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Anonymous Fri Jun 30 02:57:41 2023 No.22206174 [Reply] [Original]

Fiction is stupid.

>Hurr durr what if there was a magical world where my worldview was objectively right and everyone that disagrees with me is evil, stupid and dies or is humiliated

How am I supposed to take this seriously? It's all just propaganda.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 30 03:05:17 2023 No.22206194 >>22206174 Maybe start by learning how to form your own opinions, instead of taking everything at face value?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 30 03:06:45 2023 No.22206198 File: 186 KB, 1200x895, EoLAAhKXYAI9ryP.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] filtered

Anonymous Fri Jun 30 03:07:35 2023 No.22206199

you are correct, and you know what's funny? you can turn their own logic on its head and/or make a story with your own viewpoints at play using their own fictional world just to fuck with them

>fiction where men and women are "equal"
this opens up so many can of worms that it would be so fun and easy to fuck with cause these people never take their beliefs to their logical extremes, if men and women are equal then why are the men working to maintain the women and not the other way around? etc etc, yes i went for the pol talking point cause i am obsessed, but this can be applied to any other point an author is trying to make with his carefully controlled environment

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 30 03:07:42 2023 No.22206200 >>22206194 Yeah, by not reading fiction.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 30 03:11:56 2023 No.22206214 >>22206174 >>Hurr durr what if there was a magical world where my worldview was objectively right and everyone that disagrees with me is evil, stupid and dies or is humiliated I too have read Atlas Shrugged.

Anonymous Fri Jun 30 03:14:36 2023 No.22206219

>>22206214
i actually want to make a magical world where people i disagree with double down on their delusions and form a lifelong rivalry with my self insert and they both fight for decades and them become friends
maybe i should make a chud and tranny fanfic

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 30 03:17:01 2023 No.22206228 >what if there was a magical world where my worldview was objectively right and everyone that disagrees with me is evil, stupid and dies or is humiliated I don't know that sounds pretty based for me

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 30 03:19:34 2023 No.22206233 File: 85 KB, 640x820, can-a-boymoder-and-a-chud-fall-in-love-v0-vs7pary2ko0a1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22206219

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 30 03:34:04 2023 No.22206261 >>22206233 adorable

Anonymous Fri Jun 30 03:47:33 2023 No.22206297

>>22206174
>How am I supposed to take this seriously?
Fiction at least understands that it is so, unlike Law, Psychology, Theory, Philosophy, and even Science, which disguises its fictitious 'nature' with the descriptor 'provisional' --What is it in the end but Fiction applied?
But it works!
What it gives with one hand it takes away with the other.
And fiction works, too -- in the form of Laws, Money, Customs, Letters and Numbers, etc.
>It's all just propoganda
In a world saturated with advertisements and a few dominant (very stupid) ideologies it's odd that you would make this claim so absolutely; as a discipline fiction worthy of the name endeavors *not* to be propoganda. Does it fail? Yes, more times than not. But not always. If nothing else Fiction is the best means of understanding what propoganda looks like in the pragmatic sphere of actually living. Good fiction, i.e.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 30 03:53:53 2023 No.22206311 Good fiction seeks to provide multiple well represented sides of a compelling argument few writers have the moral or intellectual honesty or courage to do it well. but the ones that do become timeless

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 30 03:56:47 2023 No.22206314 >>22206311 Name a book like that.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 30 03:59:57 2023 No.22206320 >>22206314 The Brothers Karamazov

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 30 04:00:34 2023 No.22206322 File: 7 KB, 474x267, the tao.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22206233 wrong swastika but very cute. My idea of heaven.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 30 04:01:35 2023 No.22206325 >>22206233 pedophilia is real and you must cut out this LGBT empathy shit if you want to get rid of them.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 30 04:02:35 2023 No.22206327 >>22206233 thinking that a chud respects something as faggoted as prounouns

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 30 04:04:13 2023 No.22206328 >>22206174 HAHAHA YOU WILL NEVER BE AN ARYAN

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 30 04:07:31 2023 No.22206334 >>22206328 PRUSSIAN MASTER RACE FOR EVER

Anonymous Fri Jun 30 04:10:36 2023 No.22206340

>>22206174
what if several people with free will collectively decided to create a fiction in order to safe guard the various races, weltanshuuangs, whatever we want to create in order to safeeguard humanity or at least the country we are living in or some shit like that.

I mean you seem to be a mix of a english germanic and jew from the way you talk.

Anonymous Fri Jun 30 04:15:35 2023 No.22206351

>>22206174

and also I think you need to really think about who dies gets humilaited, gets called evil ect.

I think that putting forward notions such as good and evil ultimately leads to worst kind of anti life suicidal ideaology possible.

Or perhaps the anti harmony in 4 helps reground the 3 and keep the 2 together so in this beautiful creation is preserved.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 30 04:23:41 2023 No.22206365 >>22206351 reddit spacing

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 30 04:31:06 2023 No.22206375 >>22206174 my work here is done. Perhaps one day you will understand or perhaps you will just be constantly deluded.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 30 04:35:25 2023 No.22206385 >>22206365 very reddit.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 30 06:40:02 2023 No.22206651 >>22206174 Says the guy who got vaxxed. You read fiction every time you open the newspaper.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 30 07:09:06 2023 No.22206711 >>22206651 rent free

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 30 07:19:49 2023 No.22206728 >>22206174 Your life is a fiction because you'll amount to nothing no one will remember.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 30 07:24:30 2023 No.22206738 >>22206728 The great thing about non-fiction is it exists regardless of people's thoughts on the matter you dumb nigger

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 30 07:29:45 2023 No.22206751 >>22206738 That doesn't signify any greater meaning. South Park unironically put it best in their Imagination Land episode - Works of fiction are more real than you or I because they'll live on in future generations. You are fake. Star Wars is real.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 30 09:42:25 2023 No.22206950 File: 72 KB, 498x498, 1669147630636571.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22206174 Listen anon The only difference between fiction and non-fiction is that fiction tells you up front that it's lying

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 30 10:00:54 2023 No.22206982 >>22206174 >individual creativity = propaganda you have shit for brains

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 30 10:24:07 2023 No.22207009 >>22206174 Non-fiction is stupid. >Hurr durr in our real world my worldview are objectively right and everyone that disagrees with me is evil, stupid and dies or is humiliated How am I supposed to take this seriously? It's all just propaganda.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 30 11:19:57 2023 No.22207122 >>22206200 lmao retard, go back to your fox news channel

Anonymous Fri Jun 30 11:22:55 2023 No.22207128

>>22206982
Not that guy, but fiction can be (and often is) propaganda. Camus thought the extremes of fiction were frivolity and propaganda, and I don't think it's a bad spectrum to use.

This is not to say, of course, that non-fiction is any different. OP lacks awareness, there.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 30 12:44:33 2023 No.22207288 >>22206340 I don't have any Jewish blood that I know of. >>22206950 You can read multiple sources on non-fiction subjects and come up with your own opinion.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 30 12:48:57 2023 No.22207295 >>22207288 You can also read multiple sources of fiction, embodying multiple points of view, different experiences and a variety of character traits, rather than relying on your own point of view.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 30 12:51:17 2023 No.22207301 >>22207295 Look, don't get me wrong, there are works of fiction that I like. But they all agree with my views on the world. Are there any works of fiction that present your worldview as evil and/or stupid that you enjoy?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 30 12:55:15 2023 No.22207305 >>22207301 >Are there any works of fiction that present your worldview as evil and/or stupid that you enjoy? I loved Doctor Zhivago and Heart of a Dog, which both are pretty critical of Communism and the USSR in particular.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 30 13:21:30 2023 No.22207353 filtered

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 30 13:50:53 2023 No.22207425 >>22206199 >why are the men working to maintain the women and not According to 'those people', it would largely be because women aren't allowed to work in significant positions and this is a historical injustice that needs to be corrected.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 30 15:40:03 2023 No.22207738 >>22206174 Read better fiction, OP. A good author will make a reasonable effort to achieve verisimilitude.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 30 15:42:08 2023 No.22207742 >>22206174 HO HO HAHAHAHAHAHA THATS A REAL KILLING JOKE /thread

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 30 15:47:38 2023 No.22207763 >>22206174 You could read it and not take it seriously? Or not read it at all. I don't know, do something. Or maybe nothing it's all up to you I guess.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 30 16:02:14 2023 No.22207816 >>22207763 shut up kike

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 30 16:02:35 2023 No.22207818 >>22206314 Moby Dick Gravity's Rainbow

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 30 16:48:15 2023 No.22207984 >>22206233 Kill yourself gay ass nigga.

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