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Did any author face a more brutal death than that of Jack Kerouac?

>> No.23255005

>>23255001
how did he die? fucked to death by some gay jew?

>> No.23255017

>>23255005
Ran his mouth drunkenly LARPing at a bar and got his ass beat. Died of complications a few days later.

>> No.23255028

>>23255001
Knut Hamsen. The allies said he was senile so they wouldn't have to prosecute him after WWII. He wrote a book in order to convince everyone it wasn't true but it wasn't publicized widely. To me that's more tragic than trying to stay at the party too long.

>> No.23255032

>>23255028
>He wrote a book in order to convince everyone it wasn't true but it wasn't publicized widely.
lol retard didn't know they were trying to save his ass

>> No.23255038

he hit the wall so brutally in his last years due to his alcoholism

>> No.23255045

>>23255038
Which is a good thing. Writers should be ugly. If I see an author’s photo and they look attractive and well-adjusted, I refuse to read their book on principle.

>> No.23255048

>>23255045
Why would you care? Are you super ugly anon?

>> No.23255050

>>23255048
Yes, but I also think beautiful people have neither the need nor the inclination for introspection and sensitive reflection, which are necessary qualities for a good writer to possess.

>> No.23255062

>>23255050
I don't think I can agree with that. Those qualities are much needed, but they can develop in so many ways. Also, I'd say that going into the opposite causes the same effect; there are so many depressed, dandy writers who seem to get those qualities exactly because of their good looks.

>> No.23255074

He bled to death from a massive internal hemorrhage caused by his heavy drinking. His insides basically came apart. I've even heard he shat out his liver, cause it happened in the washroom when he went to take a shit.

>> No.23255093
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Harry Martinsson killed himself due to the controversy of receiving the Noble Prize in literature while being a member of the academy himself.
>The sensitive Martinson found it hard to cope with the criticism following his 1974 Nobel Prize award in Literature, and committed suicide on 11 February 1978 at the Karolinska University Hospital in Stockholm by cutting his stomach open with a pair of scissors in what has been described as a "hara-kiri-like manner".[14][15]

>> No.23255101

>>23255093
That's fucking metal, jesus

>> No.23255108

>>23255001
Writer and director Pier Paolo Pasolini was tortured to death.

>> No.23255109

>>23255093
Just return the prize and the money.

>> No.23255117

>>23255093
Based

>> No.23255121

>>23255109
It was a matter of honor in his view (hence choosing hara kiri), which can't be corrected by just returning the prize.

>> No.23255123

>>23255001
Mishima?

>> No.23255124

It was beat. Like the beat of a drum. Be-ACK

>> No.23255151

>>23255123
As he died he came.

>> No.23255175
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Hart Crane got beat up and then jumped off a ship. Must be scary being alone at sea, even if he regretted it for a second there was no turning back. You just get tired and drown eventually if you aren't eaten by whatever sea creatures there are

>> No.23255184

>>23255123
The dude failing to behead him with one blow sounds pretty brutal but I doubt he had his senses to even comprehend what was going on

>> No.23255190
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>Over 11 years in prison, his health deteriorated. Over this period, "his teeth fell out, his digestive system collapsed so that he could not eat solid food ... he had convulsions when he vomited blood and suffered headaches so violent that he beat his head against the walls of his cell."
>but a combination of arteriosclerosis, pulmonary tuberculosis, high blood pressure, angina, gout, and acute gastric disorders meant that he was too ill to move

>> No.23255205

>>23255001
There was this minor french writer who was literally vaporized by an artillery shell exploding next to him in WW1.

>> No.23255219

>>23255205
brutal but at least that is painless and quick enough that you dont even know what happened

>> No.23255225

The fact that DFW taped his hands together always stuck with me.

>> No.23255234

Kafka died a slow death of starvation because he couldn't eat

>> No.23255264

>>23255225
Still insane to me. He knew for a fact he was gonna panic and try to undo the noose and that thought wasn't enough to deter him.

>> No.23255315

>>23255001
Chamfort
>Unable to tolerate the prospect of being imprisoned once more, in September 1793 he locked himself into his office and shot himself in the face. The pistol malfunctioned and he did not die even though he shot off his nose and his right eye. He then repeatedly stabbed his neck with a razor, but failed to cut an artery. He finally used the razor to stab himself in the chest and to cut his own hocks, aiming at the veins. He dictated to those who came to arrest him the well-known declaration “Moi, Sebastien-Roch Nicolas de Chamfort, déclare avoir voulu mourir en homme libre plutôt que d'être reconduit en esclave dans une maison d'arrêt”, which he signed in a firm hand. His butler found him unconscious in a pool of blood. From then until his death in Paris the following year, he suffered intensely and was attended to by a gendarme, whom he paid a crown a day.

>> No.23255337

>>23255264
He was murdered.

>> No.23255346

(((They))) really tortured Ezra Pound for years after WWII.

>> No.23255348

>>23255225
Good lord that is dark
I had a really good friend that hung himself when he was drunk, and I never really knew the details of it, but I often wondered about them in macabre type of way, and also in my own moments thinking of suicide, about the way a self hanging plays out

>> No.23255351

>>23255001

Boethius was executed by having a cord tightened around his head. This was a common torture method back in the day (see e.g. the opera Tosca) so I guess it was painful.


Sherwood Anderson swallowed a toothpick on a sea voyage and died in his cabin from peritonitis, which is supposedly excruciating.


>>23255234
Several famous figures died of starvation.

Kurt Godel thought people were trying to poison him and would only eat food prepared by his wife, so when she died he stopped eating.

Isak Dinesen supposedly just stopped eating for some reason.

Not sure how painful that is though. You're going to get weaker and weaker. I think after a while you're not going to be feeling much.

>> No.23255369

>>23255109
theres not coming back ever anon.

>> No.23255400

>>23255093
Thank god he didn't experience the twitter era.

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>>23255038
He was so hot at his peak.

>> No.23255487

>>23255062
>there are so many depressed, dandy writers who seem to get those qualities exactly because of their good looks.
>so many
name 19

>> No.23255536

>>23255001
did you forget that there were authors prior to the 20th century? just imagine the types of deaths that authors from ancient, medieval or the early modern period had to suffer.

>> No.23255663

>>23255050
You only believe this as a cope for being ugly

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>>23255001

>> No.23255695

>>23255190
That's fucked up

>> No.23255784

>>23255487
french symbolism was filled with dandys, search them yourself

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>>23255536
Miguel Hernández, for instance.

>> No.23255841
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23255841

I can't believe no one's brought this up yet.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Edgar_Allan_Poe
"Because Poe was found on the day of an election, it was suggested ... that he was the victim of cooping. This was a ballot-box-stuffing scam in which victims were abducted off the street by local 'election gangs', imprisoned in a small room called 'the coop', drugged or forced with alcohol or beatings to get them to comply. The cooping victims were then used as pawns to vote for a political party at multiple locations."

>> No.23256017

>>23255315
>the following year
Between him and Robespiere I'm beginning to wonder why these jacobins sucked so much at suicide

>> No.23256059

>>23255017
That's Dylan Thomas. Jack simply started puking blood and then died.

>> No.23256065

>>23255093
>due to the controversy of receiving the Noble Prize in literature while being a member of the academy himself.
He was a depressive all his like afaik, the circumstances just exacerbated it. I think the effect it had on him is slightly overstated.

>> No.23256076

>>23255315
https://youtu.be/Bn2jEXqLcSQ?si=36rjp-fyMhrX6xRa

>> No.23256079

Edgar Allan Poe died of rabies which is a terrible way to go

>> No.23256136

>>23255487
Lord Byron, Oscar Wilde, Charles Baudelaire, Edgar Allan Poe, Sylvia Plath, Virginia Woolf, Ernest Hemingway, F. Scott Fitzgerald, Tennessee Williams, Truman Capote, Hart Crane, John Berryman, Anne Sexton, John Keats, Percy Bysshe Shelley, Arthur Rimbaud, Paul Verlaine, Yukio Mishima, Jack Kerouac

>> No.23256148

>>23255487
utterly BTFO by >>23256136

>> No.23256157

>>23256136
ChatGPT tier list

>> No.23256188

>>23255225
That's interesting. I didn't know that. Seems in tune with his character.

>> No.23256200

>>23255001
wtf he turned into mac demarco

>> No.23256210

>>23256136
> Charles Baudelaire, Edgar Allan Poe, Sylvia Plath, Virginia Woolf
Not good looking
> Truman Capote, Paul Verlaine
lol kys

>> No.23256224
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23256224

I dont know why he drowned himself in some crummy river. How does one even do that, did he fill his pockets with stones or something? I had a friend die that way and never really understood it

>> No.23256236

>>23256224
https://youtu.be/l4JfHItwoEA?si=jZcCkfMYosBwAFoa&t=69

>> No.23256238

>>23256157
Here's a few more from my read list, take the L anon. Samuel Beckett, Marcel Proust, Henry Michaux, Dazai Osamu, Walter Benjamin, Borges, Susana Soca, Roberto Bolano, Vladimir Nabokov, Allen Ginsberg, Emil Cioran, Albert Camus
>>23256210
Subjective matter

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>>23255001
Pushkin obviously
Getting cucked by your brother in law and then dying in a duel with him is one of the most embarassing things that could happen to a man, it's so bad it sounds like something that would only happen in a movie to some extremely unlucky character like Al Bundy

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>>23255315
>the following year

>> No.23256393

>>23255234
Kafka's last words to his doctor were apparently: "Kill me, or else you are a murderer". Very Kafkaesque desu.

>> No.23256484

>>23256238
You're telling me Ginsberg is good looking?

>> No.23256799

>>23256484
He aged poorly, but in earlier life, why not?

>> No.23257012

Boethius got betrayed by the guy larping as Caesar and wrote a self insert in the Consolation of Philosophy

>> No.23257045

>>23256079
literally refuted >>23255841 brainlet

>> No.23257344

>>23255225
Source?

>> No.23257656

>>23255001
Jack was logos af

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>>23255050
>beautiful people have neither the need nor the inclination for introspection and sensitive reflection, which are necessary qualities for a good writer to possess
So "good" literature is the coping mechanism of ugly people trying to impress pretty people while ultimately only really appealing to other ugly people.

>> No.23258385

Lautreamont died alone with breathing problems during a blackout caused by the first world war.

>> No.23258388

>>23256017
>I'm beginning to wonder why these jacobins sucked so much at suicide
They were cowards.

>> No.23259407

>>23256059
wikipedia says he had a barfight weeks later that caused a hernia and he didn't treat it
this, along with his lifelong alcohol abuse, is probably what fucked him up

>> No.23259417

>>23255050
Here's a fun fact for you anon: everybody is entitled to a good strong jaw, just like everybody is entitled to two eyes, one mouth, one nose, two ears etc regardless of parents.
Why, then, is a good jaw so rare?
Entirely environmental: mouthbreathing from an early age, untreated malocclusions, lack of meat in the diet are all contributing factors to someone's face growing downwards (and therefore not developing the jaw enough) rather than forwards (with a strong jaw).

You didn't lose the genetic lottery, you just had retarded parents that didn't notice you were developing terrible habits that would inevitably fuck you up for life.

Good night!

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>>23255001
Robert E Howard, author of Conan.
You can look up the full detailed story on wikipedia, but basically when he was around 30 year sold his mom died and he shot himself in the head in his car

>> No.23259495

>>23257733
Is this the guy who is spending a ton of money on life extension and turning himself into an old lesbian?

>> No.23259562

>>23255001
why was he so retarded looking

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>>23255001
how do ya go from this

>> No.23260150

>>23255225
>>23255264
I know it sounds like achskshshstually but that's if you hang yourself like a retard without researching it first. If there isn't enough of a jump and tie the noose incorrectly you suffocate to death, but if you do the math properly you just sever your neck vertebrae and die instantly
I have no fucking idea why these hollywood mongoloids hang themselves to a door with a belt when you can shoot yourself in the heart or do a proper hanging
>>23255151
>judy hopps.webm

>> No.23260391

>>23255093
>cutting his stomach open with a pair of scissors
Were they extra blunt scissors too? Talk about overcompensating, god fucking damn

>> No.23260431

>>23255093
Very masculine way to go out, wouldn't expect anything less from the writer of Aniara

>> No.23260441

>>23255663
He's right, there are no Baywatch models in the canon

>> No.23260450

>>23259417
Inane cope, my father has a strong jaw and I inherited it.

>> No.23260528

>>23257045
>The death of Edgar Allan Poe on October 7, 1849, has remained mysterious in regard to both the cause of death and the circumstances leading to it.
How does that refute it

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>>23257344
Autopsy reports. Last line here

>> No.23260549

>>23259566
Men weren't meant to live past 40

>> No.23260560

>>23260549
Nothing wrong with men, it's just that life gets too awful

>> No.23260562

Boethius was tortured and executed in a brutal manner. Origen was also tortured to death. St. Maximus had his tongue and writing hand cut off and kept writing, but died of natural causes.

I recall some lesser known Patristic writer bit his own tongue out after already being tortured for a while for fear that he would lose his nerve and deny Christ, as they were trying to get him to do.

Saint Polycarp was burnt to death without being tied to the stake after claiming that the same God to whom he was going would let him abide the flames without terror.

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>After a student wrote on the blackboard "If Adorno is left in peace, capitalism will never cease", three women students approached the lectern, bared their breasts and scattered flower petals over his head.
Caused the poor guy to have a heart attack. Definitely one of the worst ways to go

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>>23255405
It's funny how they talk about Niel Cassidy and his "hell of a build," and he's a bit above otter mode.

Hell, into the 1990s pic related was a male lead action star/love interest build. Now you gotta be at least 190-200, six pack, to be slightly above twink.

>> No.23260845

>>23255001
I vote for Boethius
>The method of Boethius' execution varies in the sources. He may have been beheaded, clubbed to death, or hanged. It is likely that he was tortured with a rope that was constricted around his head, bludgeoned until his eyes bulged out; then his skull was cracked.

>> No.23261045

>>23255124
Underrated!

>> No.23261067

>>23255093
Nepotism much?

>> No.23261069

>>23258388
French so it checks out

>> No.23261072

>>23260549
Too late for me then

>> No.23261074

>>23260577
Why are women so weird?

>> No.23261097

>>23255001
Ivan Illich. Got glioblastoma and died alone despite his final wish being to die surrounded by his friends

>> No.23261112

>>23255190
So there is justice in this world.

>> No.23261395

After being convicted of homosexuality oscar wilde was sentenced to two years hard labour in his forties which apparently "broke" his health and he died a few years later before the age of fifty. Pretty grim.

>> No.23261443

>>23256210
>Charles Baudelaire, Edgar Allan Poe
>Not good looking
Fuck you

>> No.23261446

>>23255093
gigachad

>> No.23261672

>>23255205
Who ? I'm french I might know him

>> No.23261713

>>23261112
What is your problem with Gramsci

>> No.23261737

>>23260450
That's like saying your father was obese and you inherited.
Having things similar to your father doesn't instantly make them genetic. More likely he passed the same good/shitty habits onto you

>> No.23261739

>>23261737
You don't understand how alleles work.

>> No.23261754

>>23261739
...go on

>> No.23261761

>>23261737
>>23261739
There's both a genetic and an environmental aspect to the development of your jaw.
I don't know why anyone would say that "everyone is genetically entitled to a good strong jaw". That's like saying everyone is entitled to beautiful eyes. You're entitled to have eyes, not beautiful eyes, and in the same way you're entitled to a jaw, not a good strong jaw.
The potential of your jaw is genetically determined, but developing it to its potential does also rely on good tongue posture, nose breathing and masticating hard chewy food

>> No.23261766

>>23261761
beautiful is subjective, a well-developed jaw is not

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>>23255001
Hemingway’s death was likely instantaneous, but I would imagine it was rather messy.

>> No.23261927

>>23255093
Has anyone read this guy? Is he good?

>> No.23261942

>>23261737
That would make sense if you are talking about obesity but not your jaw, which is absolutely genetic and has nothing to do with 'habits'
>but muh mewing
No it's genetic.
Is there anything worse than being an annoying pedant and also being wrong?

>> No.23261960

>>23261942
stick to your cope then I guess