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[Anonymous No.23092061]

>Because the technology is just gonna get better and better and better and better. And it’s gonna get easier and easier, and more and more convenient, and more and more pleasurable, to be alone with images on a screen, given to us by people who do not love us but want our money. Which is all right. In low doses, right? but if that’s the basic main staple of your diet, you’re gonna die. In a meaningful way, you’re going to die.-DFW, 1996.
The normies are doomed with this AI garbage. If you think suicide rates and depression are high now, just you wait.

[Anonymous No.23092088]

Take the Techno Asceticism Pill

[Anonymous No.23092092]

>>23092088
It will be the exact opposite of your gay frogcoaler image...people will primarily use this junk to make pornography

[Anonymous No.23092118]

>>23092061
It’s probably the reason why he self terminated. How are we even supposed to combat this? Perhaps I should learn a new language and move to Eastern Europe.

[Anonymous No.23092170]

>>23092118
Ted K was right

[Anonymous No.23092200]

>>23092092
Society is shifting, from collectivism to individuality, it'll be up to you how you want to spend your time, what you want to watch, people are already living in their own little worlds and this only going to get more extreme. Instead of outside in, it'll be inside out.

[Anonymous No.23092206]

>>23092061
>you’re going to die
tell me something new lol haha :)

[Anonymous No.23092215]

>>23092200
>Randtard can't meaningfully interact with the complexity of the world and reduces the conversation to Cold War era nonsense
Lol

[Anonymous No.23092225]

>>23092200
>It'll be up to you how to spend your time
LMAO

[Anonymous No.23092228]

>>23092215
Serious projection, was it too complex for you?

[Anonymous No.23092233]

>>23092225
You want the government to tell you what to do?

[Anonymous No.23092242]

>>23092228
>No you
Rand's collectivism v. individualism binary is reductive and thereby superficial way to understand major social upheavals brought on by technological changes.

[Anonymous No.23092245]

>>23092233
AI will only increase government power, surveillance and control...it already has

[Anonymous No.23092249]

>>23092242
Why the fuck are you bringing up rand

[Anonymous No.23092253]

>>23092242
I didn't mention Rand, you did, it's you that's being reductive.

[Anonymous No.23092255]

>>23092225
He's a Randtard, anon. They pretend the world boils down to the will of heroic individuals versus the manipulation of collectivistic cartoon villians. They have no line on how such problems arise organically and instead of thinking about the problems they shoehorn ideological catchall terms into the discussion. This fools them into thinking they understand the world and reenforces the self-esteem cult that is Objectivism.

[Anonymous No.23092262]

>>23092255
More projection.

[Anonymous No.23092264]

>>23092249
>>23092253
>collectivism v. individualism had nothing to do with Rand and is just a coincidence
Ok, explain your position clearly without any similarity to the ideas of Any Rand.

[Anonymous No.23092265]

>>23092233
I want the government to tell other people what to do: more specifically I want it to tell them to stop watching porn and playing video games

[Anonymous No.23092269]

>>23092245
You think you could travel half-way across the world living in a tribe thousands of years ago?

[Anonymous No.23092272]

>>23092264
Dunning Kruger. No point explaining something you can't understand.

[Anonymous No.23092276]

>>23092265
The church no longer influences anything.

[Anonymous No.23092279]

>>23092269
He's right. Online conversations are already mediated by algorithm on social media platforms used by the majority of people. Social media democratized information but there are secretive means to amplify or deamplify how such information is interpreted by users.

[Anonymous No.23092282]

>>23092272
>I can't
Called it. Have fun with your self-help cult. Leave the conversations to the adults until you move through your little phase.

[Anonymous No.23092284]

>>23092279
Interacting with retards is not the only way to gather information.

[Anonymous No.23092288]

>>23092282
Bro, did you just learn about Ayn Rand?

[Anonymous No.23092293]

>>23092269
Is that what freedom is? Slaves were moved halfway across the world...

[Anonymous No.23092297]

>>23092293
>were moved
anon...

[Anonymous No.23092298]

>>23092284
No one said it was. However, the way people attain most of their information now comes via social media interactions. On top of this the only way impactful narratives are formed is via the democratization tests offered by social media platforms. Such tests are manipulated not by the public at large but by hidden algorithms that favor certain narratives through the suppression of conversations that prioritize inconvenient facts.

[Anonymous No.23092300]

>>23092061
the Entertainment singularity is near

[Anonymous No.23092301]

>>23092288
If you don't have anything meaningful to add to the conversation beyond dredging up Ayn Rand lolbertarian shit keep your hands still. I'm done with you.

[Anonymous No.23092303]

>>23092301
You are the only that keeps bringing her up, take your meds retard.

[Anonymous No.23092306]

>>23092276
They were bad at it in the first place. That‘s why I want the government to do it.

[Anonymous No.23092309]

>>23092303
>nothing to add
Again, you're free to clearly state your position with no reference to the work of Ayn Rand. You can't. Hopefully this will teach you that you're not buying into your own individualism but rather a collective ideology that retards your understanding of the world. Good luck.

[Anonymous No.23092315]

>>23092061
Good, there are too many people

[Anonymous No.23092316]

>>23092309
It's cool, you obviously don't understand the subject outside her work since you think she invented the concept, don't worry, it's a phase, you'll grow out of it.

[Anonymous No.23092327]

>>23092316
>No you
You're incredibly boring, anon. How about you log off and let the adults have a conversation

[Anonymous No.23092332]

>>23092327
Go ahead, we are waiting for you to say something interesting but instead you seem to be obsessed with telling us how much you love Rand.

[Anonymous No.23092340]

>>23092061
>-ACK

[Anonymous No.23092355]

so my two options are either looking at the screen to numb the pain or go out there and get mocked by women because they only want chad. it's not really a choice and I am already dead. I hope the images on the screen gets better to look at.

[Anonymous No.23092366]

>>23092332
I've already posted about the democratization of information that has taken place due to the rise of social media and how such has been curtailed by the secretive manipulation of narratives by algorithm. If anyone has thoughts on that (including why I'm wrong) they're free to reply to that post. The conversation thread involving you is worthless because you've repeatedly refused to present "your" ideas. Thereby, the entertainment value you offer to the thread is through ridicule (i.e. mocking you for being a retard).

[Anonymous No.23092375]

>>23092315
It's talking about a metaphorical death you Malthusian blockhead...and in any case, AI will have the exact opposite effect. Read Ted K.

[Anonymous No.23092384]

>>23092366
You seem to think Reddit is the entirety of the internet. No wonder you have a hard on for Rand.

[Anonymous No.23092444]

>>23092384
>still nothing to add
I'm not talking about upvotes/downvotes, anon. Twitter is more influential than Reddit and Google has a more obvious/perceptible track record of amplification/deamplification via algorithm (e.g. monetization, shadowbanning posts to prevent certain conversations from taking place, etc). I've never used Reddit but my perception is that it creates tailor-made echochambers moderated through bans (which is a more formal version of Facebook groups).

The above is why "individualism v. collectivism" is naive. In order to have any impression at all in online discourse you need to either have a massive following or direct control over amplification/deamplification. What we're seeing is a messy democratization of public discourse and traditional gatekeepers attempting to force relevance.

[Anonymous No.23092462]

>>23092200
What the fuck holy copius maxius

[Anonymous No.23092469]

>>23092462
Being a doomer just means you're a pussy.

[Anonymous No.23092473]

>>23092469
I'm not a doomer, you're just being a retard

[Anonymous No.23092480]

>>23092444
What a narcissistic little faggot. Why is it so important for people to hear what you have to say? Do you realise none of this existed until a couple decades ago. How old are you?

[Anonymous No.23092483]

>>23092473
Pussy.

[Anonymous No.23092505]

>>23092480
>no response
The cultural shift caused by the advent of social media is ongoing and relatively new. Facebook only goes back to 2003 and Twitter is even newer. Before that, social media was widely made up of disconnected message boards which attracted people who shared interests in a given subject (4chan arguably harkens back to this era but the influence of other platform types, which are much more widely used, is still felt).

I'm sorry you're too retarded to engage in this conversation, anon. Go back to boosting your self-esteem via a largely irrelevant failed Cold War era cult.

[Anonymous No.23092522]

>>23092206
What is reading comprehension? He said in a "meaningful" way, meaning your dead before you know it.

[Anonymous No.23092548]

>>23092061
DFW is my 21st century Socrates

[Anonymous No.23092655]

>>23092061
>if that’s the basic main staple of your diet, you’re gonna die.
I'm gonna die anywayz. I'm not getting off the net. I've accepted life in the hyperreal.

[Anonymous No.23093507]

>>23092655
ESL moment

[Anonymous No.23093536]

>>23092061
>>23092088
>>23092118
>>23092200
>>23092655
me personally i'll just go for a walk with my gf and have cookouts with my family

[Anonymous No.23093560]

>>23092306
the government can't do it properly either, at least not on the national level. local communities need to return.

[Anonymous No.23094408]

>>23092118
Actually, he killed himself because he was suicidal.

[Anonymous No.23094450]

>>23092061
>just gonna get better and better and better and better. And it’s gonna get easier and easier, and more and more convenient, and more and more pleasurable,
What shit writing
I really hope this quote was transcribed from spoken word and not something that was written and green lit.

[Anonymous No.23094514]

>>23092269
>You think you could travel half-way across the world living in a tribe thousands of years ago?

[Anonymous No.23094531]

>>23094408
He wasn't suicidal
He took (prescribed) drugs and had a bad reaction and became suicidal
The crazy thing about anti-depressants is that they can actually make you more depressed

[Anonymous No.23094543]

>>23092118
>Perhaps I should learn a new language and move to Eastern Europe.
What excatly do you hope achieve by that?
t. eastern european

[Anonymous No.23094643]

You have to be a legitimately braindead normalfag to think the internet is making us more ‘individualistic’

[Anonymous No.23094647]

>>23094643
depends on how you use it

[Anonymous No.23094649]

I mean, why is art meaningful to the subject. If it is, you’re the moron.

[Anonymous No.23094651]

>>23094643
I love Mr. Beast

[Anonymous No.23094720]

>>23094643
You only see it that way because you yourself are an unconscious drone who is putty in the hands of the world.

[Anonymous No.23094722]

>>23092061
DFW at his best
It's a shame that his suicide overshadows his statements like these.

[Anonymous No.23094743]

>>23092200
>Society is shifting, from collectivism to individuality
Lol you're about 70 years late to the party there.

[Anonymous No.23094752]

>>23094743
Not at all, we are entering total atomization.

[Anonymous No.23094758]

>>23094752
I would bet money you don't even know what you're trying to say.

[Anonymous No.23094763]

>>23094758
What was complicated about it?

[Anonymous No.23094774]

>>23094763
Lol I don't think unnecessary complexity is your problem.

[Anonymous No.23094777]

>>23094774
So you're just stupid then.

[Anonymous No.23094782]

>>23094777
Be mindful how you project out your own insecurities. It makes you easy to manipulate.

[Anonymous No.23094792]

>>23094782
You mean like the emotional manipulation you're trying now? Desperate.

[Anonymous No.23094953]

>>23094720
No, but the vast majority of people are exactly that in the face of the internet. It obviously doesn’t have to be that way. Your average joe will not use the internet to refine his worldview and learn new things, but to join mental hiveminds and cults essentially.
>I love mr beast

[Anonymous No.23095241]

>>23094953
Pre-internet people were consuming the same content, now people have their own separate unique feeds aligned to their own interests.