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5039552 No.5039552 [Reply] [Original]

Do I write out of love to men? No, I write because I want to procure for my thoughts an existence in the world; and, even if I foresaw that these thoughts would deprive you of your rest and your peace, even if I saw the bloodiest wars and the fall of many generations springing up from this seed of thought — I would nevertheless scatter it. Do with it what you will and can, that is your affair and does not trouble me. You will perhaps have only trouble, combat, and death from it, very few will draw joy from it.
- Stirner
ayy lmao
>based Stirner

>> No.5039557
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5039557

>>5039552
Stirner is love, Stirner is life.

>> No.5039561

>>5039557
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_IkZtaJQPg

>> No.5039626

I told Feminister he was an egotist...

>> No.5039629

>>5039626

Feminister is an egotist in the colloquial sense of the world

>everyone else should give a shit about me because i'm a gril lol

>> No.5039631

>>5039626
Why would you argue with Feminister?

>> No.5039645

But he's just acknowledging a well-known fact in an edgy tone. And it's not like he can decide what happens next anyway, it's virtually impossible to predict the long-term effects of a book becoming widely read.

>> No.5039670

>>5039629
Nah, she isn't. She's more just caught up in some notion that assuming self-importance makes for utopia, as if everyone must do so in order to make equilibrium.
>>5039631
Because she's intelligent and not malevolent.

>> No.5039674

>>5039670
>Nah, she isn't. She's more just caught up in some notion that assuming self-importance makes for utopia, as if everyone must do so in order to make equilibrium
And so she goes on about slave and master morality, and one day we'll all be children.

>> No.5039679

>>5039674
It's pretty, to be honest, but Stirner was a solid tool.

>> No.5039764

>>5039679
Stirner was a pretty cool guy

>> No.5039772

>>5039764
I dunno, anon. He sounds like he just insisted upon delusion to me.

>> No.5039778

Of course, it takes all sorts to make a world, as my grandmother often says.

>> No.5039779

>>5039626
>egotist
*egoist

>> No.5039789

>>5039778
Sometimes I wonder if this isn't sheer profundity from her Christian point of view. I mean, she doesn't seem to believe in hell, but some necessity of evil.

>> No.5039794

>>5039778
Start with the grandmas

>> No.5039795

>>5039779
Oh shut up.

>> No.5039799

>>5039795
Stop being a pleb

>> No.5039801

>>5039789
You know, it's as if we're the consciousness of god or something, she seems to say. And that's interesting too, these scientists adding all of existence up to zero.

>> No.5039805

>>5039799
I'm not a pleb, I'm a highly intelligent individual. And Stirner was blatantly delusional.

>> No.5039811

>>5039772
He's actually one of the few thinkers that does not.

>> No.5039813

>>5039805
You probably are, but when you say egotist you are giving the people who are reading your post a wrong impression. I don't want to spread falsity on Stirner's beautiful philosophy.

>btw I'm listening to this, you should too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mBJIbQHTHY

>> No.5039815

It's like O'Brien in 1984. Stirner must have following for justification, for power.

>> No.5039816

>>5039805
How so? Have you even read him?

>> No.5039822

>>5039811
Incorrect.

>> No.5039825

Threads such as these just foul up the board.

>> No.5039828

>>5039816
I've read enough. He decries meaning and god, and sets himself as the sole purpose of himself. He's O'Brien from 1984.

>> No.5039829

>>5039552
>love to men
stopped reading there
>>>/lgbt/

>> No.5039836

My grandmother would've actually made a topnotch philosopher, I think. She had to stay at home and mind her brothers, though; one of which went on to become a famous philosopher. Would have been funny, lol.

>> No.5039839

>>5039825
I was conscious of my owness when I made this board. This board is mine, because it is my property, I take it with my might, because I as owner make this board I, this board isn't I, but I am it. It is MY property.

>> No.5039844

>>5039828
And that sort of existence is all very well and good -- unassailable; but there's a certainty absurdity to rallying behind it, or even writing of it. It reeks of delusion, basically.

>> No.5039853

>>5039839
No, that can't be right, this board is MY property, and I don't remember ever giving it to anyone.

>> No.5039854

>>5039844
I see where you are coming from. Putting the self or your will above all else is fine, but writing about it the way he did seemed like he was looking for confirmation by the very act of publishing it.

Unless he just wanted to wake some sheep up to cause a good show?

>> No.5039859

>>5039844
It's like, "Haha, God, take this! I see your bible, and raise you my own selfishness!"

>> No.5039867

>>5039853
It's yours?

BANG!

It's mine [:

>> No.5039886

>>5039854
>Unless he just wanted to wake some sheep up to cause a good show?
And still "egotist" seems applicable.

>> No.5039895

>>5039886
How so? If he called for revolution in his name, I can see it.

But calling him an egotist is no different than calling an arsonist, or serial rapist demented, when maybe they just innately enjoy what they do.

Who is to judge what is right and wrong? Only the individual; all claims are permitted.

>> No.5039903

>>5039895
But he did call for revolution in his name; what else are his writings but an affront to convention? If he had cause, then, it would be something different indeed, but he did not. Why did he write again?

>> No.5039906

Feminister puts cause to his words, though.

>> No.5039907

>>5039903
I think he wrote because he enjoyed laying his beliefs out in a categorized fashion. The same way some people like playing music, or writing poems, or painting, or playing sports.

>> No.5039912

>>5039903
It is possible to write without regard to the reception of the work. Literally not caring what people think of it, or hoping they are appalled/shocked.

>> No.5039917

how do you guys create a stirner thread ever hour, pretend his ideas are feasible, and not feel totally dumb?

>> No.5039922

>>5039917
His ideas are feasible. They would most likely cause war, strife, etc. But who cares? People are violent, let there be violence.

>> No.5039924

>>5039907
And all of that is for control, anon. It's his particular brand of control that I take issue with. Think Ayn Rand and the squeamishness of her insistence upon the immorality of altruism, but our Stirner is a cocksure man. But hey, perhaps it does take every sort.

>> No.5039927

>>5039912
It isn't really. Life is eternally a balance between love and power, each propping the other up.

>> No.5039933

>>5039924
I see where you are coming from, but I have a hard time coming to terms with it.

If it weren't for stirner, I wouldn't have validated my selfishness to this extent. Most people do what they want, but the works on involuntary and voluntary egoism clearly lays out what is occurring.

>> No.5039941

>>5039927
So you're telling me, every author was looking for validation, and none threw their ideas out there because "fuck it"

>> No.5039950

my favorite part is when he says he spits in the reader's face

>> No.5039952

>>5039941

need for validation is the catalyst for motivation

>> No.5039963

>>5039952
Yes, I understand that. But validation for others, or for your self are very different things.

Ted kaczynski thoroughly validated himself to himself. I'm almost positive he knew the common man wouldn't understand his motives.

>> No.5039972

If you take him at his word, he does not write for love of man

>> No.5039978
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5039978

Stirner was a terrible person and you people need to stop sucking his dick.
He was an asshole.
That was all he was.
The difference between him and most assholes is that he invented an entire field of philosophy to try and rationalize to everyone why he was an asshole.

>> No.5039979

>>5039963

I agree, another example would be that of the mathematical genius of Grigori Perelman; you can look him up.

It seems like in the case of extraordinary genius, they don´t feel a need to prove themselves to others.

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5039995

>>5039978

>> No.5039997

>>5039822
Stirner's philosophy is not prescriptive

>> No.5040049

>>5039978
What's wrong with being an asshole?

I can't experience other lives, why should I give a single fuck what they feel?

>> No.5040065

>>5040049

That's called being a psychopath, anon.
You should see someone about that.

>> No.5040073

>>5040065
I understand that. My question is WHY is that a bad thing?

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5040074

>>5039978

>> No.5040076

>>5040073

Trying to explain to you why its bad is like trying to explain the color red to someone that's blind.

>> No.5040081

>>5040076
http://youtu.be/ym7x7twSoqc?t=1m38s

>> No.5040082

>>5039552
Wow, what an asshole.

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5040083

>>5040082
Look everyone, look at this faggot.

>> No.5040089

>>5040081

>You have no respect for anyone
>Said the psychopath

Laughingwhores.jpg

>> No.5040095

>>5040089
I didn't post that video. Was some other guy

>> No.5040097

>>5040076
Well, try anyways

>> No.5040099

>>5040097

>Try and explain the color red to someone that's blind
>But anon the blind do not have the neurological capability to even comprehend what color is
>WELL TRY ANYWAYS

>> No.5040100

>>5040049
>I can't experience other lives, why should I give a single fuck what they feel?
The thought that these people are posting on /lit/ right now is horrifying

>> No.5040105

>>5040049
>I can't experience other lives, why should I give a single fuck what they feel?
Then why are you convincing him right now, you drooling retard? Stirnerfags are the worst. Solipsism is not something that can be put into practice.

>> No.5040108

>>5040099
I'm trying to figure out where you get your right and wrong from, and why doing some things is bad and others is good.

Things are just things. Do what you want.

>> No.5040111

>>5040105
I'm pretty sure it can be put into practice, you just may not like it when people step on you but you don't have the backbone to reciprocate it.

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5040116

>>5040049
>I can't experience other lives, why should I give a single fuck what they feel?

>> No.5040117
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5040117

>>5040108

Let me put it in a way that even someone like you can understand.
Psychopaths are a danger to communities because they have no internal compass that prevents them from committing crimes if they think they can get away with it -
Thus it is the duty of said community to defend itself from such people by either locking them up or purging their defective traits from the genepool.
Remove autist from the premises.

>> No.5040120

>>5040108
babbies first nihilism

read nietzsche to cure this post-christian delirium

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5040121

>>5039552
>ayy lmao

>> No.5040123

>>5040083
Typical Striner fan

>> No.5040126

>>5040120
>set boundaries because the world is too scary when taken in full

>> No.5040127

>>5040120
He sounds rather well adjusted. Why can't you answer his question?

>> No.5040129

>>5040117
Alright, seems acceptable.

>> No.5040131

>>5040127

>Reductionism is well-adjusted

No.

>> No.5040134

>>5040126
>Set boundaries lest you bring about the extinction of your entire race

>> No.5040136

>>5040123
Have you even read his major work? if not,

Go, and stay go

>> No.5040143

>>5040134
Haha jewish ogliarchies ensured the extinction of my race a long time ago.

I have no more stake in this world aside from my will and desires.

>> No.5040147

>>5040116
You don't understand that meme

>> No.5040152

>>5039979
Yes, that is the sort of thing I was talking about.

Stirner lived for his ideals, not the mob.

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5040158

>>5040136
>Have you even read his major work?
That would be playing right into his hands. I'm one step ahead.

>> No.5040161

>>5039927
lol

>> No.5040163

>>5040161
Lol indeed

>> No.5040169

>>5040161
Love
Or
Leadership

>> No.5040212

>>5039941
Yes, essentially. There is nothing random about the person, not a single thing.

>> No.5040218

>>5040161
>>5040169
Well, I would omit the "eternally," but as is, the only love we know is by way of power.

>> No.5040270

>>5040218

Though, sometimes, I am given to agreeing with those individualists, that such is the only real existence -- joy contrasted against pain, that we may see more soulfully -- but I think most of the time they are all knee-jerk reaction anyway, little Adams and Eves.

>> No.5040272

>>5040049
>I can't experience other lives

This is your problem. You have no empathy.

>> No.5040290

>>5040272
Explain how that is a problem for me.

>> No.5040294

>>5040270
It's my grandmother's "It takes every sort...," I think -- only lesser in its atheism. I suppose I am thinking of one in particular at this moment.

>> No.5040301

>>5040290
Big brave boy stands up to solipsism! Go shout it from the rooftops, child!

>> No.5040311

>>5040301
Wat

>> No.5040318

>>5040311
No, no . . . the rooftops!

>> No.5040322

>>5040290
you will never fully develop. most of the psychological schools agree on this

>> No.5040325

>>5040318
Yodelll eehhh hoooooou

>> No.5040327

>>5040325
Pussy.

>> No.5040332

>>5040322
>you will never meet my arbitrary criteria for developed, when in reality empathy is the result of domestication of man for man.

Don't worry, I won't pop your balloon of righteousness, it doesn't matter if it is truth or vanity that floats it.

>> No.5040335

>>5039552

It's really pathetic how /lit/ suddenly discovered Stirner.

>> No.5040340

>>5040335
are you new?

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5040345

>>5040327
"Wanna fight?"

>> No.5040344

>>5040335
Suddenly? When was that?

>> No.5040354

>>5040049
THIS
I second this question. I would be glad if someone could explain it for me.

>> No.5040359

>>5040344

I don't know some number of months ago.

Never used to see him here, now every time I'm here there he fucking is.

>> No.5040360

>>5040290
Because you're be a loner incapable of forming relationships and may end up harming someone and getting sent to prison.

>MUH EDGE

>> No.5040361

Sometimes, while standing in line or whatever, I thrill with the thought of violence and power -- that I am most dangerous here, and if I choose to do violence, I will do it to no pain, for their petty order depends that there be no pain repaid, for that is a necessary front that must be kept. Then I look beyond and I see god, that thing which lays over us all, and there is an understanding of that front, and, beyond that, more. Stirner is a fool who says, "No, no, no, no! Power, power, power! Mine!"

>> No.5040367

>>5040359
You're new. You should be ashamed of not having pissed away so much of your life on here.

>> No.5040368

>>5040360
you'll be*

>> No.5040371

>>5040345
I'd win.

>> No.5040381

>>5040367

So you guys just completely stopped mentioning him for a few years now are back at it? Okay.

>> No.5040383

>>5040360
Already a loner

Don't care if I harm others or myself

I'd just kill myself before prison

We're all going to die anyways, doesn't matter how long you lived when you're dead

>> No.5040386

>>5040361
Not that I'm a psychopath or anything, just that I can be very loose with perspective. It's somewhat of an art I've mastered.

>> No.5040391

>>5040383
Just be a good boy and shut up now, anon, lest I send you to hell.

>> No.5040398

>>5040391
Are you trying to coax fedora out of me?

>> No.5040400

>>5040381
If you care to go through the archive you'll see he's been mentioned quite consistently for as long as the archive has existed. His name has been mentioned explicitly in at least 4924 posts since 2010 so it might take you a while.

>> No.5040402

>>5040398
No, anon. It is simply I, Satan.

>> No.5040410

>>5040402
I have no beef with you. Adam was too dumb to take your hint on woman's naivety.

>> No.5040415

>>5040410
Yes, but I *will* fuck you up, anon.

>> No.5040419

>>5040332
I wasn't trying to preach, sorry you understood it that way

>> No.5040428

>>5040415
HOHO! Come and try goat boy

>> No.5040434

>>5040345
who is bottom right

>> No.5040435

>>5040428
Make your jokes, anon. Blowing wind fuels the fires in hell.

>> No.5040440

>>5040434
Heraclitus

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5040450

>>5040435
You're going to fight ME with FIRE?

Try me hoof-dick

>> No.5040583

>>5040450
You think I am insincere about being Satan, anon?

>> No.5040692

>>5040583
Yeah you're a punk ass bitch.

FOOIGHT MEHH

>> No.5040696

>>5040692
go to bed, jesus

>> No.5040709

I think he's compensating with excessive mockery. You'll burn, anon; try me.

>> No.5040828

>>5039629
who's that?

>> No.5040844

>>5040828
A horrible Tripfag on this board

>> No.5040847

>>5040828
an annoying slut who got her claim to fame on /pol/ by posting her tits. now she posts here

>> No.5040854

>>5040100
Moralists pls.

>> No.5040864

Can someone post that picture of Stirner reading "me and my own by me"? Always cracks me up, forgot to save last time.

>> No.5040869

>>5040847
YOOOO She posted tits on pol?!

>> No.5040873

>>5040864
Wish I could friend

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5040904

>>5040864

>> No.5040906

>>5040847
>>5040869
guys pls, I respect feminister and think she is an excellent poster and I harbor no chauvinistic illusions about her but I really feel my cock twitch when i think about seeing her tits

>> No.5040918

>>5040906
Fuck you faggot I hope you die from being a faggot in your faggot life today

>> No.5040925

>>5040904
Yusss

>> No.5040928

>>5040906
I hate her and want to see her saggy whore tits

>> No.5040950

I love her <3

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5041058

>>5040928
>saggy

>> No.5041070

>>5041058
>Implying that is that fucking tranny

If I could torture her dicksucker who says hi to her in every thread, probably you, I would do it. You/they probably are a troll too and I'm feeding it and I don't care because I hate feminister and his retarded attitudes. The only more toxic poster I have seen is Believer in Christ on /x/ last year.

>> No.5041078

>>5041058
Wtf, ur kidding me?

>> No.5041081

I have a fetish for getting blowjobs, it's a complete power thing putting my dick between teeth. I like that girl's teeth :D

>> No.5041083

>>5041058
That's not me

>> No.5041087

>>5041083
i bet you're fat

>> No.5041093

Fat girls need lovin' too. Just not from me

>> No.5041110

>>5040049

Because it cuts you off to the better part of human feeling.

Retards like yourself act as though you are simply cutting out unnecessary work by giving up on empathy, but human beings come to know themselves through their interactions with and care for others, so enjoy being walking identity crisis for the rest of your life.

>> No.5041128

>>5041083
pls dont back pedal be brave its a nice picture

>> No.5041131

>>5041083
Don't be ashamed, you look pretty cute.

>> No.5041137

>>5041128
Look it up on Chansluts, it's some chick from >>/soc/ named Sof.

>> No.5041155

>>5041137
He's just being a toxic fucking autistic faggot because he knows everyone hates feminister and likes making boards worse. He's even using shit grammar dude, come on.

>> No.5041163

>>5041155
Regardless, thought I'd interject with my search on that image. It's retarded to make assumptions on the internet when you can find an explanation with less than a minute of searching.

>> No.5041182

>>5041137
>chansluts

>> No.5041188

>>5041083
ugly whore

>> No.5041189

>>5041155
Who's "everybody," faggot?

>> No.5041191

>>5041182
Whatever it's called, first result on reverse image search.

>> No.5041194

>>5041083
worthless cumdumpster rape-bait

>> No.5041199

Gr8 thred
Feminister pwns tho

>> No.5041202

>>5041189
I didn't use that word and it obviously includes you, stop being a retarded shithead and trying to ruin boards. You do not "trick" anyone. You're just fucking stupid.

>> No.5041206

>>5041199
Feminister, r u prettier r less pretty than that girl?

>> No.5041211

>>5041202
Incorrect. And you're a bitchboi preaching oneness of the boys against the dreaded female. How does it feel being ugly, anon? I'm curious.

>> No.5041212

>>5041199
>>5041206
Oh man I sure am mad and trolled now, you aren't just proving that you're a worthless autistic piece of garbage for the sake of it at all.

>> No.5041214

fucking stirner is so shit

>> No.5041217

>>5041211
xDDDDD
>Implying it is female
>This awful, by-the-book "bait"

Non-ironically go back to /pol/. Thank god my hangover is clearing up, now I can just actually go read.

>> No.5041221

>>5041212
Wow, aren't you feeling insecure... That had nothing to do with you, /b/ro. Come on dude, lol.

>> No.5041226

>>5041217
You do realise you're raving in denial of a poster on 4chan, right?

>> No.5041235

Astounding, lol. Dude literally explodes because a girl gets attention.

>> No.5041256

>>5041083
filthy cockeater

>> No.5041260

>>5041235
woman-worshipping cunt licker

>> No.5041330

>>5041260
Hey,

>> No.5041898

Holy shit so many spooked people in this thread

>> No.5041901

>>5041898
Spooks are a spook. Stirner is a spook.

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>>5041901

>> No.5041978

>>5041901

>>5041909

, Stirner was unable to gain financial security during this time. He changed residences frequently in order to avoid his creditors. Stirner was unable to avoid being imprisoned for his debts in both 1853 and 1854. Two years later, Max Stirner died of an infection from an insect sting.

>> No.5042126

>>5041978
ok

>> No.5042133

>>5039552
What a psychopathic, self-obsessed twat. This is literally what atheism makes acceptable.

>> No.5042164

>>5042133
>implying you can't follow both Jesus and Stirner

>> No.5042241

>>5042133
>Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword.

lel

You might be right about plenty of atheists, who specifically denounce religion to be assholes. But then there's people who join up to do the same.

For a more compassionate atheism try Feuerbach, Stirner's predecessor.

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>>5042164
>follow
>being this spooked

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>>5042359

>> No.5042384

>>5042241
Not really atheism. Dyereadstirner?

>> No.5042416

>>5042359
Following in a sense that serves yourself