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[Anonymous No.22802958]

I want to make a didecaphonic tone poem and I need a text with as many moods as possible (because the point is to show dodecaphony can express everything).

[thefuckingkrork No.22802967]

>>22802958
aww, i'm just posting this because I have no relevancy anymore and am just trying to get some mileage out of this warp of a thing

[Anonymous No.22802970]

>>22802967
Buy ad

[thefuckingkrork No.22802975]

>>22802970
yeah but then what?

the whole point was not to turn it into capitalistic trash

[Anonymous No.22803002]

>>22802975
Not my problem, stop hijacking my thread.

[Anonymous No.22803086]

I was thinking of maybe rereading The Idiot. Would that be good?

[Anonymous No.22804548]

Answer me, you bloody basterds sars!

[Anonymous No.22804626]

So what is a dodecaphonic poem? Google is not really answering the question and just brings up results for serial/atonal music composition. My guess is that it is applying various 12 tone techniques to poetry, perhaps assigning a word to each note of a matrix and then navigating that matrix as you would in the composition (music) technique?

[Anonymous No.22804666]

>>22804626
No, a tone poem is essentially where you take a story and make music for it (see Liszt's Faust Symphony). I want to do this while also employing 12 tone technique but I want as many different dispositions as possible, from joyous to placid to heroic to angry to morose. Even better if there are different settings culturally as well.

[Anonymous No.22804689]

>>22804666
Make a musical version of it rather*

[Anonymous No.22804717]

>>22804666
lol, assumed you were a poetry fag and did not make the connection.

[Anonymous No.22804736]

>>22804717
No, as a matter of fact, I would really rather adapt a novel instead of an epic poem.

[Anonymous No.22804764]

>>22804736
Queneau's Exercises in Style would be fun, not really a novel but we can analyze it as a novel which doing so also has the pleasant side affect of making it more interesting for your needs from a structural standpoint.

[Anonymous No.22804774]

>>22804764
Oh you just gave me an idea! I can use If on a Winter's Night by Calvino!

[Anonymous No.22804787]

>>22804774
I think that requires over simplification and it does not really have the wide range of emotion you are looking for and much of the emotion is stated, not felt. Structurally it is quite interesting for music.

[Anonymous No.22804812]

>>22804787
What do you mean? I seem to recall there even being a chase sequence.

[Anonymous No.22804879]

>>22804812
Sure it has a decent range but Calvino never rips out the readers heart and stomps on it, the emotion is all colored by his analysis of the emotions and those emotions tend towards one end of the spectrum. Personally I find it a no go because I can not see how you can effectively do this without ripping out its metaficional heart and stomping on it, the over simplification I referred too. Can you call it a tone poem of If On A Winter's Night without the metafiction it is built on and even much of the emotional content depends on?

[Anonymous No.22805041]

>>22804879
Well I imagine there are ways to "encode" metafiction into music but in general, music based on a text is going to require some familiarity with the text and must needs be significantly more abstract compared to the text it's based on.

[Anonymous No.22806168]

>>22802958
kek. You just reminded me of this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-pjYGZkwQoo
I wish the best of luck in your endeavors, OP.
Have a bump to help.

[Anonymous No.22806245]

faggot does not understand cadence
austin wins

[Anonymous No.22806296]

>>22802967
I liked it. Was bit memey at parts but it was the point and it suffered for it. But it was fucking fun, keep at it.

[Anonymous No.22806328]

>>22806245
Wut?

[Anonymous No.22806341]

>>22806168
Thanks fren! Wish I could understand Italian (or even Portuguese apparently) tho.