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Are Nick Lands works still relevant in 2023? He seems like old hat now

>> No.22831364

>>22831361
More than ever

>> No.22831412

>>22831361

>old hat

Like a fedora?

>> No.22831433

Savage Ecology is more relevant

>> No.22831613

>>22831361
He’s valuable as the ultimate devil’s advocate/baselisk for the worst excesses of nihilism, capitalism and antihumanism. He is a gleeful pessimist, but even pessimists are surprised at how the world turns out to be rather boring and predictable. See: Land’s disappointment when bitcoin followed the very thing it was meant to hedge against. His view of the world is so extreme that it’s easy to overlook the fact that he’s not always correct, that even he can be seduced by an as-yet unrealised world. The future isn’t as certain as he makes it out to be - his idea of the future is only just that, an idea (as long as we think and react fast enough…)

>> No.22833038

i only read 'the dark enlightenment'. where does one start on his older work about technology?

>> No.22833997

>>22833038
Meltdown. his most prescient and poetically rich work.
http://www.ccru.net/swarm1/1_melt.htm

>> No.22834095

>>22831361
He's relevant in that he inspired a new school of thought:
https://effectiveacceleration.tech
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Effective_accelerationism

>> No.22834110

>>22834095
>accelerationism but retarded
wow amazing

>> No.22834140

>>22834095
What atheism does to a mfer

>> No.22834165

>>22834110
>>22834140
If the possibility of AGI is real, it makes sense. It's the only utopia left in a post-utopian society.

>> No.22834172

>>22834165
>it makes sense
only if you have faith in the benevolence of whatever 'intelligence' emerges

>> No.22834176

>>22834172
Not necessarily, see first link:
>We have no affinity for biological humans or even the human mind structure. We are posthumanists in the sense that we recognize the supremacy of higher forms of free energy accumulation over lesser forms of free energy accumulation. We aim to accelerate this process to preserve the light of technocapital.
Not my stance but it's the logical extension of "antihumanism".

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>>22831361
>still relevant in 2023?
>still
His "works" were never relevant.
I'll paypal 100$ to whoever can tell me what fanged noumena is about.

>> No.22835137

>>22831361
he wrote a lot of cool stuff on his blogs in the 2010s like on xenosystems.

>> No.22835148

>>22835137
Can you link a good post?

>> No.22835160

>>22831361
>gets locked out of his X account because he forgot his password
so this is the power of accelerationism...

>> No.22835244

>>22831361
He’s genuinely fun to read and get lost in, I don’t know if I think he’s relevant or right but I enjoy his work. Also it’s clear a lot of nu-politics stems or plays off his work in some way, so I think he’s somewhat influential.

>> No.22835346

He was never relevant? When was he supposed to be relevant? A handful of chantards spamming /lit/ with your work ten years a go doesn't mean you were ever relevant.

>> No.22835420

>>22834969
>I'll paypal 100$ to whoever can tell me what fanged noumena is about.
Justifying the CCRU and his MDMA habit.