/sffg/ - Science Fiction & Fantasy General

[Anonymous No.22797623]

Wednesday edition.

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[Anonymous No.22797631]

Bakker is King of Fantasy
The history of genre is divided into BB (Before Bakker) and AB (Anno Bakkini)

[Anonymous No.22797668]

>>22797618
I don't think so.

[Anonymous No.22797670]

>>22797668
I disagree (so far). Kellhus's family is way more nuanced than Game of Thrones, etc.

[Anonymous No.22797737]

Remember to don't read bad books.

[Anonymous No.22797748]

does song of ice and fire pick up at all
there's alot of nobles going TWAS for pages

[Anonymous No.22797749]

>>22797575
>GraphicAudio
Only audio books I ever bothered with. Crazy production values.

[Anonymous No.22797750]

What the FUCK did I just read?

[Anonymous No.22797780]

Still the greatest nu-wave SF book of all time

[Anonymous No.22797811]

>>22797749
Sounds like goyslop

[Anonymous No.22797843]

>Oh my gosh is that the newest Brando Sando novel told in an even more soi voice than my own with people crumpling paper and blowing wind in the microphone? Take my heccin money!

[Anonymous No.22797866]

>>22797843
he truly is the marvel of fantasy and approachable to people

[Anonymous No.22797883]

>>22797843
as always, those who cannot create feel an unthinking, seething envy to those who can

[Anonymous No.22797886]

>>22797750
Tried to read this a LONG time ago as a kid. All I remember is a character eating duck, or something, couldn't finish it.

[Anonymous No.22797895]

>>22797631
I btfo'ed OP so hard he has to start every thread with a chant now

[Anonymous No.22797901]

Genuinely incredible that people here will shit on the mere existence of "romantasy" but "harem fantasy" passes on unremarked even though it's the exact same kind of slop, just marketed to and written by incels.

Just absolutely zero capacity for reflection or thought.

[Anonymous No.22797904]

>>22797886
Even as an adult this book was deceptively difficult, as a kid it'd be borderline incomprehensible.

The whole book is about inference-based build up, gradually raising suspicions of something supernatural for hundreds of pages, and then in the last 15 pages it slams on the gas and turns into Buffy the Vampire Slayer-tier shit. The perspective also keeps switching too much for there to be a real single main character as well.

[Anonymous No.22797944]

>>22797749
S. Craig Zahler (Bone Tomahawk, Dragged Across Concrete) did his own horror one - although he calls it an "audiostate" ...but is essentially the same thing I think? Its got a cast, sound effects, music. Basically a movie for your ears.
Its called The Narrow Caves, and has is Lovecratian horror.
Its free here;
https://audioboom.com/channel/fangoria-presents-the-narrow-caves

[Anonymous No.22797946]

>>22797901
haremcucks are not acceptable either

[Anonymous No.22797991]

>>22797780
Reading it right now and hate it. The protag is an insufferable prick, and most of the book is spent on his whining.
What do people even like about this?

[Anonymous No.22798030]

>>22797991
you've got to get into his mind bro, he's traumatized and is trying to work it all out

[Anonymous No.22798106]

Pic related and the sequel are probably my favourite scifi books.

[Anonymous No.22798140]

>>22798030
But he's always an asshole, even before whatever happens to him.
Also, my previous book was Dying Inside, which did this "asshole protagonist" thing much better, and I still wasn't a big fan. Maybe I'm just not into unlikable asshole protagonists.

[Anonymous No.22798155]

>>22798140
nah man just relax and enjoy it, he's just a normal guy pulled into a shitstorm

[Anonymous No.22798156]

>Plier (Ironside Academy #1) - Jane Washington

>Ironside is more than a regular academy. It’s also the biggest reality TV show in the world … and a very elaborate, very luxurious prison. Their hallowed halls are ruled by the powerful Betas and the middling Omegas, with the plentiful Deltas as their main targets, but this year, the officials are stirring things up.

>Isobel Carter—the only rare Sigma to be accepted—is the first sign. But there are others. Many others. A sudden influx of precious Alphas will turn academy life, and Isobel’s life, upside down. She might be the lowest rung on the ladder, but in order to survive Ironside, where social media is king and consequences are deadly, she will need to make her mark.

>She will need to climb.

>This isn’t a game for the faint of heart, and those who rise should be prepared for a beautiful, brutal fall.

>Beware the pretty posers, because this social media game just got dangerous.

>The Hunger Games collides with America's Got Talent, and you've just been invited to binge it all in high definition. But here's some viewer discretion before you continue:
>This book is a “why choose” romance with as many book boyfriends as enemies, so expect a slow-to-medium burn. If you like your omegaverse, reverse harem, and academy troupes twisted and defiled to stretch your imagination, then this is the book for you!

[Anonymous No.22798332]

>>22798156
This sounds like the kind of coomer schlock that's right up my alley. Here's hoping there isn't a lot of gay sex scenes. There probably will be though, which will be disappointing.

[Anonymous No.22798350]

>>22797901
The people posting their shitty webnovels here don't engage in any conversation with other people, they have carved out their own sub-niche in these threads instead of creating their own thread.

[Anonymous No.22798354]

>>22798332
womancoomer shlock is some other shit though

[Anonymous No.22798404]

>>22797737
The post that saved /sffg/

[Anonymous No.22798417]

>>22797749
I only do unabridged audiobooks. The only GA adaptions I've listened to are graphic novel adaptions (White Sand and Son of Ares). They kind of wind up being the definitive version, which certainly isn't the case on average.

[Anonymous No.22798434]

>>22797901
People shit on haremlit here all the time. The difference is that there are a few people here that read it anyway and will still talk about it despite the abuse but either no one reads romantasy or the ones that do are just thin skinned little girls like you who take it personally when someone insults something they like.

[Anonymous No.22798457]

>>22798354
Womancoomer is the kind I like. It just hits different, probably because I can't form relationships so the idea is always fairly novel to me.

[Anonymous No.22798473]

>>22797748
if by "pick up" you mean when does the ADHD litrpg John Wick shonen shit start, never. Most battles are alluded to rather than described in detail, and the outcomes are usually awful for everyone involved. Almost everything important that happens in the series happens when people are talking to each other and/or committing outright murder in very personal and unpleasant situations.

[Anonymous No.22798523]

>>22797901
>but "harem fantasy" passes on unremarked
Fucking where? Even webnovel readers despise harem.

[Anonymous No.22798545]

xhwrrxAny decent fantasy set underground?

[Anonymous No.22798674]

Worth a read, or YA shite?

[Anonymous No.22798687]

This.

[Anonymous No.22798696]

>>22798687
reddit book

[Anonymous No.22798737]

>>22798545
All I've got

[Anonymous No.22798967]

>almost finished the great ordeal
>Cnaiür back from the dead
Is this where Bakker jumped the shark?

[Anonymous No.22799028]

>>22798967
Was there any reason to believe he was dead?

[Anonymous No.22799103]

/SFFG/ Recommendations:

Read Reverend Insanity, Lord of The Mysteries, Neuromancer, Hyperion, The Prince of Nothing

Also read The Wandering Inn, Between Two Fires, Mother of Learning, Cradle, I Shall Seal the Heavens, A Song of Ice and Fire, The Poppy War.

[Anonymous No.22799109]

/SFFG/ Recommendations: LITRPG Edition

Read Azarinth Healer, Primal Hunter, He Who Fights with Monsters, Dungeon Crawler Carl

Also read System Universe, Dissonance, Defiance of the Fall, Iron Prince.

[Anonymous No.22799175]

Childhood is idolizing Severian.

Adulthood is realizing Cugel makes more sense.

[Anonymous No.22799196]

>>22798696
>>22798687
The reviews are certainly polarized and the Alan Moore endorsement on the cover doesn't bode well. Still, the premise is intriguing.

[Anonymous No.22799198]

>>22799175
I based my entire life around Cugel and I am successful as fuck

[Anonymous No.22799231]

>>22799028
I don't remember the specifics because it's been years since I read the first trilogy, but I'm sure Bakker makes it clear that he is kill.

[Anonymous No.22799337]

Maybe I'm just fatally addicted to copium but the fact that George mentioned on his newest Notablog speaking with his Brit publishers about Winds has to mean something positive right?

[Anonymous No.22799422]

>>22799337
He literally confirmed very recently that he didn't write a single word in the past year.

[Anonymous No.22799424]

>>22799422
That's because he finished it.

[Anonymous No.22799425]

>>22799424
No you retard, he said he finished 1100 pages which is the same number he said last year

[Anonymous No.22799454]

>>22799425
That just means he wrote 1100 more pages this year.

[Anonymous No.22799456]

>>22799337
that fat fuck is never finishing his books, ever.
turns out being a nihilist pervert pig isn't exactly the best thing when you're trying to finish something difficult

[Anonymous No.22799457]

>>22799422
>>22799425
The book is finished.
-G.R.R.M

[Anonymous No.22799466]

>>22797749
they're all abridged, gay shit.

[Anonymous No.22799472]

>>22798967
It bummed me out when the Great Ordeal failed.

[Anonymous No.22799474]

>>22798674
>female author
>female mc
no

[Anonymous No.22799534]

>>22799474
This.
In the trash it goes.

[Anonymous No.22799734]

>>22799472
that's Bakker hitting you with some of his trademark realism

[Anonymous No.22799739]

>>22799474
>>22799534
so female authors aren't even allowed to write about their own gender? you two are clowns.

[Anonymous No.22799748]

>>22799739
You're the clown. You know exactly what we mean and you know we are right. And you are a disingenuous coward

[Anonymous No.22799750]

>>22799739
There's a notorious schizoanon who has a meltdown over any mention of women for any reason. Just ignore him, engaging with him or trying to reason with him as if he were a rational human would be fruitless.

[Anonymous No.22799756]

Sabriel mogs your favorite male MC.

[Anonymous No.22799760]

>>22799739
We know women are, for some reason, "allowed" to write, and we're allowed to not read it.

[Anonymous No.22799765]

>>22799739
Why are you even replying to them, anon?

[Anonymous No.22799772]

>>22799765
He might be new and doesn't know not to interact with the resident incels.

[Anonymous No.22799785]

>>22799231
Are you retarded? The first trilogy ends with Cnaiur killing Moe and riding into sunset to have hot futa sex for 20 years, he was never presumed dead.

[Anonymous No.22799787]

Susanna Clarke
Patricia McKillip
Both great fantasy writers, both women.

[Anonymous No.22799799]

>Patricia "generic YA slop muh lyrical prose" McKillip
>great
Pick one.

[Anonymous No.22799814]

>>22799799
Whoops, I forgot to add another option in there.
>Patricia McGreat Fantasy Writer Killip

[Anonymous No.22800094]

>>22799739
women can't write fantasy without needing to inject degenerate sex scenes, faggots, and minorities into their books.

[Anonymous No.22800115]

>>22800094
little guy got burnt once by following a bait recommendation from /sffg/ and decided to base his entire opinion on female authors on it

[Anonymous No.22800133]

Estrogenpill me on female sff authors

[Anonymous No.22800161]

>>22800133
Aside from the obvious staples like Ursula k le Guin and Anne McCaffrey there is Cj Cherry, James Tiptree Jr, Pat Cadigan, and Connie Willis all of which whos work stands above their femaleness. I say this as a hardcore misogynist.

[Anonymous No.22800171]

Just reread The Hedge Knight and I would sacrifice all of ASOIAF for one more Dunk and Egg novella. They're all so kino, George really excels at shorter form stuff where he can't let the plot grow out of control.

[Anonymous No.22800270]

>>22800115
you are aware most "female" authors
writing modern science fiction and
fantasy are trannies, right?
>>22800161
quit larping.
if you were actually a "hardcore"
misogynist, you wouldn't have read
those female authors.

[Anonymous No.22800276]

>>22800270
So if I were to google "2023 scifi fantasy releases by female authors" and picked the first 10 names, they would be over 50% transgender, right?

[Anonymous No.22800285]

>>22800270
>if you were actually a "hardcore"
>misogynist, you wouldn't have read
>those female authors.

I read them before I was a misogynist, anon. Nobody is born misogynist, hating women is a learned thing like hating bad traffic and other artifacts of a dysfunctional state.

[Anonymous No.22800294]

Ada Palmer seems pretty good for a women

[Anonymous No.22800303]

>>22800285
>once everyone is trans, no one will be!

ehhh

[Anonymous No.22800309]

>>22800270
>you are aware most "female" authors writing modern science fiction and fantasy are trannies, right?
you're wrong, but even if that were the case, I only mentioned female authors, not "female" authors. you inserted trannies into the equation all on your own. going a step further, wouldn't that mean that most of these authors you're getting angry at are actually male? nice self own, anon.

[Anonymous No.22800314]

Books where strong and stuck up women are brutally murdered, tortured or raped?
Think of Cersei being put on her place

[Anonymous No.22800316]

>>22800285
when did you "become" a misogynist?

[Anonymous No.22800317]

>>22800276
yes

[Anonymous No.22800319]

>>22800314
Seconding this request, but with the added caveat that I'd prefer it if the author were female. These kinds of things are always hotter knowing a woman wrote them.

[Anonymous No.22800329]

>>22800314
Ironically, a book called Cersei.

[Anonymous No.22800338]

>>22800316

I couldn't point to any watershed moment. If you pay attention for long enough misogyny just becomes common sense, for anyone.

[Anonymous No.22800340]

>>22800338
so... within the past year?

[Anonymous No.22800351]

>>22800340
Certainly not.

[Anonymous No.22800357]

>>22800317
>Martha Wells
>Leigh Bardugo
>Samantha Shannon
>S.A. Chakraborty
>Misba
>Fonda Lee
>Holly Black
>Xiran Jay Zhao
Uses "they/them" pronouns, but is a basic feminine girl just trying to put a trendy feather in her cap.
>Shelley Parker-Chan
Same as above, but at least puts in the effort of shaving her head.
>Emily Tesh

Zero biological males among the first 10 names I grabbed from a list.

[Anonymous No.22800360]

>>22800357
>Uses "they/them" pronouns
might as well be a tranny.
my point still stands.

[Anonymous No.22800364]

>start new book
>the protagonist is snarky, morally grey and/or have some kind of traumatic past
Not even bottom of the barrel coomer trash are free from this shit what the hell

[Anonymous No.22800375]

>>22800364
You haven't even reached the bottom of the barrel.

[Anonymous No.22800381]

>>22800375
I coom to american guys breeding a bunch of goblin women, isn't this the bottom of the barrel?

[Anonymous No.22800385]

>>22800357
It's a shame that Fonda Lee is part of this retardation too. The Green Bone Saga is extremely good. She's going to have a tough time topping it.

Then again she did force in that whole weird gay plotline for Anden, which was pretty gross in book 2. It's hilarious how the guy who turned him into a faggot later shows up in book 3 for a bit and is like "Who are you again?" and is married with a normal family.

[Anonymous No.22800409]

>>22800381
Wait, what? You what? Huh? To what?

[Anonymous No.22800417]

>>22800360
No it doesn't, because that wasn't even close to half. You said "most "female" authors writing modern science fiction and fantasy are trannies"
20% isn't "most" and if you count them as "female" instead of female, that's... that's actually quite progressive of you, anon. You respect non-binary identities in a way I can't truthfully say I do.

[Anonymous No.22800419]

I always got the impression that Adrian Tchaikovsky was a duck and the more i read children of time the more I understand I was right

[Anonymous No.22800420]

>>22800409
just search for goblin girl on amazon

[Anonymous No.22800447]

>>22800417
There are no female authors writing sci-fi or fantasy. Those who are female just write YA romance.

[Anonymous No.22800462]

>>22800447
All fantasy and sci-fi is YA. Real adults don't read it.

[Anonymous No.22800473]

>>22800161
Just read James Tiptree Jr's wikipedia page, why were all the old science fiction writers so cool? Nowadays all the scifi writers are star wars obsessed bugmen or hacks copypasting the most obvious historical narratives. Even the broads of the science fiction golden age served in the army and had academic careers. Its just unbelievable how much a genre can decline.

[Anonymous No.22800477]

>>22800462
So fucking true.

[Anonymous No.22800478]

>>22800462
Wish I could upvote this epic post.

[Anonymous No.22800548]

>>22797901
Haremlit reader here, it all sucks.

[Anonymous No.22800550]

How big is the average Thelomen Toblekai penis?

[Anonymous No.22800562]

>>22800550
Smaller than mine but bigger than yours.

[Anonymous No.22800646]

I'm about halfway through White Luck Warrior, and just having trouble taking Bakker seriously. The battles are great, and the entire time with the Skin Eaters and Cleric has been fantastic. Cil-Aujas.was amazing.
But man, some of the sexual violence borders on parody. Like when Sorweel was talking about the Sranc literally fucking all the blood out of their victims. Or literally anything from the Skinspy POV.
t's maddeningly inconsistent, to be honest. The scene with the white luck warrior and the high priestess of Yatwer, for example felt completely at home with the cult of a freaky birth goddess..
I'm starting to think that there may be something seriously wrong with Canadians. Or Bakker needed a better editor.

[Anonymous No.22800704]

>>22800646
GREAT
PENDULOUS
PHALLUS

[Anonymous No.22800708]

>>22800419
>Adrian Tchaikovsky was a duck
Like the animal who quacks?

[Anonymous No.22800719]

>>22800704
Exactly.
Or how in the first trilogy when Ikurei tries to fuck his mom and then is like "wait, that's a dick". I legitimately laughed at that.

[Anonymous No.22800742]

>>22800473
AI think it could be a side effect of there being a saturation of sci-fi. When it started there was nothing so it had to be invented wholesale from imagination and burgeoning science. In the year 2024 probably every single person at NASA has watched starwars. Everything is derivative because we are saturated with media.

[Anonymous No.22800773]

>>22798674
>in the tradition of Mists of Avalon
so pedophile sex dungeon?

[Anonymous No.22800818]

Am I crazy for thinking most sword & sorcery isn't very good?
Reading Fafhrd and Mouser and it just isn't doing anything for me. Lankhmar's a brilliant setting but every time they leave it for a story it gets boring.

[Anonymous No.22800841]

>>22800818
Have you read much Conan?

[Anonymous No.22800873]

>>22800381
Well if nothing else you have to respect an anon who knows where he stands.

[Anonymous No.22800884]

>>22800420
There are even audiobooks of this shit. Oh my goodness.

[Anonymous No.22800885]

>>22800550
Assuming all things in proportion, probably double the average size of a human's.

[Anonymous No.22800890]

>>22800550
Started reading book 4 have you? The mechanics of Toblekai raping a human woman are interesting to consider.

[Anonymous No.22800924]

>>22800562
Anons, witness this lie
>>22800885
Impressive indeed
>>22800890
Nearly done in fact, kindle says 75% which is easily finishable tonight. Karsa is my current favorite character now.

[Anonymous No.22800933]

>>22800924
>Karsa is my current favorite character now.
You're gonna like book 7 then.

[Anonymous No.22800965]

>>22800818
Sword and sorcery that focuses on the violence is usually boring as hell. Mouser and Fafhrd are supposed to be these great thieves but they rarely do anything more clever than stab their problems away.

[Anonymous No.22800976]

>>22800873
>>22800884
Goblin girls are the current meta for harmfic. Short bratty girls that sidestep Amazon's ban on loli.

[Anonymous No.22800991]

>>22800646
The constant references to boy-rape in Darkness has already turned me off enough that I'm not scrambling to read the second book. I figured it would only get worse from there.

[Anonymous No.22801005]

Okay, which one do I read and which one do I return to the library.

Anyone actually have an opinion on this?

[Anonymous No.22801008]

>>22800976
What's the finest goblin smut you've read so far?

[Anonymous No.22801011]

>>22801005
Return both

[Anonymous No.22801013]

>>22800818
I didn't enjoy the first Fafhrd and Mouser novel either.

Sword and Sorcery is basically just a code word for dumb action fantasy pulp and most writers who do that don't have the writing chops to make it work.

[Anonymous No.22801017]

>>22797631
The only thing Bakker is king of is gay sex and gay rape.

[Anonymous No.22801033]

>>22801005
AP Text leaves the jokes in that's basically it.
I'd go with that one

[Anonymous No.22801044]

About to read The Unholy Consult, Bakkerbros. Can't believe it's all about to end.... what am I in for?

[Anonymous No.22801056]

>>22800646
>a better editor
Bakker had an editor???

[Anonymous No.22801068]

>>22801005
>Neil Gaiman
I didn't know this guy was an author. himself I thought his job was to write quotes to put on the cover of all the fantasy books

[Anonymous No.22801082]

Reddit Scott Bakker

[Anonymous No.22801161]

>>22801011
I was going to ask people not to say this but I figured if I did, no one would even give me one legitimate answer.
>>22801033
Sounds good I'll go with the AP.
>>22801068
Do you think all authors actually read the books they give blurbs for?

Okay since this thread is nothing by Bakker boys tonight, will the librarians look at me weird if i request they purchase a physical edition of "The Darkness That Comes Before".

I don't want to be that guy who suggested the rape book ya know.

[Anonymous No.22801225]

>mfw it's a bakker thread

[Anonymous No.22801238]

No god series when ?.

[Anonymous No.22801296]

>>22801238
This

[Anonymous No.22801430]

>>22800094
You just described the writings of Bakker, /sffg/'s so-called king of fantasy.

[Anonymous No.22801440]

NO-GOD FUCKING WHEN

[Anonymous No.22801441]

Bakkerfags shill me on why I should read your beloved author so much with minimal spoilers preferably

[Anonymous No.22801446]

>>22801441
you like reading descriptions of curved phalluses

[Anonymous No.22801454]

Recommend me fantasy stories with unicorns in them

[Anonymous No.22801458]

>>22801441
Because nothing else compares. No other author will make you sit back and say "kino..." like bakker

[Anonymous No.22801464]

>>22797780
If you were the anon the recommended this several years ago, thank you.
Love this book.

[Anonymous No.22801484]

>>22801441
>fags
>plural

[Anonymous No.22801508]

>>22801484
Juet read it man why should we spend effort trying to convince you

[Anonymous No.22801540]

>>22801508
You fools type for my amusement, nothing more. Don't delude yourself into thinking otherwise, lest you embarrass yourself even further.

[Anonymous No.22801544]

I'm going to start reading Rothfuss next year. Any thoughts on his work?

[Anonymous No.22801552]

>>22797623
Does anyone else find Wolfe's novels to be cathartic in a way. I feel that they always pay off.

[Anonymous No.22801565]

>>22800161
Curse of Chalion is also nice. Only gave it a shot because people in /stuff/ years ago swore it was good, and it was.

[Anonymous No.22801617]

>>22801552
Most of the time. I just wish he had been able to write the fourth book in the soldier series.
The conclusion to Short Sun hurt.

[Anonymous No.22801622]

>>22801617
The soldier series really did feel like a dropped book series.

[Anonymous No.22801640]

>>22801441
There are many compelling characters. A cuck mage, a gay barbarian, an autistic chosen one, an annoying prince that loves to fuck his mother, a prostitute that secretly loves alien dick.

[Anonymous No.22801651]

>>22800381
This is nowhere near the bottom of the barrel, fampai

[Anonymous No.22801679]

>>22801544
Both books are two of my favorite books of all time. But the series is never going to finish and those books are all your ever going to get. Still worth it to me.

[Anonymous No.22801686]

Someone give me a really good progression fantasy/litrpg book

so far ive read
>Cradle
>Iron Prince
>Mother of learning
And really enjoyed all of them

[Anonymous No.22801690]

>>22797631
>>22799103
>>22799109
>>22800818
>>22801005
>>22801044
>>22801458
>>22801544
>>22801679
Great post anons, very original but just started three body problem and i'm wondering when does it gets good? are the witcher books any good? Only played Witcher 3 and the netflix's series. Just started Eye of the World when does WoT gets good?? Any books like dark souls/berserk/Bloodborne??? Any books like FF/Dragon Quest/Tales of..??!! Any books with N'Wahs?Kvothe is a cuck, will slob Martin ever finish winds of winter??? Abercrombie is Reddit-tier?? Are the dune sequels worth it or should i stop with god emperor of dunc? Should i read the Hyperion sequel???? Did severian fucked his grandma? Is severian a clone? Any books with chinks? Any books like fallout/metro? Any books where the mc gets cucked? Any books where the mc Doesn't get cucked?? Stormlight book 5 when? Will kaladin fuck the fairy?? is the Eisenhorn trilogy a good place to start with W40k??? Or should i watch 4hours YouTube vid about le EPIC lore??? Any books with young petite women? Any books with old thick women? Any books with MANLY men like David Gemmell? Soulcatcher or Lady who is the better waifu? When does malazan gets good?? I didn't finish highschool so i can´t understand Malazan?!?! Any books with chinks??!! When does ASOIAF gets good??!? When does Farseer gets good?? When does lightbringer gets good?? When does codex alera gets good??? When does Lord of The Isles gets good?? Dunsany is king or bakker?? Any books with incest?

[Anonymous No.22801693]

>>22799109
Wait I missed this post, I will try reading some of these. Disregard
>>22801686

[Anonymous No.22801698]

>>22801690
I want to post this next time

[Anonymous No.22801701]

I really like The Vagrant, and the entire series. The whole world is so cool to me.

[Anonymous No.22801730]

>>22801701
>The Vagrant
So basically The Book of Eli but white?

[Anonymous No.22801747]

>>22801730
pls
but seriously this book has one of the most interesting worlds ive read about, especially as it slowly reveals itself in the story and next book. It also gives me a bunch of Dark Souls vibes. Can heartily reccomend.

[Anonymous No.22801753]

>>22801622
>>22801617
>Wolfe's Soldier series
The Latro one? I gave it an honest try but it was just 50 First Dates but old timey. Not really my thing.

[Anonymous No.22801755]

>>22801690
I honestly miss the time ~5+ years ago, before the ritualposter spam, when people had sincere arguments over Lady v. Catcher's relative cuteness.

[Anonymous No.22801773]

>>22801753
Latro series is my favorite. Io cunny is the greatest daughter wife.

[Anonymous No.22801867]

>>22799756
it's a story for children
but I liked it (as a child)
and obviously author is male

[Anonymous No.22801892]

>>22801747
seems kinda cool, thanks for the rec anon

[Anonymous No.22801969]

>>22798545
If you're down for YA I highly recommend Suzanne Collins 'Gregor the Overlander' quintet. This is the series she wrote before Hunger games and it's way better. Darker, grittier, lots of cave exploration too on giant bats. It's pretty awesome

[Anonymous No.22801971]

>>22799756
I'm on Abhorsen right now. Sabriel is a little bitch. I like Lirael as a character much more. Is Goldenhand or Clariel worth reading ? or the new prequel book

[Anonymous No.22802087]

>>22801464
Kek I probably was, I'm a one trick pony

[Anonymous No.22802170]

Reading the first book in the Petralist series and it's an odd choice to make everyone on the protagonist's side incredibly incompetent and make the enemy invaders competent. Also the protagonist, despite having powers, keeps getting captured by someone who doesn't, it's very funny.

[Anonymous No.22802226]

>>22801969
>If you're down for YA
Never down for YA, sorry anon. Thanks all the same.

[Anonymous No.22802278]

>>22802226
There's the occasional decent YA, but if anything it's in the category by accident.

[Anonymous No.22802336]

YA is kind of a meaningless label, honestly. It's fantasy for kids but occasionally there's mentions of sex or whatever.

[Anonymous No.22802350]

>>22798106
Read the Reality Dysfunction by Hamilton about 4 years ago and i still vividly remembered that highly pornographic alien slug sex/snuff scene that was serveral pages long, it's seared into my mind i think.

I've avoided his work ever since.

[Anonymous No.22802358]

Whats your personal never ever that hurts the most, for me its pic related

[Anonymous No.22802383]

started reading supper supportive. interesting vibe. seems to have a lot of mystery elements to it, at least in that the MC seems to be of the intelligent, problem solving kind.

>>22789332
>TWI bros
>What do we think of the Solstice so far
was preddy gud. not the best the series has ever given but pretty solid. looking forward to the conclusion now.
the horns chapter felt a bit drawn out by the end though. but it still had some memorable moments.
i'm shipping yvlon and colth now.

[Anonymous No.22802410]

I am enjoying Darkness That Comes Before
but I haven't got to any of the weird rapey stuff yet
but hopefully it stays this good

[Anonymous No.22802416]

>>22802410
I remember /sffg/ saying there are catgirls in it for some reason so I guess be prepared for catgirls.
I skipped to Aspect-Emperor and I might go back to see Kellhus's origin story if I'm not burnt out from 4 books.

[Anonymous No.22802422]

>>22802416
>so I guess be prepared for catgirls.
I'm already reading it, anon, no need to convince me further.
>I skipped to Aspect-Emperor
My autism would never allow me to skip books like that. Were you not confused?

[Anonymous No.22802424]

>>22802422
>Were you not confused?
Nah it's a 20 year time skip and Kellhus's family and all the factions get introduced well enough.

[Anonymous No.22802429]

What's the opinion of /sffg/ on The Wheel of Time? I've read the first 2 books, and it felt "slow"? That and most of the characters are infuriating. I get that they are teens but come on

[Anonymous No.22802432]

>>22802424
Out of interest what put you off finishing the original trilogy?

[Anonymous No.22802434]

>>22802432
My love for "in medias res"

[Anonymous No.22802438]

>>22802434
kek fair enough

[Anonymous No.22802453]

>>22802429
>>22801690

[Anonymous No.22802456]

>>22802429
Im currently on book 4, liking it so far. Some of the female characters are annoying cunts, but they got their shit pushed in often enough, that i dont mind it

[Anonymous No.22802471]

>>22802358
So you think the tentative 2024 release is a pipe dream?

[Anonymous No.22802476]

>>22802471
Ill believe it when i have the book in my hands. Im sick of any day now bullshit that multiple authors keep repeating

[Anonymous No.22802493]

>>22801971
>Sabriel is a little bitch
Say that to my face faggot not online see what happens

[Anonymous No.22802937]

[Anonymous No.22802947]

>>22801690
kek, have a (You)

[Anonymous No.22803103]

>>22802410
So you haven't read past the prologue?

[Anonymous No.22803156]

Whoever said that Bakker 1 doesn't have the word "cunny" was wrong

[Anonymous No.22803261]

A few years ago people didnt really like bakker in these threads. Im glad everyone has finally come around and recognize kino

[Anonymous No.22803274]

>nobody cared about my favorite author until 4 years ago when I began spamming nonfuckingstop
whoda thunk it

[Anonymous No.22803315]

>>22802383
>not the best the series has ever given but pretty solid. looking forward to the conclusion now.
Yeah this has been my overall feeling of this volume so far desu
Just a transitory phase (Erin getting back to full health, people traveling to the New Lands, the new players gaining power and the slight skimming of old characters and plotlines) until the we're back to the (real) good stuff

[Anonymous No.22803373]

>>22801430
Have you read Bakker? He has zero alphabet soup characters.

[Anonymous No.22803374]

>>22803274
It's so.obviously artificial. I posted here for years and he was discussed about as much as comparable authors, a few posts once every couple of threads or so, more if people were asking about GRI. Then I leave for a year, come back, and he's being namedropped 50 times per thread. Did he release anything new in that time? No. /sffg/ is slow enough that 1-3 sufficiently determined shills can change the nature of the general, and that's what happened here.

[Anonymous No.22803380]

>>22803274
I've been reading Bakker 4 years ago and I've been a /lit/izen for much less time, probably around a year. Second Apocalypse is popular, it is talked about everywhere.

[Anonymous No.22803386]

>>22803380
I dont think its popular.
Sanderson is popular
Joe Abercrombie is popular
Mark Lawrence is popular.

If you ask the average fantasy fan about Bakker they probably wouldnt know who he is or have heard about The Prince Of Nothing

[Anonymous No.22803387]

>>22803380
>Second Apocalypse is popular, it is talked about everywhere.
fucking lol, you won't even find Bakker's books carried in most book retailers and he's not even the first person who comes up if you search the name "bakker". He's a literal who that some autist has been spamming in these threads since 2019

[Anonymous No.22803391]

>>22802429
I loved Wheel of Time starting with book 2. Or the very end of book 1, maybe, which led into Book 2, basically the start of the Dragon Reborn plot is peak WoT. I don't find anything about the first few books of WoT to be slow, what is your frame of reference for calling it that?

[Anonymous No.22803393]

>>22803387
Sorry bro just because its not popular doesnt mean its not good. You can pretend its just "one autist" but there are more people in these threads that like bakkers books than dislike them.

[Anonymous No.22803394]

>>22803380
>I've been a /lit/izen for much less time
yeah you're clearly a newfag
>it is talked about everywhere
lol

[Anonymous No.22803396]

>>22801544
You shouldn't bother. He's only written 2 novels and he'll never finish the series he started.

[Anonymous No.22803399]

>>22803393
You literally just claimed he was popular and is "talked about everywhere" you retard. He's neither. And yes, it's just one autist (you), who has been spamming since 2019. We've already done the legwork in the archives to prove it.

[Anonymous No.22803405]

>>22803380
>Second Apocalypse is popular
>>22803393
>Sorry bro just because its not popular


I genuinely hope natural selection takes you out irl.

[Anonymous No.22803406]

>>22803399
I literally didnt, I literally said he was not popular.
>>22803386
is literally me.
Keep being a schizo though and pretending people in the thread dont like it.

[Anonymous No.22803408]

This is pretty good... Gets going right from the first paragraph...

[Anonymous No.22803411]

>>22803386
>>22803387
I don't believe your schizo theory. 4chan loves things like Bakker's works and most of the shills in generals are imaginary.

[Anonymous No.22803413]

>samefagging this hard

[Anonymous No.22803570]

>>22802416
>skipped to aspect emperor
Absolute madman. Were you able to follow storylines at all?

[Anonymous No.22803576]

>>22802429
>>22801690

[Anonymous No.22803588]

>>22803380
It really isn't popular. Definitely fits into the "cult following" category. I've never seen Bakker's books in a book shop. Even the specialist genre/spec-lit bookshop in my city doesn't have it. I asked the dude to order one of his books in for me, and he wasn't even familiar with it (and this is a fantasy/sci-fi/crime oldfag who literally sells these niche books for a living)

[Anonymous No.22803612]

> There were 1,674 valid ballots cast
Really not that many at all. It's a mystery why anyone cares at all about that Hugo awards as an alleged fan award. It's really only the SFF convention circuit people and literally no one else.

https://file770.com/inside-the-2023-hugo-finalist-voting-statistics/#

[Anonymous No.22803702]

>>22803612
lmao, fewer votes than a poll I did on who the protag should fuck next in a cringe anime smut fanfic I wrote. Nice award you got there, Hugos.

[Anonymous No.22803714]

>>22803612
How many times are we going to sort of discuss modern fantasy awards? They're beyond a fucking joke at this point. Ignore them all.

[Anonymous No.22803745]

>>22803702
>calls his own anime smut fanfic "cringe"
I can't respect you.

[Anonymous No.22803752]

Less talking more posting books with incest

[Anonymous No.22803756]

>>22797623

Read all 4 of these books earlier this year, and I must say, it was quite enjoyable. Main character being insanely horny brought it down a bit for me, but it was still damn near a 10/10 experience. Highly reccomend

[Anonymous No.22803761]

>>22803756
Oops, forgot the image. Book of the New Sun

[Anonymous No.22803803]

Finished The Dark Forest last night. Was very impressed at the original concepts. Even though character development was lacking I couldn't put it down because I had to see what original idea was to be found in on the next page. Deaths' End has started at a bit slower pace. Does it pick up and match the highs of the former?

[Anonymous No.22803812]

Bakker seethe thread

[Anonymous No.22803826]

>>22803315
definitely agree on the transitionary phase. a lot of the volume was also trying to get the reader acclimated to erin being a bigger power now on the world stage. which is understandable in hindsight. it does get me excited for the future.

dunno how to feel about the killoffs, i hope jelaqua makes it at least. though we might see some of them again in hellste, and maybe that was even the intention for this.

the upcoming climax has a lot of potential. i'm looking forward to it.

[Anonymous No.22803830]

Tourist, trying to get a book for someone who doesn't read that much. Any recommendations for fantasy stories that are short ish. Looking for something more like a tale, not really world building, something that could entice a person's zoomer brain to open it and not let it sit on his shelf. Shit post, shit question, don't know where else to ask.

[Anonymous No.22803915]

>>22803826
You know I was really glad there was actually a decent character cull
But then we find out about Hellste and all that and ehhhh I feel like almost none of the deaths are gonna be the end of these characters, which I really look forward since I really liked some of the people that died, like Bethal and Halrac, but there's wayyyy too many side plotlines that have been completely halted/forgotten with their related characters losing most of their character identity and just becoming a "cool" guest of the inn that don't really do much anymore
AND on top of that we keep getting new players on the board
Like now the whole House of Reinhart is on, the whole thing with the pirates, we've been introduced to so many Terandria factions, drowned people
I still have really high hopes for the New Lands

>>22803830
The Hobbit is probably a good starting point, comfykino, short, easy to read

[Anonymous No.22804045]

>>22801690
>Any books with old thick women? Any books with MANLY men like David Gemmell? Any books with incest?
those three are always me btw

[Anonymous No.22804066]

>>22803756
You can't have a story thematically all about the continuation of the human race without also having some procreation.

[Anonymous No.22804069]

>>22803915
intellectually i know it was necessary. i just thought it was ruthless. but then again it was foreshadowed for months that people would die. ultimatively i'm not too miffed about it. the way ulinde went was kinda rought though.
also i thought bethal wasn't confirmed as dead, but maybe i'm wrong.

[Anonymous No.22804078]

>This is how it feels to be Anakin Skywalker, forever:

>You can hear yourself breathing. It comes hard, and harsh, and it scrapes nerves already raw, but you cannot stop it. You can never stop it. You cannot even slow it down. You don't even have lungs anymore. Mechanisms hardwired into your chest breathe for you. They will pump oxygen into your bloodstream, forever.

>You remember the dragon that you brought Vader forth from your heart to slay. You remember the cold venom in Vader's blood. You remember the furnace of Vader's fury, and the black hatred of seizing her throat to silence her lying mouth. There is one blazing moment in which you finally understand that there was no dragon. That there was no Vader. That there was only you. Only Anakin Skywalker.

>That it was all you. Is you. Only you.

>You did it. You killed her. You killed her because, finally, when you could have saved her, when you could have gone away with her, when you could have been thinking about her, you were only thinking about yourself. It is in this blazing moment that you finally understand the trap of the dark side, the final cruelty of the Sith; because now your self is all you will ever have.

>And you rage and scream and reach through the Force to crush the shadow who has destroyed you, but you are so far less now than what you were, you are more than half machine, you are like a painter who has gone blind, a composer gone deaf, you can remember where the power was but the power you can touch is only a memory, and so with all your world-destroying fury it is only droids around you that implode, and equipment, and the table on which you were strapped shatters, and in the end, you cannot touch the shadow.

>In the end, you do not even want to. In the end, the shadow is all you have left. Because the shadow understands you, the shadow forgives you, the shadow gathers you unto itself.

>Within your furnace heart, you burn in your own flame.

>This is how it feels to be Anakin Skywalker, forever.

Recs with prose like this?

[Anonymous No.22804092]

I'm worried that my fantasy book won't go down well with most people. It's decently written for a first book with its strong poitns being the characters established within, but after reading through the first draft it seems there's not too many fantastical elements in the novel; it reads more like a historical fiction story set in a fictional world, with the closest thing of a genre staple being a sorcerer-emperor (background character) and a fantasy beast

how do I fix this

[Anonymous No.22804113]

>>22804092
who cares what genre it is

[Anonymous No.22804130]

>>22804092
guy gavriel kay does this and he's considered one of the best living fantasy authors

[Anonymous No.22804146]

>>22804092
Game of Thrones exists
Many other similar sorts do

[Anonymous No.22804247]

>>22802226
laughing because of all the good books you will miss out on with that elitist attitude.

[Anonymous No.22804249]

malazan sure does have a lot of strong independent girlbosses

[Anonymous No.22804278]

>>22804249
But it also has a ton of strong independent malebosses too

[Anonymous No.22804369]

>>22804092
>how do I fix this
don't make the mistake of fixing a problem that doesn't exist. Get other people to read it first before you make a major change like that

[Anonymous No.22804442]

>>22804078
hmm...idk if the prose is the same since it's been a while since I've read it, but the books about Darth Bane are definitely worth a read. Those first two books are fucking awesome, haven't read the third, though.

[Anonymous No.22804460]

>>22804249
A couple of them also get raped pretty badly for trying to girlboss at the wrong time. As far as I know none of the male badasses get raped in Malazan.

[Anonymous No.22804464]

>>22804249
and most of them have BIG asses (thank god!)

[Anonymous No.22804509]

>>22804092
Sounds like you're making up reasons not to submit it to a publisher.

[Anonymous No.22804699]

>>22802358
https://www.moutons-electriques.fr/english-1
it's been in preparation of a translation for like 5 years now

[Anonymous No.22804702]

>>22803380
I leaked one of the bakker sequels here and I don't even like him

[Anonymous No.22804798]

>>22804699
French is easy as fuck. You could've been reading it in its original language 3-4 years ago depending on how dedicated you were to studying it.

[Anonymous No.22804830]

I've about 25% left in The Rise of Endymion. It sucks, but I can see why lit would love the series
>Catholicism... in space!
>pedophile main character (in the last two books)
>cucked main character (in the last two books)

[Anonymous No.22804831]

Are the Malazan books by Erickson's buddy worth reading? I was thinking of rereading Malazan but I never touched the other books last time. I remember a pretty major incident being mentioned in a later Malazan book and thought it was strange how Erickson didn't even cover it's impact on the story.

[Anonymous No.22804837]

>>22803756
>>22803761
>>22804078
>>22804830
>>22804831
see >>22801690

[Anonymous No.22804843]

>>22804837
Not reading your word salad, schizo

[Anonymous No.22804870]

>>22803745
If you can't look back on anything you did years ago and acknowledge that it was cringe, you are probably still in your peak cringe phase.

[Anonymous No.22804873]

>>22804870
What if I think it's cringe as I'm doing it, and I still do it anyway?

[Anonymous No.22804884]

>>22804830
/lit/ only likes the first two books though. I'm not fond of the Endymion ones either, partially because of the Catholicism elements, I think he goobers around with Catholic theology in ways that could never happen. Also the ending is basically the goofy hippy version of End of Evangelion. No thanks.

[Anonymous No.22804895]

>>22804884
I'm protestant, but I was drawn in by the space pilgrimage thing in the first two books. I liked the first book, tolerated the second, and read the last two because I'm autistic about completion. The last two books should have been their own series.

[Anonymous No.22804898]

>>22804460
I think they should. Not gay or anything, just think it makes sense as an interrogation technique. Big thing is you want the captive mentally off balance, doubting themselves, doubting their allies, doubting their beliefs. Shocked and disoriented. If a woman gets captured she basically knows rape is coming, so she can mentally prepare herself for it somewhat. Comes as less of a shock and doesn't necessarily upend her self-image. If anything it might be more of a mindfuck to act like she's not good enough for a dicking. But a real badass guy? He's thinking about resisting a beating or some torture or whatever. Dude doesn't suspect for a moment that you're gonna split them cheeks. Once you do it, is he still a badass, or even a man?

I just think it's the logical thing to do. It's probably why the bad guys always lose in fantasy books, they're not raping heroes enough.

[Anonymous No.22804994]

someone please motivates me to keep reading Mother of Learning vol.2
I am around 28% through it (still training with the priest).
I feel like this is going nowhere, so boring.
I took a break and read the entirety of The Young Brewmaster’s Adventure in like 3 days (7 vol.)

[Anonymous No.22804997]

Does more literary fantasy even get published in the fantasy ghetto any more?

[Anonymous No.22805074]

>>22804997
Independently, yes.

[Anonymous No.22805077]

Is the "Shadow & Claw" version of New Sun-saga-whatever good?
Usually I much prefer buying just the original standalone versions but it's hard to find a version of Shadow of the Torturer without a godawful cover.

[Anonymous No.22805111]

>>22804994
>Reading WEBnovels
Do zoomers really...?

[Anonymous No.22805150]

>>22804898
Homosexuality and homosexualacts do not apply to protagonists, neither for giving nor receiving. That's a basic thing, you can't do it and then expect men to read your book.

[Anonymous No.22805155]

>>22805111
It's not much different from reading random genre fiction books from the store.

[Anonymous No.22805174]

>>22805150
based

[Anonymous No.22805241]

>>22801686
I think it qualifies as progression fantasy even though it is decidedly NOT litrpg. This book series is excellent, I think.

[Anonymous No.22805242]

>>22799109
I guess I'm out of my LitRPG phase since I've run out of books (I've not read or finished all of these but I've become disenchanted with those I've started and the genre overall). I'm think I'm moving into my Magical Realism era.

[Anonymous No.22805246]

>>22801686
Read I Shall Seal The Heavens, Lord of the Mysteries, Reverend Insanity. In that order imo.

[Anonymous No.22805253]

>>22799756
I read this last year, it was the 25th anniversary edition in hard cover. I was homeless and would read it bit by bit by visiting the library every day I could. I liked it. Should get around to reading some of the other ones next year (I'm not homeless atm and I've got a fat stack of mangas and other fantasies on a coffee table that I'm tearing through).

[Anonymous No.22805256]

>>22804092
Do you have an editor yet?

[Anonymous No.22805258]

>Hammerwing finally released last month
>no rip of it anywhere

[Anonymous No.22805266]

>>22805258
>only A Thousand Li book 8 in epub I can find is fucked up

[Anonymous No.22805267]

>>22805258
It's free with Kindle Unlimited.

[Anonymous No.22805277]

>>22805266
The retail version of book 8 that's on mobilism is messed up?

[Anonymous No.22805397]

If you were a wizard what type of magic would you specialize in?

I'd probably pick healing magic. Everyone needs healing sometimes.

[Anonymous No.22805402]

>>22805077
It's good but it's only the 2/5 of the story so it's only 2/5 as good.

[Anonymous No.22805413]

>>22805397
Summoning/necromancy. The most broken and most developable type of magic. Just think about it, you only need one spell to summon come cleric creature or a horse.

[Anonymous No.22805430]

>>22805397
niggamancy

[Anonymous No.22805445]

>>22804078
The rest of stover's novels. Start with Shatterpoint, then read Heroes Die.

[Anonymous No.22805448]

>>22805397
all of them

[Anonymous No.22805456]

Does anyone know of a pirate themed fantasy/horror ish series/book? Been craving something similar to Pirates of the caribbean vibe but if possible darker/horror, but anything similar to pirates in general is what im looking for.

[Anonymous No.22805465]

>>22805456
Aditionally On Blue's Waters

[Anonymous No.22805469]

>>22805456
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pirate_Freedom

[Anonymous No.22805472]

>>22805448

[Anonymous No.22805478]

Glenn Cook wrote a few pirate stories in this anthology.

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/3432100-an-empire-unacquainted-with-defeat

[Anonymous No.22805507]

>>22800171
nothing really compares to grrm's writings, if you have not already, recommend you checking out his 1000 world stories, his take is quite unique and cannot be met by reading other authors

[Anonymous No.22805510]

>>22805397
Transfiguration and then live life as an animal in the forest

[Anonymous No.22805517]

>>22805507
If you're talking about fantasy, yes. But his earlier works in science fiction and low fantasy are mediocre.

[Anonymous No.22805528]

>>22805397
all the 5 regular ones:
alchemy
sorcery
wizardry
thermatology
electricity

[Anonymous No.22805529]

>>22805517
which have you read?

[Anonymous No.22805536]

These any good?

[Anonymous No.22805580]

>>22805529
Several. I can't really recall everything by name. Maybe ~7 short stories, one or two novellas. Perhaps the only work I really liked was the one non-ASoIaF novel of his that I've read, Fevre Dream. It's on par with Tales of Dunk and Egg in quality.

[Anonymous No.22805795]

>Alright, new chapter, let's go!
>Uh, let's start with an epigram that sounds cool..."Deception is mearly an adornment for men's chains"
>Wait did Herbert use that one?
>OK, Lord Gerbert of the Ormeal plains cracked the heads of two Sranc to hash, but was subsequently raped to death
>Then the sorcerers burned the Sranc
>Kellhus tells Proyas the losses were all according to keikaku.
>Scott you've done it again! Ok, let's get back to Achamian's Wacky drug trip.

[Anonymous No.22805859]

I'm liking the world Bakker is building, and he is very good at introducing new characters but I have to admit I am not as impressed with the prose as I thought I would be. Maybe anons overhyped it.

[Anonymous No.22805910]

>>22805397
Healing. Because such powers could also be easily turned to harm if you wanted to.

[Anonymous No.22805915]

>>22805478
>mfw he didn't continue The Dragon Never Sleeps
Which is a shame because it has the same kinda open ending the way the first Black Company book had.

[Anonymous No.22805951]

>>22805795
DELETE THIS

[Anonymous No.22806048]

>>22797780
I read this over the last couple days from your post. (spoilers) The ending is pretty fucked. Black holes are scary, especially his adequately put point about still being in the process of killing Karla from her perspective due to the time dilation. His self-prescribed guilt didn’t seem all that warranted given the situation, multiple people ‘pushing the button’ and the alternative being exactly the same outcome, except he dies too… Good book overall. I’m not sure if I want to read deeper into the series, I heard it’s entirely different.

[Anonymous No.22806080]

I'm done with the second book of Amber I'm having a lot of fun with this series but something tells me it feels too dated for a modern audience and only more hardcore sffg fans check it out because of how influential it is. You can really see where modern authors like GRRM or Jim Butcher were inspired by places in it. Tyrion feels like he was a cross between Cugel and Corwin

[Anonymous No.22806088]

The work continues.
Just finished The Door into Summer. Next up, Time for the Stars.

[Anonymous No.22806096]

>>22806080
>too dated for a modern audience
Stop with this Reddit meme

[Anonymous No.22806098]

Is it just me or are sex scenes in books always cringe? Some of these harem smut novels would be better without the smut or constant sex talk that detracts from the good ideas the author has.

[Anonymous No.22806102]

>>22806098
desu senpai sex is cringe

[Anonymous No.22806106]

>>22806098
Depends on the writer and the context of the scene, most sexoo scenes don't do anything for me but sex scenes between older women and younger men makes me rock hard everytime

[Anonymous No.22806145]

>>22806106
just admit you wanna fuck your mom weirdo
a proper man is into little girls

[Anonymous No.22806181]

>>22805795
cope
bakker is king

[Anonymous No.22806194]

Just shipped my latest Cold War novel, but I prefer sci-fi. If anyone has a science fiction manuscript he or she wants edited, reply to this post

[Anonymous No.22806224]

>>22805456
The Confusion is a pretty good pirate yarn. Not fantasy or horror, but certainly dark.

[Anonymous No.22806235]

>>22806098
It's mostly 50/50 but if you're reading a good author they'll be fine.
GGK, Bujold and Kushner all write good ones that actually tell you stuff about the characters from what I remember

[Anonymous No.22806252]

>>22805397
Translocation magic is obviously the most useful and if you're picking based on fantasy survival and/or personal comfort that's obviously the best choice but I think older more folkloric magic is more interesting. Basically witchcraft instead of wizardry if we're going by how older fantasy classifies it.

[Anonymous No.22806285]

>z-lib removed the DMCAed books even from the onion site
Well, I guess we're fucked now.

[Anonymous No.22806337]

>>22806285
libgen?

[Anonymous No.22806357]

>>22805456
On Stranger Tides is what Pirates was based on.

[Anonymous No.22806397]

>>22806252
>Translocation magic is obviously the most useful

You are now a minimum wagie shackled to a ((fantasy)) amazon fulfillment complex

[Anonymous No.22806467]

Suggest good books to me, a retard with commitment issues. I like medium difficulty and generally easy to follow books that are highly plot focused, preferably with glorious scenarios, near certain death scenario, unexpected losses of major characters, mindfuck (Hyperion’s “The Priest” makes a great example of the type I love, and anything dealing with time dilation) and perhaps a little girl character but that’s ummm just a little personal preference! Strong female characters are fine as long as it makes sense within the world and isn’t forced.
Thanks,
Bill M.

[Anonymous No.22806469]

>>22806467
You'd love Sanderson

[Anonymous No.22806483]

>>22806469
He seems more fantasy than scifi? Any particular work by him?

[Anonymous No.22806546]

>>22806467
your show fucking sucks bill maher
and smoking grass is NOT cool

[Anonymous No.22806597]

>>22806145
>little girls
cringe and goypilled
>older curvy ladies
based and HighTestpilled

[Anonymous No.22806718]

>>22806337
it's not the same.....
Curation on z-lib is top notch, libgen can't compare.

[Anonymous No.22806721]

>>22800646
>Sorweel
He gets BLACKED btw

[Anonymous No.22806742]

>>22805795
The great ordeal was metatextual (describes the experience of reading it)

[Anonymous No.22806744]

>>22806742
So the great ordeal failing is an allegory to the book being a failure? epic

[Anonymous No.22806745]

>>22805397
I will be a wizard in 2 years. My PhD will be in Robotics, which makes me a technomancer.

[Anonymous No.22806770]

>>22804898
>doubting themselves
like you're doubting your sexuality?

[Anonymous No.22806773]

>>22806742
>>22806744
Why do I come here? Just to get spoiled?

[Anonymous No.22806776]

>>22806773
Can't get spoiled if you read better books, anon.

[Anonymous No.22806781]

>>22806745
Technomancers are so cool.

[Anonymous No.22806785]

>>22806781
you can become one, too. all you need to do is give up the hope of ever feeling a woman's touch, and get a PhD in robotics.

you can ask me if it's worth it in ~2.5 years

[Anonymous No.22806793]

>bakker
>lot's of man rape, molestation, and pretentiousness
>wolfe
>clever prose, intriguing worldbuilding and nuanced storytelling that needs attention and engagement from the reader
Brutal mogging...

[Anonymous No.22806800]

>>22804249
The entire novel is gruff marines, smug guys with secrets, and tough-as-boys dykes. Thats the entire series.

[Anonymous No.22806804]

>>22806773
There really needs to be a report function for intentional spoilers on spoiler tag boards. He genuinely spoiled the book for me, and now has doubled down on his childish behaviour because it gets him the attention he craves.

[Anonymous No.22806807]

>>22806793
right, wolfe would be more popular if he put more unilaterally consensual mansex in his novels

[Anonymous No.22806814]

>>22806776
I've already read the solar cycle.

[Anonymous No.22806815]

>>22804249
It's a little cringey but not too bad. There are enough women who constantly fuck up to compensate.

[Anonymous No.22806818]

>>22806804
that would be nice but they would never do it. sorry you got spoiled, anon

[Anonymous No.22806826]

>>22806814
Heckin' Wolfe.

[Anonymous No.22806831]

>>22806804
>>22806773
Just continue delaying reading any and all Bakker books until you forget the spoilers, that's what I'm doing anyway.

[Anonymous No.22806839]

>You know nothing of war. War is dark. Black as pitch. It is not a God. It does not laugh or weep. It rewards neither skill not daring. It is not a trial of souls, nor the measure of wills. Even less is it a tool, a means to some womanish end. It is merely the place where the iron bones of the earth meet the hollow bones of men and break them.
Unholiest kino...Bakker really is king.....

[Anonymous No.22806845]

>>22799175
Which version of Cugel? By the end of the stories he realizes that constantly being a two-timing asshole doesn’t really get you anywhere.

[Anonymous No.22806851]

>>22800161
I second these recommendations.

[Anonymous No.22806853]

>>22806826
goddamn right son

[Anonymous No.22806893]

>>22806804
if the book is any good spoilers don't really detract from the experience.

I've actually read quite a few books because I got spoiled on some plot point that made me go
>huh, wonder how that happened

[Anonymous No.22806925]

>>22806893
the specimen complaining about the spoiling is the one doing the spoiling

[Anonymous No.22806928]

>>22800161
God i want to fuck young CJ Cherry so bad

[Anonymous No.22806934]

>>22806839
>a means to some womanish end
What?!? That's it i'm cancelling this bakkerguy!

[Anonymous No.22806949]

>>22806893
>if the book is any good spoilers don't really detract from the experience.
Obvious nonsense, something like The Murder of Roger Ackroyd is still great knowing what happens but it's still diminished from reading it blind.

[Anonymous No.22806956]

>>22806770
You would be instantly mindbroken and would spill everything you know, while crying like a little girl, in the circumstances described. Don't act tough.

[Anonymous No.22806974]

Fuck man watching Achamian totally get cucked at the end of book 2 and entire book 3 is so fucking hard. He even goes back to teaching Kellhus while Kellhus is fucking his girl.

This shit made me feel worse than reading any NTR hentai. Its like a stone in your chest.

[Anonymous No.22807016]

reading house of suns

[Anonymous No.22807149]

>>22807016
finished it last month
pretty meh, enjoyed pushing ice more

[Anonymous No.22807237]

>>22804830
>pedophile main character
Aenea wishes

[Anonymous No.22807247]

Does anyone know what was the name of the book written by some homeless guy that was found after he had died?
Apparently he had been writing some schizo space opera about a galactic federation with a bunch of children as the main protagonists.
Has anyone actually read it?

[Anonymous No.22807334]

God its so funny to read some slop for like 4 hours in a row and be perfectly happy with it only for my brain to immediately point out every problem the moment I stop reading.
>>22807247
Vivian Girls?

[Anonymous No.22807402]

I just found a book that I read as a kid in an old box in my basement. Its House of the Scorpion. I bought it at a book fair in school in about 5th or 6th grade. Thinking about it now its not really a kids book but I really enjoyed it. It has drugs empires taking over countries, Humans being cloned and then used for body parts, people becoming slaves by microtrips inserted into their brains. It was a neat book.

[Anonymous No.22807518]

>>22804249
That's why we call it "reddit"

[Anonymous No.22807530]

>>22804249
They're diverse too.

[Anonymous No.22807548]

>>22806098
Keeping the image of the book by limiting sex to humor or violence is worth more than any coomer audience. So yeah, the author that writes about fucking all the time either doesn't care or doesn't even think himself that his writing merits any actual appreciation.

[Anonymous No.22807748]

mid way through WoT book 10 and while the past few books have been dull the Elayne chapters here may be the dullest shit I have ever read this is torture

[Anonymous No.22807789]

>>22806285
Anna's is the way.

[Anonymous No.22807857]

>>22806098
>Some of these harem smut novels would be better without the smut

[Anonymous No.22808028]

>>22807857
not them but it's true
like Elliott Kay writes a really fun mil scifi series and also a dogshit boring erotica one

[Anonymous No.22808035]

>>22807748
Elayne is such a goddamn bimbo in those later books.
>hurf durf I may be pregnant, royalty, and also have a history of walking into traps, but I insist on personally going to arrest these dark friends personally, based on the information given to me by my extremely trustworthy guard captain whom I just met shortly after arriving in this darkfriend-infested city!

[Anonymous No.22808043]

feels good not reading trash like wheel of gay