/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.22423353]

when he describes how Conan throws some alabaster white bitch over his shoulder i get more aroused than with any of the creepy french pseud shit nerds read and consider world literature.

[Anonymous No.22423355]

>>22423353
>another coomer thread

[Anonymous No.22423356]

>>22423353
Go back to plebbit

[Anonymous No.22423357]

You are getting aroused by text written by a man

[Anonymous No.22423373]

>>22423357
Is it any different to weebs getting aroused by anime grils who were drawn by japanese cucks?

[Anonymous No.22423390]

>>22423373
or any other form of pornography that is financed, thought up, filmed, directed, produced and marketed by jewish men.

>>22423356
i can't they don't believe me that stringbergs miss julie is a romantic comedy

[Anonymous No.22423395]

>>22423390
There is a very real difference between a woman getting fucked in the ass and a cartoon of a woman getting fucked in the ass you know

[Anonymous No.22423404]

>>22423373
The most cameramen, directors, editors who film and produce porn are men, in straight porn usually at least one of the performers is a man.
in an unlikely event that you are a straight male, how do you feel about getting aroused by porn that has been created by mostly men?

[Anonymous No.22423412]

>>22423395
You like ass fucking? are you also into scat?

[Anonymous No.22423417]

>>22423412
There is a very real difference between ass fucking and scat you know

[Anonymous No.22423426]

>>22423417
What's the difference?

[Anonymous No.22423430]

>>22423353
That's not alabaster white

[Anonymous No.22423432]

>>22423404
Also literally every woman was fathered by a man so you are literally aroused by the work of another man's penis.

[Anonymous No.22423441]

>>22423356
Reddit hates Conan because he's racist or has toxic masculinity or something.

[Anonymous No.22423443]

>>22423426
Women exist in the real world, cartoons and poop do not.

[Anonymous No.22423445]

>>22423404
>jewish men

>>22423395
so there is very real difference between a cartoon of a woman getting fucked in the ass and a text that implies that some sort of sexual activities (possibly ass fucking) may take place outside of the texts boundaries...

>>22423430
very observant i don't find this trash artwork exciting either....

[Anonymous No.22423446]

>>22423426
Ass fucking is like getting your dick gripped by 100 hands, scat is just watching some chick poop

[Anonymous No.22423448]

>>22423432
this, every woman carries X chromosome from a man, so when a man has sex with woman it's almost like fucking another man.

[Anonymous No.22423459]

>>22423448
careful young man once u see the man in every woman and that every woman looks like a feminine faggy man with long hair and make up on... there is no coming back from this okay

[Anonymous No.22423461]

>>22423446
do you get a shitdick when ass fucking?

[Sir Duncans Crumbs (His Grace) No.22423473]

>>22423353
to be honest, if you saw Howard on the street and you discovered he was living with his parents and writing musclefic you know what you'd say to him.

ha sorry, just a test post to see if i'm still banned.

l'french

[Anonymous No.22423474]

>>22423459
Senior, has it happened to you?

[Anonymous No.22423495]

>>22423430

[Sir Duncans Crumbs (His Grace) No.22423510]

>>22423459
I blame tranny porn for this. On the other hand 1) the power of make-up is completely broken on me, 2) women have no power at all, 3) i would happily punch a woman in the face, 4) i have discovered boyish girls who reject make-up are superior women in every possible way.

great observation musasa

>>22423446
>Ass fucking is like getting your dick gripped by 100 hands
no it's not, it's more like "ouch, i've torn my penis," and "now we have to smell shit," not worth either hassle.

[Anonymous No.22423514]

>>22423474
possibly... only big booba, round bumda and conan stories can provide temporary relief

[Anonymous No.22423528]

>>22423514
be honest, you saw men in other women and now every twink gives you a boner

[Anonymous No.22423540]

>>22423353
Conan captures something important for modern times as a reflection of repressed and atrophied psychological characteristics of masculinity. Men’s egos are extremely effeminate and cowed by a toxic version of feminism and various managerial techniques. The historical reasons for this are varied but I think generally it was a trade off of for prosperity and technological advancement through cooperation and reason. As complexity and prosperity increased the need for aggression, muscularity, and domination declined. Yet the primal urges of millions of years of evolution rage within man’s collective psyche. It’s one of the reasons women want the strong bad boy who treats them badly rather than the nice Redditor. The formidable ancestors will not be appeased by working in an office organising excel spreadsheets. There is a need for a psychologically whole man to understand then mystical noesis of the flesh. We can’t go to the past nor should we want to but it is necessary to find an outlet to these shadow impulses. That’s why every youngish man should at least try to do things like lifting or Brazilian jujitsu or other such things in order to connect with this part of the biological male experience.

[Anonymous No.22423598]

>>22423540
>go do Brazilian jujitsu
Good advice. Connect with biological male experience by being in extremely close proximity to other males, often putting your hands on them, touching and squeezing their dick and ass, rubbing your cock onto theirs. Do this to experience that wild repressed male instinct.

[Anonymous No.22423656]

>>22423353
Sade isnt supposed to get you aroused you fucking coombrain.

[Anonymous No.22423703]

>>22423598
This man of course is an example of a pornbrained redditor common in our times. People like this who lack normal human sexuality and appreciation of the physical body reduce everything down to mere cooming. He knows he is a physically inferior specimen unable to or unwilling to live a life of senses and so deflects and deflates those who desire to better themselves physically. Like many men with latent homosexual tendencies Anon was probably bullied and a social outcast in his formative early years by his male peers. This is often said to result in an erotic fixation on masculinity. Given that we are on /lit/ it is likely he is a bookish lad predisposed to compensation of physical deficiencies by engaging in pseudo intellectual posturing. A possible reason for such a negatively charged response to a call to physicality. But of course you will have to be a judge of this gentleman of /lit/. Another possible trigger for this avenue of development may have been a devouring mother figure who emasculated him. Only Anon knows the really reason and ir perhaps more likely is unconscious of this psychological complex. I can only reiterate once again that the biological animal impulses towards strength, virility, and vitality should be perused in a constructive way to live a full life.

[Sir Duncans Crumbs (His Grace) No.22423730]

>>22423703
goodness me, you're just vomiting out the symptoms of the society onto whoever catches your eye.

[Anonymous No.22423748]

>>22423540
>>22423598
Blowjob Jutsu sucks my left nuts. Do a real man's martial art like Judo.

[Anonymous No.22423753]

>>22423748
*nut

[Sir Duncans Crumbs (His Grace) No.22423761]

>>22423748
>Judo
the arming of antisocial fat children in middle school to attempt to equal them to stronger children.

Tell me, Judo Master, what do when baseball bat hits face for 3rd time in row? Before learning Judo, it was merely the toilet bowl that was your foe.

[Anonymous No.22423770]

>>22423761
>the arming of antisocial fat children in middle school to attempt to equal them to stronger children.
Wtf are you babbling about?
>Tell me, Judo Master, what do when baseball bat hits face for 3rd time in row?
Shoot you in your brown face, probably.

[Anonymous No.22423773]

>>22423540
interesting and also a good example of the unfortunate naming choice of the shadow or better said of the ill-fitting way the word Schatten translates into english or lets say the images that the word shadow conjures up in the readers mind compared to to Schatten inside a native german speaker. in the german sense the masculine contents (lets pretend the animus possessed female that is universal today doesnt exist for a moment) are more hidden from us today. thats all that schatten implies. its behind you, shrouded in darkness, where your eyes cant see. the word shadow on the other hand implies all this dark triad, sigma male, trickster archetype faggot christianity shit

[Sir Duncans Crumbs (His Grace) No.22423781]

>>22423770
>brown face
lawl, fat judo incel cries out to be gang-banged

[Anonymous No.22423786]

>>22423781
Please don't respond to me anymore because I don't talk with niggers.

[Anonymous No.22423790]

>>22423770
anon is describing what judo education is used for in western countries. in japan its universal physical education and in western europe its used exactly for what anon described to instill confidence in fat unsocial children in elementary school. i know because in university i started doing judo because it was the closest we had for jits in college and all the people were weird as fuck. physically very well rounded though

[Sir Duncans Crumbs (His Grace) No.22423793]

>>22423786
>niggers
no, chadwick, i'm talking about knifing you because you're on the internet pretending people are 'niggers' when you can't think of a real response.

law fatty fatty fatty judo boi, gay boi,
black cock black cock
takin ur girlfreeeen

[Anonymous No.22423794]

>>22423790
Martial arts taught in any primary education can never be accounted as "real martial arts". This doesn't mean anything.

[Anonymous No.22423801]

>>22423793
>pretending
You come up to me with some nigger babble about hitting me with a bat or some bullshit because I said BJJ was garbage. You're a nigger, your posting habits and lack of inhibition makes it obvious.

[Anonymous No.22423805]

>>22423703
Thanks but no, I will rather be a repressed homosexual who never leaves his house, a social outcast with a devouring mother figure than a physically superior specimen living a life of senses, acting on my biological impulses towards strength, virility and vitality by going to a weekly jujitsu class to rub cocks with other virile superior specimens.

[Anonymous No.22423813]

>>22423353
the day you touch a woman you're gonna completely lose your mind

[Anonymous No.22423814]

>>22423510
>it's more like "ouch, i've torn my penis,"
Maybe if you have a weak little baby dick

[Anonymous No.22423824]

>>22423813
nope this happened a few times already. the truth is much more daunting... in order to really lose your mind i think u just have to take prime vagina right there on the spot if u know what i mean... we can't fathom the joys of conquest and spoils of war if u catch my drift

[Anonymous No.22423832]

>>22423824
Honestly man war rape must be hella gay irl

[Sir Duncans Crumbs (His Grace) No.22423842]

>>22423801
>inhibition
ha, wow, you're unusually open about equating social confidence with black people huh? so you're just full on gay or you're afraid to speak IRL? good toknow

>>22423790
>>22423794
this but.. judo is literally for girls and little people. and it doesn't work. you notice the cretin who suggested 'judo' has responded for 3 posts telling me i'm a black person, so you can see the mentality that judo draws.

>>22423814
i'm sorry your parents mutilated your penis, anon. that's the only reason you wouldn't feel anything.

[Anonymous No.22423854]

>>22423353
Have you actually read any REH? Or just read the comics?

[Anonymous No.22423857]

>>22423832
how so? i am not attracted to asians much but thinking of eastward conquest and plating seeds into those mongoloid kazakh hapa teens while their male relatives bleed out in front their yurt sounds way more exciting than whatever modern hubby life can offer me

>>22423842
yeah its judo education itself that gives you a pretty good fitness package... in the college class we used to meet up for normal weightlifting and running as a side activities to rolling around on matts... also judo bros can do basic gymnastics pretty well like walking on your hands, cartwheels and so on. cant say the same about the karate larpers who trained next to us in the same hall

[Anonymous No.22423859]

>>22423824
>nope this happened a few times already. the truth is much more daunting... in order to really lose your mind i think u just have to take prime vagina right there on the spot if u know what i mean
Maybe you just have an ED

[Anonymous No.22423878]

>>22423857
>how so?
Even in your fantasies you're thinking about their male relatives

>>22423832
Ok baby dick

[Anonymous No.22423894]

>>22423878
yes but as dying cucks who can't tell whats worse, dying or hearing the lamentation of their women. also we are a oogamous species and the male body as a product of evolution is objectively nicer too look at just think of all the weird shapes and sizes female nipples can have. no homo though

[Anonymous No.22423900]

>>22423857
>judo bros can do basic gymnastics pretty well like walking on your hands, cartwheels and so on.
for what reason? If you like gymnastics then do gymnastics instead

[Anonymous No.22423905]

>>22423894
Listen man, no matter the context of you're thinking of a chick's dad while you're fucking her, that's gay. And oedipal. And thinking the male form is "objectively" better looking is also gay, but in the most cowardly way. Like seriously man just suck some cock, frot with a twink or something, it'll do you a world of good

[Anonymous No.22423907]

>>22423894
>no homo though
sure bud

[Sir Duncans Crumbs (His Grace) No.22423908]

>>22423824
aw man, you guys are going to be so disappointed when you do have sex. It's literally nothing. Then add to that all the work you (likely) had to put in to get there.

[Sir Duncans Crumbs (His Grace) No.22423915]

>>22423894
>oogamous
explain this new theory, i've never come across it before.

[Anonymous No.22423920]

>>22423908
And you have the gall to say I have no feeling in my dick

[Sir Duncans Crumbs (His Grace) No.22423926]

>>22423920
kshhhh i'm just saying, most women are flaccid and useless, and the orgasm isn't worth it. These guys, or whoever, are acting like they'll have a DMT trip from getting their dick sucked.

again, i'm sorry your parents mutilated you =)

[Anonymous No.22423929]

>>22423908
post-coital tristesse. i had pre-coital frustration the handful of times i saw previously good looking boobs being unwrapped and presented to me in their deformity and bony pancake asses are he worst thing in the universe... worse than genocide

[Anonymous No.22423942]

>>22423926
i just finished reading Plattform by this french imposter of a writer houellebecq. this threat is me melting down about how disappointing this book was.

>DMT trip from getting their dick sucked.
thats exactly how this fraud describes sex. its so boomer and stupid i hate it

[Anonymous No.22423974]

>>22423353
>alabaster white bitch detected

[Anonymous No.22424385]

>>22423730
It was mainly done in jest in the spirit of 4chan frivolity and amusing posturing. However, to immediately associate physical fitness and martial sport with gay sex and especially the word choices used suggests repressed homosexuality.

> “putting your hands on them, touching and squeezing their dick and ass, rubbing your cock onto theirs”

Who could argue that such imagery is not suggestive of conflicted desire? I personally had no such thoughts at all in the original post merely had In mind traditional combat style sports and physical exercise. It also speaks to a larger social pathology of male interaction under our now universal hermeneutic of gay suspicion. In other times male friendship was common and interpolating gay sex between two otherwise normal men would be rather unthinkable. Now we live in a world of the imagination of 14 year old tumbler yaoi fangirls where every sign of male friendship and comradeship is coded as sexual. Is this because of the impoverishment of human relationships in the 21 century or just the wide spread celebration of sodomy as a holy sacrament of neoliberalism? Probably it’s both,

[Anonymous No.22424401]

>>22423773
I slightly disagree, I think the name the shadow is very evocative and poetic. Though I don’t speak German and can’t comment on how that’s translated well or not.

[Sir Duncan Crumb (His Lordship) No.22424437]

>>22423353
Howard modeled Conan off of the Sir Duncan Crumb’s (His Lordship) life, described in minute detail by Sir Duncan Crumb (His Lordship) in his The Adventures of Sir Duncan Crumb (His Lordship).

[Sir Duncans Crumbs (His Grace) No.22424504]

>>22423942
> houellebecq
personally i think there's an effeminate streak to it; like on a biological level, some men are kind of hardwired to be very eager to please women; like the bimbo equivalent in a man.... or it's just coomerism or catholic priest syndrome; i.e. product of not having sex and having built it up so much in the mind.

it's a good argument for william reichs sex therapy: to just get it all out of the system and not end up like that. Fuck, I forget that english authors name; he was a pedophile i think from the 1800's who fell in love with a girl and wrote a story book for her, anyway i imagine that was what his problem was: having built it all up far too much and then never even followed up on it. someone will remember the guys name.
(was it euphemia chalmers he was in love with? maybe not, idk i forget
ed. YES IT WAS, IT WAS JOHN RUSKIN - awful disgusting)

>>22423929
o that's nothing
i remember sucking cold stale bitter milk out of a womans tit, it was pretty sobering.

>>22424385
nah i agree overall, hey you should read ester vilar.

>>22424437
ah what a cad

[Sir Duncans Crumbs (His Grace) No.22424509]

>>22423929
on the same note, a woman seems either has a pigs bottom or a horses bottom.

[Anonymous No.22424529]

>>22423353
You're not a chad for masturbating to pulp novels, OP, although there is an argument for calling you a hipster cumbrain.

[Anonymous No.22425036]

>>22424385
>I personally had no such thoughts at all in the original post merely had In mind traditional combat style sports and physical exercise. It also speaks to a larger social pathology of male interaction under our now universal hermeneutic of gay suspicion. In other times male friendship was common and interpolating gay sex between two otherwise normal men would be rather unthinkable.
when you were grappling with the other man, and his dick inevitably pressed against your body, or when your dick rubbed on his, do you for not even once thought that 'shit, our dicks are pressed against each other hard, this just feels little bit gay' ?
I don't know where you are from or how old you are but in no times of human history this kind of behavior was accepted or considered a part of normal male friendship, with exception of ancient Greece.
You may think that is common and how all good friends interact with each other but it's not the case. There is only one possibility, you and your friends are (latent) homosexuals, you like touching each others private parts but don't want to admit it to yourselves or others, so you disguise it as close contact martial arts training.

[Anonymous No.22425645]

>>22425036
Very curious very curious you know you could simply not train Brazilian jujitsu? However why do you have such a strong reaction towards it? Why did this one word in my comment elicit such a changed response? Why the fantasy of a pressing dicks against men feature so prominently in your mind? Were you one of those boys in school who felt awkward in the gym shower and always kept your clothes on and got flustered every time you saw one of your peers naked? I personally have never had any homosexual attraction to men but neither have I had such strong feelings of what I can only asses as fear coming from you? Sure any kind of wrestling or close contact sports will inevitably involve touching another man but why do you associate it with sex? Do you find American football to be sexual when a player gets tackled do you UFC fighters grappling on the ground make you feel uncomfortable? Perhaps you should asses why you feel so strongly about this but that’s for you to process.

[Anonymous No.22425691]

>>22424504
Thank you for the recommendation you referring to Esther Vilar and her book the Manipulation Man right? Just looking at the synopsis and it seems to be a strange liberal feminist pathologization of basic human sexual behavior. It’s true that women trade sex with men for protection and resources always have always will. Men want sex women want resources that are difficult to obtain. Society is in part built on a web of such trade offs. The only strange thing I can tell of this arrangement are the modern assumptions that men and women are supposed to be egalitarian independent individuals. The entire retarded conflict theory of feminism and now “the red pill” important form Marxism is retarded in my opinion. Life should be understood as a complicated system with each person filling a necessary evolved role and function in society. That doesn’t mean we can’t improve the quality of peoples lives but the idea of things like “patriarchy” seem silly. Also it looks like genuine love, family formation, spirituality, and psychological maturity don’t seem to be mentioned in this book. Maybe I will give it a read if you think it’s worth the time.

[Anonymous No.22425704]

>>22423353
Conan was a chink/MENA/steppe mutt like all Scythians and Cimmerians so who cares

[Anonymous No.22425720]

>>22423824
Well yeah you can't. The valorization of war is retarded because nobody actually likes fighting especially now. It's why you will see many people valorizing mercs but none of them becomes and remains a merc but schizo retards like hotaru maniac living a mundane existence before and after do.

[Anonymous No.22425722]

>>22425704
He was literally an Irish self insert by the author.

[Anonymous No.22425734]

>>22425722
>if I self-insert as an Eskimo then this means the Eskimo is akshually Irish
Sure bud

[Anonymous No.22425743]

>>22425704
He's a cimmerian who are Hyborians who descend from Atlaneans who were a bunch of savage man-apes. But there was nothing Chink/mena/steppe mutt about Cimmerians

[Anonymous No.22425747]

>>22425743
We already have Cimmerian dna anon, they're like less chinked pazyryk scythians.

[Anonymous No.22425842]

>>22425734
The author wrote about how the Cimmerians were supposed to be the ancestors of the Picts and Gales basically Irish and Scottish people. Also you are being a weirdo for trying to /Pol/ post over fantasy schlock.

[Anonymous No.22425849]

>>22425842
>author comes up with retarded theory
who cares lol

[Sir Duncans Crumbs (His Grace) No.22425945]

>>22425691
>Just looking at the synopsis and it seems to be a strange liberal feminist pathologization of basic human sexual behavior
Nooo she caught so much flak over that at the time and it would be unprintable today, but ... there's nothing political to it (maybe the concept would come close to surrogate activities in TK, where he pins the behavior as leftism).

What you were saying about mens friendships not being able to be considered by 'a feminine society' without a sexual element reminded me a lot of Vilars observations of women; the 'friendship' is not computable in a (very spoiled and bad) womans brain as the pieces of society or social aspects central to male friendship (needing reliable back-up, workplace competency, skilled trades, e.g.) just never developed for women with in this case the closest example being a 'yes-person' as 'moral support' with nothing else entering that narrow and very inferior field of view (i.e. a con-artist is indistinguishable from a friend in that field of view).

>pathos, basic behavior
I can summarize her take better - i agree with most of it : 1) women possess the ability to learn (how to be an engineer, e.g.) but they don't because they have a better life living off men; 2) most women know this and consider themselves a superior class, w/ men as perpetual-infants as servants or animals, 3) as a society becomes this way a womans brain atrophies from lack of use (lack of use or lack of experience or 'hard lessons' in ... all the things we learn as men) as men constantly make excuses for her and 'yes-man' to her and infantilize her, 4) this is bad for women because this creates dependency, on the other hand our society has been this way for centuries and elements of it 'seem' hard-coded into mens brains and are anyway enforced as the culture 100% of the time.

and that's all she says.

I think it's very accurate and lots more conclusions naturally follow from this.

[Sir Duncans Crumbs (His Grace) No.22425959]

>>22425691
ed.
also, ^ the key is infantilism via shit culture, that's where the conclusion leads in my opinion; as in the cases made both genders have a propensity to baby each other to a lesser or higher degree. So, for me, I think that's more overarching over gender and refutes the hardcoded gender notion (which differs from culture to culture anyway and isn't locked).

[Anonymous No.22426015]

>>22425945
>1) women possess the ability to learn (how to be an engineer, e.g.) but they don't because they have a better life living off men;
Very few if any women possess the ability to be decent engineers
>2) most women know this and consider themselves a superior class, w/ men as perpetual-infants as servants or animals,
They dont know it, but they consider themselves superior due to solipsism
>3) as a society becomes this way a womans brain atrophies from lack of use (lack of use or lack of experience or 'hard lessons' in ... all the things we learn as men) as men constantly make excuses for her and 'yes-man' to her and infantilize her
Yes, but women love comfort the most so they love this
>4) this is bad for women because this creates dependency,
This isn't bad. Non-dependent women are depressed spinsters dependent on the state
>on the other hand our society has been this way for centuries and elements of it 'seem' hard-coded into mens brains and are anyway enforced as the culture 100% of the time.
Not all of them, just whites. Biggest simp race around

[Sir Duncans Crumbs (His Grace) No.22426045]

>>22423353
>>22425720
>The valorization of war is retarded because nobody actually likes fighting especially now.
people don't fight nowadays; mechanized warfare is not warfare, and 'war' as we knew it ceased to exist when the err.. "bright pants suit" soldier was invented and replaced the citizen militia with his brigandine, maybe his one-shot musket, and his meat cleaver and long fucking spear.

I don't like the barbarian fantasies, as i think about it, because it really does stem from a kind of sheltered ignorance, i.e. this: >>22423473
>if you saw Howard on the street and you discovered he was living with his parents and writing musclefic you know what you'd say to him.
is the author.

And the mentality of that is quite literally the "noble savage" taken out of any valuable context; i.e. for 'value' or education: true warrior societies are not covered in this kind of literature, so at most it's a kind of ... idk it's difficult to think of the right word for it .... 'soft-headed urban escapism' which is cookie-cutter, reinforces the usual crap ("the bad guy is just bad - there is no reason why anything is happening! It is good vs evil!") and it aggrandizes the suicide dash, more than anything, giving the urban conscript the notion that charging screaming and crying into an automatic heavy machinegun is an effective military strategy that wins battles - this is anchored perhaps to some genetic memory in the northern european brain where this was practiced and praised and enforced for millenia (barring romes control over provinces), and never ever won battles - unless it was against other naked screaming barbarians doing suicide dashes of their own.

Ironically this is all 'not military' in it culture, it's babyish and praises ineffective strategies, it anchors to the childish ultimate good vs ultimate evil, and reveals a kind of infantilism in the european psyche in that 'this' image rather than (something better, something real-world and effective) is the staple which lingers in the mind. But I guess you could connect liberty to that, so it's not all bad.

I kind of wonder what or where a 'Conan' would be in history; best example I could think of would be a Varangian Trooper in the Byzantine Golden Age; a berserker mentality but directed and controlled by self-discipline.

[Anonymous No.22426048]

>>22423353
C-c-can I be the alabaster white bitch?

[Anonymous No.22426062]

>>22426045
Decent analysis. It really does look like escapism that nobody actually emulates

[Sir Duncans Crumbs (His Grace) No.22426074]

>>22426015
oh I'm not arguing for 'feminism' (so i won't 'defend' women engineers), my point with that book was that it explains the society and peoples mentalities within the society perfectly. As an accurate lay of the land. You do realize the importance of having accurate maps before setting off on an enterprise, yes?

>they consider themselves superior due to solipsism
Right, and solipsism comes from being coddled; so she's correct in the ultimate cause of that.

Fuck, I will defend women engineers after all. Hahaha - ok: so imagine a woman growing up in a bomb shelter in wasteland with no male excuse-making to shelter her and no bad influence of spoiled women to lead her astray. Do you really think that the woman wouldn't grow up to learn how to use the systems in the bomb shelter and learn to maintain them, etc?Of course she would. The argument or case made is that it's the extremely bad influence of the individual and the society upon the developing psyche. It's something too massive to physically stamp out, so everybody is subject to it, 'but' take a person in isolation and they aren't subject to those same influences. Evidence for this is Other Cultures; many societies exist ad have exited where women were not retarded snobs and had real work that demanded they be intelligent.

In my opinion it's the urban society which spoils and coddles and fills the inhabitant with self-limiting fantasy notions about others; where, in this case, "the yes-man" is the best-friend and "the critic" is the worst enemy.

>Biggest simp race around
i tend to agree. Europe would benefit from Imperial Reconquest in my opinion, be it Roman or Chinese, doesn't matter which.

[Anonymous No.22426112]

>>22426045
>is the author.
Anon Howard did constant street work and literally got into physical fights against other dudes
And he lived with his parents because he wasn't a retarded faggot, which is what all the people who think that you have to move out and waste your money buying some house you have no connection to when you can just stay with your family like a human being is supposed to
"You HAVE to live by yourself and become independent!" was a disaster for America

[Anonymous No.22426118]

>>22426074
Solipsism in women is biological but also enabled by coddling
I fully agree with your example and have seen similar things, but from history we can tell women are not on par with men culturally. There is no civilization ever built by women or with their help. Their capabilities are far more limited just like men can't get preggers
These women become non-retarded, not some kind of leading geniuses. Plenty of examples in ancient times too, with poets and scientists. None of them was actually important

[Anonymous No.22426120]

>>22426045
>it aggrandizes the suicide dash, more than anything, giving the urban conscript the notion that charging screaming and crying into an automatic heavy machinegun is an effective military strategy that wins battles
Did you ever even read Conan? He never does anything like this. He sneaks around and constantly avoids fights and its only when the enemy seems reasonable to fight or when he has no choice that he decides to do so. He never once does anything even slightly resembling a suicide dash. I'm convinced you literally don't know anything about what you're talking about.

[Anonymous No.22426138]

BAP thread
you will always be gay and jewish, costin

[Anonymous No.22426193]

>>22426048
You have a penis don’t you Anon? If you are a man who has sexual fantasies of being dominated by a stronger sexual partner this is likely a sign of psycho sexual disfunction. This paradigm is also seen among some “heterosexual” Zoomer males with the emergent muscle mommy and dommy mommy fetishes. It likely speaks to an underdeveloped ego and feelings of helplessness, inferiority, and weakness. The cure to such feelings is to work on self improvement in a practical and physical sense. If you acquire physical health and social and technical competence these feelings will likely wane. It’s not really your fault and you shouldn’t become guilty or worse morbidly fascinated by them. It’s a product of our certain psychosexual landscape dominated by castrating influences. However, if you choose the road of femininity and passivity you likely not develop the necessary mental and sexual health to navigate the world properly as a man. It’s extremely likely you will either end up alone as a coom goblin addicted to hyperreality and super normal stimuli or a beta male provider attached to a dissatisfied domineering woman.

Of course if you are a woman this is also somewhat problematic as it might indicate feelings of lack of self worth or self respect. However, wanting to be dominated by a stronger partner is within the normal range of female sexuality provided it doesn’t cross over into more bleak territories.

[Anonymous No.22426209]

>>22423857
>how so? i am not attracted to asians much but thinking of eastward conquest and plating seeds into those mongoloid kazakh hapa teens while their male relatives bleed out in front their yurt sounds way more exciting than whatever modern hubby life can offer me
same but for israel

[Anonymous No.22426211]

>>22423824
And suddenly, I remembered, I was browsing four chan dot org

[Anonymous No.22426249]

>>22423540
>The formidable ancestors will not be appeased by working in an office organising excel spreadsheets.
If you're talking about celts and germanics, they lived in small farming and fishing communities with longhouses.

[Anonymous No.22426280]

>>22425945
>>22426015
Again I have not read the book and can not offer any substantive critique but I will say in my opinion the truth is in the middle of these two claims. I think it is not true that women on average can perform certain highly masculine jobs requiring physically or highly analytical ability. Of course this is on average as I have personally known a farm woman who was over six feet tall and was likely capable of lifting a baby cow. Also I have met STEM woman who were great at their profession. Also I think it’s probably true the changing technologic, modes
of production, cultural and political paradigms alter gender roles. Of course underlining physical, psychological, and perhaps spiritual differences constrain and shape these variables. Currently in the west the ideal woman is between a consumable sex object or a replication of a bourgeois liberal man. I think other expression of the feminine Anima archetype are devalued currently. Historically for all of evolutionary history women have been dependent on their tribe, mate, children etc but similarly almost all men are dependent on such thick social bonds just in a different manner. The idea that you could be totally independent and individual is probably a misconception spread by modern enlightenment theories of human nature. I disagree with certain particular points of the Trad movement, although, I have nothing against them that we can return to the previous gender relations paradigm. Historically women were engaged in labour from foraging, agriculture production, small domestic industries and alike. The industrial mode of production created the housewife paradigm were many middle and upper class woman were removed from day to day labour. The invention of home economic devices and new social programs such as the washing machine, vacuum, public schooling and etc also reduced the amount of necessary hours women were required to spend on household maintenance. The contraceptive revolution and sexual revolution also radically changed gender relations in the west not necessarily for the better. The author seems to be right in that currently we are in an unstable paradigm were women are dogmatically asserted to be not just equal to men in value but interchangeable with them. We have all I am sure seen feminist cringe that denies thinks like athletic or psychological difference between the sexes. I am also sure we have all seen psychotic tranny cringe about how you can actually change your sex or being “assigned” a sex at birth. Yet I am also sure we have all seen that women de facto are not treated as equal to men and are afforded special privileges and leeway. It is as the it this author seems to describe that although gender equality is the de facto beliefs in is quite common to see woman taking advantage of men individually or using the state as a weapon to seek privileges. Regardless we need a new paradigm before the birth rate goes any lower and we go extinct.

[Anonymous No.22426290]

>>22423432
>>22423404
kekkin

[Anonymous No.22426292]

>>22423459
I know what you mean. It made me respect them less as I realized they're just these high pitched, frivolous, vain men.

[Anonymous No.22426302]

>>22423540
>I should be able to rape women

[Anonymous No.22426322]

You just like shirtless dudes

[Anonymous No.22426330]

>>22426249
I am talking about biological life in general. You weren’t meant to let your body atrophy while you stay seated indoors away from the outside world. I can not stress enough that it is a good idea in today’s environment to seek out physical activity, health exercise, and matters as a compensation for an increasingly abstracted and digitised world. It is important for you to physically know your own body while you still young in order to be psychologically and spiritually healthy. You need to connect with the biological and natural part of existence. You should learn to be present and aware of your own physicality experience reality. Think of it as a mysticism of the body as Meditation and prayer are a mysticism for the mind and the soul. You don’t have to be an autistic gym-cel or something but if you don’t get the understanding of the flesh you will be missing a big component of the wholistic human experience. I would recommend reading Mishima for these insights that I am not properly able to express.

[Anonymous No.22426342]

>>22426302
No you shouldn’t actually. Real rape not the kinda of consenting non consent fantasies is absolutely abhorrent and Will psychological and spiritual scar you. It’s also a sign of pathological narcissism

https://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2011/03/when_is_it_okay_to_rape_a_woma.html

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>>22426120
>He sneaks around and constantly avoids fights and its only when the enemy seems reasonable to fight
>. I'm convinced you literally don't know anything about what you're talking about.
Well on that bit, you might be right. I haven't read the thing since I was a kid and I don't remember anything great going on. I'm not going to either, it's an old meme that's been parodied for decades - and the parodies are better reading; like Light Fantastic, that's where I'm coming from.

Don't take it personally, I never liked Star Wars for the same reason.

>>22426112
>living with parents (fiscal res.)
That's an argument for today, when houses cost $4,000,000, back then (late 1920's) you could buy a house for $2,000, or live in a hotel with breakfast and dinner for $20 a month. Howard had no excuses. I have listened to John Bowdens talk on him, btw, I am well aware his father was enabling his lifestyle under the reasoning that his Sonichu comics would make it big (or had made it big).

I hate to make that comparison tho, Howard wasn't that bad by a long stretch - but it fits and as I said in that comment: IF you met someone like this today, you 'know' what you would think and say about him.

>>22426062
gratzi senor

[Anonymous No.22426397]

>>22426375
>argument for today
No it was how all of the world lived forever.
Families are important. Moving out to become a hedonist faggot has never helped a single person ever.
You've been opped.
Your parents will die and you'll wish you hadn't spent the last 30 years seeing them three times a year I guarantee you.

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>>22426118
>Biology
It's not reflected in any other species though, that's the first point to take into consideration on this.

Whereas if examining humans by contrast to 'tyrant matriarch' species humans absolutely fit that model; the male being brainwashed by pheromones and doing the bidding of the females without even realizing it, rationalizing some narrative where he's in charge as hes slaving away. Many human societies, including the supposed patriarchy of the christians and abramic circus shows, were and are all about women lazing around whilst the husbands did all the work. 'We' recognize that the maintenance is vital and society would collapse without that work, but to a woman she just sees servants being grubby; one servant is interchangeable with another and tens of thousands of men, as she knows, are eager to be her servant.

In a lot of ways a great deal of human history and the worse aspects of it can be attributed to women, e.g. men go off to war to kill some people to take their land and things to impress women, or consider things like textiles and silk and cotton, who the product is actually for and how much sweat and blood of whole nations goes into simply maintaining that industrial output. Trash Consumerism, for instance, something our society and global economy is all about, is 99% for women.

Anyway, factor these things into the equation; construct an accurate model, and you'll find a lot of human behavior today and historically is understood to be driven in this way; explained better by this than 'anything' else - a kind of a pheromonal monotone march in the deep unconsciousness. Mindless Barbarians, in other words, being led by Women through petty brow-beating, as Cassius Dio remarked.

sorry for the essay haha


>>22426280
The book exists in audio form, brother!

It's definitely a great case she makes, well worth the five or six hours to give the thing a listen to get a sense of whether or not you agree 'with' the case.

It sounds terrible, as I'm laying it out in the above comment, but it's ultimately positive for the self and the species to recognize and break out of that weak baseline programming (i don't really think it is pheromones; men doing this online proves this), for a man especially but also for women; armies of yes-men and sycophants are a quick path to ruin, for instance.

[Anonymous No.22426454]

>>22425645
>Very curious very curious you know you could simply not train Brazilian jujitsu?
I don't because I think most wrestling is gay.

>However why do you have such a strong reaction towards it? Why did this one word in my comment elicit such a changed response? Why the fantasy of a pressing dicks against men feature so prominently in your mind?
See pic related(same pic as before), when you look at the picture, it's all there, dick touching, ass touching etc. There is no need fantasy or to imagine things because it's all visible to the naked eye.

>Were you one of those boys in school who felt awkward in the gym shower and always kept your clothes on and got flustered every time you saw one of your peers naked?
We had separate shower stalls and normally one would wear at least underwear when changing in the locker room. I have never seen my any of my classmates dicks, never felt the need or interest in any of it (also have never shown my dick to them)

>I personally have never had any homosexual attraction to men but neither have I had such strong feelings of what I can only asses as fear coming from you? Sure any kind of wrestling or close contact sports will inevitably involve touching another man but why do you associate it with sex?
Because it looks like sex. Touching itself is fine and not sexual but touching other mans dick and ass is not fine and it is at best uncomfortable. I don't feal no fear and I do not feel attraction to other men but that does not mean I want to touch their dick or ass (or have them touching mine).

>Do you find American football to be sexual when a player gets tackled
players wear a lot of pads/protection, so touching of private parts is minimal (I have not watched much of american football but from what I have seen that is the case)

>do you UFC fighters grappling on the ground make you feel uncomfortable?
I stopped watching ufc because of this and also because there was hardly any stand up fighting anymore. They might as well stop calling themselves mixed martial arts and just become bjj grappling. I used to follow ufc somewhat but at one point I have realized that the image the company was pushing was very shitty and I lost all interest.

>Perhaps you should asses why you feel so strongly about this but that’s for you to process.
I am very comfortable with my sexuality, I have no problem with physical contact except when there is touching of genitalia between men, that is frankly unacceptible. You should also access why you feel ok with male dick and ass touching and that there might be reasons and events behind it which you may have repressed and forgotten as coping mechanism.

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>>22426397
>Your parents will die and you'll wish you hadn't spent the last 30 years seeing them three times a year I guarantee you.
I agree with your sentiment on this. Personally I'm very close with my family and see them all the time, but I've lived on my own since I was 16 and realize that people my own age who haven't ever had to deal with independence have a stunted, regressive, irresponsible and babyish mentality for all of their lives - staying at the teenager mentality and never growing out of it.

You're making an economic argument, basically, which is valid. My point is that in 1920 or 1960 you could easily afford to rent a room somewhere, before inflation and overpopluation in the cities got so bad, so Howard could have lived on his own for $5 a week, basically. The excuse you make for him didn't exist at that time.

It was his choice, sure, I suppose you could say that about it, if there was no financial barrier. Hard to shake the chris chan image though.

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>>22426454
this is true; there's a strong evidence in the etymology of the word 'gymnasium' (gynos) that this physical exercise and non-lethal combat sports was like the models catwalk or strippers pole for the ancient greks.

Real Men don't let a defeated opponent stand up ever again; real men tend not to have too many opponents due to the terror instilled in lesser men by witnessing this.

[Anonymous No.22426570]

>>22423441
You know, I actually never encountered anyone who hated Conan

[Anonymous No.22426592]

>>22426375
>I haven't read the thing since I was a kid and I don't remember anything great going on. I'm not going to either, it's an old meme that's been parodied for decades - and the parodies are better reading; like Light Fantastic, that's where I'm coming from.
You're a faggot. Pratchett's trash doesn't even come close to Howard's work.

[Anonymous No.22426602]

>>22426375
>IF you met someone like this today, you 'know' what you would think and say about him.
If I met a big 6 foot+ guy who knew how to box and could do so for an over an hour and was also good at talking? Sure enough, I wouldn't be disrespectful.

[Anonymous No.22426609]

>>22426454
You know actually this whole time I have simply been messing with and teasing you. I never actually assume you have any homosexual tendencies. I was simply enjoying the 4 Chan banter. However, your responses here seem are very peculiar. I am not a Dr. or psychoanalyst but it seems to me you may be on the autism spectrum. I am not try to insult with this I myself have a touch of the old Asperger’s. I don’t know maybe something to consider. Hope you have a good day friend.

[Anonymous No.22426629]

>>22426609
Nothing really peculiar about my responses. Also what about your preferences to male touching? was it just banter or do you really not mind handling other mens dicks?

[Anonymous No.22426632]

>>22426439
Maybe I will look into it but I am always a little suspicious of critical theory like explanations that generate a narrative of duality. I tend to view social systems as a Darwinian and mostly unconsciously generated but mediated by things like technology and environment.

[Anonymous No.22426656]

>>22426459
I wasn't the original poster that was "excusing him." You are correct about the ability to do so.
I just don't think this is something that needs "excusing."
You need excuses for poor behavior.

As far as the other things you said about holding people back, I agree. But that's just the parents being pathetic.
It's highly likely that the boomer who kicks their kid out at 18, who is roundly criticized on the 4chs, is superior to the parents who coddles their kid all through college.
But there is a middle ground that would be superior to both.

[Anonymous No.22426658]

>>22426629
Well maybe again I am not a Dr. But the literal straightforwardness kind of reminds of autistic people I know. When I wrote that comment in honesty never crossed my mind about as an aspect. I would not enjoy another man grabbing my penis but I also don’t think all grappling has to be coded as sexually as you seem to think it is. If I see two guys wrestling then of course it is going to be a little awkward but I am not going to assume they are homosexual. Wrestling and grappling have existed forever and as far as I can tell it was never coded as homosexual.

[Anonymous No.22426684]

>>22423510
>a namefag

https://youtu.be/pQK3OLLJvWM?si=W4vH2Cz-sLhsUo9p

[Anonymous No.22426794]

>>22426658
>the literal straightforwardness kind of reminds of autistic people I know.
Thanks for the compliment. However your comment also describes the sad state of average human interaction. Straightforwardness is not even frowned upon anymore, it is simply missing in modern conversations and dialogues, it has almost completely disappeared from literature. Modern dialogue and monologue is all double speak these days or worse, people just make sounds/words without having any idea what they are talking about and having no point to make.

[Anonymous No.22426829]

>>22426794
Maybe but it’s important to think of the actual mode of communication, the audience, and the location. We are on 4chan so you shouldn’t expect a little bit of trolling and playing to the audience. Directness has its benefits but it’s not necessarily applicable in this situation. You are correct that many people are irony poisoned and too caught up in sarcasm and herbalism. Sorry if I offended you I assumed you were in on the joke and playing along.

[Anonymous No.22426834]

>>22426829
Should*
Verbalism*

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[Anonymous No.22426873]

>>22426829
I wasn't offended at all, I had a strong feeling you weren't very serious but I found the topic interesting so I responded in earnest

[Anonymous No.22426907]

>>22423761
A baseball bat is actually a shit weapon.
Bait opponent into swinging and rush him as he does. Take his back. If you know judo, wrestling, BJJ, etc. it’s easy to take his back and fuck his life up.
You’d know that if you’d ever fought in your life. Instead you’re some basement dweller talking about a realm of reality you’re completely ignorant to.

[Anonymous No.22426985]

>>22426873
I am serious that people need to develop themselves through healthy habits and embracing proper gender roles. It’s important to be in touch with the real world and develop proper character rather than being always online. Jujitsu or weight lifting it’s totally fine as long as you are doing something that makes you feel more confident. It’s about a healthy mind in a healthy body and developing the social skills and ego to be successful in the young adult phase of your life to ideally meet certain milestones. I believe that a healthy body and relationships will help young men be successful with women and their careers. Ideally it will also be a stable basis for further psychological and spiritual growth as they mature into pillars of their local community. The bombastic language is supposed to be a hype tactic that gets young and intellectual men interested in such things where traditional modes of development have failed. Most people are not interested in going to church to hear a fat middle age effeminate pastor or read Confucius and Aristotle. Also it’s hard to compete with other attention grabbing nonsense that encourages pointless hedonism like Andrew Tate or nihilistic leftism.

[Anonymous No.22427168]

>>22426985
I am not against physical exercise and developing ones body or practising martial arts, but in case of most wrestling including jujitsu it is not for everyone, in fact there is nothing wrong with men doing it as long as they are consenting.
I am not sure I agree with the rest of your comment, what you said applies to some individuals and not others. Forcing everyone into this traditional mold (or to your own version of it) is tyranny and authoritarianism, what's sad about this is that the free west seems to have forgotten (or are in the process) what freedom means.

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>>22426602
>If I met a big 6 foot+ guy who knew how to box and could do so for an over an hour and was also good at talking? Sure enough, I wouldn't be disrespectful.
Then you should agree with me by that logic.

>>22426592
>(finally a rude comment)
hmph well, you're idolizing the original chris chan; sonichu and conan come from the same mental place as being fantasy constructs of "basement dwellers" who never left home and so are sure to have nothing of value. If you can overlook that foundational flaw, be my guest and teach us why Conan is worth reading despite that.

>>22426656
It does though because ... think about the metaphor i just made in this comment; if a person has no life experience what possible insight or value can their work produce? At most they'll be a sponge of local cultural memes and that's why we find always find their work predictable and simplistic; we know what's going to happen by the end of the first page or by the opening scene in a movie. OKAY, let's say, a kid might like that because they don't know anything better yet, maybe. And that's the target audience. Le'ts compare Howard to Chris Chans favorite literary works, the Goosebumps novellas of RL Stine; then let's compare the plot of most Goosebumps to (whatever author you like), and you can see the difference immediately.
>>22426907
>(judo debate continues)
If you get into a fight and someones "swinging" at you, you already know they're a baby. I won't go into detail how to fight, cos that would be irresponsible of me. But learn to fight like a Gladiator where you train to put down one opponent with each step in either a kill or incapacitation move, with the aim in mind to defeat thirty people, like Emperor Commodus or Nero. It'll pay off, since at most you'll ever be facing is a group of six.

This vs. sporting Martial Arts; sports doesn't train you to do this for obvious reasons of people will be dead and crippled.

>>22426684
psshh
go back to antifa, guy fawkes dude, and shout impotently at a building.

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>>22426632
i tend to agree, but what they don't bring up is that we can spot the unconscious or subconscious and recognize it, then there's a noticeable us and them; the conscious intellect acting with balanced thought vs. the unconscious or subconscious impulses acting almost against their will.

My opinion,
I view it as basic adult maturity which we don't have readily due to cultures of infantilism; IRL I don't think anybody would be doing dumb things that didn't work, or going through half of the social pantomimes, as the consequence of not being smart would be death in some manner. You can open that bin and dump a lot of silly human behavior into it and then utterly disregard it, for the better.

If, for instance, human bhavior can be understood in its baseline default (in the manner suggested in that book) then we can understand how to extricate ourselves from it; if we don't want to recognize it (which i think is the main thing, it's a lot to swallow) then that's too bad for whomsoever chooses not to, as they'll suffer the consequences of their actions.

Or: think of it like... learning that gambling your savings away has very bad results, going through that experience to learn the lesson, then ignoring the lesson and doing it again due to social influence. I can't imagine that would be going on IRL, IRL it would only take one observation to draw the correct conclusion that .. the mushroom is toxic, or dangerous eats will eat you if you go here, etc.

Understanding the baseline default programming and how it works in the unconscious and subconscious, that's the starting point to escape the garbage. That book accomplishes this and may not even realize that it does.

[Anonymous No.22427300]

>>22427168
You are correct that it doesn’t apply to everyone but I believe it applies to most people. I believe in pragmatically responding to the problems of the day and physical deterioration and isolated hedonism seem to be a huge problem to me. People are trapped by stimuli and propaganda designed by big corporations and governments to hack their psychology for their own ends. In my view for people to be free they have to develop self discipline, real life communities, and a level of non conformity to the mainstream. As far as tyranny and authoritarianism goes I believe anarchy is impossible and all social systems will end up hierarchical to some degree. I don’t think the liberal west is free from social engineering and manipulation from the shadows. I don’t desire a fascist type state but there needs to be a legitimate public authority acting in the peoples best interest to punish antisocial behaviour and reward pro social behaviour. Think of it like this the difference between education and indoctrination is that education is done for the benefit of the student to make them more capable of making their own decision while indoctrination is done for the benefit of the indoctrinator. I am sure you can see how things are currently struggling in the west under the current neoliberal and progressive dogma. I merely want to replace the bad doctrines of liberalism like atomized individualism and social conflict theory with a more wholistic vision of social harmony of interconnected parts bound together by duty.

[Sir Duncans Crumbs (His Grace) No.22427310]

dangerous eats / dangerous animals* lawl

>>22426907
also,
>(learn judo, learn to break peoples backs)
Yeah, this is one large reason why I made up my mind to just break the arms and legs of the next person drunk enough to stagger over to me looking for a little friday night fun. I'm sure it'll never happen, though. But still, Judo amateurs are dangerous weapons that need disarming.

If you notice, people who are strong and confident don't go around picking fights with the aim in mind to,
> take his back and fuck his life up.

scrawny dweebs and porkypiggy dweebs should not be emboldened by judo. that was my original point.

[Anonymous No.22427350]

>>22427300
>In my view for people to be free they have to develop self discipline, real life communities, and a level of non conformity to the mainstream
this makes no sense. You cannot be free if you are part of the community, and cannot be a part of a community if you do not conform to the mainstream.

>punish antisocial behaviour, reward pro social
sounds like China with their social credit system. Are you Chinese? You cannot introduce such systems (or even indivisual ideas) in the west without completely destroying western freedom and bringing in communism.

[Anonymous No.22427415]

>>22427276
Somewhat agree but we would have to modify the premise of the book in my view. If it’s true that women are being infantilised by a psychosexual structure that allows them to profit from the labours of men we have to be careful how we understand this structure. First we have to acknowledge that it probably originally had a purpose in evolutionary history and may serve, or at least at one point did, a function in society and reproduction. Second that women as individuals and as category can’t be blamed for this as it’s something beyond conscious control. Third that men willingly if unconsciously participate in such a structure by competing for reproduction and love by giving women their production. And finally it may not be possible or desirable to disrupt this system at the present time despite how dysfunctional it is. My personal inclination would be to act rather stoically towards this structure and try to personally avoid becoming ensnared by. I would be doubtful that the majority of people would be receptive to overturning female privileges as described by the author. Though that doesn’t mean not spreading the message to more open minded individuals. I personally am a bit sceptical that women can be or should be totally economically independent of men and would point out attempts to do so have thus far only resulted in expanding the power of the state and bureaucracy to legally entrench affirmative action for women. The weak will always turn to the state to even the playing field and the state will be eager to cultivate them as a client class. Instead I would suggest that women’s natural biological function in reproduction and childcare plus their different psychology should be played more acknowledged and played to. We shouldn’t exclude talented women or atypical from pursuing their interests but society should gently push women towards natalism and less demanding careers. We are currently experiencing many dysfunctions from the wrong conclusions of feminism and sexual revolution. The rate of lonely unmarried unhappy men and women is increasing and the birth rate is declining to an unmanageable level. If getting the average woman to get happily married have 2.1 kids and raise them to be good individuals is the cost of women absorbing male resources this seems acceptable.

[Anonymous No.22427460]

>>22427415
Nta but such a long reply ...about women. I personally don't care, we are equal, women have problems, men have problems, women problems are not my problems. Stay on topic and discuss what is relevant.

[Anonymous No.22427493]

>>22423353
where the alabaster white bitches at?

[Anonymous No.22427494]

>>22427460
Me and him are having our own conversation about an other book. Plus this thread has no topic it was derailed from the start.

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>>22427415
>. First we have to acknowledge that it probably originally had a purpose in evolutionary history
Ah but if we can demonstrate infantilism as the consequence of regression within bloated urban environs (detachment from reality; this being cause of 99% of foolish actions,especially political, philosophical and religious reductionalism) then we can recognize this dynamic as having no evolutionary cause but being simple dysgenic social interaction; i.e. evolution almost in reverse, going against the species impulses and natural IRL state of being.

i.e. that,
vs.
>the state (as it is today anyway)

Her argument was that they wouldn't be that way without that pernicious influence; I argued (elsewhere) that a proof of this would be to find a Woman raised simply without any female influence. You can find Women like this today and the drag-down effect of them is absent, they're functional vs. the common herd, moreover they're self-aware ad aware to the poor influences of the society, even if they'd lack the vocabulary to articulate it.

Again though it's really infantilism which is the medium or vehicle where the negative influences go through; those influences are brushed aside by good logic, but they don't enter in via logic in the first place, they enter in via peer pressure or infantilism which is oppositional toward logic. So overarching this is infantilism, in my view anyway.

Personally I think the political aspects are not helpful here; it's like with TK and surrogate activities, that's a proclivity we're inclined towards, but another proclivity we're inclined towards is to blame the behavior as being solely caused or brought about by one local contemporary political faction, which closes the eyes to the weaknesses int he self through the practice 'of' those behaviors, leading to the flaws or weaknesses persisting anyway.
AKA, as I like to say, the reason why Germany lost the War; despite recognizing that a set of behaviors were bad they choose to ignore and avoid the remedy of this behavior in their population, and chose to blame it on third parties; the jewish ritual of scapegoat, for instance, blamed for "why Tommy fucked a dog," killing the goat after pretending to cast Tommys demon into it has zero remedial effect on stopping Tommy from fucking another dog, if anything he simply learns how to get away with his dog-fucking by having found a social excuse to avoid remedy.

MY POINT hahahaha is that these things can be overlooked, or whatever or wishfully ignored, but it does nothing to remedy the problems.
re: this,
> lonely unmarried unhappy men and women is increasing and the birth rate is declining to an unmanageable level. If getting the average woman to get happily married have 2.1 kids and raise them to be good individuals is the cost of women absorbing male resources this seems acceptable.

[Sir Duncans Crumbs (His Grace) No.22427537]

>>22427415
also,
re: birthrates
I don't think it's a problem at all, if you have a village with six huts and each hut has only one kid, and if you have three wives and twenty kids then you're populating that village; by the third generation there are hundreds of you.

Transient labor bloating out an urban population arguably 'is' the cause of the problems we've been discussing in the first place.

[Anonymous No.22427590]

>>22423426
About $50, depending on where you go

[Anonymous No.22427630]

>>22427350
> sounds like China with their social credit system. Are you Chinese? You cannot introduce such systems (or even indivisual ideas) in the west without completely destroying western freedom and bringing in communism

I am not Chinese but I respect ancient Chinese philosophy and even modern China to a point. I am also not a Communist or Capitalist a liberal or Fascist. I am probably closest to the NRX school of thought but with a bent towards Jungian psychology and other more metaphysical philosophers than Yarvin.
As far as freedom goes I don’t think people are free now. I think people are ensnared by manipulative forces with advertising, education, the media, algorithms, hyper stimuli, and other vice pushing organisations. I see people being more or less intentionally made weak, confused, homogeneous and subservient. This makes them the perfect subject class for capital and the managerial elite. In my view most people are incapable of the type of freedom you are seeking. In my view liberty is being responsible and in control of your own thoughts and actions and free to pursue your own excellence without being hindered unnecessarily. Aristotle is right when he said some people are naturally slavish. Most people will never be intelligent enough or psychologically mature enough to truly think and act independently. They will always incline to whatever the loudest and most powerful voice in the room says. My idea of western freedom isn’t to introduce an all powerful social credit system but to have a limited state under a benevolent ruler which would encourage the creation of smaller institutions and communities and remove as many psychological manipulative organizations as possible. The local elite would fill these regional institutions and lead their local communities. Individuals would be allowed with in reason to pursue their own interests same as now and long as it doesn’t coherence or negatively impact others. For example In my ideal wouldn’t not be allowed to take drugs or commit crimes but would be allowed to pursue LGBTQI+ relationships but not teach it in schools.

> You cannot be free if you are part of the community, and cannot be a part of a community if you do not conform to the mainstream

I am talking about individuals creating their own groups outside of one unified mainstream society. Plus in my view the only way to be part of a community to is to be authentically part of it and follow the norms and expectations of it. Freedom is never unbounded you will always have limitations on what you can or cannot do. Think of being part of a church or ethnic community you are an individual who freely joins the community and by being part of the community you have your own small support network outside the mainstream. What if churches or ethnic communities also had businesses and schools and housing. By being a part of a smaller communities you can exercise autonomy on the day to day far more than being one voter of 3M.

[Anonymous No.22427677]

>>22427630
I hope you understand that you cannot have benefits of one or more particular systems or ideologies without actually implementing those ideologies in a society, you cannot have (perceived) benefits of communism without implementing actual communism, you cannot have benefits of monarchy without implementing absolute monarchy and so on. Your ideal society cannot exist because it takes aspects from every ideology and form of governance, and those ideologies cannot all be implemented in a single society.

[Anonymous No.22427694]

>>22426330
you're close to the truth costin but you will have to at some point come in terms with the reality of human biodiversity not just in vague terms of "west eurasian", "sub-saharan african" etc; not even in terms of άριστοι within a given group, but of the reality that some groups of humans are altogether suited for slavery and that these groups are very specific and often not highly genetically distant from their betters. you are familiar with this notion but don't quite get it yet because nietzsche didn't either. docility, cuckedness, spiritual longhousing, gynocentrism, all these are traits predominant in specific groups today and in the past... groups which might have had excellent individuals in them but as a whole they were incapable of doing anything and even the strong rule of the bankers of the age of exploration could not fix them. groups that when in small tribes about the same size of a city-state they could not achieve anything besides a nigerreality of barbarity... not in the brutal sense as aztecs, chinese (includes mishima, japs descend from chinks), greeks, nuragics were far more brutal than the average snownigger could ever be... but in the sense of spiritual dead-end, a dead-end whose femael worship is the logical outcome. this is absolute biological reality and destiny for them but not others, not even many of the subpar latam nations.
To them, modern decadence and Lastmannery is but a manifestation of biology and impulses adapted to modern life.
can you guess who i'm referring to? hint: a very small part of your autosomal dna (smaller than mine) connects you with them.

[Anonymous No.22427715]

>>22427677
I don’t see why a more technologically advanced form of monarchy or Caesarism couldn’t work. It seems possible to me that you could utilise strong executive authority tempered by constitutional norms with power divided down to various sub communities something like Switzerland combined with Singapore.

[Anonymous No.22427723]

>>22427715
>lasts for 10-50 years
>dies out, replaced by retatdation again
bravo

[Anonymous No.22427760]

>>22427715
>. It seems possible to me that you could utilise strong executive authority tempered by constitutional norms with power divided down to various sub communities something like Switzerland combined with Singapore.
From a point of an authoritarian ruler it is very easy to implement but in a free democratic western society it would be impossible. Even Singapore style laws and goverment is pretty much impossible in the west. Switzerland is a very special case, they have given up many of their rights and freedoms in order to create political and economic conditions that are rather strict but also very suitable to protect their wealth.

[Anonymous No.22427792]

>>22427760
Btw switzerland is also getting the replacement treatment, they are only marginally better than belgium which is only marginally better off than germany/france/uk. turns out giving up freedoms doesnt help if you go extinct at the end

[Anonymous No.22427803]

>>22427792
There is a cure its called a Traditional Catholic Reconquista

[Anonymous No.22427804]

>>22427694
Wow thats a lot of words to say "I think I'm better than you"

[Anonymous No.22427831]

>>22427803
the idea that is not even worth mentioning because it will never be implemented

[Sir Duncans Crumbs (His Grace) No.22427841]

>>22427760
I was writing something on this last week; the authoritarian notion is tied to anonymity and centralized control, this is the model we have today, where the thing is a chaos of hidden actors and inefficiencies, whereas an internet controlled by county hubs by county level governments would operate more smoothly and make a centralized control impossible: any centralized control of the internet would go hand in hand with gross ineptitude because no organization has the manpower to physically monitor and maintain and make all of that stuff work (imagine facebook actually having a board of advertising for each county to make sure the advertisements were actually getting customers for businesses). Centralized control will always end up like facebook or twitter, in other words, stagnating the economy, and the cultural implication of global one-messaging is even more sluggish and ultimately ignored utterly.

Best solution is for county models to be made from scratch, you'd ed a lot of problems this way, you'd empower local governments with massive revenues, plus - you'd make it impossible for any actor to seize control of a societys narratives since it would in effect mean anybody looking to 'twitterize' to coup a nation couldn't just do it by one focus on one platform, but would have to divide their efforts between six hundred platforms for six hundred counties. It would mean ending anonymity, however, and people seem to find an issue with this - as if you're anonymous in the first place; really anonymity is the tool for a bad actor with bots to fake public opinion by inflating their numbers and doing targeted harassment, sewing fake new stories creating fake popularity for/against things, posing as a group as they do it: this would be impossible without anonymity.

For those reasons, given how dependent the the current status quo is on astroturfing and libel, i doubt you'll ever see a functional internet in the west.

[Anonymous No.22427851]

>>22427694
Honestly I was I Was Constin he’s living the dream shitposting for six figures. I am a no name occasionally /lit/ poster so it’s a little flattering. As for whites being predisposed to the current system of modern life it’s a possibility but I think it’s more a Spenglerian and spiritual problem than a biological one.

[Anonymous No.22427860]

>>22427803
Posts like this is why muslims win but then again you're most likely not even european
>>22427804
I never asserted that Greeks and better than Jews although they most definitely are
Stay on topic

[Anonymous No.22427866]

>>22427851
>costin
>six figures
lol
>but I think it’s more a Spenglerian and spiritual problem than a biological one
Both of these things are biological

[Anonymous No.22427867]

>>22427496
>>22427537

I would have to read the book to understand the nuance you’re trying to make with this post. But in general I am not so sure that female nature is so flexible that they could be made more like men just by transforming the culture. I feel like feminine nature is way deeper than that. As for the birth rate reducing the population would be advantageous but it’s all about the angle of descent like an airplane too steep and you crash. This range means the population is going to half and the economic and social strain is going to be brutal. Plus I believe family formation is an important and fulfilling psychological and spiritual milestone.

[Anonymous No.22427881]

>>22427841
I am bullish on Urbit type personal computing as outlined by Yarvin. I also like the idea of blockchain and crypto in a future iteration that is more advanced and not just a Ponzi scheme.

[Anonymous No.22427897]

>>22427866
BAP definitely has enough money to be comfortable for doing what he does which is essentially posting on Twitter. Though I am hopeful his next book will be more serious and philosophical than BAM.

Any reason you think that modernity is primarily a biological phenomenon? Wr have see similar cycles of modernity of decay and decline in the past among other civilizations. Also cliodynamics promises some interesting insights about group population dynamics in civilizations but I am not read up on it.

[Anonymous No.22427905]

>>22427860
Catholics are united by our faith we are Catholic first and foremost. Before country and before blood this is our fight together.
>>22427831
>never be implemented
and are you a Traditional Catholic? And do you pray the rosary everyday?
>And in all things whatsoever you shall ask in prayer, believing, you shall receive.
- Matthew 21:22
>Because no word shall be impossible with God.
- Luke 1:37
Do you doubt what is possible anon?
>And he said: Come. And Peter going down out of the boat, walked upon the water to come to Jesus.
- Matthew 14:29
>But seeing the wind strong, he was afraid: and when he began to sink, he cried out, saying: Lord, save me.
- Matthew 14:30
>And immediately Jesus stretching forth his hand took hold of him, and said to him: O thou of little faith, why didst thou doubt?
- Matthew 14:31

[Anonymous No.22427908]

>>22427897
Variations of reactions-adaptions to modernity, not modernity itself
(This is a pseud way to say that some are just more longhoused than others and dig their grave more fervently)

[Anonymous No.22427923]

>>22427905
Catholicism and Christianity is probably going to die out. Catholicism has already seriously compromised itself with its accommodation with modernity. Jung wrote about how Christianity could renew itself but I don’t see that happening. I don’t know what to expect for the new religious paradigm that will replace it.

[Anonymous No.22427939]

>>22427860
>I never asserted that Greeks and better than Jews
>To them, modern decadence and Lastmannery is but a manifestation of biology and impulses adapted to modern life. can you guess who i'm referring to? hint: a very small part of your autosomal dna (smaller than mine) connects you with them.

[Anonymous No.22427947]

>>22427908
Seems a little weak to me. It is a natural matter of course that the societies that birthed modernity would be more degraded by it over somewhere in the African bush. Also societies that are most hated by them are the most subjected to propaganda. Just look at the stuff they do to Germany. Personally not hopeful for any of the traditional ethnic nations and see the white race having to embark on a long Reconquest if it wants to regain sovereignty over its ancestral homelands.

[Sir Duncans Crumbs (His Grace) No.22427956]

>>22427867
>I am not so sure that female nature is so flexible that they could be made more like men just by transforming the culture. I feel like feminine nature is way deeper than that.
Well again, back to the first point I made on this; look at other species. You don't find a cretinized female, rather you find in the majority a slave caste type which we recognize as male. Put this framework over human society and you find a perfect fit and you also find a perfect denialism towards admitting to it, because it's uncomfortable to everybody.

[Anonymous No.22427959]

>>22427923
>Catholicism and Christianity is probably going to die out.
It has not died out since the beginning. The one true faith will never die out
>And I say to thee: That thou art Peter; and upon this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.
- Matthew 16:18

[Sir Duncans Crumbs (His Grace) No.22427976]

>>22427881
>blockchain
idk man, I could make a good case that the cost of running the internet to maintain blockchain doesn't ever cover the credit tokens that are overvalue via inflation to reap the rewards of mining bitcoin stuff. I did the math for this once, it's like the annual oil output for small nation annually, that goes into datamining daily - or something close to that. Fuel will be too expensive to maintain this silliness eventually, which produces nothing anyway so..

The advertising model internet we have today 'could' be beaten and twisted enough to actually be maintained, but it would need massive decentralization to become actually productive (i.e. to make advertising actually contribute to the economy and become a source of business growth and revenues to the states ... rather than twitter/facebook/youtube CEOs just pocketing those revenues and buying gold toilets).

heh

watch this space:
http://cocacola.washingtonstate.usoa.earth
http://cocacola.cydonia.lunar.earth
http://cocacola.stardock.phobos.mars

[Sir Duncans Crumbs (His Grace) No.22427983]

>oil output
i mean input .. i mean.. consumption, waste, whatever thou calleth yon choo-choo in [current year].

[Anonymous No.22428007]

>>22427905
I don't care about what you pray to in the privacy of your home but either offer real solutions to problems or go to >>>/x/

[Anonymous No.22428013]

>>22427939
I'm a Greek talking about westoids and calling you a jew, retard

[Sir Duncans Crumbs (His Grace) No.22428014]

>>22427976
ed. a good equation would be to figure out how much the cost of fuel is bumped up by the bandwagoning of the 'www.internet' which is powered by the nations; so much valuable natural resource being burned away for all time, at the expense of every host nation, to power cat gifs seems like a really bad deal already... but add to it how much fuel is actually being used, necessitating purchase and procurement of more ....

[Anonymous No.22428024]

>>22427947
I was talking more about how in a similar society some ethnies are more degraded than others, on average
>embark on a long Reconquest if it wants to regain sovereignty over its ancestral homelands.
Win never actually happen, again for genetic reasons

[Anonymous No.22428026]

off to bed btw, later niggers

[Anonymous No.22428045]

>>22428013
Yes and in the same sentence saying Greeks are better than Jews because Jews have more of the bad gene you don't like than Greeks do. The entire point of >>22427694 is "I think I'm better than you" like I said and you admitted it too so I dunno why you denied it at first

[Anonymous No.22428066]

>>22428007
It is not only a real solution but it is the only solution. Become Traditional Catholic and pray the rosary everyday.

[Anonymous No.22428106]

>>22426120
>Did you ever even read Conan? He never does anything like this. He sneaks around and constantly avoids fights and its only when the enemy seems reasonable to fight or when he has no choice that he decides to do so. He never once does anything even slightly resembling a suicide dash. I'm convinced you literally don't know anything about what you're talking about.
Conan also doesn't rape anyone. No one who talks about Conan has read the books. Their ideas are based on artwork, comics, or movies.

[Anonymous No.22428194]

>>22428066
Thanks but I don't need your brain disease.

[Sir Duncans Crumbs (His Grace) No.22428295]

>>22428066
dear ethnic god of the jews,
please accept this cow as a sacrifice
to keep the jews at bay,
thank you,
the goyim

[Sir Duncans Crumbs (His Grace) No.22428319]

forgive me o father for i have sinned
i put plastics into the wrong recycling bin,
please grant me the blessing of being an object of hate
so i may become rich by suing the state,
don't worry about answering any of my requests
i know you'll make good on them upon my death,

please however make the local priest stop
making me suck his rotten old cock
unless as i suspect it's your secret will,
in which case i'm happy to give you a thrill,

thank for you humoring me, god of the jews,
though as i'm a goyim i'm not sure why you would do.

[Anonymous No.22428738]

>>22428066
ugh i've been going to catholic church for a while and had my eye on a girl like this but i didn't talk to her and now she's found some guy

[Anonymous No.22428841]

>>22423842
>>22423793
>>22423781
Kill yourself, nigger subhuman

[Anonymous No.22428889]

>>22423805
In the cadence of Butthead from the smash hit Mike Judge creation Beavis and Butthead: uhhhh what?

[Sir Duncans Crumbs (His Grace) No.22429126]

>>22428841
>Kill yourself, nigger subhuman
i'd rather steal $900 worth of goods and not be arrested, like i do every day! see me swagger down the road, with one hand atop the hem of my jogging trousers with a broad smile upon my brown face.

you kill yourself, cockroach, your time is over.

[Anonymous No.22429331]

>>22427866
Not really, because matter does not exist, only spirits and their ideas. Also, epigenetics mindbreaks a lot of biological detetminists.

[Anonymous No.22429338]

Longhouse theory is the most retarded thing bap came up with since it follows the false theories of a feminist archeologist. The proto-europeans were not overwhelmingly matriarchal. Also, some guy here said that "snowniggers" were nit as brutal as the greeks (lol) and implied they were genetic slaves because they had to eat for a living in harsh climates. I highly suggest you read the sagas. For an example that might mindbreak you and perhaps make you feel uncomfortable, I suggest the Saga of the People of Svarfarðardale, where the final "hero", because physically harming women was taboo, decides to psychologically torture the woman who caused his father's death.
There's also some cool story about his grandfather and a family friend who was a berserker.

[Anonymous No.22429397]

>>22429338
>The proto-europeans were not overwhelmingly matriarchal.
You are talking about a very wide time and group. Longhouses certainly were a thing. For instance pic rel was basically a giant bee hive

[Sir Duncans Crumbs (His Grace) No.22430616]

>>22429338
>the Saga of the People of Svarfarðardale
this was fun, nice book rec

[Anonymous No.22430637]

Is there anything more crings than being a namefag and a Gurm fan at the same time?

[Sir Duncans Crumbs (His Grace) No.22430638]

>>22428106
>Conan also doesn't rape anyone. No one who talks about Conan has read the books.
not sure whether this is a complaint or not

you'r right, why doesn't he rape anyone? big law in his character i didn' even think of

WHY THER NO RAPE

[Sir Duncans Crumbs (His Grace) No.22430643]

>>22430637
>raise
Probably being the poster of this >>22428066

[Anonymous No.22430676]

>>22426120
ye he is described as being feline all the time

[Anonymous No.22431280]

>>22427905
Bless you for your good work, anon.

[Anonymous No.22431699]

>>22430638
Conan believes that if women aren't just throwing themselves at you then you've failed as a man. I forget which story he says that in.

[Sir Duncans Crumbs (His Grace) No.22431915]

>>22431699
sure but we all know that women who give it up so easily aren't any fun. le paradoxia del sexo.

[Anonymous No.22431922]

>>22431699
Conan has to work for most of his conquests