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Hey /lit/, I've noticed a troubling number of people who like to hate on people who don't believe that there is intrinsic value in the universe. Why is that?

I have a theory, I think they are all afraid that they are pointless, useless, and small, and dont want to be pointless, useless, or small.

>> No.3911296

>Using arbitrary value systems to put down people for believing in arbitrary value systems

>> No.3911298

You made the transition from crappy post tripfag to CRAPPY GIMMICK THREAD SENSATION TRIPFAG within about four hours there. Are you sure you're ready for the leap?

>> No.3911300

>>3911296

>not realizing that humans created the word arbitrary and all of its intentions and meanings

>> No.3911303

>>3911298

>I want my life to have a point beyond my reason

>This guy makes me feel bad.

>I don't like to feel bad.

I bet you believe in a God.

>> No.3911306

>>>/b/

>> No.3911312

If there was an intrinsic value of the universe, surely it wouldn't exclude people to the extent that they couldn't see an intrinsic value in the universe. Surely it couldn't be that mean, especially to Anon.

>> No.3911316

>>3911300
>>>/b/

>> No.3911336

>thinking existence is a spontaneous accident

how can i hold all this entry level

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3911344

Being pointless, useless and small isn't mutually exclusive with the universe having value. My valuation of the world is what makes me feel as such.
You might want to ask why people find human life intrinsically valuable but all the answers regarding that have been exhausted 100 years ago or so; the problem now is how to integrate this into a world where people act as though there is value.
Or something.
this thread hasn't been related to literature but you should look up speculative realism maybe

>> No.3911348

>>3911336

how can I hold all this wishfu thinking?

>inb4 how can I hold all this edgy

>> No.3911350

>>3911294

Because they're intellectual intolerant summerfags who can't deal with people having a different worldview than them. Ignore them and they'll go away and bother someone else

>> No.3911357

>>3911344

I think that you're the only person who has actually argued a real point with me on this topic.

I was under the impression that this board discussed philosophy, too. There are a lot of phil threads.

Also, I think that the pointlessness, uselessness, and smallness of the individual has everything to do with the universe/life/whatever having intrinsic value or not. Actually, scratch that, there is a lot about the universe that we have no way of proving either way, but I am under the firm impression that human beings try to project some sort of value upon everything in order to feel better about themselves.

>> No.3911365

>>3911350

What happens when these summerfags graduate high school and have too much time on their hands?

>> No.3911368

>>3911365

They become regulars

>> No.3911371

>>3911294


wherefore shall value be 'intrinsic'? we do not end at our skin, after all.

>> No.3911373

>>3911371

Actually, we do.

>> No.3911378

>>3911371

prove it

>>3911373

yeah that

>> No.3911379

>>3911365
I'm not sure, what do you do?

>> No.3911386

>>3911357
>baby's first psychoanalysis wrapped in a non-argumentive twaddle!

delete your cancerous trip and get the fuck out you secular leeching little faggot

>> No.3911388

>>3911379
>269 posts and 22 image replies omitted. Click here to view.

Threads like this are either i) fruitless ii) troll heaven.

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3911390

>>3911357
Well, I think people like to think that recognizing beauty is a reflexive process, that the beauty of the world presents itself to us. "It isn't necessary that you leave home. Sit at your desk and listen. Don't even listen, just wait. Don't wait, be still and alone. The whole world will offer itself to you to be unmasked, it can do no other, it will writhe before you in ecstasy." But even when we strip ourselves of everything to view the world naked, we're the only ones who can writhe in ecstasy--or we writhe in ecstasy as the world, which you might see as projecting. It depends on how much you hold in the world or how much the world holds in you maybe. So obviously people with a lot more to hold have a lot more room for invective maybe.

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>>3911386

>having this much ressentiment

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3911407

>>3911400

>having no arguments for anything at all

>> No.3911409

>>3911388
Of course. For what it's worth, >>3911350 was a rather witty post.

>> No.3911416

>>3911407

>Assuming I'm the same dude and I'm not just popping in to call someone out on their idiocy, 'cause that's how I roll

>Assuming I have an argument to make and I'm not just saying you/that guy aren't just being a tremendous faggot

>> No.3911418

>>3911409
Well yes. I was through hitchens and harris in gymnasium, and besides finding out that most of what they said has either been basic knowledge the last two thousand years or plain wrong, they're just blatantly rude.

Being kind is good

>> No.3911440

>>3911416
>assuming that i assumed anything
>implying you're not a tremendous faggot for not providing an argument

please shelter yourself within >>>/b/

>> No.3911460

>>3911440

>see, I don't have to listen to you because you're not doing what I think you should do

No anon, you are the >>>/b/

>> No.3911461

>>3911294
>wondering why people start hating something opposed to things they've hated before
>trying to be a sensation on an imageboard
>2013

>> No.3911476

>>3911460
the fact that i answered to you implies that i 'listened' to you, idiot.

>> No.3911482

>>3911476

>Not even addressing what I'm saying

No anon

you are the idiot

>> No.3911490

>>3911482
woah, make sure you take care of that poor reading comprehension, you cancerous and illogical drone

>> No.3911498

>>3911490

You take care of that knee-jerk anger, you cancerous and illogical butthurt summerfag.

>> No.3911510

>>3911490
haha
didn't think poor reading comprehension would correlate to lack of originality; come up with your own insults, you half-baked blockhead

>> No.3911523

>>3911378


any podunk usmc grunt can understand how he and his surroundings are integral and extensions, why is it so hard for you?

>> No.3912160

>>3911386

you said the arbitrary word secular. you dont realize how arbitrary the world is. i think you're retarded.

>>3911390

Id honestly still think that is just people putting importance on things, more than anything else. But who knows?

>> No.3912165

>>3911523

you mean the people who only have one life, but are brainwashed into thinking that their life is expendable for a cause that doesn't even involve them?

the militaristic mindset is a fucking tragedy.

>> No.3912173

>>3912165
>you mean the people who only have one life
woah
you can give a proof for a positive truth-value of #yolo?
i'm waiting

>> No.3912179

>>3912173

>hey you can't definitively prove what im saying ISN'T true. Therefore I'm right

that is the shittiest way to approach an argument

>> No.3912221

>>3912179
as always, you are void of any argument

i wonder why your copious amount of shitposting hasn't been banned yet

>> No.3912256

>>3912221

you still aren't really saying anything other than #yolo

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3912288

>>3911418

>most of what they said is basic knowledge
>the majority of the world's population believes otherwise