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so I just read this interview and Tao Lin actually seems like a pretty intelligent and cool dude

http://therumpus.net/2009/09/the-surface-of-things-the-rumpus-interview-with-tao-lin/

is Tao actually a good writer?

>> No.4216152

he's compelling. too early to tell if he's good.

>> No.4216162

>>4216140
>is Tao actually a good writer?

Actually, no.

>> No.4216163

>is Tao actually a good writer?

Tao wouldn't approve of this question I don't think

we know he is a prolific and hard working writer, while the tone and style of his writing might give off a different impression, so that's an interesting

>> No.4216168

I see him the same as I see Bret Easton Ellis; okay but way overblown.

I'm waiting for this generation's DFW/Gaddis/Pynchon to blow him out of the water and secretly hoping it'll be me.

>> No.4216175

>>4216163
....an interesting what?

>> No.4216184

>>4216175
thing

>> No.4216207

>>4216168

Lin seems to have a bit more philosophical depth and rigor than BEE

I also don't see what you mean by "this generation's DFW/Gaddis/Pynchon"

>> No.4216257

Go to bed, Tao
Regardless of the fact that it is 3:30pm for you
Just go to bed

>> No.4216287

>>4216257
Paul goes to bed at like 4 in the fucking morning, hes never in bed this early. 3:30 places him exactly here.

>> No.4216400

>>4216168
Those three's works are similar, but generationally, it doesn't make sense to group them together. Gaddis didn't do shit for his generation, Pynchon did though. Wallace, well, I don't think anyone cares much for Wallace.

As for Tao Lin, Taipei is very good, the prose and the people.

>> No.4216428

>>4216400
>Wallace, well, I don't think anyone cares much for Wallace.

rolling my fucking eyes

>> No.4216462

stop giving tao "carles" lin attention

>> No.4216581
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>>4216428

no discernible talent

>> No.4216598

>>4216428
Wallace didn't really fit anywhere, did he? Panned by "serious" academics like Bloom (>>4216581), not too big in colleges either. The only ones who really love him are reviewers, but reviewers fucking suck. Not even c/lit/orises like him much anymore.

When Gravity's Rainbow was released, it was called "the Pynchon hysteria" (by Gaddis, aptly) because of how much attention it was getting and all the college students reading it.

Gaddis, reviewers didn't like him and college students didn't know him, for his generation at least. Nowadays he's the token obscure author used by academics/reviewers/authors.

>> No.4216613

>>4216598
>The only ones who really love him are reviewers,

Don't kid yourself, the only ones who like DFW are pampered, white suburbanite males who think they'll write about their overly-long forays into academia and become literary celebrities for it.

I've never met anyone who liked DFW who didn't also match this exact description.

>> No.4216618

>>4216613
Reviewers seemed to like him when he came out...

>> No.4217016

>>4216613
Guess what? I fit that exact description and I liked IJ. I'm gonna read his other books, and I'm probably gonna like them too. I identified with Hal and thought the way the book ended was clever.

>> No.4217923

Richard Yates is a pretty enjoyable book in a strange dreamlike way. I remember once I said here about it "this is like online erotica without any of the erotica" and he screenshot it and put it on his blog.

>> No.4218195

>>4216613
I fucking love DFW mainly for his essays and while I wouldn't mind a foray into academia I'll probably never write any fiction. May never write anything, so don't assume DFW is only for inspiring imitators.
>>4217016
Read his fucking essays. I wish he were still alive, I would disagree with him in arguments just to watch him fill my brain with fuck.

>> No.4218219

>>4216613
>white
Irrelevant

>suburbanites
Irrelavant

>they'll write about their overly-long forays into academia
"Write what you know" is a cliche for a reason you know

>> No.4218270

>>4216140
>The main reason might be because in my earlier writing I expressed, to some degree, a consistent philosophy (characterized by wanting to reduce abstract suffering by learning to accept undesirable situations; by learning to view life as a book already written rather than a book to be written, so as to better experience each moment’s pleasures and to experience despair less intensely by being detached from it to some degree, as one can read about “despair” without “feeling” it; and by learning to view things from more perspectives, or “every” perspective, ideally from the perspective of the universe, a perspective which perceives “no depth” or “no consciousness”) and SFAA could be said to be the actualization, in terms of prose style, of that philosophy.

Never seen Tao go this hard in an interview. Thanks for the link, OP.