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4049364 No.4049364 [Reply] [Original]

So they're all disillusioned and lead unfulfilled lives.

Did that really need 250 pages?

>> No.4049365

b-b-but muh shit prose. muh iceberg theory. muh masculinity

>> No.4049366

>>4049365
I never understood the Hemingway-masculinity thing. It's all outward.

>A BLOO BLOO BLOO WAR IS HELL ;____;

>> No.4049372

I abso-fucking-lutely loved that book. I read it last week and it's beautiful.

>> No.4049371
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4049371

So he's a disillusioned irish catholic.

Did that really need 200 pages?

>> No.4049377

That's like saying, so the old man is fishing a marlin, does that really need 127 pages? I pity those who can't read beyond the surface layer.

>> No.4049382

>>4049372
Any specific parts?

I would say that when I read I am sometimes struck with moments of beauty, but while reading this it happened rarely. I can't really recall anything that was awe inspiring.

>> No.4049386

>>4049382
Actually I suppose there's a tragic beauty in the relationship between Jake and Brett, but I guess my problem was that the novel felt rather empty and sometimes dull.

But I'm guessing that was one of its aims? If so, I'd say it's overdone.

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4049392

So he's a disillusioned chucklefuck that believes in magick.

Did that really need 272 pages?

>> No.4049400
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4049400

So there is no God but God, and Muhammad is His messenger.

Did that really need 6,236 verses?

>> No.4049401
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4049401

So he's a plain disillusioned old fart.
Did that really need 2000 pages?

>> No.4049404

that's one of the most common themes in literature, you idiot. not that his prose isn't terrible.

>> No.4049411

>>4049404
What's wrong with his prose?

>> No.4049412

>>4049364
welcome to literature.

Thankfully long-form fiction that takes 200+ pages to express a trite observation about the predicament of life is slowly dying out.

>> No.4049413

>>4049382
I thought the fight was awe inspiring.

>> No.4049414

>>4049401
Is don quixote one book or a series? Surely its not one book with 2000 pages.

>> No.4049415

>>4049411

you seriously have to ask?

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4049416

So much depends on a red wheelbarrow.

Did that really need four stanzas?

>> No.4049419

>>4049415
Is it because he writes like this and doesn't use a lot of similes and description and instead tells a story but not in a way that shovels shallow themes down your throat instead of being creative which a good story should be?

>> No.4049420

>>4049416
Modern poetry fucks with my OCD.

>> No.4049425

>>4049414
it's 2 books

>> No.4049592

shut up faggot
Hemingway is my favorite author, and this is my favorite book.

...talking about his prose...
go read dickinson and suck dick over verbose

fucking faggots

>> No.4049671

>>4049382
“Oh Jake," Brett said, "We could have had such a damned good time together."
Ahead was a mounted policeman in khaki directing traffic. He raised his baton. The car slowed suddenly, pressing Brett against me.
Yes," I said. "Isn't it pretty to think so?”

I mostly liked Jake's dialogues with Brett and how they made me feel sad. Jake's the only guy whom she likes, yet he's a dickless dude and she just won't take him. I also felt really sorry for Cohn, he was a XIX century man living in a post-war world, and he was shunned by other stupid fucks by this fact.

I actually love all of the dialogues in this book, no mather how mundane they were.

>> No.4049898

>>4049671
Well it was about men acting like women and women acting like men. Supposedly it was about the rise of Feminism in the 21st century. Brett wore pants, had short hair, fucks good looking men who she fancies. Jake penis no longer works because of a war incident so he in effect became her pimp because that is the only way he can make love to her. You can go on and on about this stuff.

>> No.4049899

>>4049364
Why do you even read?

Honestly though, you should just ask for the bullet point translation next time. I hear the even but the moral in bold caps at the end.

>> No.4049901
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4049901

>>4049364
So you didn't like the book.

Did you really need to make a thread about it?

>> No.4049906

>>4049901
GREAT NOW I HAVE TO FAP THX

>> No.4049909

>>4049592

>Hemingway is my favorite author

4/10

decent troll but you played up the retard angle too much, tone it down in the future

>> No.4049932
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4049932

>bitching about the length of a book you can read in one sitting

>> No.4049940

>>4049377
no but srsly Old Man and the Sea is awful

>> No.4049949

>>4049401
im sure its not 2000

>> No.4049965

>>4049901
is it just me or is she prettier with cum on her face?

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4049972

>>4049364
So dude gets revenge after he gets framed and NTR'd by his buddies

Did that really 1500 pages?

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4051627

So the baby's dead.
Did that really need six words?

>> No.4051684

>>4051627
Fuck you, I got this is one word:

"Babydead."

>> No.4051690

>>4051684
It's like Beckett and Joyce all at once.

>You look down, what's wrong?
>Babydead.

>> No.4051766

>>4049901
>>4049906
>>4049965
okay I have a chubby from my curiosity
who is she?

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4052763

So, Homer Simpson goes for a walk... did that really need 256 000 words?

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4052799

This thread is "The Five Minute Iliad" done in a really sour, humorless curmudgeonly way.

>>4052763
"June 16 came and went in Dublin." is Nagan's complete retelling of "Ulysses".

>> No.4052818

>>4051690
Oh God, that's hilarious.

>> No.4052820

>>4049371
Is this book really only 200 pages? I read it so many years ago. I seriously thought it was longer (500 or so pages).

I should re-read it, especially if it's shorter than I remember.

>> No.4052822

>>4051684
How about "stillborn."

>> No.4052832

>>4052822

Too cliche.

Fucking plebs, man.

>> No.4052836

>the sun also rises
loved that book. The fishing chapters in the mountains were fucking beautiful. Dat bond between war veterans.

>not cringing after realizing Jake got his dick blown off in the war

>> No.4052926

>>4052836
>realizing Jake got his dick blown off in the war
I never realized that until I read criticism of the book afterwards. I don't know how I missed such an important detail.

>> No.4052945

>>4049972
It still shocks me to this day that I read the best revenge NTR story of all time and I was too young to even appreciate it. I hope Mercedes kills herself.

>> No.4052985

>>4052836
>dick blown off
I always figured he'd just lost his nuts for somne reason, like he was just unable to get a hardon. Maybe that was projecting...

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4053015

>>4052985
>maybe I was just projecting

>> No.4053364

Every time I read Himmengrway I think "did he need that long to say that much?"

The answer is yes. Part of his writing style is the prolongation of it. Face it: He's the Coppola of writing: Overrated, but it is necessary to prolong the work so the audience can absorb as much of the goodness as possible.

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4053939

So the waves broke on the shore.

Did that really need 200 pages?

>> No.4053969

>>4049371
For dat prose uh yeah m8

>> No.4053973

>>4051690

don't stop posting

>> No.4053999

>>4049940
Why's that?

>> No.4054000

I don't understand why Hemingway and his bros felt so unfulfilled. I would kill to live like that: barely working, drinking and dining at the finest restaurants, traveling the world in a leisurely manner...

>> No.4054004

>>4054000
The only reason you'd kill to live like that is because you've never lived like that. It's just like everyone wanting to be immortal, but not realizing that that in and of itself would be a nasty hell to endure.

It's the difference between a vacationer and a resident. A fat tourist taking snapshots and blowing money thinks they've found paradise. A resident knows paradise is elsewhere.

>> No.4054006

>>4054000
Suddenly Last Summer brah

>> No.4054012

>>4054004
have you ever had to work for a living, fuck that. I'd gladly take hemingways lifestyle. je was the original alpha

>> No.4054026

>>4054012
>have you ever had to work for a living

Yes, I've worked for over 15 years. I've also lived without working in a lifestyle not too different from Hemingway's.

Trust me, it's not what you think it is.

>> No.4054037

>>4054000
From Wikipedia

The garage owner told her that while young men were easy to train, it was those in their mid-twenties to thirties, the men who had been through World War I, whom he considered a "lost generation" — une génération perdue.[3]

The 1926 publication of Ernest Hemingway's The Sun Also Rises popularized the term, as Hemingway used it as an epigraph. The novel serves to epitomize the post-war expatriate generation.[4]:302 However, Hemingway himself later wrote to his editor Max Perkins that the "point of the book" was not so much about a generation being lost, but that "the earth abideth forever"; he believed the characters in The Sun Also Rises may have been "battered" but were not lost.[5]:82

>> No.4054723

>>4049364
Ask yourself this OP,
Do you really need to live for 80 years?
Incoming wisdom, hit the deck:
...
"I have made this letter long because I lack the time to make it short." - Blaise Pascal, mathematician and physicist
...
"The skill of writing is to create a context in which other people can think." - Edwin Schlossberg, exhibit designer
...
"We are all apprentices in a craft where no-one ever becomes a master." - Ernest Hemingway

>> No.4054724

You could summarize most books into a single sentence via it's themes.

That doesn't mean it's not worth reading.

>> No.4054752

>>4052836
It's a bit of thematic irony; the traditional view was that boys went to war and became men, but Jake loses his manhood in war.