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[Anonymous No.23335672]

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[Anonymous No.23335678]

>*mogs you in your path*

[Anonymous No.23335679]

>>23335678
is that a fucking izesaio shirt?

[Anonymous No.23335708]

>>23335678
literally who?

[Anonymous No.23335713]

>>23335708
Don't be salty, anon. He might write D-tier anime funslop but he's richer than you'll ever be

[Anonymous No.23335720]

>>23335713
i dont even know who youre talking about. i looked up the name got nothing sorry

[Anonymous No.23335803]

>>23335672
Any fantasy novels that are pro-fascist?

[Anonymous No.23335808]

>>23335720
That's Brandon Sanderson, bro. You'll find his stuff under that name.

[Anonymous No.23335863]

>>23335808
Oh my mistake I Binged gay retard instead

[Anonymous No.23335889]

what do i read next

[Anonymous No.23335905]

>>23335863
i seriously didnt know

[Anonymous No.23335907]

>>23335889
you've read everything already, sorry.
i'm (listening to, 'free' with audible) the assassin's apprentice for the first time. it's great

[Anonymous No.23335955]

Any recommendations of fantasy books with non standart settings and "alien" flora and fauna? So no fantasy inspired by euro mythologies, fae and elfs please.

[Anonymous No.23335989]

>>23335955
C.S. Lewis's Space Trilogy is technically sci-fi but the first book Out of the Silent Planet reads like fantasy with some quasi sci-fi elements. I enjoyed it a lot. It also has a unique take on the hero's journey, imo. Some people say the 2nd book Perelandra is even better but I haven't gotten around to it yet. Happy reading

[Anonymous No.23336000]

>>23335955
brando sando

[Anonymous No.23336025]

>>23335889
What have you read already?

[Anonymous No.23336038]

>>23335955
reverend insanity has houses that grow on the backs of elephants that swim in the ocean

[Anonymous No.23336058]

>>23336038
i'm curious, how does this play a part in the story?

[Anonymous No.23336062]

>>23336058
It doesn't really, but everything is very strange in RI. For example, the siege weapon of the enemy is a flying hut that's actually made out of bugs but looks like a bamboo shack.

[Anonymous No.23336106]

Are there any good zombie novels other than I am Legend and World War Z? All of the ones I have read seem like they were written for teens.

[Anonymous No.23336109]

>>23336038
Hmmm

[Anonymous No.23336238]

iron golds ending was good, and dark age is off to a good start. darrow being a force of nature as usual.

[Anonymous No.23336273]

>read a /lit/ original book.
>it's not bad
Call me surprised.

[Anonymous No.23336277]

>>23336273
knights of valorachads, we won

[Anonymous No.23336286]

>>23336277
what? I read xenos depths

[Anonymous No.23336372]

Why does Bakker waste his time arguing with /lit/ retards about neuroscience when he could be working on the No-God?

[Anonymous No.23336399]

Finally watched Dune part 2
Goddamn I love sci-fi/fantasy again

[Anonymous No.23336417]

>>23336372
This has convinced me to read bakker desu

[Anonymous No.23336439]

Do you guys break up your big series with smaller books in between or just stick with the series?

[Anonymous No.23336456]

23336372
23336417
samefag
bakkerfag thinks we're all retards but that won't stop him from contributing to a fifth year of complete and total thread ruination

[Anonymous No.23336462]

>>23336439
I generally like to leave a bit of breathing space between volumes even if I really really like the story. Maybe it's some sort of subconscious fear of disappointment, who knows.

[Anonymous No.23336464]

just finished reading Dune.
It was alright. I liked the aesthetic but I got blue balled in several points. I expected Rabban to be an actual character but he died offscreen with barely a mention. The worms being used in battle got like 2 lines.
The highlight was Alia being a smug little shit to the emperor.
I'm vaguely interested in what Princess Irulan will do in the sequels but eh.

[Anonymous No.23336466]

>>23336456
Lmao, sure thing its just the one guy. You got him lil bro. Detective slop-reading-retard on the case.

[Anonymous No.23336475]

>>23336464
the parts you liked are expanded greatly going forward lol

[Anonymous No.23336626]

What did you read this month? Pic related is me

>100% Match
Actually quite nice, it's funny enough how the Mc just does more and more insane stuff. Very short which I find a positive. 8/10
>Along the Path of Torment
Brett Easton Ellis core. If you like his books you will enjoy this. A bit like the third book for the "less than Zero/ Imperial Bedrooms" series. 9/10
Sixteen Ways to Defend a Walled City
>10/10 Really good, if you like this one and want to read more about the world I would read "A Practical Guide..." afterwards instead of "how to rule..."
>How to Rule an Empire and Get Away with It
6/10
>A Practical Guide to Conquering the World
7/10
>a short stay in hell
enjoyable but at the same time exactly what you would expect from reading the blurb. One could argue that it stops when it gets interesting but on the otherhand I would have liked it a lot less if it had keept going for another 100 pages. 7/10
>Tender the flesh
you might know "Meat by Joseph D'Lacey" as a famous humans as meat book but this one is actually good and shorter but at the same time it explains more about the how and why at the same time. 8/10

[Anonymous No.23336656]

>>23335907
the narrator sucks in it, you'd be better off reading it yourself.

[Anonymous No.23336663]

What did you read this month? Pic related is me

>100% Match
Actually quite nice, it's funny enough how the Mc just does more and more insane stuff. Very short which I find a positive. 8/10
>Along the Path of Torment
Brett Easton Ellis core. If you like his books you will enjoy this. A bit like the third book for the "less than Zero/ Imperial Bedrooms" series. 9/10
>Sixteen Ways to Defend a Walled City
10/10 Really good, if you like this one and want to read more about the world I would read "A Practical Guide..." afterwards instead of "how to rule..."
>How to Rule an Empire and Get Away with It
6/10
>A Practical Guide to Conquering the World
7/10
>a short stay in hell
enjoyable but at the same time exactly what you would expect from reading the blurb. One could argue that it stops when it gets interesting but on the otherhand I would have liked it a lot less if it had keept going for another 100 pages. 7/10
>Tender the flesh
you might know "Meat by Joseph D'Lacey" as a famous humans as meat book but this one is actually good and shorter but at the same time it explains more about the how and why at the same time. 8/10

[Anonymous No.23336706]

>>23336663
I'm glad K.J. Parker is still writing decent books.

[Anonymous No.23336713]

>>23336466
>lil bro
>>>/reddit/
>>>/9fag/
>>>/fagbook/

[Anonymous No.23336717]

Morgan Llywelyn's Irish fantasy is kino.

[Anonymous No.23336724]

>Rand Al'Thor
>Severian The Torturer

Any other chosen one characters done right? I feel like these two are the only ones with any actual nuance. Paul from Dune was okay I guess but nothing groundbreaking.

[Anonymous No.23336998]

>>23336724
Specifically "chosen" ones I guess are a bit hard for me to think of but I think Lyra from His Dark Materials is a good "chosen one". She's a compulsive liar who doesn't even know she's the chosen one, to put it very simply.
Alv from the Winter of the World series is also a chosen one that makes a lot of selfish mistakes but he's not a chosen one in the literal sense. Don't wanna say much more so I don't spoil it but yeah

[Anonymous No.23337004]

>>23336724
>paul
>nothing groubdbreaking
anon...

[Anonymous No.23337100]

>>23335672
Why is she hated? I don't understand

[Anonymous No.23337117]

>>23337100
Mostly because Sanderson keeps repeating her exact same character arc up until at least Oathbringer (I stopped after that) it gets annoying seeing her go through the exact same crisis of identity when it all but seemed she got over it at end of WoR

[Anonymous No.23337122]

What Star Trek kinos books you people recommend?

[Anonymous No.23337184]

>>23337117
I thought people hate her because she's a Mary Sue

[Anonymous No.23337195]

>>23337184
I forgot to add that's MY main issue with her, can't speak for the faceless masses however

[Anonymous No.23337197]

>>23337195
Nta, but how is she a Mary Sue?

[Anonymous No.23337211]

>>23337197
Never said she was, I meant I forgot to add it to this post >>23337117 I can see how the confusion happened my fault

[Anonymous No.23337262]

>>23336706
is it good?

[Anonymous No.23337357]

>>23337117
I started disliking Shallan on the boat on Shadesmar when Brandon kept trying to convince me evil Shallan wasnt the saboteur out of like 6 people and Kaladin of all people wouldnt notice.
And he spent half of that book on that plot

[Anonymous No.23337369]

>>23335803
You'd probably want something antihero-y and I think you're likely to find something like that if it a web novel or serial.

[Anonymous No.23337420]

>>23337262
I liked the Fencer series back in the late 90's when it was published.

[Anonymous No.23337596]

Finished Will of the Many.

Practical Guide to Evil did it better

[Anonymous No.23337927]

>>23337596
The genre really should've died after Traitor Baru, that plus some of the pulpier takes have really exhausted everything interesting there is to say.
>>23337100
I only read the first two books but you have Kaladin who feels like a proper protagonist with some of the strongest writing Sanderson's ever done and you keep getting taken away from him to go see Shallan being tutored/doing a bit of research and travel a bit.
It's classic multi-pov syndrome made worse because he's trying to actually make one of the pov's the "protagonist" of each book

[Anonymous No.23338124]

speaking of baru, has anyone read this yet? i enjoyed the out-there parts of baru's world so i'm interested to see what his sci-fi is like

[Anonymous No.23338188]

This knocked me totally sideways, where do I go next with him? I've only read this one.

[Anonymous No.23338195]

I just finished the Unholy Consult. My Bakker is complete.
Just for shits and giggles, I then went to read some Sanderson and honestly, I couldn't do it. I can't go back to this uninspired, shallow, elementary school prose infested DOG SHIT.

After Barron, I can't read most slop tier horror anymore. After Bakker, I can't go back to this slop anymore. It's unironically over, I peered to far and dug too deep to ever go back.

[Anonymous No.23338223]

Currently reading Elantris. Raoden parts are fun because of the magic mystery aspect, but I don't care about the princess and politics crap.

[Anonymous No.23338234]

>>23338195
I'd rather read Coiling Dragon than sanderson so that's not saying much

[Anonymous No.23338242]

>>23338195
what the fuck was kellhus trying to accomplish with the great ordeal anyway? i’ve read the final golden room scene like 10 times and it still eludes me
was the entire point merely to be at a topos so he could spawn Ajokli into the world? he could have just gone to cil-aujas, mengedda or some other cursed place and save himself the trouble.
was he actually trying to start the system resumption all along? that seems like a lame cop-out and doesn’t match the subtlety of his character
did he use Kelmomas try to fool Ajokli so he could get salted and hide from the Deceiver? (which is idiotic) or was he actually genuinely surprised by Kel showing up? both possibilities are utterly retarded desu
it’s a majestic ending no doubt, but the more i think about what actually happened, the less i understand

[Anonymous No.23338243]

>>23338195
what the fuck was kellhus trying to accomplish with the great ordeal anyway? i’ve read the final golden room scene like 10 times and it still eludes me
was the entire point merely to be at a topos so he could spawn Ajokli into the world? he could have just gone to cil-aujas, mengedda or some other cursed place and save himself the trouble.
was he actually trying to start the system resumption all along? that seems like a lame cop-out and doesn’t match the subtlety of his character
did he use Kelmomas try to fool Ajokli so he could get salted and hide from the Deceiver? (which is idiotic) or was he actually genuinely surprised by Kel showing up? both possibilities are utterly retarded desu
it’s a majestic ending no doubt, but the more i think about what actually happened, the less i understand

[Anonymous No.23338257]

>>23337100
Because why the fuck would anyone give a shit about Shallan's inane bullshit when Kaladin is over there being an actually well written and interesting character and he has to keep getting sidelined so we can read another dozen chapters where Shallan does nothing and learns fuck all.

[Anonymous No.23338305]

>last book ends with 2 mysterious new villains talking
I got spoiled on who they are and it sounds pretty cool, but everything I read about Frank's son's books make them seem really bad. Are they worth the read, at least books 7 and 8?

[Anonymous No.23338348]

>>23338243
This is gonna be one big spoiler fest, but I really wouldnt want to spoil the series for anyone because they're great books. Also, these are obviously gonna be my interpretations.

>what the fuck was kellhus trying to accomplish with the great ordeal anyway?
The Great Ordeal was his tool to reach the golden room, first and foremost. After learning the Gnosis from Akka, he's become infinitely more vulnerable (they even had to remove the chorae from the sarcophagus), so the Ordeal was a blunt too to make it that far.
When he reached the golden room, he was literally open to suggestions as it was revealed pretty quick that his opponents (the rulers of the Consult) were Dunyain as well - they had concluded their ways through the thousandfold though the same way Kellhus had. And, as Moenghus did, they took a wrong turn along the way.
Deflecting their plan and learning about the ark and the inverse fire, Kellhus decide to turn the tables. Instead of the Inchoroi coming into their world from the outside to ravage it, Kellhus will literally use Earwa and the Ark to conquer the outside and bring hell to them. He plainly says so.

In any case, there's a really big second apocalypse forum where people delve so fucking deep into the matter that I assume the last scene has several big threads discussing it at length already.

[Anonymous No.23338418]

>>23338243
>did he use Kelmomas try to fool Ajokli so he could get salted and hide from the Deceiver?

>kellhus says hes gonna conquer hell/outside
>does his magic stomping bullshit to paralyze the skin spies holding the chorae
at this point, the fuckery happens and we can assume the following
>ajokli takes over kellhus' body, as observed by malowebi: he starts growing the 4 horns in the golden reflection
>a moment later, one of the consult dunyain SEEs kelmomas entering the room and hiding
>the consult dunyain even stops arguing with kellhus and literaly tells him "somebody is hiding in this room and moving among us" or some shit, plain as day
>at this point though, kellhus is afk in his own body because Ajokli (being a God) has taken over his (still mortal) body for the moment
>Ajokli uses Kellhus' body to kill/disable the dunyain
>since kellhus isn't "there" to hear the dunyain's warning about the hidden presence and Ajokli is a God, chekhovs gun goes off
>kelmomas is invisible to the gods, they can not see him
>the same reason why even the Narindar, the literal assassins of the assassin god himself, had his plans foiled by kelmomas back in Momemn
>the guy blindly catches falling oranges from the fucking future and kills a princess by telling her where to stand before an earthquake hits, yet he can LITERALLY not see kelmomas
(kelmomas is unaware of that until the very end)

Now, why didn't malowebi's severed head save them? Because kelmomas stole yatwers stealth pouch from the tent where sorweels assassination plot failed.

the entire scene is fucking amazing when you think about it:
Kellhus can't save himself, because at the crucial moment, Ajokli decides to use his body as an avatar
The "evil" Dunyain can't save them because Ajokli kills them before they can finish their sentence
Malowebi can't save them because kelmomas' Chorae (moving void, he wouldve noticed) is hidden in the stealth bag. While Malowebi COULD have seen kelmomas with his eyes, he didn't because he was recuded to a cut off head swinging at Kellhus' dick size and facing one of the walls in the room - which is why the entire narration of the golden room happens from Malowebi retelling what he sees in the wall's golden reflections.

It's tragic and pretty funny at the same time when you think about it.
Also, despite what it looks like for most of the mid section of the series, Kelmomas and Ajokli are absolutely not on the same side. Kelmomas thinks so, but Ajokli doesn't even see him.
No god can see the boy with the split soul that is invisible to the gods (remember Samarmas?).
That boy with the split soul, invisible to the gods, ends up as the No-God.

It's literally GET INTO THE FUCKING HOLOCAUST ROBOT, DUNYAIN
I dont feel bad for the abundant use of spoilers btw, thank me later.

[Anonymous No.23338446]

>>23338418

> or was he actually genuinely surprised by Kel showing up?
Yes. After kelmomas hits him with the chorae, he's paralyzed and almost entirely salted (like what happened to serwa a chapter earlier, but she lived for some time). As he lies on the ground and Ajokli leaves his body, Kellhus is "back" in his own head and wakes up to kelmomas being there in the golden room without having noticed him sneaking in in the first place.
Shortly after, one of the skin spies slams his chorae against Kellhus' leg and kills him for good.

Oh, and also: Ajokli takes over Cnaiur at the very end to see what the fuck was even up.
He walks Cnaiur into the heart of the whirlwind and "sees... nothing", as the book says.
Ajokli CANNOT see the heart of the whirlwind because he is a god and kelmomas, despite (or DUE TO) being the no-god is invisible to him.

Bonus meme: the No-God is a philosophical zombie and blind to itself, hence him always broadcasting the messages WHAT AM I? and WHAT DO YOU SEE?
This bounces back nicely off Kelmomas being a literal fucking split soul schizo himself.

[Anonymous No.23338480]

i get the sequence of events, those are clear enough, but my question is still, what was kellhus’ real end goal? he says to the Dunsult that he wants to conquer Hell. how does striking a treaty with Ajokli help with that in any practical way? if he “becomes” Ajokli, meaning he always was Ajokli, then how does this accomplish anything at all, outside of making him merely subsumed into a part of Ajokli’s eternal soul? (which, I might add, is eventually doomed by the No-God anyway, since according to Kellhus reasoning, the No-God *must* win at some point in history, since the Gods are blind to it). the Consult wants to starve the Gods; it sounds like Kellhus (or is it Ajokli-Kellhus talking at that point?) wants to EAT the Gods. did Kellhus’ pact with Ajokli mean simply trading the World for a “get out of hell free” card? if so how does that make Kellhus any different from the Consult? it’s all so nebulous desu

[Anonymous No.23338552]

Finished Kingdoms of Death the other day and I'm already halfway through Ashes of Man, this series has really grown into itself and I couldn't be more glad I stuck with this it post book 1. Nothing pleases me more when I'm enjoying a story then when its capable of hurting you all while keeping you wanting even more and Kingdoms of Death is precisely that. Extremely strong 5/5 and one of my favorite reads in the last few years to be honest.

[Anonymous No.23338615]

>>23335672
Does this plot make sense
>A king wants to eliminate a powerful family
>The family is led by an idiot
>The King convinces the Idiot to become a general and sends him to invade
>The King hopes the, the Idiot will suffer a major defeat
>When the Idiot loses his army, he has two options, either bankrupt his family by rebuilding the army, or face a court marshal where he is deprived of all his lands

[Anonymous No.23338680]

>>23338552
Is this series done yet? I read the first two books and enjoyed them. But want to wait until the series is done to continue

[Anonymous No.23338697]

>>23338305
>last book ends with 2 mysterious new villains talking
This alone makes me wanna read books 5 and 6 but the ending of 4 made me sad. Should I?

[Anonymous No.23338729]

>>23335678
I hate him so much bros. My friend got me into reading Mistborn era 2, and how can a book be so cool and so sauceless at the same time? The entire books is nothing but points where I go "that's sick", but I left with no actual investment in the characters or plot.

[Anonymous No.23338748]

>>23338729
>sauceless

[Anonymous No.23338769]

I don't care how well Bakker's write, kellhus as a protagonist is boring as shit.
>uwu OP dude with mind control powers so kewl

get the fuck out

[Anonymous No.23338805]

>>23337927
>>23338257
>>23337117
Why does Brandon keep focusing on her anyway? Does he get the memo that people don’t like her?

[Anonymous No.23338810]

>>23338680
One more to go and the dude seems to be very diligent in about one a year so sometime early 2025

[Anonymous No.23338838]

>>23338805
stop being a CHUD

[Anonymous No.23338851]

>>23338838
I am serious anon

[Anonymous No.23338864]

>>23338838
make me

[Anonymous No.23338872]

Where's my detective fantasy book that doesn't use magic to solve everything?

[Anonymous No.23338881]

>>23338872
The second codex alera book, MAYBE?

[Anonymous No.23338914]

>>23338881
not detective enough. I'm thinking old school detective noir stories but with magic

[Anonymous No.23338924]

>>23338914
Fantasy detectives are going to want to use magic to solve crimes.

[Anonymous No.23338929]

>>23338805
I do think it’s because he need an obvious strong female character for the live action adaptation

[Anonymous No.23338941]

>>23338552
kingdoms of death gets my reward for the most spoilery title.

[Anonymous No.23338946]

>>23338805
I could stomach an unlikable female character. but what the fuck is going on with his writing? it seems like she has repeated the same character arc three times now. and dont even get me started about that thing in the rain in the crevise. unironically one of the most beautiful things branderson has written and its never brought up again.

[Anonymous No.23338967]

k... kino

[Anonymous No.23338993]

>>23338967
where's this from lol, a YA book?

[Anonymous No.23339039]

>>23338769
>kellhus as a protagonist
Lol

[Anonymous No.23339050]

>>23338615
If the head of the family is an idiot why not instead frame him for fraud or treason or whatever and confiscate his lands? If he sends him to war, the idiot might die and be succeeded by his less idiot relative. It also saves some human resources.

[Anonymous No.23339060]

>>23338769

Fairly sure Cnair is the secret real protagonist of the series.

[Anonymous No.23339062]

[Anonymous No.23339070]

I actually like Shallan. Her backstory in Words of Radiance made me cry a little bit, hit close to home. Yeah her dialogue can be a little long in the tooth but I think that's intentional. She reminds me of a little sister, annoying and bratty at times but it doesn't bother me all that much.

[Anonymous No.23339093]

>>23338914

[Anonymous No.23339179]

>>23335672
Read The Land Of Broken Roads.

[Anonymous No.23339188]

>>23339179
No, I don't think I will.

[Anonymous No.23339203]

>>23339093
I completely forgot Clancy Brown was in this. RIP Fred Ward and David Warner

[Anonymous No.23339247]

What are your recs concerning AI? I've read through the normie nonfiction books and it's unsatisfying, what's the best fiction that was written about AI recently? did not find a chart

[Anonymous No.23339380]

>>23339247
unironically ask gpt4 to write you a short story about ai

[Anonymous No.23339382]

RR currently the biggest platform for reading sf/fantasy webnovels?

[Anonymous No.23339391]

>>23339247
>recent fiction
lmao

[Anonymous No.23339440]

>>23338615
That's legitimately fucking retarded. First of all, if the king is sending him to war then he's going to war with the King's men, a powerful family isn't going to have a significant army, even a lord is only going to have a small force. Second of all, it relies on him losing, which puts you in a geopolitical mess and makes the king look like an idiot for trusting him. Third, it's leaving everything up to luck.
Fourthly, if the king is at odd with this family, he's better off leaving an idiot in charge of it.

[Anonymous No.23339574]

>>23339391
Is the situation that bad? I don't follow it much, I like a lot of science fiction, H. G. Wells sort of thing, but I've read books from the 90s etc

[Anonymous No.23339592]

>>23339440
>a powerful family isn't going to have a significant army, even a lord is only going to have a small force.
hail, retard

[Anonymous No.23339604]

>>23339050
The expanded context is that the Kingdom is an elective monarch, and its king is from a minor family, while the idiot is from a major family.
So, the king has little resources against the idiot. He did something suspicious other families would side with the idiot

>>23339440
> even a lord is only going to have a small force.
Why? Caesar only had 4 legions when he was made governor, but during his time as governor, he raised an additional 6 private legions.

[Anonymous No.23339805]

>>23339604
War is still not a good idea, there are too many things out of your control. Give the idiot some task to do and make sure he's idiotic enough to fail so you can punish him. If you want to risk, you can send him as an envoy somewhere but make sure someone you trust is there to clean up after him.

[Anonymous No.23339811]

read the belgariad

[Anonymous No.23339875]

Binged all of TWI in the last few months. Now that I'm caught up and I feel a sense of loss. I tried reading a few other litrpgs but they are too autistic with their stat sheet spamming. I guess I'll go back to normal fantasy.

[Anonymous No.23339908]

>>23339875
DCC
PGtE
Pale Lights

[Anonymous No.23339946]

Read Tenebroum

[Anonymous No.23339992]

Read the Sword of Bayne. Where else will you find a sword & sorc protagonist stroll through a neighborhood and cut off the finger of a literal suburban dad?

[Anonymous No.23340015]

>>23339908
Thanks anon, will give them a shot.

[Anonymous No.23340022]

>>23337100
God I fucking hate that bitch. She is the reason I dropped the Stormlight Archives.
I could have put up with Sanderson delaying the books to write his YA shit, but the books being delayed, and when you finally do get around to it, you are force fed an unfunny Shallan making stupid fucking quips. I couldn't take anymore.
I dropped the series at Oathbringer.

[Anonymous No.23340069]

cassandra is for ___

[Anonymous No.23340173]

>>23340069
Please no spoilers anon-sama

[Anonymous No.23340264]

>>23336062
Absolutely love it
Kung fu guy turns an entire river into protective garment and is chased and mauled by an immortal oversized ferret until he gets to a regional border and the ferret cusses him out since it can't follow anymore
It has some extremely kino scenes

[Anonymous No.23340462]

Is there something like a Michael Crichton for fantasy rather than sci-fi? Someone who spends a lot of time being passionately nerdy over little technical details and such.

[Anonymous No.23340482]

>>23339062
How come slop like this can get all its 2000+ chapters translated into english meanwhile actual foundational works like Condor Heroes and Zu Warriors still don't have a proper translation?

[Anonymous No.23340492]

>>23340482
Nibidy gives a shit about Condom heroes or Nu warriors, go read RI
Imagine writing a funny flying magical swords fantasy kung fu webnovel and Chinese government bans it and almost ruins your life over it due to how captivating, unhinged and at the same time extremely well liked by the readers it was

[Anonymous No.23340539]

>>23338914
Garret P.I.

[Anonymous No.23340545]

Someone write a book manifesting Bakkerfag and RIfag meeting, sperging out, and bitchslapping each other to death.

[Anonymous No.23340552]

>>23340545
get that broad Collen Hoover to write it as an Enemies to Lovers story

[Anonymous No.23340742]

Any recomendation of a book where reincarnation plays an important role? Something like Xenogears or manga Hi no Tori by Osamu Tezuka is prefarable, no isekai shit.

[Anonymous No.23340771]

>>23339811
i did, recently. It was simple, and good, especially after slogging my way through prince of nothing, and hating most of it. I was happy that there was no anal rape or cuckolding at all.
Then i read the mallorean and it was basically a repeat of the belgariad. still simple, and good, but also tiresome, especially the dialogue.

[Anonymous No.23340804]

>>23335803
Tyranny of steel web novel
a Lieutenant in the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers of German origin dies by accident during the retreat from Afghanistan.
he comes back to life as the son of baron kufstein in alternate history medieval Austria.
Reunites the German-speaking people under a new Reich through conquest and sets out for world domination. gets a bunch of wives along the way. Including a Norse girl, Japanese princess, Aztec princess,an Indian princess,mongolian golden horde princess and a Muslim Andalusian princess. oh and there are Norse gods involves.
so yeah,some good stuff for any aspiring larper

[Anonymous No.23340844]

>>23340771
>I was happy that there was no anal rape or cuckolding at all.
that's how low the bar is,huh
it reminded me once again how common cuckoldry seems to be in modern western fantasy. what's up with that?

[Anonymous No.23340850]

Let me know if anyone needs a professional editor. We'll charge whatever you can afford

[Anonymous No.23340853]

>>23340482
Those old works contain many foundational ideas of modern wuxia however as a whole they aren't great.

[Anonymous No.23340869]

>>23340850
How do i know i can trust you with my magnum opus, Top-hat Monkey goes West?

[Anonymous No.23340876]

>>23340804
>Reunites the German-speaking people under a new Reich through conquest and sets out for world domination. gets a bunch of wives along the way. Including a Norse girl, Japanese princess, Aztec princess,an Indian princess,mongolian golden horde princess and a Muslim Andalusian princess. oh and there are Norse gods involves.

[Anonymous No.23340891]

>>23337117
>>23337357
>>23337927
>>23338257
>>23338946
>>23340022
Based Shallan haters.

>>23337100
Obvious answer is that she's the obligatory tired le badass female lead but is also excruciating to read about. The idea of her might've had potential but the dialogue and everything is so cringeworthy I really can't like her

[Anonymous No.23340906]

>>23340876
>>Reunites the German-speaking people under a new Reich through conquest and sets out for world domination. gets a bunch of wives along the way. Including a Norse girl, Japanese princess, Aztec princess,an Indian princess,mongolian golden horde princess and a Muslim Andalusian princess. oh and there are Norse gods involves.

[Anonymous No.23340941]

>>23338914
I enjoyed Dan Stout's Titanshade a good bit. The MC is a police cop in a fairly modern non-Earth setting.

[Anonymous No.23340979]

>>23340869

[Anonymous No.23340996]

>>23340869
I heard Christopher Nolan is attached to this project...

[Anonymous No.23341035]

>>23336439
only retards and redditors binge-read series

[Anonymous No.23341105]

>>23341035
i disagree i think its retarded not to binge a series seeing as its all one big story, different story if the series is still being written

[Anonymous No.23341191]

>>23338305
Don't read them. I'm serious. They suck and the story doesn't go in any meaningful direction. Just make up your own ending and stop at book 6.
If you really want to I guess look up a synopsis but I guarentee you will be disappointed either way

>>23340742
Definitely Thomas Covenant, at least the first 2 trilogys. Maybe Brian Aldiss's Non-stop (tho it isn't as important there but you should still read it because it's great pulpy, unorthodox sci-fi)

[Anonymous No.23341234]

>>23340804
>haremcuck

[Anonymous No.23341250]

I was looking on ebay and someone is selling a copy of Dune by Folio and the 'bonus' of the sale is that you get a 'reading copy' of Dune included which is just the standard paperback edition
What did they mean by this?

[Anonymous No.23341264]

Is there even one good webnovel? Every time I try one spoken of here, its unreadable trash. Feels like most of it is written by teens who should be writing fanfiction. Is it a genre for ESLs or are there some hidden gems?

[Anonymous No.23341277]

Finished Death's End. Was good, gave me a bit of existential crisis.
Now, do I read Redemption of Time? I keep finding conflicting info. Did OG author really OK this shit and consider it canon, or is it some bs move by Tor to get more money based on the 3 body universe?

[Anonymous No.23341282]

>>23341250
Folio Society books are basically just funko-pops, they are meant primarily for displaying on a bookshelf and not for reading. I don't know about their edition of Dune but I've seen some Folio books that are also too unwieldy to be practical for reading under most circumstances. In the case of that ebay listing they might just be offering another copy so you can still read dune without devaluing the folio one by opening it. The whole thing is kind of gay.

[Anonymous No.23341295]

>>23341264

[Anonymous No.23341296]

>>23340742
Deverry

[Anonymous No.23341310]

>>23341250
Folio society books are gawdy trash, for those who don't read. They look dreadful, yakworthy

[Anonymous No.23341319]

>>23341310
I was thinking about buying one because they're the only way to get sewn hardbacks
>>23341282
They seem like they're well made books so the comparison to funko pops seems a bit unwarranted
Anyway I've never actually seen one irl before so I don't know if I'd want to read it
I generally prefer smaller books for reading

[Anonymous No.23341376]

>>23339908
DCC is probably Dungeon Crawler Carl, but what's PGtE?
Also, any comments of Lord of Mysteries and Mothers of Learning? Have those two on my list

[Anonymous No.23341377]

>>23338872
>>23338914
Dresden files works I'd wager. It's pretty neat all things considered, definitely inspired by pulpy noir

[Anonymous No.23341383]

>>23341191
>Definitely Thomas Covenant
I got filtered by the rape in teh first book, does that ever get addressed/resolved in any way? Was weird how it happened and the protagonist just glossed over it.

[Anonymous No.23341458]

Fuck, Kemono seems to be down. Either that, or the guy who posts the TWI passwords has been slacking. Anyone knows any functional replacements?

[Anonymous No.23341471]

>>23341376
LOTM is kino story, kino setting, kino magic system, kino horror, shit writing

[Anonymous No.23341475]

>>23341471
TWI tier shit writing or worse? I have a vague idea that it's translated from chinese, so I expect worse

[Anonymous No.23341483]

>>23341383
yes, the entire trilogy is about how thomas goes from a depressed piece of shit (the unbeiever) to a genuinely good person who loves life (the believer)

[Anonymous No.23341690]

>>23341264
>Feels like most of it is written by teens who should be writing fanfiction
I thought that was what they were supposed to be desu

[Anonymous No.23341702]

>>23338697
I'm that Anon. I remember zero about book 5, I think that's just because I was young and getting burnt out by the time skips, but I liked book 6. The plot gets resolved, but like I said it basically leaves you hanging with what happens next and like the other Anon said, Brian's sequels are supposedly really not good.

[Anonymous No.23341753]

>>23341277
he okay'd it, but its release and popularity caused him to stop working on the sequel he was actively writing. so i refuse to read it on principle.

[Anonymous No.23341769]

>>23340891
>Obvious answer is that she's the obligatory tired le badass female lead
What do you mean by that?

[Anonymous No.23341786]

"Sit now there, and look out upon the lands where evil and despair shall come upon those whom you have delivered to me. For you have dared to mock me, and have questioned the power of Melkor, Master of the fates of Arda. Therefore with my eyes you shall see, and with my ears you shall hear, and nothing shall be hidden from you."

[Anonymous No.23341800]

>>23341786
>tfw can't unhead Melkor as Hansi Kürsch
https://youtu.be/FDLK5gjwK0A?si=G-VQ24R9dnfS2WgF

[Anonymous No.23341805]

>>23337100
She’s a narcissistic Mary Sue

[Anonymous No.23341814]

>>23341800
For me? It's Summoning

[Anonymous No.23341819]

In anger and pain, I left deep wounds behind - but I arrived! Truth might be changed by victory.

[Anonymous No.23341837]

>>23341827
?

[Anonymous No.23341856]

>>23336464
I had to reread it as well after seeing DUNC 2 and realizing I remembered jack shit apart from the general concepts. Granted, it's been 23 years. I actually think they did various parts better in the film, like Rabban as you said (literally what point to even mentioning Gurney's grudge in the novel if Rabban isn't even going to appear) and Alia not being born in the film because I hated the book ending. I thought the film ended abruptly but the novel had even less material there. That said, great book otherwise, felt remarkably modern for something written 60 years ago and I can see why it's considered a groundbreaking piece

[Anonymous No.23341870]

>>23341769
I've never seen a more self-explanatory sentence in my life, anon. I cannot believe your question is asked in good faith.

[Anonymous No.23341930]

What's a good fucked up dark sword and sorcery to read?

[Anonymous No.23341986]

>>23341930

[Anonymous No.23342028]

>>23341870
I’m not American, so I don’t know much about your literature production. What do you mean by obligatory female lead? You don’t need females to write a good book

[Anonymous No.23342061]

>>23342028
>What do you mean by obligatory female lead? You don’t need females to write a good book

It's just marketing BS. Suits and publishers look for what sells not what is good.

[Anonymous No.23342097]

>>23339247
Pic related, with the caveat that it's not actually about AI

[Anonymous No.23342100]

I want to write a sci-fi short story. I have an idea for a science fiction setting and backstory, but no characters or narrative. The setting takes place entirely on a massive spaceship. The people on it had their planet destroyed when their star exited its main phase and expanded into a red giant, and so they fled on this massive ship, which is the size of a town, but internally resembles a massive shopping mall with seemingly endless corridors, different levels, escalators, an infirmary, brig, apartments, “green zones” where trees, grass and plants grow and where various animals are kept and bred. The ship is powered by both cold fusion and nuclear power. It will take over 200 years to reach their destination; a habitable planet with liquid water and a hot iron core suitable for terraforming.

[Anonymous No.23342107]

>>23342100
>I want to write a sci-fi short story.
>here is my incredibly generic setting
>i have no characters or narrative
it's all so tiresome

verification not required

[Anonymous No.23342128]

>>23342107
t. Doesn’t like shopping malls

[Anonymous No.23342131]

>>23342100
Go the easy way, make it an intergenerational murder mystery

[Anonymous No.23342172]

>>23342107
>i have no characters or narrative
In fairness that's a lot of published sci-fi
Like everything related to the human characters in Tchaikovsky's Children of Time was actual garbo, but it managed to be a great novel because it was mostly about intelligent spiders

[Anonymous No.23342181]

>>23340069
>>23340173
Idk if I'm just a retard. But only after the mentioning of leaving things out of his reports followed quickly by the mentioning of his fathers silence tactic, did I realize that its an intentional parellel between hadrian and the quiet one.

[Anonymous No.23342186]

>THE TIBERUIM SUN HAS RISEN

[Anonymous No.23342433]

>>23341800
NIIII-III-III-IIIGHT FA-AAAAALLL!!!!
QUIE’TLY CREPT IN AND CHANGED US ALL!
NIIII-III-III-IIIGHT FA-AAAAALLL!!!!
IMMORTAL LAND LIES NOW IN BACK OF MEEE

[Anonymous No.23342688]

>>23342061
>Suits and publishers look for what sells not what is good.
But the storm light archive isn't good

[Anonymous No.23342710]

>>23337117
Everyone else has nailed it with why she's unpopular. But for me personally I don't like that she's the "witty" character. None of her quips or exchanges are ever particularly clever, yet other characters are constantly falling over themselves talking about how charismatic she is. Or how easily she can throw a career politico off kilter with one of her trademark witticisms.

Obviously this is just an issue with Sanderson not being clever enough to write a character like that, but it still rankles when she says something that I'd just take in my stride and fire a comment back, but the opposite character in the book just splutters and shits themselves. It always feels like plot armour after a certain point.

[Anonymous No.23342755]

recently watched pantheon and was wondering if anyone had any good recs with virtual/ai protags

[Anonymous No.23342777]

>>23340850
Do you strictly edit or do you give feedback on what could be changed or tweaked storywise, etc?

[Anonymous No.23342800]

>>23342688
Nta but that was his point. SLA sells well

>>23342028
Basically what it means is that publishers are now looking for very specific quotas for certain types of stories. They're not necessarily written on paper as rules to follow (though, I wouldn't be surprised if they were) but the trend has been going on enough in the US for people to catch on and see that publishers want as much feminist and diverse shit as you can imagine. One of those quotas is female leads who don't need no man. It might be fine if they were well written or actually realistic but 99% of these characters end up being cartoon characters or just men with tits.

The thing that pisses me off, really, is that they try to gaslight us into thinking we're crazy or sexists for pointing this out instead of being honest and being like, "yeah, we're not taking stories that don't support our views." They try to act like this is the natural way the market is going but it's all artificial

[Anonymous No.23342806]

>>23342800
>female leads who don't need no man
So...Shallan. Sanderson do sound like a hack alright

[Anonymous No.23342816]

>>23342800
The irony being that by making them into shrill harpies, men with tits or just walking caricatures, they're anything but as feminist or diverse or whatever as they like to think. They just tokenise because they don't understand anything more than some surface stuff.

[Anonymous No.23342820]

>>23342800
Do all of Sanderson's books have a strong female lead in it?

[Anonymous No.23342821]

>>23341930
The Kane novels by Karl Edward Wagner.

[Anonymous No.23342851]

>>23341376
Practical Guide to Evil

[Anonymous No.23342875]

has anyone read murderbot diaries

[Anonymous No.23342896]

Finished Three Body Problem and The Dark Forest, a little bit into Death’s End.

This series isn’t subtle about “women ruin everything,” huh? First, the dumb woman who called the Trisolarans. Then the bitchy Japanese woman who broke her Wallfacer husband. Now the dumb woman who couldn’t MAD.

[Anonymous No.23342905]

>>23342896
>women ruin everything
uh, based?

[Anonymous No.23342956]

>>23342820
Long answer: He writes according to a soulless blueprint that would translate easily to a 2000s TV adaptation.
Short answer: Yes.

[Anonymous No.23343000]

>>23342956
Is he still waiting for a live action adaptation of his books?

[Anonymous No.23343028]

>>23342896
They all receive extraordinary amounts if justification for their actions.
Humans have tormented Liu Wenjie pretty much since she was a child. The absolute best treatment she received from them was when she was kept captive at a millitary research site.

The Swordholder is pretty much the only.woman that actually sucks and fucked up a ton.

[Anonymous No.23343136]

>>23343028
even then its not entirely unreasonable how she fucked up.

[Anonymous No.23343140]

>>23340462
Tim Powers, maybe. He does a fair amount of research for each of his books, and the details resulting from this research matter to the plot. But he's more urban and historical fantasy than high fantasy.

[Anonymous No.23343225]

>>23342777
I say that it's "editing," but we actually do full punch ups and dialogue rewrites and plot alterations. I honestly do too much for what I'm charging, which is whatever people tell me they can afford. You can message us at https://www.fiverr.com/matthewg42

[Anonymous No.23343264]

Books I read today, all very short (100-200 pages)

>Prosper's Demon by K J Parker
It was interesting enough but it read exactly like this books >>23336663, you might now say he just has a style with the diary/ autobiography style but if an engineer, an actor, a political translater, a religious person (who knows "demons" exist), with different racial, cultural and social backgrounds all talk and think the exact same it is very samey. Which might only be a problem if you read a lot written by him in a short time frame.
>The Slob by Aron Beauregard
basic "splatter punk" I think but I really enjoyed reading about the protagonists life before she "meet" the slob. The stuff for which most will probably read the book is very basic and aside from one short thing at the end nothing you havent read or seen before.
>The Son of the Slob by Aron Beauregard
The premise sounds very interesting but this was by far one of the most boring (and I liked the slice of life part in his first book the most) and copy paste bullshit ever. At times it looks like he actually put effort into taking the most foreseeable road down the story possible.

[Anonymous No.23343303]

>>23343028
>>23343136
>>23342896
It's not so much women as it is ideological metaphors.

[Anonymous No.23343320]

>>23342821
How fucked up are we talking

[Anonymous No.23343434]

>>23343225
Thank you, man, just saved your page. This is what I've been looking for for a really long time, so I probably will contact you some time.

[Anonymous No.23343440]

>>23342816
Yeah, this is what is obvious to anybody looking in with common sense. But most of these people don't have anough self-awareness to realize that this just makes them look unhinged and out of touch. I hope that things will correct and these publishing houses get what's coming to them

[Anonymous No.23343448]

>>23343000
The thing is that a lot of Sanderson's works are anime type of works. Meaning lots of colorful magic, campy dialogue, spectacle, etc. So I would argue that his adaptations aren't exactly that easy to adapt. I think he's been in the works to try and adapt Mistborn but dunno what's been going on

[Anonymous No.23343469]

>>23343448
Why doesn’t he just try to make an animated adaptation anyway? While no way the nips would consider adapting his stuffs, he can just make an avatar-like animation

[Anonymous No.23343473]

>>23342956
>He writes according to a soulless blueprint that would translate easily to a 2000s TV adaptation.
LoL. How do you know?

[Anonymous No.23343482]

[Anonymous No.23343485]

I have no idea what to write about.
What books should i read in order to gleam divine inspiration?

[Anonymous No.23343494]

>>23343469
nta, but of course there's a chance that they would adapt it. It's just a matter of money and/or someone interested. There's even precedent for a western fantasy series being adapted and many other Western properties.

[Anonymous No.23343500]

>>23343485
https://wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_religious_texts

[Anonymous No.23343502]

>>23338946
Way of Kings was peak Sanderson, it's all downhill from there.

[Anonymous No.23343536]

>>23343502
low peak

[Anonymous No.23343632]

>>23343502
weak peak

[Anonymous No.23343634]

>>23343502
flacid peak

[Anonymous No.23343685]

>>23343485

[Anonymous No.23343699]

>>23343320
I don't want to spoil anything, It's basically told from the perspective of a very competent Dark Fantasy villain. Anti-hero doesn't apply, no saving the world, just looking out for himself, immortality has completely warped his sense of morality. Combine Robert E. Howards Conan and Michael Moorecocks Elric with H.P. Lovecrafts elder gods and history coming back to bite you on the ass, mix in Clark Ashton Smiths ability to create other worldly images, and sprinkle in some twisted concepts about how God really punished the biblical Cane. The writer has a background in Horror (all the best Sword and Sorcery writers do) and it shows. The setting is very bleak, hopeless and heavy metal.

If you're into Dark Fantasy then it's a must read.

[Anonymous No.23343704]

Started reading Elric. So in the first story he
>Abdicated his throne and empire to his obviously evil cousin
>Lead a group of raiders to pillage and burn his own city
>Killed his girlfriend with an evil sword
>Got all his raiders killed
>Is basically his evil swords bitch

You are the word hero ever!

[Anonymous No.23343745]

>>23343704
That's part of what I like about these books. He's completely new to this whole "morality" thing since it is effectively absent in his species and as a result, though he means well and is trying his best, he keeps fucking up horribly but endures and keeps pushing forward.

The "abdicates his throne to Yrrkoon" for example. A stupid thing to do, the sort of decision you would expect a child to make, to him it's the moral thing to do but he lacks the discernment to understand it's a bad idea. His understanding of morality comes solely from books, not something innate so it's completely foreign to him, it's a really great aspect to his character.

[Anonymous No.23344142]

>>23343469
Dunno if he's considered animation, desu. But I know a lot of the fans have talked about how that's the most likely route, save for an MCU-tier budget

[Anonymous No.23344523]

Been playing a lot of Caves of Qud lately. Any decent and lesser-known Gamma World inspired stuff? Short stories or novels.

[Anonymous No.23344574]

>>23343745
I was solidly entertained whole reading for what it's worth. And had I actually gotten to it in my younger days I'd probably have loved it. Not sure why I never really read it as a kid despite always being into that milieu. Life's funny.

[Anonymous No.23344689]

>post a negative royalmail review
>gets removed for talking about "violence" (book content)
>sparkling 5 star reviews remain
Fuck you nigger, have a 0.5 from my main and alt

[Anonymous No.23344746]

>>23344689
What book?

[Anonymous No.23344757]

Any good dark/gothic fantasy? I've read the classics and some new ones I liked were Hollow, Empire of the Vampire, Between Two Fires, The Black Company, and the first book of the Iconoclasts series. Ideally it'd have its own world and not be set on earth, but as you can see I don't mind it historical either.

[Anonymous No.23344767]

>>23344757
Since you've read the classics I'm guessing you've read Gormenghast? If so, I really don't know much other gothic fantasies off the top of my head

[Anonymous No.23344791]

Anons, I stumbled upon one of the charts and found a recommendation for Dungeon Crawler Carl. I started reading and it's the most fun I'm having with a book in a LONG time. It's almost like I'm reading a story version of a nethack run. It's really good so far.
I have a question , though: this is the first time I'm reading a LitRPG, and there are a lot of items and stats descriptions. Should I take notes of this and/or remember exactly what they are? I mean, is there any kind of interactive experience later on or are these things included just because that's how the genre works?

[Anonymous No.23344803]

>>23344767
Oh yeah I've read that one too. I've even read Boy In Darkness, a side story, and honestly its really insane even compared to the other books.

[Anonymous No.23344804]

>>23344791
I've only read DCC, a whole bunch of gamer fanfics, Iron Prince and Street Cultivation. But in my experience none of it matters. The character will be carrying BLUE PEN for 1000 chapters before it becomes relevant and SOCCER BALL WITH FROWN DRAWN ON IT never does.

[Anonymous No.23344871]

>>23344757
You may like >>23343699

The writer described the main character as "not a sword and sorcery hero; he is a gothic hero-villain from the tradition of the Gothic novels of the 18th and early 19th centuries" and cited Melmoth the Wanderer as an influence (I'm assuming you already read that one).

[Anonymous No.23344892]

>>23344871
ohhh thanks I'll check that out

[Anonymous No.23344985]

"...and the greatest works of Elves and Dwarves were brought together and made one; and it's beauty was very great, for now the countless jewels of the Nauglamír did reflect and cast abroad in marvellous hues the light of the Silmaril amidmost. Then Thingol, being alone among them, made to take it up and clasp it about his neck; but the Dwarves in that moment withheld it from him, and demanded that he yield it up to them, saying: 'By what right does the Elvenking lay claim to the Nauglamír, that was made by our fathers for Finrod Felagund who is dead? It has come to him but by the hand of Húrin the Man of Dor-lómin, who took it as a thief out of the darkness of Nargothrond'. But Thingol perceived their hearts, and saw well that desiring the Silmaril they sought but a pretext and fair cloak for their true intent; and in his wrath and pride he gave no heed to his peril, but spoke to them in scorn, saying: 'How do ye of uncouth race dare to demand aught of me, Elu Thingol, Lord of Beleriand, whose life began by the waters of Cuiviénen years uncounted ere the fathers of the stunted people awoke?' And standing tall and proud among them he bade them with shameful words be gone unrequited out of Doriath.
Is this the biggest btfo'ing in Tolkien? The Dorfs have no response to this speech except to just chimp out and murder him

[Anonymous No.23344991]

>>23344985
Not even close to some of Melkor's autism.
Can somebody remind me why the Valar don't intervene in this shitshow like they did in the First Age? Is it because they consider it a consequence of the Doom of the Noldor and iirc they said they wouldn't get involved.

[Anonymous No.23345041]

The latest update from the GURM cookbook foreword.

[Anonymous No.23345056]

>>23344791
Post chart please. Couldn't find it in the mega

[Anonymous No.23345103]

Thinking more about Kellhus and Moenghus
ultimately Kellhus fell to the same fate as his father did. Moe blinded himself thinking it would bring him closer to power but it literally blinded him. Kell gained power of Ajokli but it blinded him to his son who is the true no-god. The No-God would have to be an Ansurimbor because that's who Celmomas saw in the winds. That's who Nau-Cayuti was telling him would come. Cayuti only worked temporarily for initiation circuit (due to similarity through torture) but Kellomas was the true No-God in the block universe timeless sense. But Kellhus was too blind to see. It's amazing how this was planned out for so long.
This is all correct right?

[Anonymous No.23345109]

What about "The Light That Comes After"?

[Anonymous No.23345120]

>>23345109
what if the no-god trilogy had a happy ending? would bakkerfag seethe or clap?

[Anonymous No.23345125]

Where do I read The Three-Body Problem?

[Anonymous No.23345129]

>quiet gods chapter 25
hahaha what the fuck is this book! this is insane.

[Anonymous No.23345182]

Finished this earlier and now I'm sad. Being Hadrian is suffering and frankly I can't wait for this him to wipe the cielcin out lol also is it just me or was the Emperor intentionally goading Hadrian because its hard to believe he wouldnt be smart enough to realize "she was only Tavrosi" is the single worst thing anyone could have said
Another 5/5 and I'm already almost done The Dregs of Empire can't wait to start Disquiet Gods

[Anonymous No.23345211]

>>23345182
first book was pozz and suffering, are the other books at least just suffering

[Anonymous No.23345235]

>>23345211
hadrian becomes a based and tradpilled old man eventually, but the majority of the pozz stops after book 1.
also
>surprise! it was paradise lost all along!

[Anonymous No.23345236]

>>23345182
>can't wait to start Disquiet Gods
this shit is fucking insane man.

[Anonymous No.23345254]

>>23345129
I cant find this book, what are you talking about?

[Anonymous No.23345262]

>>23344991
I think it was the Falmari who mostly refused to join the War of Wrath. Anyway, I always assumed the Valar were aware that a true fight between them and Melkor would lead to the complete destruction of Arda and its inhabitants. Iirc their last direct war was after the Elves had just awakened and not only did it change the face of Arda, it completely freaked out the Elves too.

[Anonymous No.23345279]

>LAST READ
>READING
>READING NEXT

[Anonymous No.23345283]

>>23345254
>>23340069

[Anonymous No.23345285]

>>23345279
>LAST READ
The Silmarillion
>READING
Piranesi
>READING NEXT
Probably Unfinished Tales

[Anonymous No.23345290]

>>23345283
>LAST READ
Iron Gold
>READING
Disquiet Gods, Dark Age
>READING NEXT
idk

[Anonymous No.23345292]

>>23345290
wrong. fucking. post.
>>23345279

[Anonymous No.23345296]

>>23345279
>LAST READ
I don't remember
>READING
Coiling Dragon
>READING NEXT
Get back to Sin of Empire

[Anonymous No.23345320]

>>23345285
are you enjoying Piranesi? i thought it was excellent

[Anonymous No.23345328]

>>23345279
Well, damn, I'm not reading anything fantasy now.
>LAST READ
Morte d'Arthur poem by Tennyson
>READING
Alamut
>READING NEXT
Planning to reread the Odyssey. The last time I read it I was 11 and I can barely remember a thing.

[Anonymous No.23345365]

>>23345320
Very much. I loved JS&MN, too. I really should read her short story collection.

[Anonymous No.23345369]

>>23345125
Having fun isn't hard if you have a library card.

[Anonymous No.23345374]

>>23345125
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three-body_problem

[Anonymous No.23345380]

>>23343699
Ok I'm sold, what's the best collection or starting point or whatever

[Anonymous No.23345489]

>>23345120
>what if the no-god trilogy had a happy ending?
but it does though? the consult were the good guys, unironically

[Anonymous No.23345507]

>>23345279
>last
Blood Meridian
>current
The Spear Cuts Through Water
>next
probably some normgroid airport shit

[Anonymous No.23345540]

>>23344746
EMPRESS: A World Conquest Isekai

[Anonymous No.23345542]

>>23345328
>comes here to bakker shitpost

[Anonymous No.23345602]

>>23345540

[Anonymous No.23345695]

>>23345056
Sorry, I went to sleep right after the post. Here it goes.

[Anonymous No.23345704]

/litrpg/ dogshit should never been allowed in this general
i was looking through the archives and it’s almost amazing how much more intelligent the average post was, and how much more genuine conversation took place, even two years ago before this place was overrun by weebs and their webnovel garbage

[Anonymous No.23345843]

>>23340539
>Garret P.I.
good shit. also, garrett is always portrayed as a stereotypical private detective on the covers even though he doesn't look like that in the stories.

[Anonymous No.23345845]

>>23344791
DCC is one of the rare litrpg where the stuff shown almost always matters. Most will pointlessly spam you with stat screens and shit and it's nothing but word count padding. In DCC pretty much everything is relevant at some point and stat screens are barely a thing.

[Anonymous No.23345861]

>>23345695
I've been reading Super Sales on Super Heroes and holy shit does it turn to actual garbage after chapter 13. It is /lit/rpg, yeah, but why the fuck did the MC randomly start talking like a mafia boss for a whole page? Also, Andrea is the dumbest motherfucking character, and not in an endearing way. You'd think Miu would be the one to act like a stereotypical female anime MC, but for some God damn reason this beastkin bitch has been given the role, even down to adapting jp-isms. "Nn!" Shut the fuck up. Still reading it, though. I just won't read past the first book.

[Anonymous No.23345866]

>>23345279
>LAST READ
For However Long, short story Hugo nominee. Like almost every entry it is profoundly mediocre.
>READING
Vampire Hunter D Volume 04: Tale of the Dead Town
>READING NEXT
Probably getting around to actually finishing The Cleric Quintet after almost two years. Reading five D&D novels back-to-back is too much.

[Anonymous No.23346129]

>>23345279
>LAST READ
Will of the Many.
As I said on previous post , PGtE did it better. The 3rd part was excelent though. Waiting causiously for next book. 3.5/5

>READING
Gardens of the Moon
Going good so far. I don't understand why people say it's complicated/confusing. Nothing jaw-dropping yet though

>READING NEXT
Children of Time
Heard good things about it , wanna see if it's worth the hype.

I'm also reading a few webnovels weekly. I'm not terribly impressed by trad-pub things so far but I'm stil catching up.

[Anonymous No.23346142]

>>23345279
>LAST READ
The Wandering Inn (Speaking of which, oh hey, Kemono is back online)
>READING
Mistborn: Wax & Wayne Series
Currently at Shadows of Self
>READING NEXT
Either The Broken Empire Trilogy (some friends told me it's excessively edgy, but very goofy if read as a parody/don't take it seriously) or Lord of Mysteries

[Anonymous No.23346157]

>>23345380
I read the novels and then the short story collections, this is the order:
Bloodstone
Dark Crusade
Darkness Weaves
Death Angel's Shadow
Night Winds
Book of Kane

Enjoy. Also, his Conan pastiche novel Road of Kings, when compared to other writers, is the only one that feels worthy of the title of Conan, he nailed it.

[Anonymous No.23346162]

>>23345704
Based and agreed. It's a whole different genre at this point. The problem is it could all easily be put under the fantasy category.

>see guys? Le virtual world with le epic sword levelling up! We're sci-fi fr fr

[Anonymous No.23346165]

>>23345320
>>23345285
Loved Piranesi, as well. The ending is a bit... just there, but overall it was a very interesting experience

[Anonymous No.23346167]

>>23345279
>LAST READ
black prism by brent weeks (only the first book)
>READING
spook's apprentice
>READING NEXT
thomas covenant

[Anonymous No.23346170]

>>23345279
>LAST READ
Bone graphic novel series by Jeff Smith
>READING
Catch-22
>READING NEXT
Thinking of going with either Inkheart or Rumo and His Miraculous Adventures

[Anonymous No.23346172]

>>23345704
better than bakker spam

[Anonymous No.23346183]

Why do you hate this?

[Anonymous No.23346255]

>>23346183
Harry Potter with extra steps.

[Anonymous No.23346292]

>>23345211
Book 4 and is pure unfiltered suffering

[Anonymous No.23346297]

Started this. Loved the first two books in the series. Very funny to see Gibson drop the n-word in the second chapter. Felt like he built up goodwill with the black community over the first 2 books (Malcom in book 1 + the voodoo boys in book 2) so that he could immediately cash it in for 1 nword token here lol.

[Anonymous No.23346406]

>>23343745
>His understanding of morality comes solely from books
Haha...
Imagine that...

[Anonymous No.23346412]

>>23344523
Maybe read Hiero's Journey and its sequel, if you haven't already. It was the primary inspiration for Gamma World.

[Anonymous No.23346413]

>>23346162
Because litrpg is fantasy.

[Anonymous No.23346417]

>>23346129
>Going good so far. I don't understand why people say it's complicated/confusing. Nothing jaw-dropping yet though
Yeah, I agree. I never had an issue understanding what was going on in GotM and the switching perspectives wasn't a problem at all.

Have you been spoiled for anything in the series?

[Anonymous No.23346419]

>>23346183
I love it though and am rereading it right now.

[Anonymous No.23346449]

>>23346417
no , unless any indie author I'm into stole plot-points.

[Anonymous No.23346462]

>>23346449
Enjoy the ride.

[Anonymous No.23346480]

>>23346419
Why Do people waste their time with absolute trash like this?

[Anonymous No.23346494]

>>23346406
I guess that does sound stupid out of context. Think of it more like being blind, having someone describe what colors are and you trying to comprehend it.

[Anonymous No.23346513]

>>23346129
>PGtE
what?

[Anonymous No.23346554]

>>23346513

see
>>23342851

[Anonymous No.23346558]

wow i cant believe they actually just killed off hadrian this deep into the series. seems like a crazy time to do a protagonist switchup.

[Anonymous No.23346586]

>>23346558
i regret making this post. it IMMEDIATELY got more crazy.

[Anonymous No.23346632]

>>23346480
It was good until the Mormon.

[Anonymous No.23346661]

>>23346586
oh for FUCKS SAKE. i just realized how this series is going to end...

[Anonymous No.23346767]

Does the Riyria series get any better? I've just started the second story of the first book I'm getting tired of clumsy exposition dumps and plot convenient retardation.

[Anonymous No.23346944]

Currently on book 6 of wot. Feels like every other aes sedai is a black ajah. How do you constantly fuck up so much when you're basically the ruler of the continent?

[Anonymous No.23346999]

>>23346157
isn't Darkness Weaves the first in the order?

[Anonymous No.23347024]

>>23346157
But Karl Edward Wagner's estate refuses to release the novels as anything but ultra-expensive hardbacks so you're either left with spending hundreds on used paperbacks or newly released hardbacks or reading the censored woke versions on amazon kindle

[Anonymous No.23347028]

>>23346999
They're designed to be read in any order you want
The only exception is the story reflections for the winter of my soul which comes after dark crusade chronologically
Undertow is one of the earliest kane stories chronologically though, some autist made a website detailing the exact chronological order somewhere

[Anonymous No.23347087]

>>23347028
>some autist made a website detailing the exact chronological order somewhere
is this it?
https://thedarkstormfiles.blogspot.com/search/label/Kane%20chronology

[Anonymous No.23347162]

How do we make cultivation great (again?)

[Anonymous No.23347168]

>>23347024
The kindle versions are censored? I noticed they had weird romance novel cover art but I hadn't heard they had been bowdlerized.

[Anonymous No.23347181]

>>23347162
The guy that made Mother of Learning is currently working on one. It's decent so far but chapters come out at a snail-pace

[Anonymous No.23347216]

>>23347162
Kill CCP and allow RI to be finally completed

[Anonymous No.23347536]

>>23339811
I blame Polgara and Moiraine from WoT for my taste in women

[Anonymous No.23347708]

>>23345704
it sucks but it fits the genre and blaming its readers for the state of the thread is retarded when barely anyone except the review autist actually makes posts about reading sff outside the 10-20 names that pop up all the time

[Anonymous No.23347739]

I read the first book of a series called King's Dragon way, way back in elementary school and remember it being kinda dumb (all I remember is a dude escaping a prison and some girl gets magic powers, really generic), but I'm desperate for something to read. Any anons have a comment on if this series by Kate Elliott is worth it?

[Anonymous No.23347748]

>>23347739
not read that one but Kate Elliot is consistently pretty good

[Anonymous No.23347767]

>>23347748
What have you read of hers, anon? I'll give King's Dragon a re-read then, plus whatever you mention. I also remember being weirded out by the names being so normal like Henry and Alain, and the setting was so un-fantastic that I mentally pictured Eika as the AgDevils from Dragon Warrior Monsters just for something interesting. Then again, I was 9 at the time and now I'm way older and have an appreciation for history, and apparently it's alternative history.

[Anonymous No.23347770]

>>23347739
It's good, Elliott is one of the best female epic fantasy writers, and if the rape-anon is lurking then he may like this because there's some of it here

[Anonymous No.23347779]

>>23346944
Literally nearly half the tower ends up being Black Ajah

[Anonymous No.23347781]

>>23347779
tfw no black ajah gf

[Anonymous No.23347783]

>>23347770
Coming off of the Wheel of Time, you're getting me excited. Thank you anons for the reply, I'll be ordering this bitch at the library real soon.

[Anonymous No.23347796]

>>23347783
if you don't want to commit to a big series you can try the Crossroads trilogy, is shorter and has high magic from the start unlike CoS which starts as low fantasy and slowly becomes more magical in each book.

[Anonymous No.23347868]

>>23346944
Wait til you see what Tar Valon has in store. Aes Sedai incompetence knows no bounds

[Anonymous No.23347907]

>>23341383
That part influences the entire series, all the way til the last page of the 10th book. I would recommend a re-read for you. Remember Thomas Covenant being an unlikeable shit is written that way on purpose, not just to annoy the reader.
Also if you like sci-fi defintely check out his series The Gap Cycle.

[Anonymous No.23348030]

>>23345279
>LAST READ
Treasure Island. Took a break from scifi/fantasy. Treasure Island should be required reading. Easy 10/10. It is just insanely well written. No fluff, just story. It beat Moby Dick and Count of Monte Cristo for me. Its short, just read it.

>READING
The Black Company. I have no idea what to expect, but I have high hopes.

>READING NEXT
More than likely continue with my Discworld binge, likely hit the scifi ones (finished wizards, watch, and death)

[Anonymous No.23348142]

>>23346767
the series after the original story are better, but not by much.

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