Will he cure my depression?

[Anonymous No.22153604]

Or atleast make me not want to kill myself?

[Anonymous No.22153610]

Only if you are convinced of the delusion of "life-affirmation".

[Anonymous No.22153615]

>>22153610
How is it a delusion?

[Anonymous No.22153621]

>>22153615
It is founded on a fake metaphysics. Nietzsche in particular does not give any reasoning or proof as to why life should be "affirmed" besides fantasy and myth.

[Anonymous No.22153633]

Nietzsche is the ultimate tragic philosopher. Only Christ overcame the world; indeed, it is only through the Holy Spirit that men may aspire to do the same.

[Anonymous No.22153640]

for me it was a combination of reading christian philosophers and getting my life in order that brought me out. i wasn't very religious before this. my favorites were plantinga and van inwagen.

[Anonymous No.22153705]

>>22153621
But Nietzsche opposes metaphysics entirely. And is there not a greater burden of proof on the life-deniers and Christians/Platonists who believe in a "world beyond this" than what Nietzsche is claiming with the necessity of life-affirmation?

[Anonymous No.22153716]

>>22153604
Why do you want to kill yourself anon? Curious as to what you perceive your problems to be

[Anonymous No.22153735]

>>22153705
The core issue here is that his "life-affirmation" is founded on a mythological folk psychology which would necessitate a correspondence to something in reality, whether it be a physics or metaphysics, that simply just isn't there. There is no such pre-requisite for dismissing the relevance of the question of whether life is denied or affirmed, if our notion of life is exclusively a form of circular reasoning. Simply put there is no "proof" of life in the first place because it could never actually refer to anything, so negating it requires less of a leap of reason. Nietzsche may have denounced abstract metaphysics but without a basis of mind, what do we do with Nietzscheanism?

[Anonymous No.22153754]

niggas will plunder the western canon to avoid just going to the gym and lifting heavy objects lmao

[Anonymous No.22153771]

>>22153604
consider reading eastern philosophy op

[Anonymous No.22153823]

>>22153754
This doesn't stop nihilism at all.

[Anonymous No.22153841]

>>22153633
Based.

[Anonymous No.22153861]

>>22153823
Nihilism is a mental illness, almost synonymous with depression, most of the time that affect to a large extent young men who feel insecure. Lifting helps cure that type of nihilism.

[Anonymous No.22153897]

>>22153604
philosophy will only make you more depressed, the only way to fight depression is therapy, friends and gym. no other way

[Anonymous No.22153902]

>>22153861
>>22153897
>gym
>fucking THERAPY
this did absolutely nothing

[Anonymous No.22153909]

>>22153902
drop the goyslop to get your hormones in order

[Anonymous No.22153996]

Only if you're willing to do something about it.

[Anonymous No.22154122]

he will help you think about things in a different way. it may or may not help you

[Anonymous No.22154309]

>>22153735
>Simply put there is no "proof" of life in the first place because it could never actually refer to anything
>so negating it requires less of a leap of reason
What's that old quote? Something about so dumb only intellectuals believe it?

[Anonymous No.22154496]

>>22153604
he's an angry, self indulgent loser

[Anonymous No.22154503]

>>22154496
no ur a poopy head

[Anonymous No.22154617]

>>22153861
Oh man I wish I was this retarded.
Or young and naive.

[Anonymous No.22154796]

>>22153735
>what do we do with Nietzscheanism
There is no Nietzscheanism, dumb newfag.

[Anonymous No.22154933]

>>22154309
Saying that in response to a critique of a voluntarist philosopher is casting stones in glass houses.

[Anonymous No.22155550]

>>22154796
I will understand "Nietzscheanism" here to be considered as the whole of the ideas of Nietzsche rather than a particular ideology.

[Anonymous No.22155774]

>>22153621
>>22153735
You're all saying how Nietzsche is inferior to the systems he debased just because he refuses to apply the same kind of dogmatism to his own ideas. He's a fighter against nihilism, but fighting against it would mean the idea has some gravity in the first place. Therefore, he approaches all this from a position of utter sorrow and arrives to the conclusion that man doesn't need to be like that.
Besides, how can you "prove" life? Life is there already. Do you need to prove how creatures exist? This is exactly what he was fighting against. It's all a matter of interpreting facts, but life doesn't need to be defined. Life moves on indefinitely and escapes all definitions and intellectualism.

[Anonymous No.22155838]

>>22155774
If life does not refer to a process that can be shown to exist, nor does it refer to anything abstractly metaphysical, then it is likely what "life" is referring to is a generalization of perceptions of states of mind that we mistakenly believe actually has meaning but does not refer to anything in reality. To then dogmatically affirm life is to regress back into an essentialist perspective. This thing called "life" is therefore an illusion, unless the Nietzschean science can be shown to be particularly useful.

[Anonymous No.22155949]

>>22153633
>Only Christ did
Seems to me you should not follow Christ, 2000 years and only Christ overcame? You know the definition of insanity? Even your own Christcuck philosophy is telling you that it is false, yet you pretend otherwise, sad state of slaves.

[Anonymous No.22156199]

>>22154933
#deep

[Anonymous No.22156211]

>>22153604
He will make it worse, Neetszche is an overthinker but he has some profound moments, very quotable author.

[Anonymous No.22157289]

>>22153621
Yes he does. It's how all things in nature are and how everything originated. That was his entire point. When you look past all the bullshit, that's what everything does/is. That's all there is. He doesn't escape to a hintervelt for his answers unlike everyone else.

[Anonymous No.22157340]

>>22157289
literally
>it just is because... it just is ok!

[Anonymous No.22157357]

>>22153861
>>22153754
I lift 3 times a week and still think about suicide every moment of the day.

[Anonymous No.22158596]

absolutely not, if you actually have a soul that is.

>>22153897
you don't have to fight it, it's just a sober sentiment from a distilled worldview. that's how I see it anyway.

[Anonymous No.22158694]

>>22153604
Read Emil Cioran's On the Heights of Despair

[Anonymous No.22158755]

>>22155838
When we say N doesn't have a metaphysic, we simply mean that he isn't trying to play God with some sort of autistic German or British theory of everthing. We don't mean he doesn't beleive in anything. He is actually not a nihillist, contrary to popular opinion amongsy fedora tiping retards.

If he did build a theory of everything of his own, he would be a hypocrite. His whole point is that all metaphysical systems, even your own psuedobuddhist one of an inherently illusory world of senses, assume things we can't know. Go back to Kant.