]

>>5053573
wot the fok did ye just say 2 me m8? i dropped out of newcastle primary skool im the sickest bloke ull ever meet & ive nicked ova 300 chocolate globbernaughts frum tha corner shop. im trained in street fitin' & im the strongest foker in tha entire newcastle gym. yer nothin to me but a cheeky lil bellend w/ a fit mum & fakebling. ill waste u and smash a fokin bottle oer yer head bruv, i swer 2 christ. ya think u can fokin run ya gabber at me whilst sittin on yer arse behind a lil screen? think again wanka. im callin me homeboys rite now preparin for a proper scrap. A roomble thatll make ur nan sore jus hearin about it. yer a waste bruv. me crew be all over tha place & ill beat ya to a proper fokin pulp with me fists wanka. if i aint satisfied w/ that ill borrow me m8s cricket paddle & see if that gets u the fok out o' newcastle ya daft kunt. if ye had seen this bloody fokin mess commin ye might a' kept ya gabber from runnin. but it seems yea stupid lil twat, innit? ima ****e fury & ull drown in it m8. ur ina proper mess knob.

[Anonymous No.5053618]

>>5052854
Feminism.

[Anonymous No.5053619]

>>5053604
Gender studies is the neutering of Feminism by capitalist process. Gender studies focuses the discourse on highly abstract minority issues instead of issues facing half the population historically oppressed. The people who are doing real good in the world now are feminist journalists and sociologists.

[Anonymous No.5053621]

>>5053573
Are you saying it's a privilege to be susceptible to cancer or to live underground and be nearly blind?

[Anonymous No.5053640]

>>5053619
>half the population historically oppressed.

it's a lot more than half

[Anonymous No.5053660]

>this thread

It's the patriarchys fault, powered by Hollywood.

Here, check this proof:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rc5G04nJecI&feature=kp

[Anonymous No.5053704]

>>5053640
I meant to say half the population, historically oppressed.

It's part of the pressure under capitalism to be completely interchangeable cogs in the system of production and consumption. Capitalism doesn't pressure us to have permanent social relations, or even identities, because then market can't move us around or pull us into the labor force or entice us to become new thing X so we consume.
Wouldn't it be great for the market if fashion could roll out gender number 5 for the new season, and you get 6 expensive surgeries, and a whole new wardrobe?

In the short term, it disrupts people's class and feminist consciousness by focusing them on microminorities that are socially non-problems. Just small community or personal problems. The real social problem is forcing half the population to have ham-strung self-determination within a system which should give us long-term support, and the actual problems within the system itself, like shit healthcare.

[Anonymous No.5053708]

>>5053619
you're dumb. gender studies is the reifying of feminism into an actual theoretical framework that isn't simplistic muh patriarchy garbage.

[Anonymous No.5053741]

>>5053619
> the discourse
It is wrong, immoral and even a paradox to use personal freedom in order to try and solve the problems that are the result of the institutions which sustain personal freedom. In other words there might be a sociologist somewhere doing something that helps someone, but anything else is a stretch.

[Anonymous No.5053771]

>>5053335
Yeah but she's also a raging SJW and by being "critical" of Israel the yids have control of both sides of the issue. I certainly doubt her concerns involve american tax dollars supporting an authoritarian regime, the NSA sharing citizen data with them and their refusal to sign the NNP.

[Anonymous No.5053786]

>>5053335
That's not the meme. The meme is feminists are mostly Jews. Which is true. Feminists and Jews have both noted this. Not a secret. Not a conspiracy. It's just true.

[Anonymous No.5053802]

>>5053031
The stupidity on this post was genuinely mindblowing

[Anonymous No.5053804]

>>5053786
how come jews are god-tier lefitst philosophers? they completely dominate philosophy.

[Anonymous No.5053807]

>>5053804
Degeneracy and collectivism come naturally to them.

[Anonymous No.5053808]

>>5052887

That's some quality tumblr satire.

[Anonymous No.5053812]

>>5053804
obvious answer: lots of brains, dedication and a history of persecution
answer you'll be given: something something cultural marxism something 9/11 something

[Anonymous No.5053832]

>>5053804
>leftist
>philosophy
They're not philosophers. They're ideologues. And the reason they're jews is because it's in their interest to weaken their host cultures.

[Anonymous No.5053834]

>>5053619
>historically oppressed
Poor women. They had to stay home and pop out babies while their big oppressive husbands had to go and die in some forsaken shithole battlefield or break their backs in the lord's fields ;_;

[Anonymous No.5053898]

>>5052854
Has anyone in this thread actually read Gender Trouble or will we continue to make assumptions and/or shitpost?

[Anonymous No.5054449]

>>5053812
More like the left is all about posing as a victim and hell being paved with good intentions, and jews are masters at the former.
What is/was the URSS/North Korea/every communist dictaorship ever?
>We're the good guys fighting against evil capitalism for the worker/common man/and so on!!
Now zionist jews are defending their "unique, chosen identity" by excluding immigrants from Israel and oppressing the arabs from the territory under israelian rule.
But it's ok because that "minority" (actually oppressing majority in Israel according to current left paradigm) was sighted in other times and other places.
Most jews living in Israel and elsewhere have never been victims of a big scale exclusion...
Another issue with the left, can't be a revolutionary and conservative of the past revolutions at the same time. You can't win the victim game twice in a row.
Obviously if you make a business out of it you have interest in winning that game tho.

[Anonymous No.5054477]

>>5054449
>right wing dictators didn't make high promises
sick implications bro

[Anonymous No.5054502]

>>5053612

This is the best one of these I've seen yet. :]

[Anonymous No.5054527]

>>5054477
Do right-wing dictators usually claim they're protecting the little man?
Obviously both have their boogeymen but aren't right-wing dictatorships more about ideals like order, nationalism, traditionalism, rather than supposedly lifting up/defending the oppressed against the oppressors?
Like the point would be that the lower classes would benefit from more order, tradition and so on, but a strong hierarchy is inherent to the right-wing dictatorship ideology?

Or is it illusory to claim that leftists are hypocritical when they claim their utopia they want to force from above on everyone is better, especially for the oppressed?
I mean, you can't have equality and bureaucracy or other forms of humans hierarchy, right?

[Anonymous No.5054539]

>>5053898
top lel

SRS pls go

[Anonymous No.5054587]

>>5053037

lol'd

Seriously, feminists hurt the aspects of their movement that should be taken seriously when they shit themselves over stupid things like this. Even if it wasn't malignant, which it very well could have been, who the fuck is anyone else to tell someone they can't make minor choices about their own body? For all we know she could have been self-conscious about it. This says nothing about patriarchy. Sexual attraction, norms surrounding attraction, and people being self-conscious would continue to be things that exist even if there were no sexism in the world.

[Anonymous No.5054589]

>>5054527
>aren't right-wing dictatorships more about ideals like order, nationalism, traditionalism
yes but they say that these are beneficial to the everyman.

[Anonymous No.5054617]

>>5054587
lol'in at the idea that any real feminist wouldn't support a woman's right to do whatever she wants with her body

[Anonymous No.5054624]

>>5054617
>real feminist
Would they be true scots too?

[Anonymous No.5054863]

>>5054624
>think's the true scotsman actually exists
enjoy your spooks

[Anonymous No.5054946]

>>5054863
Oh kill yourself you retarded societal tumor

[Anonymous No.5055093]

>>5052854
>"Judith Butler" and "facial" in the same sentence.
lel

[Anonymous No.5056057]

>>5054946
i bet you believe in the form of the good

[Anonymous No.5056818]

>mfw someone claims there are three genders who isn't some kind of sexless robot person or a really weird man/woman posessing breasts, a penis, and a vagina, as well as both masculine and feminine physical and emotional features
So, unless you're a neutered flesh tube incapable of either femininity or masculinity, or one who is somehow two kind of contradictory things, fuck off m8

[Anonymous No.5056825]

so i take it that none of you have actually read any Butler?

[Anonymous No.5057140]

>>5056825
if I disagree with the formulation, premise and validity of her ideas, why would I read them.

[Anonymous No.5057178]

could someone post a ‘before’ picture?

[Anonymous No.5057690]

>>5054589
Well, every politician claims they're doing it for the everyman.
The everyman also includes the rich and the higher-ups.
Leftists usually claim to fight against the demons until they find out that, no, John you are the demons.

[Anonymous No.5057957]

>>5057690
Whereas the others already know it?

[Anonymous No.5057981]

>>5056825
why would you, when there are so many other books available

[Anonymous No.5058356]

>>5052887
>dat pic

[Anonymous No.5058459]

>>5057957
The others aren't hypocritical enough to claim that they're only fighting for the weak.
The left is basically a giant victim-run.

[Anonymous No.5058462]

>>5052854

I bet Harold Bloom hates this bitch.

[Anonymous No.5058517]

>>5058459
>The others aren't hypocritical enough to claim that they're only fighting for the weak
I wonder what political discourse you've been following.

[Anonymous No.5058524]

>>5058517
Well the nazis didn't claim they were fighting for the handicapped, and they didn't act in that way either.
Actions following words.

[Anonymous No.5058548]

>>5054617
>several respected feminist intellectuals

[Anonymous No.5058559]

>>5058548
>respected feminist intellectuals
Lek

[Anonymous No.5058574]

>>5058559

lek indeed.

[Anonymous No.5058850]

>>5053554
five star post

[Anonymous No.5061012]

Judith Butler has opposed my right to turn my ladystick inside out to cure my dysphoria for DECADES. I'm so fucking dysphoric I want to douse my peen in gasoline and light it on fire. Then she turns around and gets surgery to cut that thing off her face??