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[Anonymous No.22372594]

Read Hegel's Phenomenology of Spirit today. Embrace it. Discuss it. Be one with Absolute Spirit.

[Anonymous No.22372601]

It was the hardest read I ever tried. I broke up after a few passages and I understand less than nothing.

And I'm German, so I read the orginal

[Anonymous No.22372613]

Nah, I like to have fun while reading.

[Anonymous No.22372641]

>>22372601
Es tut mir leid.

[Anonymous No.22372648]

>>22372601
It's just the introduction to his system. The Greater Logic is the final boss of thought

[Anonymous No.22372651]

>>22372594
Thought this book was pretty good but Id like to try something more challenging. Any recs?

[Anonymous No.22372653]

that reminds me...

[Anonymous No.22372662]

>>22372651

[Anonymous No.22372678]

>>22372651

[Anonymous No.22372685]

>>22372601
>>22372594
I also am apparently too brainlet to grasp everything going on
I havent read this, but very recently there was published the first "paragraph by paragraph" guide, I don't know how good it is or not https://global.oup.com/academic/product/hegels-phenomenology-of-spirit-9780197663134?lang=en&cc=us#

I tried to muddle my way through by literally copy-pasting passages into ChatGPT to rewrite them in a more modern language/style, and it did help readability but I decided that I need to come back to the book later, because it's definitely not for noobs like me

[Anonymous No.22372690]

>>22372641
Thanks. I helps a lot.

>>22372648
I have read the Rechtsphilosoph and honestly believe I get the argumentation there. Just the Phenomenology is too hard for me.
But Husserl is okay.

[Anonymous No.22372789]

>>22372594
Can I ask if you guys read this as a hobby or are you actually some scholar tryhards?

[Anonymous No.22372937]

I really don't wanna read this guy, but I wanna read a lot of people Hegel influenced. Is there a secondary source that will explain it all to me?

[Anonymous No.22372940]

>>22372937

[Anonymous No.22372945]

>>22372789
>reading philosophy as a hobby
ngmi

[Anonymous No.22372944]

>>22372937
Initial chapters of volume 1 of Kolakowski's Main Currents of Marxism are pretty good on the left Hegelians

[Anonymous No.22373030]

>>22372594
>Absolute Spirit
Spooky as hell.

[Anonymous No.22373041]

>>22372945
But aren't you ashamed of studying philosophy? Don't you now that society deems you completly useless, which you are desu

[Anonymous No.22373044]

>>22373041
I meant studying philosophy as a profession

[Anonymous No.22373052]

>>22372945
Something a typical hegelian poser would say.

[Anonymous No.22373067]

>>22373041
>Don't you now that society deems you completly useless, which you are desu
don't care. my kingdom is not of this world. get behind me satan.

[Anonymous No.22373705]

>>22372648
Can anyone explain any actual practical take away you get from Hegel's system. It's fine if it's just fun mental masturbation, but do people who "understand" all of his books have some amazing approach to life everyone else is missing out on?
>inb4 le Marx
Yeah marx thought he could cross out "idealism" and write in "materialism" and hoped that shit would just work out somehow, spare me.

[Anonymous No.22373709]

>>22373705
>do people who "understand" all of his books have some amazing approach to life everyone else is missing out on?
pretty much

[Anonymous No.22373711]

>>22372651
Derrida and Delueze (don't care if spelled wrong) tried to go even more schizo.

[Anonymous No.22373720]

>>22373044
>philosophy as a profession
it's more of a vocation really. I don't get paid to do it.

[Anonymous No.22373968]

>>22373041
>Don't you now that society deems you completly useless, which you are desu
So much this. I love being shackled to the wall of the cave, together brother will never make the climb

[Anonymous No.22374024]

>>22372601
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL4gvlOxpKKIgR4OyOt31isknkVH2Kweq2

[Anonymous No.22374034]

>>22373041
>Your boos mean nothing to me, I’ve seen what makes you cheer

[Anonymous No.22374036]

>>22372651
12 rules for life

[Anonymous No.22374040]

>>22372937
>>22373705
>>22373709
>>22372594
>most famous Hegel scholar of the last 30 years is Professor Francis Fukuyama
>CULMINATING THOUGHT was that the 90's would last forever
HEGEL and his simps are RETARDS LOLLLLLL AHAHAHAHAHAHAH

[Anonymous No.22374101]

>>22374024
>https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL4gvlOxpKKIgR4OyOt31isknkVH2Kweq2
Damn dude based. Who needs to go to some damn university. This is the 20s. This is the 21st century.

[Anonymous No.22374232]

>>22373709
>pretty much
Go on....
>inb4 you post the screen cap from Joker where he says "You wouldn't get it"

[Anonymous No.22374460]

>>22372651
Analogia Entis

[Anonymous No.22374465]

>>22373705
I dunno man, I think you're either born with the urge to behold the Absolute or you're not.

[Anonymous No.22374469]

>>22374232
>Go on....

[Anonymous No.22374541]

Hegel beat the fuck out of Kant so hard

[Anonymous No.22374681]

>>22373705
I’m going to be honest, there actually is no behavioral hidden key unlocked by reading Hegel and this is actually explicitly stated in his system to a certain extent. In terms of Hegel’s ethics/politics, he expressly believes that ethics/politics simply points out or describes the underlying reason of normative beliefs but does not change them. This is arguable because his most famous “student”, Marx, created a system of thought which quite literally influenced the entire world for centuries to come. However, it can also be argued that Marx himself did not fully endorse this idea of thought changing the world because Scientific Marxism is supposed to merely describe a preexisting economic trend.

Furthermore, if you understand Hegel’s system as an explication of the self-development of spirit as a totalizing self-conscious mind, part of the “purpose” of reading and understanding philosophy itself is to realize one’s place in this development, to understand the relative impotence one has at the personal level, and acknowledge the truth of this system (if you accept the system) and it’s interpenetrating parts. Many philosophers such as Kierkegaard and Spinoza among others hold this sort of view that the greatest amount of personal freedom or actualization comes from realizing one’s place in the grand scheme of metaphysical reality. Whether it be through our subservience to God, our incorporation into the one substance, our role as a vessel for the self-development of spirit, etc.

Ideally, one would reach a place of harmony, mental stability, and feeling of freedom from reading Hegel (if his philosophy is true), but there is no Gnostic ascension to be gained. Reading philosophy and experiencing art and participating in society and such is supposed to be part of one’s development in Hegel’s view, but there is no secret code or hack one would reap. That’s my two cents at least.

[Anonymous No.22374704]

“If Hegel had written the whole of his logic and then said, in the preface or some other place, that it was merely an experiment in thought in which he had even begged the question in many places, then he would certainly have been the greatest thinker who had ever lived. As it is, he is merely comic.”

[Anonymous No.22374745]

>>22373705

I'm going to save you a lot of time and pain: ignore all philosophy from Decartes onward. They are all off track. Start with the Greeks and end with Aquinas. Ground your life in God. There, you're set. Now go enjoy life and eternity.

[Anonymous No.22374750]

>>22374704
Harsh, but ultimately fair.
>>22372594
Who's the autist who makes these retarded Kraut threads EVERY DAY?

[Anonymous No.22375158]

>>22373067
>>22373968
>>22374034
Cope
>>22373720
Then I was not talking about you, obvioulsy

[Anonymous No.22375565]

russel talk on hegel
https://youtu.be/KCwceIaJr7U

[Anonymous No.22375618]

>>22373041
>slave morality

[Anonymous No.22375633]

>>22373041
>But aren't you ashamed
Deeply, but I have Pharaoh (1999) to take my mind off of things.

[Anonymous No.22375671]

>>22373041
>don‘t you want to stop thinking and start helping shekelcorp make more widgits per hour? you might even get an informal pat on the back from (red/blue social values) team!

[Anonymous No.22375797]

>>22375618
>>22375633
>>22375671
Retards, this society is putting bread on your table while you are jerking yourselves on words of others. You bring nothing, you only read what's been said. If you can honestly make a living by doing this then congrats, but remember you are nothing more than a woman sitting in an office doing a job that is imaginary.

[Anonymous No.22375804]

>>22375797
Ouch. Definitely booting up Pharaoh (1999) to take my mind off this post.

[Anonymous No.22375823]

>>22372601
>and I understand less than nothing.
Sounds like you got more out of it than you think

[Anonymous No.22375880]

>>22375797
>society is putting food on my table
>I contribute to society and am part of it
>I am putting food on my table
Well that comment fell apart pretty quick. Philosophy need not be more than a hobby.

[Anonymous No.22375896]

>>22375880
You do an imaginary job and society feeds you for it. They treat you like a mentally disabled person, which seems you are

[Anonymous No.22375973]

>>22375797
>woman sitting in an office doing a job that is imaginary.
those would be "consultants"
philosophers are so ahead of the curb you don't realize their contribution

[Anonymous No.22375979]

>>22373041
>>22375896
>You have to be useful to modern society! You don't understand, you should stop seeking truth and instead help us destroy the only thing that makes worthy of existence!

[Anonymous No.22376244]

>>22375804
for me it's Caesar III

[Anonymous No.22376494]

>>22372594
i'll bite, what's it even about?

[Anonymous No.22376507]

>>22372594
The only absolute spirit I embrace comes in a 750ml bottle.

[Anonymous No.22376647]

>>22376494
This brilliant study of the stages in the mind's necessary progress from immediate sense-consciousness to the position of a scientific philosophy includes an introductory essay and a paragraph-by-paragraph analysis of the text to help the reader understand this most difficult and most influential of Hegel's works.

[Anonymous No.22377774]

Are the memes about Hegel being a demonic wizard casting spells on the world-historical realm true?

[Anonymous No.22377782]

>>22372594
Hegels ideas are too abstract to mean anything

[Anonymous No.22377786]

>>22375823
Kek

[Anonymous No.22377799]

>>22376647
Heels greatest contribution was moving past the idea that philosophy should be approached as a science

[Anonymous No.22377814]

>>22377799
Hegel abandoned the idea of truth

[Anonymous No.22377830]

>>22377814
When?

[Anonymous No.22378097]

>>22376494
The journey of self-consciousness in its discovery of itself as what "truly is."

[Anonymous No.22378122]

>>22374745
But Hegel's philosophy is already grounded in God: God as the truly unconditioned self-consciousness, the Understanding that is a comprehension of the motion of the Universal Being as *its own motion,* the Understanding that is the totality and wholeness of the movement of the unconditioned universal from itself as being to itself as thought. Yea, Hegel, we praise thee, as we praise Parmenides, Heraclitus, and the Neoplatonists such as Plotinus.

[Anonymous No.22378174]

I'm reading Introduction To The Philosophy of World History

[Anonymous No.22378522]

>>22377814
No he didn’t, he just reformulated. Take for example Hegel’s notion of subjective mind on the level of the individual. He states “mind is the truth of nature.” The usage of truth shifts from the description of a rigid correlation between subjective notion and rigid fact to the identification of increasingly self-conscious systems open to analysis. The existence of reasoning consciousness itself is the truth of being, if by truth we understand the ability for an object to be for-itself.

[Anonymous No.22379262]

>>22375979
Truth is impossible to find since it should not be dependent on the subject searching for it. All you do is jerk yourself thinking how superior you are. Everything bad that happened to any civilisation happened because of People like you and women

[Anonymous No.22379669]

>>22377774
Not sure, though that would make him even more based.