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Are novelists the pinnacle of human intelligence?

>> No.4392430

Nope.

>> No.4392438

There is no single pinnacle of human intelligence. You may as well ask if runners are the pinnacle of human athleticism, or if redheads are the pinnacle of human beauty.

>> No.4392451

novels aren't even the pinnacle of literature.

>> No.4392448

God no

>> No.4392601

>>4392429
Mathematicians are the pinnacle of human intelligence.

>> No.4392616

I think a better question would ask about the pinnacle of human creativity, since it has to do with the wit of absorbing of one's environment. Human intelligence will be left to a labroom in the future.

>> No.4392624

>>4392616
well said

>> No.4392629

>>4392616
Mathematicians are also the pinnacle of human creativity.

>> No.4392630

>>4392601
I agree, aside from a few select authors, nothing is produced from writing aside from words. The industrialist and engineer can at least improve improve the quality of life with their toils

>> No.4392639

>>4392616

Are you implying that scientific discovery doesn't require creativity?

>> No.4392638

>>4392601
You spelled physicist wrong

>> No.4392643

>>4392630
I said mathematicians. Engineers and industrialists would be on the same intelligence and creativity level as a novelist.

>> No.4392650

>>4392643

Mathematics is just a language. Mathematicians do beautiful things with language and so do novelists. One is not more "intelligent" than another.

>> No.4392651

Is this thread the pinnacle of butt cancer?

>> No.4392652

>>4392638
Yeah, no. Physics is just applied mathematics. I consider myself decent at math, but you have to be on some completely other level of intelligence to want a career in pure mathematics.

>> No.4392655

>>4392643
I know, i intentionally put you down after leading you on by stating you don't produce anything of worth. Maybe if you were on the same level as a novelist you could see that.

>> No.4392657

>>4392638
I'm in grad school for cosmology right now and I got my bachelors in math and physics. I originally wanted to be a mathematician but advanced level mathematics takes a level of creativity that was beyond my comprehension.

>> No.4392662

>>4392652
it must be very easy for mathematicians to create great works of literature or music then, if they are on a completely other level of intelligence

>> No.4392664

>>4392652
Mathematics is just applied logic. Logicians must be smarter than mathematicians.

>> No.4392670

>>4392655
top kek, the autist that occupy the math field can't comprehend such sick burns

>> No.4392673

>>4392664

Logic is just applied desire for doughy men with no physically attractive features to nonetheless convince women they are breeding material and to choose them instead of musclebound alphas. Guys who believe in oatz n squatz must be smarter than logicians.

>> No.4392675

>>4392629
Fair enough.
>>4392639
No, but the answer might still be adjusted.

>> No.4392676

>>4392673
All you people who believe that the highest purpose of human affairs is to fuck a bunch should be chased out of all civilized places with whips and pitchforks and torches and burning brands.

>> No.4392681

>>4392673
Horses must be smarter than /fit/.

Clever Hans must have been the smartest creature ever born of this Earth.

>> No.4392683

>>4392676

Why, so you don't have to worry about competing anymore?

lel so beta

>> No.4392689

>>4392639
>>4392675
Oh, I understand what you're saying now. No, I mean the pinnacle of human intelligence will be determined in a labroom, by scientists who can create that pinnacle in genetics.

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>>4392676
oh, what is the highest purpose of human affairs? Lay about and play with numbers?

>> No.4392705

>>4392662
What? That's not at all how intelligence works. Intelligence != creativity. In addition to that, there's an uncountable number of different types of both intelligence and logic. Some people are mechanically intelligent and do well with engineering, while others are theoretically intelligent, and work well in mathematics, etc. Same goes with creativity.

>> No.4392711

>>4392705

Truly great minds possess many different kinds of intelligence. The greatest engineers had a keen understanding of theory. The greatest theoretical scientists could understand praxis and design experiments.

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4392715

>2013 CE
>not subscribing to the theory of multiple intelligences

>> No.4392723

>>4392711
Not always, Alexander Grothendiek is probably the greatest mathematician of the 20th century, but didn't even know what a meter was or any units of measurement for that matter; his arithmetic was also horrendously poor.

>> No.4392725

Let's break this down.

a novelist needs logical intelligence (plot structure/making sure everything fits) existential Intelligence (for the deeper meaning/themes surrounding their work) Interpersonal Intelligence (to create believable character interactions and authentic characters) Linguistic Intelligence (obvious) Intra-personal Intelligence (need to be able to look into themselves to convey their feelings and create relatable characters) and Spatial Intelligence (for descriptive prose).

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>>4392715
>2013 AD
>Believing made up feel good "multiple intelligences" so trayvon feels good about flunking his classes because he is "mechanical intelligent"

>> No.4392732

>>4392725

And all to make up for their lack of pussy intelligence.

>> No.4392771

>>4392704

There is no 'higher' purpose in life. It's just as stupid to assume that pussy is the true meaning of life as assuming scientific knowledge to be one. People should just shut up and live their lives.

inb4 'leftist-Marxist-feminist-gendermoralrelativist'

>> No.4392778

>>4392771
>claims life is without purpose
>immediately asserts shitty ubermensch theories by some hack are the only thing people should do
Its like your the man himself

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>>4392630

> nothing is produced from writing aside from words.

Spoken like a true engineering autist. Whats produce is IDEAS. That's what makes a novel powerful and a novelist intelligence depending on the power of those ideas.

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>>4392730
>2013
>believing in anything

>> No.4393180

you might be able to argue for the pinnacle of human empathy actually

i doubt that it would hold up next to people who give their life to their work but one could probably make a case for it

>> No.4393203

I shoved my pinnacle in you're mom.

>> No.4393208

>>4393203
*your

>> No.4393212

>>4393156
>ideas
>produced
get the fuck out

>> No.4393288

>>4393156
Karl marx might of made communism, but your average dip shit novelist just makes nice stories with old ideas.

>> No.4393316

>>4393288
>might of

Stopped reading after that.

>> No.4393322

>>4393316
>Doesn't know about engels
>Doesn't know about early pioneers of socialism before him
full. retard.

>> No.4393326

>>4393322
...

He said that because you said "might of" instead of "might have".

>> No.4393347

>>4393326
fuck ur grammatical prescriptions

>> No.4393351

>>4393322
>>4393347
holy shit and this anon even be like
>full. retard.
the gall