Hinduism vs Buddhism

[Anonymous No.22247361]

Which is superior?

[Anonymous No.22247415]

Hinduism

[Anonymous No.22247428]

>>22247415
Why?

[Anonymous No.22247429]

There is so much internal dialectic in both traditions and so many positions represented even at the same times in different schools that it is silly to treat them as monoliths. Both also massively influenced one another in their development. I just see all Indic religion as a kind of space with overlapping topologies. At various extremes you find theurgic tantrists and literalistic ajivika and samkhya followers who are practically atheistic and occultistic, just like you find devotional and personalistic extremes at the other end, and within metaphysics you find Self, Substance, and Maya, and Individual soul/karmic complex/whatever all being negated or affirmed variously, often with the same arguments being inverted and modified. Anyone who studies any of these traditions for five minutes has to come away with the realization that they aren't even internally consistent across a single century, basically any interpretation or misinterpretation we are capable of today, they also made, and founded entire schools and subschools on. And then these schools later converged and revived other elements without even knowing they were originally opposed or alien to their own school, and then within a generation of that, some new reformer came along and gave the whole thing a new twist or tinge.

I don't understand how you can see all this and not look for the great commonalities between things, instead of splitting hairs.

[Anonymous No.22247638]

Buddhism is everything good about Hinduism with everything bad taken out. I can’t respect people who worship an 8 armed blue elephant man.

[Anonymous No.22247659]

As far as I understand it, Buddhism is just Hinduism with dependent arising, anatman, and less focus on Devas.

[Anonymous No.22247792]

>>22247361
Daoism

[Anonymous No.22247863]

>Hinduism
Demon worship
>Buddhism
Recognises the Demiurge

[Anonymous No.22248033]

>>22247361
Buddhism, but only the varieties that didn't reinvent pantheons of gods and do silly metaphysical speculation.

[Anonymous No.22248045]

[Anonymous No.22248395]

>>22247361
Why /lit/ never talks about Jainism?

[Anonymous No.22248456]

>>22248045
hmm, how enlightened and non-wordly those buddhist fellas look...

[Anonymous No.22248537]

has anyone here taken the dzogpill? I'm very interested and would appreciate recommendations.

[Anonymous No.22248704]

>one substance
Hindu garbage, more so monistic garbage in general that permeates most of the religious and scientific ideology. Whether that substance is "matter" or "god" or whatever, that's the hallmark of self-delusion permeating across the entire human society.

[Anonymous No.22248903]

>>22247638
What about this Buddhist 32 armed buffalo man?

[Anonymous No.22248910]

>>22248537
Read this and nothing else on Dzogchen until you find a teacher to give you direct introduction. Dzogchen can't be learned from books.

[Anonymous No.22248946]

Hindus stole anything related to mediation, karma and rebirth.
For instance, in the Vedas, karma is not karma from jainism or buddhism. Karma in Hinduism is how well a brahmin perform the killing of an animal, in order to please their made up gods. Hindus have no fucking clue what those meditation, karma, rebirth are and especially in the upanishads, because the upanishads are just their first attempt to steal everything from buddhists and jains and converting them into vedism. Ie making rebirth compatible with their caste system and sacrifices.
This is why the hindu exposition of meditation is very very shallow. The first semi-precise treaty on mediation by the brahmins is patanjali, and guess what he stole everything from buddhism, this time word for word lol. Patanjali is a very late addition to the hindu shit canon.
If you want to learn mediation, stick to buddhism.

[Anonymous No.22248967]

>>22248395
I dont think it’s seen much translation into English

[Anonymous No.22248976]

>>22248903
Buddhists don't even open their eyes once you have that many arms

[Anonymous No.22249066]

>>22247361
Just make friends with an Indian person

[Anonymous No.22249111]

>>22247361
Buddhism is just soulless Hinduism

[Anonymous No.22249114]

Buddhism
Orthodox Hinduism focuses a lot on Vedic rituals and magic bullshit
Also manu smriti is a pretty disgusting book and shows how disgusting brahmins are

[Anonymous No.22249247]

>>22247361
tantra

[Anonymous No.22249277]

>>22247361
Could you guys give me a short qrd on both religions?
I'm a Catholic and have literally zero knowledge about eastern religion.

Are they also separated similar as Christianity (Orthodox/Catholic/Protestant)? What are religious texts of them? Are Hinduism and Buddhism related at some point (something like Abrahamic religions)?

[Anonymous No.22249299]

>>22249277
Hinduism & Mahayana, Zen, Vajaryana, Dzogchen are a monistic Universalism: the totality exists & nothing else. There is no multiplicity, everything is absolutely identical. This is qualified of acosmatic.
They mix this view with a huge amount of symbols, incantations, rituals, worship, idolatry, mantras, deities, chanting, entertainment, lengthy Scriptures with thousands of verses, sacrifice & sacred objects, & rules for lay people in order to create a religion.
For those gurus, people have the knowledge that they have a true nature, but people are misguided on what they take as their true nature. This is why they say that people are already enlightened, they just do not know about it... The true nature of people is not the 5 senses or their objects, but the mind itself with the world [loka] itself identified with the cosmos, or their deification of this, ie their Brahma or their Buddha or non-duality, & when people realize this they are enlightened. The way to realize this is by relying on lots of sacrifice, chantings & rituals, also on material objects which magically purify the minds for them, like sounds, logic, mantras, little beads, amulets.
Mahayana-Hinduism tries to make a human society, some political system too.

It is only when there is a allegedly good creator [a god or just ''nature''] that it makes sense to ask the usual question ''why the cosmos produce things which do not know that they are the cosmos?'' ie ''why some good god did not get people to be born directly enlightened? instead of being born unenlightened which produces lots of suffering?''
So far the Hindus have no answer to this ''problem of evil''. They keep replying with their main dogma, ie ''because people do not know their true nature, which is pure primordial mind & cannot be described'' & that's their pathetic cope...

in Buddhism, there is no non-duality, people do not have a true nature, people are not the cosmos, people are not Brahma, people do not come from Brahma, people are not nibanna, people do not come from nibanna, people are not Buddha, people do not come from a buddha, people are not their mind, people are not loka, people are not born already enlightened. In Buddhism there is only craving for pretty things & the pretty ideas of having ''a true nature'', & there is the opposite: a lack of craving for pretty things & pretty ideas. People get enlightened when they stop craving for those. The way to get enlightened is to purify the mind, however not with useless incantations & rituals nor with magical objects, nor worship, unlike the Hindus do, but with the mind itself, ie all the time inclining [with the mind] the mind towards what the buddha calls good qualities & then directly knowing the mind as it really is, which is anicca, dukkha, anatta [contrary to what the hindus say], which is the condition for dispassion, dispassion which is the condition for liberation, liberation which is the condition for direct knowledge that dukkha is ended.

[Anonymous No.22249333]

>>22249299
Thanks for effort post.

[Anonymous No.22249398]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acosmism
acosmism is a huge huge intellectual blunder. Literally midwits who think they made a breakthrough

[Anonymous No.22249400]

acosmism in atheism 2023 is literally the stupidity that ''the world is a simulation'', let that sink in

[Anonymous No.22249530]

>>22247361
>which demon worship is superior
Neither

[Anonymous No.22249542]

>>22249114
anyone who seethes at Brahmins is without a doubt a shudra.

[Anonymous No.22249573]

>>22249299
What books do you recommend to learn "real" Buddhism?

[Anonymous No.22249626]

>>22249299
>Hinduism & Mahayana, Zen, Vajaryana, Dzogchen are a monistic Universalism: the totality exists & nothing else
Dilettante.