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Opinions on him?

>> No.22215197
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>>22215192
his cat was named nigger :)

>> No.22215201

The fact that he’s racist is enough evidence for me to know he never produced anything of value.

>> No.22215202

>>22215197
Nigger-Man*
>>22215192
Great ideas and innovation, but I was never a fan of his writing style.

>> No.22215210

Stopped taking his racism seriously after reading The Temple. Garden variety angloid nimby, no wonder he recanted it later.

The stories? Kinda creepy. Lot of build up to usually a very moderate payoff. Enough to keep me reading though.

>> No.22215217

>>22215201
Your in for a reality check. When it comes to writers the best aren’t great people.

>> No.22215221

>>22215217
True, but racists cannot produce good art.

>> No.22215223

>>22215201
Shut the fuck up niggerfaggot, i will bang you head to the wall!

>> No.22215224

>>22215221
this but non-racists

>> No.22215227

>>22215201
7/10 bait, good job.

>> No.22215229

>>22215224
Every good novel was written by a progressive. Prove me wrong

>> No.22215231

>>22215229
Maybe by Victorian standards.

>> No.22215238

>>22215231
If all the classic authors were alive today they would support blm

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>>22215192
I feel his popularity overshadows his actual achievements in writing. Many readers (or more commonly, non-readers) boil down his works to "ooo scary squid I'm going insane" but you can really do that with any literary piece. To boil down it's components to a single, sardonic lump. I think more than anything: He is a very entertaining writer. Which sometimes is all that you need.

>>22215201
>>22215221
This is bait.

>> No.22215458

his letters > his stories

>> No.22215600

>An Itali-ACK

>> No.22215604

>>22215192
I don't read horror.

>> No.22215833

>>22215238
they would support tnd

>> No.22215869

I've never enjoyed reading in my fucking life, and almost began to fucking hate it with a passion, but Lovecraft? He opened wide the doors of short stories for me. He might not've been the best, but I'll always be grateful for showing me which /lit/ style fits me.
And with strange aeons even death may die

>> No.22216310

His style can be very dry and at times I think he can even get slightly repetitive but he had a remarkable imagination and wrote spectacularly haunting works of horror. Very much a fan of the man's work and I re-read him often, especially around Halloween time.

>> No.22216451

love the Moon and Star Bookclub

>> No.22216479

>>22216310
It's the repetitive nature of his work I find so comfy. You just know you are wrapped up nice and warm in this little syntactical universe where there will be a gibbous moon, a mongrel general population, an ominous sound in the night, and an erudite, sensitive narrator to tiptoe through it all. There is literally no concern for the subtleties of mundane humdrum life, no romance, barely any women, just the blunt force of hostile mystery whose reality is pretty much imposed on you by a verbose, incessant narrator.

>> No.22216880

>>22215192
A shame that every Lovecraft thread quickly devolves into bait posts about being filtered or racism. Never able to get a solid or even semi-coherent conversation going

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>>22215192

>> No.22216931

Whisperer in Darkness is the story that I've always loved the most from him. It's just seething with anxiety. And I think that Shadow out of Time is probably his masterpiece. The descriptions of the Yith city are overwhelming.

>> No.22216937

>>22216880
Everyone on this site has had their minds fried by racebait.

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>>22216937
Total nigger death would solve that.

>> No.22217406

>>22215201
Islam was right about women and the lgbtq's

>> No.22217409

I love lovecraft but honestly I wish he was less interested in eugenics and degeneration

>> No.22217470

>>22215192
I like him. I find that I relate to his paranoia and fear towards everything outside his home, as well as the larger and more haunting things we cannot control, real or not.

I truly do feel sorry for Howard. He was born very mentally ill and raised by ill and bigoted people and stuck as a poor "rich" man. Too many people are eager to dogpile on him for being racist yet fail to show the same energy in terms of sympathy for his illness.

I would have been his friend, although he likely would be apprehensive towards me for my race. But I find that the most extreme racists tend to be a diverse bunch so perhaps we could have bonded over hating black people.

>> No.22217899
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>>22215192
I love him so much anons... Lovecraft is more precious to me than any author. I know that he has flaws and I recognise them all, but I think he is great. I grew up with his work and it really made an impression on me. I didn't have a great childhood, and my early teens were the worst period of my life by far. My parents divorced when I was 9. I was shuttled between parents' houses every weekend. I moved to new towns and schools and could never make friends. Every few months, we would move house because my mum was breaking up with her boyfriend again. I lived in 11 or 12 different houses over the course of about 8 years. I even lived in the same house twice.

And that is where Lovecraft came in. With no friends, school clubs, or hobbies, I only had a few options. I had vidya and books. And if I could read anything to get away from reality, I needed the most engrossing stuff. When I was 12 years old, Lovecraft was there for me. I read this guy in bed every single night. I would stay up until 2 in the morning, secretly reading him. He spooked and thrilled me like no one else did. I was a bookish and depressive kid and got picked on, but I had brains. I was a Lovecraft character in the making. I could never read Robert E Howard because I couldn't relate to Conan. But when I was a kid, a young academic who likes history and folklore stumbling into a tomb of unknown horrors was written for me. When my school work got too stressful, I would read Lovecraft. When my lack of friends got to me, his characters were there for me. When I thought about my sheltered life, an equally sheltered protagonist saw the unseeable for me. But the protagonist went mad and suffered, so it also made me feel okay that I could just read about it.

I don't think it is an exaggeration to say that Lovecraft saved a portion of my youth. He meant so much to me that I really can't express how much I love this man. I wish we got 10 more years of him. I miss him bros.

>> No.22217949

>>22217899
That's nice to know anon. Hope you're doing okay. What would you say is the story that most impacted you?

>> No.22217961

>>22217949
Thanks for the well wishes anon. life is very up and down, it is not always easy but now is not so bad.

I find favourites really hardd to pick, but on pure taking me off guard then I would say The Outsider, and I was really shaken by Arthur Jermyn And His Family. The twist is great in the former and the latter was jus to so shocking to me, to think a man would mate with an ape/bigfoot and bring the offspring back to America to live in an attic with some alleged degenerative disease and create a cursed bloodline, only for the inhuman and repulsive truth to force the young Arthur to set himself on fire. that scene of him roasting alive petrified me, I couldnt sleep and was very upset.

>> No.22217970

>>22216901
There’s no way Lovecraft wrote this since I didn’t need a thesaurus to understand it.

>> No.22218224

>>22217470
The racist community is one of the most diverse there is. As a staunch racist, I'd be willing to hang out with someone of another race so long as they're accepting of my views.

>> No.22218377

Most of the criticism of HPL is that he is samey. People should remember that he said "I have Poe stories and Dunsany stories but where are my Lovecraft stories?" and proceeded to work on breaking out of his derivative works.

if he had lived to be 50 he would have likely had a full length novel better in quality than Mountains of Madness. if we had gotten another 10 years than what we did, he would have put out a gigantic offering of very mature literature in his own distinct style.

>> No.22218387

All the enemies and monsters in his books are just Hindus and negros

>> No.22218462

>>22215210
He married a jew, clearly he didn't believe it enough. What he said wasn't wrong though.

>> No.22218470

>>22218224
This desu. Being racist is just recognising the instinctive dynamics at play. It's like when two animals cross paths in the wild - they could be aggressive and cause a fight, or they could just walk past each other and its no big deal.

>> No.22218751

>>22215192
great naming abilities, both in his works and in his life

>> No.22219014

>>22215238
We are in a cultural wasteland now, those great writers wouldn't be able to produce such great works in the current social environment. Also, progressivism is not sticking a dildo in your arse and calling it a day. Fascists and National Socialists were alternative forms of progressivism, ones that loved their history, not admonish it

>> No.22219015

>>22215192
I think he was a Poe worshipping sociopath with meme ideas and his racism might have actually been magick covert anti-racism. He would have been a 4channer if alive today.

I used to really like his stuff, but now I think it's kinda mid/upper mid.

>> No.22219021

>>22219014
I think that you're looking at it the wrong way. Really every society in it's time has it's taboos and popular attitudes. There are things we can and can't subvert without being ridiculed. Writers of bygone eras at times challenged the status quo and were publicly ridiculed for it which as far as I can tell is most of the worst that would happen to you in this day and age anyway.

Unpopular ideas have always received backlash.

>> No.22219537

>>22215223
wow we got a tough guy over here, everyone!

>> No.22220137

>>22215192
>"it was terrifying"
>"so terrifying in fact that it literally cant be put into words so im not even going to try"
>repeat this 100 times
>everyone loves it
do 20th century readers really..?

>> No.22220153

>>22215192
Absolutely CYCLOPEIAN

>> No.22220202

>>22215192
I enjoy his work, but it's always the same thing
>Normal guy writes a letter to you about going on an expedition or something
>OOH! Something weird is here!
>Oh god, it's some impossibly ancient horror that doesn't obey the laws of physics!
>I'm quite mad now
Also, I really don't give a fuck about his racism or anything, but The Rats in the Walls can't go two sentences without saying Nigger-Man. It ends up reading like that one anon who made the word Nigger every fifth word of his novel.

>> No.22220970

>>22215229
What are your favourite classic writers?

>> No.22222147

>>22215197
that was his father's cat

>> No.22223890

Thank god this retarded thread is about to be archived