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What philosophers have the best writings on female nature?

>> No.22470549

>>22470503
My nigga Shoppy

>> No.22470595

>>22470549
Otto Weingner did it better

>> No.22470598
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>>22470503

>> No.22470600

>>22470595
this woman didn't do reveals or anything

>> No.22470647

>>22470600
She killed herself in 2014

>> No.22470651

>>22470549
sorry, what freedom of speech haha

>> No.22470652
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>>22470503
In "Elsa" I saw, from the commencement, my desired antithesis to Lohengrin,—yet naturally, not so absolute an antithesis as should lie far removed from his own nature, but rather the other half of his being,—the antithesis which is included in his general nature and forms the necessarily longed-for complement of his specific man-hood. Elsa is the Unconscious, the Undeliberate (Unwillkürliche), into which Lohengrin's conscious, deliberate (willkürliche) being yearns to be redeemed; but this yearning, again, is itself the unconscious, undeliberate Necessity in Lohengrin, whereby he feels himself akin to Elsa's being. Through the capability of this "unconscious consciousness," such as I myself now felt alike with Lohengrin, the nature of Woman also—and that precisely as I felt impelled to the faithfullest portrayal of its essence—came to ever clearer understanding in my inner mind. Through this power I succeeded in so completely transferring myself to this female principle, that I came to an entire agreement with its utterance by my loving Elsa. I grew to find her so justified in the final outburst of her jealousy, that from this very outburst I learnt first to thoroughly understand the purely-human element of love; and I suffered deep and actual grief—often welling into bitter tears—as I saw the tragical necessity of the parting, the unavoidable undoing of this pair of lovers. This woman, who with clear foreknowledge rushes on her doom, for sake of Love's imperative behest,—who, amid the ecstasy of adoration, wills yet to lose her all, if so be she cannot all-embrace her loved one; this woman, who in her contact with this Lohengrin, of all men, must founder, and in doing so, must shipwreck her beloved too; this woman, who can love but thus and not otherwise, who, by the very outburst of her jealousy, wakes first from out the thrill of worship into the full reality of Love, and by her wreck reveals its essence to him who had not fathomed it as yet; this glorious woman, before whom Lohengrin must vanish, for reason that his own specific nature could not understand her,—I had found her now: and the random shaft that I had shot towards the treasure dreamt but hitherto unknown, was my own Lohengrin, whom now I must give up as lost; to track more certainly the footsteps of that true Woman-hood, which should one day bring to me and all the world redemption, after Man-hood's egoism, even in its noblest form, had shivered into self-crushed dust before her.—Elsa, the Woman,—Woman hitherto un-understood by me, and understood at last,—that most positive expression of the purest instinct of the senses,—made me a Revolutionary at one blow. She was the Spirit of the Folk, for whose redeeming hand I too, as artist-man, was longing.—

>> No.22470670

>>22470652
I don’t get it what’s he trying to say

Give me tldr

>> No.22470708

>>22470670
This question of Polygamy versus Monogamy thus brings us to the contact of the purely-human with the ever-natural. Superior minds have called Polygamy the more natural state, and the monogamic union a perpetual defiance of Nature. Undoubtedly, polygamous tribes stand nearer to the state of Nature, and, provided no disturbing mixtures intervene, thereby preserve their purity of type with the same success as Nature keeps her breeds of beasts unchanged. Only, a remarkable individuality the polygamous can not beget save under influence of the ideal canon of Monogamy; a force which sometimes exerts its power, through passionate affection and love's loyalty, in the very harems of the Orientals. It is here that the Woman herself is raised above the natural law of sex (das natürliche Gattungsgesetz), to which, in the belief of even the wisest lawgivers, she remained so bound that the Buddha himself thought needful to exclude her from the possibility of saint-hood. It is a beautiful feature in the legend, that shews the Perfect Overcomer prompted to admit the Woman.


However, the process of emancipation of the Woman takes place amid ecstatic throes. Love—Tragedy.

>> No.22470790

>>22470647
Who is she?

>> No.22470844

>>22470503
Not philosopher but Henry de Montherlant

>> No.22470933

>>22470503
Judith Butler

>> No.22471028

>>22470933
That’s a feminist writer lol

>> No.22471101

>>22470708
I don’t get it what’s he trying to say here?

>> No.22471486
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>> No.22471493

>>22470647
le blinding man

>> No.22471505

>>22470503
De Sade.

>> No.22471665

>>22470790
chinese girl who jumped off a balcony after her bf broke up with her

>> No.22471804

>>22470503
None of them. If it involves the slightest amount of logic you have already excluded female contributions. Judith Butler was a lesbian who tried to look man-ish, so she is slightly above a standard female but nowhere near Foucault, some of the best philosophical content generated in history has come from dudes who fuck other dudes just to get the fuck away from females. Let that sink in.

>> No.22472214

>>22471804
Lol

>> No.22472216

>>22471804
Yeah but this post was about men writing about women not female philosophers

>> No.22472766

>>22470598
This. End of. /thread.

>> No.22472768

>>22470503
le future man wins every time. no contest.

>> No.22472771

>>22470503
They are the window dressing of existence. They aren't anything significant or worthwhile in the least to examine. They're there to tend to men, to their offspring and engage in effeminate activities such as upkeep and cooking. Anyone who holds any opinion over such beings that is not indifference or slight contempt at best is quite the retard.

>> No.22472807

>>22472771
Unfathomably based

>> No.22472909

>>22470503
Daoism

>> No.22472968

imagine a philosopher, but she's a black woman

>> No.22472995

>>22472909
How so anon?

>> No.22473030

>>22470549
ahahaha, was my first thought

>> No.22473106
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>>22470503
either of these

>> No.22473110

>>22473106
I don’t get it what’s this in reference to and how does it relate to female nature?

>> No.22473183

>>22470503
She beautiful

>> No.22473220

>>22473110
if you don't get it just give up already anon

>> No.22473282

>>22473220
I also don’t get it enlighten us anon

>> No.22473287

>>22473220
Dude stop being cryptic

>> No.22473706

>>22473110
That they only care about money.

>> No.22473725

>>22471505
Unironically this

>> No.22473740

>>22470598
Giacomo Casanova.

>> No.22473801
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Michel Houellebecq

>> No.22473820

Ninon de Lenclos

>> No.22474176

>>22473740
>>22473820
Any particular works they did?

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>> No.22474188
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>> No.22474308

>>22474179
Lol source? What book is that?

>> No.22474637

>>22474308
A New Dictionary of Quotations on Historical Principles from Ancient and Modern Sources

>> No.22476437
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>>22470503
Esther Vilar

>> No.22476446

>>22474637
Nice

>> No.22476539

>>22474179
This looks familiar

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>>22470503
>ctrl+F “Unwin”
>not found
Come on people, seriously?