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[Anonymous No.23329391]

Man what the FUCK is going on?

[Anonymous No.23329403]

I've heard about this multiple times now, and really want a new juicy fiction book to sink my teeth into alongside non-fiction readings. What the fuck IS going on, anon? Try to sell it to me, if you wouldn't mind. Please and thanks.

[Anonymous No.23329522]

It's pretty straightforward once you've read it a couple times

[Anonymous No.23329562]

>>23329403
It's a book about cocks and rockets. The main character's boner predicts rocket strikes, because the rocket is also like a cock and gets a sympathetic erection. Most of the book is spent trying to figure out what happened to the super cock rocket. Also there's a scene about 300 pages in where a guy eats diarrhea in vivid detail that makes most people drop the book. I personally found the book to be a bit of a slog, I had a more enjoyable time reading Ulysses.

[Anonymous No.23329573]

>>23329391
who cares?

[Anonymous No.23329623]

>>23329391
OP here, I finally get it now. I get what he's saying, I get his style. I just got really high after abstaining from weed for a month and read the part about Old Tchitcherine going AWOL in Herero land and fathering Enzian before going on to get killed in Tsushima. The prose was amazing. It felt like I was having an honest to God epiphany in the middle of reading it. I even got up to start typing out the words into my notebook. And then I, very high and starting to feel a little paranoid, and who just heard my upstairs neighbor hit the floor/ceiling 3 times with a sledgehammer, read this last line to end the scene. where he says:
>...drugs, make these things amazingly clear
>>23329403
yeah, I say go for it.

[Anonymous No.23329630]

>>23329391
A whale of a time.

[Anonymous No.23329649]

>>23329391
I'm like 120 pages in and I still mostly get what's going on. When's the point when people really get thrown off?

[Anonymous No.23329654]

>>23329649
gets weirder at the casino

[Anonymous No.23329666]

>>23329562
Nta but I can't tell if you're joking or not. How does Pynchon manage to make that profound? That doesn't sell it to me at all lol I did buy Mason & Dixon to which I found the premise much more interesting

[Anonymous No.23329687]

I mean this completely honestly: can I comprehend this book if I have Asperger's? I feel like the nuances of Pynchon's writing will escape people like me.

[Anonymous No.23329697]

>>23329687
On the contrary. I started liking it a lot more when I took everything 100% literally and played very close attention to detail like a robot.

[Anonymous No.23330246]

>>23329391
Something about rockets, erections, zoot suits, shit, BDSM, homo stuff and cake fights. Oh, and stuff about Western Civilization and how they chose Death instead of Life in the biggest occult ritual ever and the sins of America.

[Anonymous No.23330618]

>>23329649
Well the first 50 or so pages are meant to induce a groggy feeling and then the drugs kick in...

[Anonymous No.23330765]

>>23329654
Hmmm Alright
>>23330618
Yea I sorta saw the first 50 pages as something to filter a good amount. But I'm seeing some ppl on this board who finish the book and have no idea what the hell the book is about. The book in my opinion makes more sense now but maybe that's just me

[Anonymous No.23331375]

why do we allow Pynch to get away with being a recluse? what the fuck is his problem? why is he such a coward?

[Anonymous No.23331620]

>>23331375
Because he's literally me

[Anonymous No.23331724]

>>23331620
Start a twitch channel Pinch

[Anonymous No.23332923]

>>23329666
The main character keeps having sexual encounters in places where the Germans drop rockets on London, this one guy and his secret organization funded by the US are convinced that this is a sign that the main characters erection can somehow predict where the bomb falls but the book heavily implies that the character obsessed with the main characters erection is insane and delusional and that the whole organization is just a waste of money. There's one section where a character uses statistics to predict where the bombs will fall and people act like he's some magician and he gets really upset that they act like that because he's just using basic statistics to predict something that keeps repeating at regular intervals.

[Anonymous No.23332951]

>>23329391
Really not that hard to follow. Rocket goes boom, you die before you hear it. Secret society of psychics with ulterior motives. Gigachad antihero who is subject of said secret society’s experiments. Paranoia

[Anonymous No.23333723]

>>23332923
>>23332951
yeah, thats only part 1. you didn't finish the book psueds

[Anonymous No.23333756]

>>23333723
You actually read the whole thing? lol

[Anonymous No.23333773]

Some of my favorite quotes:

>Prophets traditionnally don't last long—they are either killed outright, or given an accident serious enough to make them stop and think, and most often they do pull back.

>All very well to talk about having a monster by the tail, but do you think we'd've had the Rocket if someone, some specific somebody with a name and a penis hadn't wanted to chuck a ton of Amatol 300 miles and blow up a block full of civilians? Go ahead, capitalize the T on technology, deify it if it'll make you feel less responsible—but it puts you in with the neutered, brother, in with the eunuchs keeping the harem of our stolen Earth for the numb and joyless hardons of human sultans, human elite with no right at all to be where they are

>What did Caesar really whisper to his protégé as he fell? Et tu, Brute, the official lie, is about what you'd expect to get from them—it says exactly nothing. The moment of assassination is the moment when power and the ignorance of power come together, with Death as validator. When one speaks to the other then it is not to pass the time of day with et-tu-Brutes. What passes is a truth so terrible that history—at best a conspiracy, not always among gentlemen, to defraud—will never admit it. The truth will be repressed or in ages of particular elegance be disguised as something else.

>The War, the Empire, will expedite such barriers between our lives. The War needs to divide this way, and to subdivide, though its propaganda will always stress unity, alliance, pulling together. The War does not appear to want a folk-consciousness, not even of the sort the Germans have engineered, ein Volk ein Führer—it wants a machine of many separate parts, not oneness, but a complexity...

[Anonymous No.23333782]

>>23333773
>What?

[Anonymous No.23333916]

>>23332923
this sounds hilarious. is it a fun read?

[Anonymous No.23333925]

>>23333916
no

[Anonymous No.23333954]

>>23329391
I'm going through the meme trilogy. Recently finished Ulysses and I even liked parts of it. Should I dive into this one or Infinite Jest next?

[Anonymous No.23333964]

>>23329562
>implying the boners predict the rockets
>implying that it's not the reverse

[Anonymous No.23334107]

>>23333925
Don't be like that anon, it's a fun but semi-challenging book. Would recommend, it's almost time for a second read for me.

[Anonymous No.23334109]

>>23333916
I found it really fun

[Anonymous No.23334114]

>>23329649
>120 pages in
You aren't even into the main part of the book yet.

[Anonymous No.23334117]

>>23331620
Well hurry up and write another fucking book before you die on us

[Anonymous No.23334121]

>>23333954
Gravity's Rainbow is more fun to read so I'd say go for that one first.

[Anonymous No.23334122]

>>23334114
Ok, so at what point does it become the main part then that confuses people?

[Anonymous No.23334136]

>>23334122
You could say that the main part starts in part 2 (around 180 pages in) but it really starts in part 3 (around 290 pages in.) It might seem to be less confusing in that the book stops focusing on multiple characters and centers on a single one, but the details of what exactly is going on, when in time it's supposed to be, and who is doing what become much more hazy. There are a lot of characters with multiple names.

[Anonymous No.23334146]

>>23334114
'The main part of the book' which mainly focuses on Slothrop in the zone is the easiest part to follow I think. The hardest parts are 1; because it introduces like a billion different characters, and 4; which just shizophrenic psychosis in written form

[Anonymous No.23334148]

>>23334146
Well 4 is definitely the hardest part to follow, and the entire reason this book will never be adapted into a movie.

[Anonymous No.23334224]

>>23331375
you are not entitled to his attention and/or presence, nigger

[Anonymous No.23334234]

>>23334146
The part in the last pages with uncircumcised dicks and flannels joke got me hard

[Anonymous No.23334238]

>>23334148
The novel IS a movie.

[Anonymous No.23334360]

>>23333954
Let me suggest you skip all of this and read Barth, either Sot Weed or Giles Goat Boy if you are feeling adventurous. He was the superior writer.

[Anonymous No.23334391]

>>23334360
Sot weed, yes. Goat-boy, no. It really overstays its welcome.

[Anonymous No.23334783]

>>23329562
>It's a book about cocks and rockets. The main character's boner predicts rocket strikes, because the rocket is also like a cock and gets a sympathetic erection

that motif's already have been used in Dr Strangelove

[Anonymous No.23335071]

>>23334783
Yeah there's some overlap for sure pynchon breathes movies