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Anonymous Fri Mar 21 19:44:55 2014 No.4686779 [DELETED]

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It's been a few months. I think it's time for a good old-fashioned Sam Harris thread!

>thoughts?
>ideas?
>opinions?

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 21 19:46:55 2014 No.4686787 File: 81 KB, 640x480, Sam_Harris_Core_Beliefs.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 21 19:46:55 2014 No.4686786 i agree with him on everything

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 21 19:49:55 2014 No.4686799 File: 387 KB, 640x360, sam.harris.ted2010.cnn.640x360.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 21 19:49:55 2014 No.4686795 File: 26 KB, 480x309, sam-harris-tolerance.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 21 19:50:55 2014 No.4686801 I was extremely surprised to find someone as mainstream as him openly arguing that free will doesn't exist. Gives me hope.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 21 19:50:55 2014 No.4686802 >>4686779 https://twitter com/SamHarrisOrg/status/445929262894551041 https://www.youtube com/watch?v=UuuTOpZxwRk i think we can leave it at that

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 21 19:51:55 2014 No.4686805 >>4686799 The fuck?

Anonymous Fri Mar 21 19:56:55 2014 No.4686820

Why do you people get so freaked out about him?

Nothing he says is particularly original, he doesn't do much to defend his metaphysical and ethical views against age-old objections. He just says things in contentious ways, none of his arguments are particularly groundbreaking. He just mashes a bunch of diffrent views on some issues into one big world view which many people happen to disagree with.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 21 19:58:55 2014 No.4686827 File: 27 KB, 460x276, Sam-Harris-008.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4686820 How can you hate this face?

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 21 20:01:55 2014 No.4686842 File: 228 KB, 500x333, 1395431292629.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Man this thread

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 21 20:11:55 2014 No.4686871 >>4686842 that monkey is my favorite thing to happen ever

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 21 20:19:55 2014 No.4686890 >>4686827 I wish I had such an amiable face. But no. My facial proportions have to be fucked up and no one likes me because of it

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 21 20:20:55 2014 No.4686891 >>4686820 is ought is ought is ought is ought

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 21 20:24:55 2014 No.4686895 File: 59 KB, 500x405, tumblr_982939229.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4686871 >>4686842 XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 22 00:01:51 2014 No.4687466 >>4686802 >https://www.youtube com/watch?v=UuuTOpZxwRk Why do these knobs seem to think philosophy is not empirical?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 22 00:02:51 2014 No.4687470 >>4686805 fake quote

Anonymous Sat Mar 22 00:05:52 2014 No.4687476
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not a fan of his political pro-war, bomb iran, islam+christianity are evil bullshit.

He never takes his magnifying glass and examines jews/judaism/israel. imo

and the way he talks is annoying

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 22 00:09:51 2014 No.4687492 >>4686895 friendly reminder that reporting these posts is the only way to make them go away

Anonymous Sat Mar 22 00:12:51 2014 No.4687504

>>4687466
His objection isn't that Harris' claims are empirical. Actually the opposite. Harris' move it to say "well being of humans is moral", which isn't an empirical claim. As far as anyone can tell it's a dogmatic one, or an appeal to popularity. If you can find an empirical basis for morality philosophers would happily accept it, but saying "we all think human suffering is bad" doesn't pass muster because it's dependent on popular opinion.

Anonymous Sat Mar 22 00:22:51 2014 No.4687528

>>4686779
His thought his hand-me-down neoliberal garbage disguised as a great revelation because "muh atheism." He also looks like Chunk from the Goonies. Note that that last part is not an argument against him, merely an observation meant as a childish ridicule.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 22 00:23:51 2014 No.4687533 Sam Harris is a joke of the philosophy world and the science world.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 22 00:25:51 2014 No.4687538 >>4687528 He's actually pretty far right by the standards of the community he exists in.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 22 00:28:51 2014 No.4687550 >>4686779 >thoughts? >ideas? >opinions? sam only has one of those things

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 22 00:29:51 2014 No.4687552 >>4687538 Neoliberal, not American social liberal.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 22 00:35:50 2014 No.4687568 File: 650 KB, 854x798, 1395082816887.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4687552 Whoops

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 22 00:35:50 2014 No.4687570 >>4687533 Why is that

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 22 00:57:50 2014 No.4687646 >>4686787 >>4686795 >>4686799 >POP SCIENTIST MODE ACTIVATED BEEP BOOP. >ENGAGING WITTICISM QUOTE GENERATOR VVRRRRMMMM VRRRRMMMM

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 22 01:07:50 2014 No.4687679 >>4686820 he secularizes Buddhism like some sort of hippie

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 22 01:17:12 2014 No.4687712 >>4686787 I know one. Ours.

Anonymous Sat Mar 22 01:56:08 2014 No.4687824

>>4686801
I feel the same way. It becomes much easier to empathize with people once you realize the illusoriness of free will. It seems to me those who hate him haven't really read anything by him. Rather, they've seen a few quotes online taken out of context and/or are uncomfortable that he's denouncing religion so directly.

As >>4686820 said, he never really says anything original, but he is using his popularity to bring important ideas to the mainstream, and for that I respect him.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 22 02:01:09 2014 No.4687836 >>4687824 I dislike him because he's so revoltingly neoliberal, which, along with laissez-faire capitalism, is my least favorite intellectual allegiance. If he's going to be an atheist, he could at least do me the favor of being a pacifist too.

Anonymous Sat Mar 22 02:13:08 2014 No.4687856

I think Sam Harris is cool as an individual, but outside that this whole pop philosophy movement of 'New Atheism' is about as trivial as the side it opposes. Just sheep who'll listen to anything standing on a stage, talking vigorously about some foreign evil. 'War on Religion' is about as fucking indefinable and full of shit as 'War on Terror'.

But as I said he's cool for other stuff, as is Daniel Dennett. When they're not going on about something as fucking pointless as whether or not some insignificant human brain accepts the cognitive disposition of 'creator'.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 22 05:00:29 2014 No.4688081 Hitchens > Dawkins > Dennett > Harris

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 22 05:25:29 2014 No.4688130 >>4688081 Dennett is shallow. Has he ever had a thought that's neither wrong nor trivial?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 22 05:38:29 2014 No.4688157 I am so sick of seeing this arrogant, naive little cunt's face on this board. He looks like a fucking reptile, and he has the argumentative acumen and nuance of a third grader. Fuck Sam Harris.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 22 05:41:13 2014 No.4688162 >>4688130 Harris is shallow. Has he ever had a thought that's neither wrong nor trivial?

Anonymous Sat Mar 22 05:48:12 2014 No.4688176

>>4687824

> It becomes much easier to empathize with people once you realize the illusoriness of free will.

It can't become easier for you if hard determinism is true, because it was already slated for you to be conditioned to feel that way since the beginning of fucking time. Fuckers.

It's just cognitive dissonance all the way down.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 22 08:53:15 2014 No.4688423 >>4688162 Harris doesn't hold a PhD and professorship in philosophy thouhg

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 22 09:08:50 2014 No.4688447 >>4687504 Hasn't Stefan Molyneux found an empirical basis for morality?

Anonymous Sat Mar 22 09:13:47 2014 No.4688457

>>4688176
Not the guy but even though I think determinism is true I believe it doesn't matter, because if everybody was acting like it was true we would end up living like we do now. If I can't do anything about my own actions this would justify my actions and judgments against those who can't do anything about theirs, and vice versa. I'd say free will should be considered a work hypothesis.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 22 20:18:32 2014 No.4690179 Bumping this amazing thread

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 22 20:20:33 2014 No.4690187 >>4688447 Yeah, and it can be summed up with the following >muh keeds

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 23 05:15:27 2014 No.4691384 File: 39 KB, 500x257, sam_harris.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4687528 >neoliberal Where do you foaming at the mouth idiots get this stuff? Too fucking rich. http://www.samharris.org/blog/item/how-rich-is-too-rich/

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